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What Open Marriage Taught One Man about Feminism
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What Open Marriage Taught One Man about Feminism

Never knew being mid 30s and hitting her sexual prime was code for hitting the wall.

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#52

What Open Marriage Taught One Man about Feminism

This was absolutely a fake article - with the full knowledge of New York magazine. There's no way that they publish something without vetting who the author is, as the market is far too competitive these days.

But that doesn't make it harmless, in fact its rather effective agitprop. This is how the left uses propaganda to shape opinion. Today, most women would find an open marriage despicable (at least where he's the one getting laid all the time) , but as one poster there said, give it 20 years of conditioning and who the fuck knows where we will be. Who could have predicted what's gone down the last couple of years just two decades ago? Legal pot, transgender worship, nationalized gay marriage, females trying to be combat leaders, etc. are not anomalies but indicators. We are watching the collapse of civilization.
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#53

What Open Marriage Taught One Man about Feminism

Quote: (07-17-2015 09:29 AM)scorpion Wrote:  

I would bet money that this is fake, and was actually written by a feminist woman. The writing just sounds extremely non-masculine, even by the standards of an emasculated cuckold man. Look at most of the bolded excerpts that Bacchus quoted. That's just not how men write.

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Is it just me or has there been a coordinated effort to push this open relationship bullshit in the last couple years?

Yes. It's part of the spearhead pushing for polygamy/polyamory/"plural marriage". The goal is to destroy traditional marriage entirely.

I hadn't even considered this, but now I'm certain you're correct. The author page at nymag had only one article listed, that being the one we're discussing. I couldn't find anything else written by this guy anywhere. So, yeah this is a feminist sock puppet.

Edit: Ah, I see this has been discussed at length already. You guys are absolutely correct, this is a fraud.
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#54

What Open Marriage Taught One Man about Feminism

Cuck life.

That said posters in this thread have a good point about these kinds of things often being fake.
If it sounds too retarded to be true, it probably is.

It's easier to see in a blog format because it is hard to maintain the illusion with any credibility. For an article it can be much harder to detect.
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What Open Marriage Taught One Man about Feminism

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Doing so requires supreme self-confidence. You must first really, truly love yourself; it is the foundation upon which all the other love is built.

I died a little when I read that. People say gay marriage will ruin traditional marriage but traditional marriage died a long time ago. Perhaps in the 70s when no fault divorce was made into law.
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#56

What Open Marriage Taught One Man about Feminism

Only Michael Sonmores existing in the US, on a rough Google search, both reside in North Carolina:

http://www.fullnamedirectory.com/details...el-sonmore

Fayetteville or Fort Bragg.

Otherwise the guy is a ghost.

Remissas, discite, vivet.
God save us from people who mean well. -storm
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#57

What Open Marriage Taught One Man about Feminism

Quote: (07-17-2015 09:30 AM)rpg Wrote:  

She is shopping to find a new man. Trying on dicks like shoes. He is fucked. There is a way to come back from this but it isnt pretty.

When he is forced back to work, HR will ask him how much he earned in his previous role. That's when he will realise that laws that protect female returners to the workforce from re-entering on a low wage won't apply to him.

I shook my head when the cuckold thought he had a sexual carte-blanche just like his wife. No heterosexual man has a carte-blanche, never mind a dependent married man who receives a food and accommodation allowance from his wife.
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What Open Marriage Taught One Man about Feminism

Quote: (07-17-2015 10:10 PM)zombiejimmorrison Wrote:  

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Doing so requires supreme self-confidence. You must first really, truly love yourself; it is the foundation upon which all the other love is built.

I died a little when I read that. People say gay marriage will ruin traditional marriage but traditional marriage died a long time ago. Perhaps in the 70s when no fault divorce was made into law.

Correct. The marriage edifice was rotting to the core by the time judges invented gay marriage.

The religious ceremony is just for show anyway. The 'real' marriage occurs in the minister's back room when the couple with witnesses sign secular state papers. This contract can be determined at any time by the poorer party which is normally the woman.

It has been all too convenient to blame LGBT...n for the demise of marriage because it allows the white knight to take the blame away from women who like 'the wedding' but not marriage and financial security and not responsibility.

When we consider passive-aggressive engineering tactics to cause the man to suggest a divorce 'for both our sakes and the children's' no fault divorce means that women end around 90% of marriages.
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#59

What Open Marriage Taught One Man about Feminism

Reading through it, my first thought was "fake," like a few other posters have noted. I would say it's more likely a woman wrote it.

But if the odds were right I'd actually place my bet on a man writing this, as a dystopian satirical piece on what the end goal of feminism is. I can see an RVF dude writing this with the ultimate goal being exactly what we are seeing in the comments.

If NYMag were really interested in taking this story seriously, they would probably have disabled the comment section to this already. An extremely high percentage of the comments are calling bullshit. Thankfully, the great majority of people who read this thought "this 'man' should be institutionalized." Now think about the author's identity if that was actually their objective. Given how well-written and how so many key points are hit, I would say this was the reaction he was looking for.
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What Open Marriage Taught One Man about Feminism

First of all, for a lot of people, marriage brings out some pretty bad behavior. Who cares if its real; its a case study into what can happen if you dont put yourself first. And this can be applied to any situation; relationships, work, life in general.

Lets understand why this guy did this; he doesn't love himself. And he's been taught his entire life to not put himself first.

He believes the programming that just because hes a male, he has privilege, and the most noble thing he can do is allow his "wife" to gobble up the neighborhood cock. And the problem is not his wife, its him. 100% its the mans fault here.

He's actually in the lowest state a man can be in; a slave. He's a sexual slave, and he's a willing participant. The wife is simply following his lead. I really dont have any pity for this guy. In fact I hope his life continues in such a pathetic way. He made his own decisions, just like a drug addict or a criminal. The only pity I have is for the children, to be raised by such a pathetic human being. Hopefully this situation devolves even further so the kids have a chance to be raised by someone else that can offer what children need, leadership and an example.
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#61

What Open Marriage Taught One Man about Feminism

My first thought was: I live in Brooklyn. I wonder when it'll be my turn to ride the village bicycle.

This guy is so self-deluded that even the feminists in the comments section of the article are ripping into him.

I'd actually feel better if this is a hoax. One less emasculated male in the world.
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What Open Marriage Taught One Man about Feminism

The entire nation of Sweden is full of guys exactly like this. They will be in denial right up to the moment, one morning, when they open their door to find a group of muslim teens holding sub-machine guns. The triggers are pulled---crack --- one less simp husband to worry about. The former wives then happily giving blowjobs to the muslim guys that night, and every night following.
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#63

What Open Marriage Taught One Man about Feminism

I bet this chick comes in the house at 4AM, jizz running down her inner thigh, and this clown asks if he can felch the remainder out of her rancid snatch.
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#64

What Open Marriage Taught One Man about Feminism

Isn't Sweden also a leader in gender lunacy?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wor...ictionary/
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#65

What Open Marriage Taught One Man about Feminism

This is too pathetic to believe. It seems like it was written by a woman and mostly a fraud story.
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What Open Marriage Taught One Man about Feminism

Also, if you think the guy in this fake story is bad, you should read Yahoo Answers sometime. Here's a typical question with my answers. It's a little long so if you don't want to read it, the gist is that women will rationalize their laziness, selfishness and neglect using any excuse imaginable - and having a baby is the best excuse of all time.

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My wife and i have been married for 4 years almost 5, and she just gave birth to our first child 2-3 months ago. I thought this was going to be a good thing, i love kids, and have been playing, cuddling kissing both my wife and my child, but i feel like intimacy between my wife and i is missing. we haven't had sex since her second trimester of pregnancy. I started masturbating as a substitute but i dont know how long thats going to last. I voiced my concerns but she is really tired and grumpy when i bring it up so i drop it. I help around the house, and with the kid, even give her foot massages and make her a bath but its still no good. is this going to be a permanent thing? im already feeling resentment towards her, im afraid its going to build up and lead me to either saying something next time im really mad or having an affair (im not the type to cheat but i still dont trust myself). how should i go about this?

Update: everyone makes good points, for the people getting pissed about me asking for sex its been 5-6 months, not weeks, i can deal with weeks, but half a year is different, ill just be patient, i love her and owe it to her.


My response followed by the rationalizations of selfish women:

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All of these people trying to convince you that you should keep coddling her are completely wrong. The fundamental problem is that she doesn't care about your needs - she NEVER did. She played along until she got what she wanted and now she can be as selfish as she wants. If she cared about your needs, she would give you oral to keep you satisfied until she was able to have sex. At the very least she would acknowledge the issue, and set a timeline for getting back to being a wife. Long-term denial of sex is breaking her marriage vows - ask her if it's okay for you to break your marriage vows until she comes to her senses.

Learn from this - NEVER give her another child. Stop supporting her. Make her get a job. Don't do the housework. She either earns her keep or you need to move on, it's just going to get worse if you keep spoiling her.

"i love her and owe it to her. "
You owe a lot to a wife - you owe nothing to a platonic roommate.


LARA's response:
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You NEVER (neither man nor women) needs to "give" sex to their spouse. Sex should always be enjoyable and consensual for both partners. Being a wife does not mean unlimited sex toy. Are you stuck in the 1930's where a man had "needs" that needed to be met by his women?

MY response to LARA
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Then he doesn't owe her fidelity That's fine. Fidelity isn't a need. Neither is support.


BRITTANY's response
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When you get married you are promising love, fidelity and support. You aren't promising that you will have sex with them even when you are not into it at all. Sex is not a need, it is a desire. Plenty of men don't have sex and are fine and healthy mentally and physically.

Oh, and I read a question the other day about a women whose husband didn't have sex with her since her baby was born. Should she stop being supportive of her husband and start forcing him to go down on her?


MY response to BRITTANY
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Actually Brittany, vowing to have sex with your husband is the meaning of "To have and to hold" - a vow taken in most marriages. Even if that wasn't part of their vows, is showing someone such a callous disregard for their needs love? No. Is it supportive? No.

So, she's a good wife as long as she doesn't have sex with other men? I'll pass on that version of "marriage".

And if sex isn't a need, neither is "love, fidelity and support". In fact, I'm fine with saying there are no needs at all. But there are things you have to do to be a wife.


LARA's well-reasonded response
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Your argument is crappy Robert. You also take vows to cherish, support, and love your spouse for "better or worse". That doesn't mean if she stops having sex with you for 3 months because she just pushed a 8+ pound baby from her vagina that you stop loving and supporting.

While sex and love should accompany each other. One can go without sex and still feel loved. Especially when the lack of sex is due to a medical reason, such as giving birth or postpartum depression.

What I am saying is that you can feel loved, support, and be faithful without sex. However, simply having sex does not mean you are being supportive, faithful, or loving. If it is a chore, there isn't much for love and passion involved.

MY response to LARA
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To any men reading this - this is the primary reason not to get married. If a woman can't even acknowledge your needs exist (or even keep her wedding vows), how can she possibly meet them?

But she'll rationalize her neglect by claiming your needs aren't needs - in fact ONLY the things SHE wants are needs. Everything you want are merely wants and base desires that should be controlled while you toil away supporting her with no questions asked.

Also, reread the question, the guy is looking at 8-9 months of neglect, not just a few weeks. But its supposed to be okay as long as you "feel loved" - and, of course, she is the sole decider of what makes you feel loved.
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What Open Marriage Taught One Man about Feminism

Captainstabbing, I know you love to argue with those women but I'd say you're wasting your time and keystrokes. All you're doing is talking past each other and they will never learn nor will they change their opinions based on your reasoning.

Let the women rationalize. Let the men open their own eyes and find us, when they are ready.
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Quote: (07-17-2015 06:53 PM)SlickyBoy Wrote:  

This was absolutely a fake article - with the full knowledge of New York magazine. There's no way that they publish something without vetting who the author is, as the market is far too competitive these days.

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No.

Journalists do a terrible job vetting anything especially when they think it supports their narratives. They didn't vet Jackie in the slightest, nor have they with BS news stories like "global warming".

You also can find some articles and books out there written by former PR firm agents who have numerous stories about how ridiculously easy it is to bullshit the media. They'd send out fake "tips" designed to garner publicity and the "journalists" would typically run them without even questioning the validity of the information.
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#69

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Look, the media absolutely 100% is engaged in a war against men. Their goal is to destroy. That's it.

So quit complaining about the media, it's like complaining because you're in a battle and your enemy is trying to kill you.
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#70

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The real question is how much money did NYMag make off click-baiting all of us?

No judgement here, I click on this nonsense all the time.
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What Open Marriage Taught One Man about Feminism

I have a feeling the "open marriage" only applies to her. I doubt she would be fine with him sleeping with other women on a regular basis.
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What Open Marriage Taught One Man about Feminism

Quote: (07-18-2015 03:42 PM)CleanSlate Wrote:  

Captainstabbing, I know you love to argue with those women but I'd say you're wasting your time and keystrokes. All you're doing is talking past each other and they will never learn nor will they change their opinions based on your reasoning.

Let the women rationalize. Let the men open their own eyes and find us, when they are ready.

I have this need to evangelize.
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#73

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I experienced physical pain in my body reading this shit.

Beyond All Seas

"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe.
To be your own man is a hard business. If you try it, you'll be lonely often, and sometimes
frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." - Kipling
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Quote: (07-18-2015 05:02 PM)Captainstabbin Wrote:  

Quote: (07-18-2015 03:42 PM)CleanSlate Wrote:  

Captainstabbing, I know you love to argue with those women but I'd say you're wasting your time and keystrokes. All you're doing is talking past each other and they will never learn nor will they change their opinions based on your reasoning.

Let the women rationalize. Let the men open their own eyes and find us, when they are ready.

I have this need to evangelize.

Preach on brotha! Just don't let 'em get you down!

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I hope he's happy. All I can say.
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