Quote: (07-13-2015 04:13 PM)Sweeterman Wrote:
Quote: (07-13-2015 04:05 PM)Menace Wrote:
Why do you believe that game ability scales linearly (or generally increases) with age? Most men are blind in this respect, whether they have money, age, or whatever. I don't think there is anything particularly amazing about a young guy being good at game, or being better than men that are older than him.
The real question to ask yourself is why do you care what people, who you consider losers, think? ("The thing that irks me in day to day life is that people consistently blow off my opinions and lessons just because of my age"). Also, you assume it's because of your age, but maybe they don't like how you state your opinions. Maybe they think you're an asshole, or annoying, or whatever.
Thank you for the reasonable response.
I don't consider people losers. The inference to these people being losers was made by someone else who replied earlier, I said he makes a valid point but his point being valid doesn't make it my own.
I can assure you, social experiments upon social experiments have proven that when someone believes themselves to be more experienced (better) than another person, they will instantly put less weight on what that person has to say. The back and forth I was having with Beyond Borders became negative so quickly because after hearing that I am young, he no longer felt the need to counter my points but felt it sufficient to simply insult me.
If I had made an argument for the younger generation without expressly stating that I am part of it, we could have had a decent debate. But due to the pretense of me being youthfully arrogant or bullheaded or such, my opinions were blown out of the water before they were given any consideration at all. Such is the way of the world, and again, what happened here is [b]directly related to my original post.[/b]
Oh God, a Little Dark comparison... Shoulda seen it coming
The irony throughout this thread is so thick you could cut it with a butterknife.
My treatment has zero to do with your age and everything to do with your naivete, arrogance, and (I'm beginning to see) lack of social intelligence.
That you were arrogant or bullheaded was clearly expressed through your writing and behavior in this thread, and I don't need your age to see it. Just look at the title of the thread - can you honestly not see how that might be a distasteful way to introduce yourself to this particular forum? This attitude is what I was calling you out on, not your actual number of years you've been on this Earth.
Your age just so happens to be the topic of this thread because you chose to make it so, even though you've clearly had issues with the topic in the past. Not a very wise decision, as I tried to point out, but that's neither here nor there.
My point is that I would have thought you had issues whether you mentioned your age or not. Your post was asking for trouble. I gave you the benefit of the doubt and played along with you using age as a scapegoat, but I'm now beginning to see that may not be real problem here at all.
For instance, virtually every reply by someone on this thread carried a subtext, often several, you seemed to miss completely, and at the same time you laced your own posts with subtexts gauranteed to incite further hostility and then acted surprised when they brought just that. This is the behavior of someone not wise in the ways of the world for whatever reason.
For further example, my point with my initial post was to suggest that your introduction to the forum was naive and arrogant in itself and was going to incite the very drama that you are now seeing unfold in this thread and eventually lead to you being banned. I actually didn't want to see that happen, believe it or not, and was trying to give a heads up. Snarkily - yes - but had you taken my advice to observe the forum and get to know the culture, you would see that is how we do it here.
Rather than understand that, you assumed you knew better and chose to only see yet another example of someone not taking you seriously because of your age, when I was simply not taking you seriously because of your post. And this even though I was trying to offer advice you very much needed.
Your response then reeked and dripped of the very same arrogance I'd tried to save you from in the beginning. To use your own turn of phrase, "Have a think my friend."
Yes, yes, welcome to our community my friend.
Your lack of awareness and self-awareness in this thread may be due to age, but may also be due to a personality defect. Either way it is very apparent and a likely cause of the problems you've been having off and on this forum, and either way, you've much to learn that you will have a hard time learning in a book.
I do understand recognizing the idea that you may in fact be the cause of your own problems is extremely difficult. (Prior subtext clue: as taught in great length in both those books I mentioned that you brushed off because you've apparently "read" them - suggesting you read much but learned little). So I do sympathize.
But if you can't find a way to entertain the thought I'm afraid you've got a rough road ahead of you, not so much here as regarding to life in general.
Beyond All Seas
"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe.
To be your own man is a hard business. If you try it, you'll be lonely often, and sometimes
frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." - Kipling