[Bones707]

(07-11-2015 10:24 AM)Blick Mang Wrote:  

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Signed by a 5'8" Chicano "ompa lompa from Northern California.

Toche?

Dude, if you don't like brown people, bite the bullet and admit it. You pretty much went the same route as Krauser (writing crap but didn't have the balls to admit the full picture).

[Libertas]

(07-11-2015 12:57 AM)Bones707 Wrote:  

If you are so mad about the Mexican immigration towards California, then you should look no other towards the mirror and of Anglo-Americans who didn't do shit about Mexican immigration. Anglo-Americans wanted cheap labour and they got it. Now we have dumbfucks like you making a tantrum because you want to eat your cake as well. Guess what buddy. Life doesn't work like that. Now live with the consequences.

This is implicitly assuming that most "Anglo-Americans" wanted the mass immigration. They didn't. It was something foisted on them by the crooks in DC who wanted their cheap labor and cheap votes, and the leftist useful idiots below them.

Also the only one that seems to be throwing a tantrum is you, judging by the language you're using.

(07-11-2015 04:41 AM)Teedub Wrote:  

As myself and others have said, the definition of white will change.

It wouldn't be the definition of "white" changing, so much as whether they'll continue to emphasize the word "Hispanic" on the census, which is misleading. I suspect that they won't anytime soon, because it is very helpful in creating an identity politics bloc for the exploitation of a type of tribalism (even if totally contrived) by the elites to get cheap votes and for the SJW outrage machine to keep rolling on.

[Designate]

Cool. More Latinas for me.

[MidWest]

The biggest Mexican news anchor from Univision, also the biggest proponent of immigration reform is Jorge Ramos.



^^^Dude looks white as hell. But when he talks to Americans he always considers himself a proud Mexican Latino and never "white". But when he talks to Mexicans he's considered a "guero" or "whitey". Funny how to one group you are white but to another you aren't.


I agree with Germanico's statement about "White Hispanics" in the first page. Its interesting to note that the Irish in the early 19th century were the same label. "White Irish" like saying "you're white when we need you to be, but when you go against us you aren't white you're an immigrant."

If you read literature about immigrants in the 19th century, lots of conservatives said some of the same things they say now about immigration. "These democrats are bringing in lefty Irish and Italians with a very dangerous and cult religion (Catholicism) who don't assimilate and are heavy drunks and are very different than Americans. They are going to ruin our country all in the name of more votes."

What's happening now is basically the next chapter of America's history. I predict that in 100 years or so there will be no labels like Hispanic and White-Hispanic. The Hispanics will just be sucked up to create a white majority again or a white thinking majority. Remember that Hispanics are half white themselves since they are Mestizo and there is going to be a lot of mixing between whites and Mestizos.

This is how I predict America will look like:




With a Black minority and Asian minority as usual. Just my prediction from books I've read. Not none of this race war nonsense.

[Samseau]

^ It really depends on how well Hispanics assimilate and if birthrates remain high among the K-selected Hispanic population.

Right now things aren't looking too hot: http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archiv...es/391721/



Birth rates per 1000 women are dropping like rocks across all races right now. And of course it's disproportionately represented among the smartest across all groups.

[JacksonRev]

Whitest people in the world:

[game_ethic]

(07-11-2015 10:12 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

5. Teedub said, "the definition of White will be changed in the future," but this is beside the point. It's not that the White race itself is important. It's that Whites represent the strongest K selected elements in the world today, and that's why they're the ones making all the cool shit we take for granted. Should the White population decline, it means there won't be enough K selected people to keep the gears of civilization running and the world falls into the Second Dark Age. Should such an event occur, most of the non-White population that is unable to take care of itself without welfare is dead. And out of these ashes the next K selected population will be born.

[Samseau]

Those quality gif posts really contribute to high discussion.

[Disco_Volante]

The world will become more of a shithole the more whites become the extreme minority of population in the world.

So many countries and people are dependent on U.S. technology, intervention, and values to bail them out. These other cultures don't give a shit about helping other tribes and whatnot.

The countries with the highest number of immigrants trying to get in are Britain, Russia, U.S., and Europe.

Even if Trump wins and puts up a fence that wont change the fact that white girls aren't having children.

[JuanQuinQuin]

Im considered Hispanics but to be real none of us have used the term Hispanics before coming ashore to America. I don't know what cultural traits should I share with this group. That we speak the same language? But that's it. But the power to be are using the lemmings to play for their dirty work. I mean, 85 percent of Hispanics in the US come from Mexico. Thats a heavy majority that usually dictates how the other "Hispanics" subgroups should think and behave. Don't try to move out of the reservation or you will be labeled a Ted Cruz.

Those are my two cents. My other issue is that you are letting your neighbors get in masses and occupy your land, changing the structure of society, and cultural traits. Many hosting countries have played this game through history and have seem themselves at the end of the bad bargain. Rome and its Germanic Tribes, Texas and Mexico's Santa Ana.

But oh well, I wouldn't like to be an "Anglo-White" in Texas, California, New Mexico, and Arizona in the coming century. Situation is relative good now but when SHTF expect a balkanization movement in these areas.

[Samseau]

(07-11-2015 12:06 PM)Disco_Volante Wrote:  

The world will become more of a shithole the more whites become the extreme minority of population in the world.

At least in the short run. Theoretically, had other racial populations grown more sustainably by encouraging their best and most productive men to breed (and not the single-mama 5 kids-5 fathers ghettos we have) then it wouldn't matter if White populations decline because the non-Whites would become just as K-selected as the Whites currently are.

However, this process takes time. Generations, maybe even dozens of generations to achieve. We aren't even remotely close to this ideal. The current White race today is the product of 2,000+ years of heavy selection processes for the smartest men to have the hottest women. And it's not like this process was steady either, it has gone up and down many times and in certain places collapsed completely (look at present day Turkey - used to be vast majority White Christian).

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So many countries and people are dependent on U.S. technology, intervention, and values to bail them out. These other cultures don't give a shit about helping other tribes and whatnot.

Exactly - humans are simply far too concerned with immediate advantages and think nothing of the long-term.

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The countries with the highest number of immigrants trying to get in are Britain, Russia, U.S., and Europe.

It remains to be seen if Russia will sell it's people out.

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Even if Trump wins and puts up a fence that wont change the fact that white girls aren't having children.

At best, Trump just slows things down and gives more breathing room for guys like us. Instead of shit hitting the fan in 20 years, it will take 40.

As shown in the graph I posted above, birthrates of American-Hispanics are dropping as well. This means that without a constant influx from the Southern Border, the displacement of White Americans will be slowed down drastically. Even though White women aren't reproducing that same corruption affects Hispanic Women almost equally as bad.

It would be ideal if men from all races could look past their tribe and work towards building a country where men are able to raise families properly but people would rather elect feminist Democrats who promise more free shit.

[MidWest]

(07-10-2015 03:05 PM)Blick Mang Wrote:  

I don't see what point you're trying to make with this image.

Is it because she's Hispanic or a woman? Or both?

So because she's Hispanic she's all of a sudden not tough enough on immigration or isn't capable of overseeing immigration operations? Only a "red blooded murican" who champions "our cause" should be in that position, dammit!

Honest question Blick, have you ever lived or traveled to border states like Texas, California, Arizona and New Mexico? Or traveled by the border South Texas, Southern Cal, etc...? That whole region is overwhelming Hispanic, so its only obvious that the people overseeing the border are going to be Hispanic. You guys do know that the majority of border patrol agents are Hispanic right? They aren't 5'2 oompa loompas either, more like 6'0 feet tall motherfuckers packed with muscle. The older ones have beer guts. I've seen them myself since I cross the border into Mexico all the time when I go on vacation.

[Agastya]

(07-11-2015 12:06 PM)Disco_Volante Wrote:  

The world will become more of a shithole the more whites become the extreme minority of population in the world.

So many countries and people are dependent on U.S. technology, intervention, and values to bail them out. These other cultures don't give a shit about helping other tribes and whatnot.

The countries with the highest number of immigrants trying to get in are Britain, Russia, U.S., and Europe.

Even if Trump wins and puts up a fence that wont change the fact that white girls aren't having children.

I've never really understood this mindset. Who are you talking about when you mean "whites"? Do you just mean so-called white Americans? Do you mean people from the entire continent of Europe(it's not a fucking country)? Does this include people from Italy and Sicily, who are frequently dark in complexion? Does this include the Basques, who don't even speak an Indo-European language? Does this include Armenians, Georgians, and Azerbaijanis? Does this include Muslims in Bosnia? Does this include light-skinned, light-eyed people in North Africa, India, and the Middle East?

All of these people could pass for "white" by American standards, standards that constantly fluctuate to include previously despised groups. As little as eighty years ago, within the lifetime of some of our own grandparents, politicians were railing against immigration from Ireland, Italy, and parts of eastern Europe, claiming that the immigrants were dangerous and alien. Once it became politically expedient to treat them like human beings, these immigrants were gradually(though not completely) incorporated into the fold of white America. This historical example undermines literally every argument in this thread about how "white people=good" and "less white people=bad". The definition of white was literally up to the individual judgement of certain politicians and judges, who exploited it for their own ends.

Therefore this idea of white exceptionalism is complete garbage, mostly since the concept of whiteness is itself hugely flexible.

And how are people dependent on American "values"? Obviously, a complete end to U.S aid/proliferation of technology would cripple several countries. It would be similarly unfortunate if the Gulf States suddenly decided to stop selling the world oil, or if China/Russia/any major nation completely isolated itself from world trade. Nepal would be a pile of rubble if India didn't send it enormous amounts of aid. Yes, obviously, if any major country or bloc of countries went completely isolationist, the rest of the world would suffer.

In general, every aspect of the ideology that white people are somehow "special" or "better" reeks of insecurity and ignorance. It suggests that white people are a monolithic block, not a hodgepodge of extremely dissimilar cultures/ethnicities who corrupt authorities roped together for their own ends.

In a very general sense, white people enjoy more prosperity and power, in much the same way as the Mongols, the Arabs, the Huns, the Romans, and the Persians were more prosperous than the peoples they subjugated. Every single one of those groups viewed themselves as being racially superior, especially the Romans, who viewed the Gauls, Germans, and Britons as being uncivilized savages. It's natural for a dominant group to feel this way, but it doesn't make their pretensions of superiority true.

[Chick Magnet]

(07-11-2015 01:35 AM)Agastya Wrote:  

That stereotypical "American" look is nonsense. Would you be as worried if speakeasy was the only person with African-American features and cultural traits in a crowd of people?

No, I wouldn't be worried. Since America's founding, there was always a minority element of blacks and natives. But the overwhelming fabric of society was European. That's changing, and yes I take issue with that.

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The U.S didn't start as a "European" colony. Please point out the genetic/cultural influence wielded by the Polish, the Serbs, the Lithuanians, the Austrians, the Russians, and the Macedonians. In their inception, "white" Americans largely claimed ancestry from north-western Europe, and this perception continued for several decades. Italians and other southern/eastern Europeans were actively discriminated against and prevented from entering the country in large numbers. To suggest that the U.S was ever intended to become a melting pot for various European ethnicities demonstrates a truly simple-minded view of history.

You're going off on a tangent. But sure, to be more specific, America was a NW European colony. N.W Europe was/is the wealthiest and most advanced region in the world. It's only natural we wanted our immigrants coming from there versus Ukraine.

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And what exactly is the issue with "becoming like Brazil?"

Are you that dense?

Look at Brazil, pal.

Their economy is in tatters. Endemic corruption. Slums everywhere. One of the highest murder rates in the world.

Yea...an aspiring model for America.

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Fuck this passive-aggressive nonsense. If anything, the "decline" isn't the fault of a bunch of Mexicans whose homelands have been ruined by the illegal drug trade(almost entirely the fault of OUR OWN politicians) and are making the completely rational and understandable decision to flee the murderous shitholes they came from. In my experience, I've seen these people working unbelievably hard, preserving religious family values, and producing attractive feminine daughters for the me to fearlessly rawdog. Yeah, it's a real shame that these people are becoming more numerous, while a bunch of fat blonde sluts forsake motherhood in favor of multiple abortions and a lifetime of alcoholism. Don't blame the decline on people fleeing the prospect of getting chainsawed to death.

You're a recent immigrant yourself, yes? Indian...according to your profile.

I see why you're getting all emotional over this...

But look, I have ancestors that came over on the freaking Mayflower. They built this country from the ground up. Not the natives. Not the Latinos. Not you.

And when I see their culture being eliminated in a tidal wave of immigration, you should be able to understand why I'm not happy about it.

[Samseau]

(07-11-2015 12:59 PM)Agastya Wrote:  

I've never really understood this mindset. Who are you talking about when you mean "whites"? Do you just mean so-called white Americans? Do you mean people from the entire continent of Europe(it's not a fucking country)? Does this include people from Italy and Sicily, who are frequently dark in complexion? Does this include the Basques, who don't even speak an Indo-European language? Does this include Armenians, Georgians, and Azerbaijanis? Does this include Muslims in Bosnia? Does this include light-skinned, light-eyed people in North Africa, India, and the Middle East?

In general, every aspect of the ideology that white people are somehow "special" or "better" reeks of insecurity and ignorance. It suggests that white people are a monolithic block, not a hodgepodge of extremely dissimilar cultures/ethnicities who corrupt authorities roped together for their own ends.

First you go on to say that the definition of White isn't clear or properly understood...

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In a very general sense, white people enjoy more prosperity and power, in much the same way as the Mongols, the Arabs, the Huns, the Romans, and the Persians were more prosperous than the peoples they subjugated. Every single one of those groups viewed themselves as being racially superior, especially the Romans, who viewed the Gauls, Germans, and Britons as being uncivilized savages. It's natural for a dominant group to feel this way, but it doesn't make their pretensions of superiority true.

...then you go on to use White as a monolithic term to describe a group of commonly known people. You're at SJW hypocrisy levels right now.

[Chick Magnet]

(07-11-2015 01:20 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

(07-11-2015 12:59 PM)Agastya Wrote:  

I've never really understood this mindset. Who are you talking about when you mean "whites"? Do you just mean so-called white Americans? Do you mean people from the entire continent of Europe(it's not a fucking country)? Does this include people from Italy and Sicily, who are frequently dark in complexion? Does this include the Basques, who don't even speak an Indo-European language? Does this include Armenians, Georgians, and Azerbaijanis? Does this include Muslims in Bosnia? Does this include light-skinned, light-eyed people in North Africa, India, and the Middle East?

In general, every aspect of the ideology that white people are somehow "special" or "better" reeks of insecurity and ignorance. It suggests that white people are a monolithic block, not a hodgepodge of extremely dissimilar cultures/ethnicities who corrupt authorities roped together for their own ends.

First you go on to say that the definition of White isn't clear or properly understood...

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In a very general sense, white people enjoy more prosperity and power, in much the same way as the Mongols, the Arabs, the Huns, the Romans, and the Persians were more prosperous than the peoples they subjugated. Every single one of those groups viewed themselves as being racially superior, especially the Romans, who viewed the Gauls, Germans, and Britons as being uncivilized savages. It's natural for a dominant group to feel this way, but it doesn't make their pretensions of superiority true.

...then you go on to use White as a monolithic term to describe a group of commonly known people. You're at SJW hypocrisy levels right now.

^Yes, I've noticed this trick being used by multiculturalists a lot.

They purposely try to obscure the definition of "White". And it's always been people originating from the European continent.

There's no mystery over who's black or Asian. So what's the game with redefining the white race? Shenanigans...I call it.

(And as a pre-emptive counter attack...)

Agastya will no doubt go off on a red herring about the Kalash in Pakistan or some other people with "white" features outside of Europe.

Breaking news everyone...white people got around.

It doesn't change the fact that there is a race of white people, and their ancestral homeland is Europe.

Honestly, there ought to be a new type of troll designation -- ethnic denialists.

[Brian Shima]

Samseau do you consider yourself white or mixed?

[Captainstabbin]

Fundamentally, traditional American culture is better than other cultures. That culture is primarily called white, but it isn't. When any race lives with traditional American values he becomes part of the greatest culture in the history of the world.

This is why multiculturalism is nonsense. Mexican, French, Russian, Angolan, Egyptian, etc and even smaller subcultures here have nothing to contribute. It's only when people happily renounce their failed heritage and embrace US culture do they become contributors to it. Otherwise it's like walking into a museum and spray painting graffiti on masterpieces.

When someone tells me how proud they are of their whereeverthefuck homeland I just wonder why they don't go back. You'll never hear me talking about the amazing Irish, German, English or French cultures my Great, Great whoever came from because I literally don't give a fuck. We took the best of Europe and made it better than they ever could.

[lskdfjldsf]

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Honest question Blick, have you ever lived or traveled to border states like Texas, California, Arizona and New Mexico? Or traveled by the border South Texas, Southern Cal, etc...? That whole region is overwhelming Hispanic, so its only obvious that the people overseeing the border are going to be Hispanic. You guys do know that the majority of border patrol agents are Hispanic right? They aren't 5'2 oompa loompas either, more like 6'0 feet tall motherfuckers packed with muscle. The older ones have beer guts. I've seen them myself since I cross the border into Mexico all the time when I go on vacation.

Quite a bit actually. LA is shit but I really enjoyed San Diego, Sacramento, Dallas, Albuquerque, and Phoenix while traveling for work (usually 4-6 weeks per year in the West Coast for meetings and conventions). I also went on a few coyote hunting trips in New Mexico with my dad near Hobbs, and went caving in Carlsbad Caverns as a young kid. Besides that, tons of exposure and time spent with Hispanics during my time in the Army. My big brother in my college fraternity was also a Colombian green card holder who joined the Air Force to earn his citizenship.

I've been called a "paradox" by friends of various backgrounds more times than I care to count. I treat everyone I meet - regardless of heritage - with the same level of respect, but my views (basically, advocating for my own group the same way you advocate for yours) can sometimes come off as cruel or harsh to people who have been living under a rainbow-painted rock for the last 50 years. It's not that some views here are extreme, it's that you've had your bread buttered by guilt-ridden equalists for so long that any attempt by Whites to assert themselves seems foreign and unnatural to you.

The more "diverse" the West becomes, the more Whites will collectivize to act in self-interest. Nothing opens society up to conservatism like mortal salience stimuli. I see it first-hand in America, and I see it first-hand in Europe. If you're offended by posts critical of our open borders now, you're going to be absolutely shit-the-bed terrified of the state of discourse when your dream America becomes a reality.

[Easy E]

(07-11-2015 02:22 PM)Blick Mang Wrote:  

The more "diverse" the West becomes, the more Whites will collectivize to act in self-interest. Nothing opens society up to conservatism like mortal salience stimuli. I see it first-hand in America, and I see it first-hand in Europe. If you're offended by posts critical of our open borders now, you're going to be absolutely shit-the-bed terrified of the state of discourse when your dream America becomes a reality.

Not buying it.

The change is happening way too fast. There won't be enough time for a real backlash movement to get going.

Look at how the Confederate flag is being taken down and how everything is "racist" nowadays. You think it will get easier to speak out when whites are actually less than 50% of the population of the USA (which could happen in the next 10 to 15 years)?

The USA is heading for a Brazil-style racial system, and there isn't really much that will be done about it.

[Chick Magnet]

(07-11-2015 02:22 PM)Blick Mang Wrote:  

The more "diverse" America becomes, the more Whites will collectivize to act in self-interest. I see it first-hand in America, and I see it first-hand in Europe. If you're offended by posts critical of our open borders now, you're going to be absolutely shit-the-bed terrified of the state of discourse when your dream America becomes a reality.

Right on.

You can't fundamentally change a nation without pushback.

Most white Americans aren't too happy with the immigration situation, but they're passive about it.

When it dawns on them that they're a minority within their own land, that self-preservation instinct will kick into high hear.

You'll see a hostile herd mentality like you've never witnessed. And everything I'm saying will be deemed quite moderate and reasonable in comparison.

Frankly, the reason why I'm anti-mass immigration...is because I don't want to see the conflict that it inevitably leads too.

The fact is...there isn't a heterogeneous society on earth that works too well.

[TigerMandingo]

(07-11-2015 02:05 PM)Captainstabbin Wrote:  

When someone tells me how proud they are of their whereeverthefuck homeland I just wonder why they don't go back. You'll never hear me talking about the amazing Irish, German, English or French cultures my Great, Great whoever came from because I literally don't give a fuck. We took the best of Europe and made it better than they ever could.

America is all about money and hustling. That's it. And it's a hell of a place to make a good income and buy whatever you want. So in that sense, yes it is the best. Other than that, I can't think of a single thing you might be referring to when you say "we took the best of Europe".

What exactly did you take and make better?

[MidWest]

(07-11-2015 02:05 PM)Captainstabbin Wrote:  

Fundamentally, traditional American culture is better than other cultures. That culture is primarily called white, but it isn't. When any race lives with traditional American values he becomes part of the greatest culture in the history of the world.

This is why multiculturalism is nonsense. Mexican, French, Russian, Angolan, Egyptian, etc and even smaller subcultures here have nothing to contribute. It's only when people happily renounce their failed heritage and embrace US culture do they become contributors to it. Otherwise it's like walking into a museum and spray painting graffiti on masterpieces.

When someone tells me how proud they are of their whereeverthefuck homeland I just wonder why they don't go back. You'll never hear me talking about the amazing Irish, German, English or French cultures my Great, Great whoever came from because I literally don't give a fuck. We took the best of Europe and made it better than they ever could.

Yeah about that


Italian Americans

Irish Americans

Polish Americans

(1940s)

(recently)

Mexican Americans

^^^But when these guys do it, its the end of the world!! When these guys fly Mexican flags they are "Un-American".


More evidence that America is an immigrant nation.

[Eskhander]

Again, this argument that America's lax immigration laws (for European immigrants historically) somehow make it a nation with no traces of nationalism would be like saying that Israel is not explicitly a Jewish nation because it takes Jews from all over the world and has a large non-jewish minority.

Absurd. Israel does what it can to be as Jewish as possible, and America did everything in its power to be as white as possible. Until 1964.

Moreover, saying that America is a nation of immigrants does not make the arguments from the "pro-white members" wrong.
It's a gotcha tactic.

[Captainstabbin]

(07-11-2015 02:55 PM)MidWest Wrote:  

^^^But when these guys do it, its the end of the world!! When these guys fly Mexican flags they are "Un-American".

I hate it when any of them do it. I hate it as much as Gay Pride parades.

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More evidence that America is an immigrant nation.

I wouldn't have a problem with immigration if people would fucking assimilate. And that means NO illegals, NO flags of your former homeland, NO celebrations of your former national pride, NO other languages, NO caring about fucking soccer and NO hyphenated identifiers. When someone says I'm XXXXXX-American it's like saying they are Yugo-Veyron. Whatever comes before American only drags you down, it's worthless, there is no reason to degrade yourself by suggesting that you're less than American...because there's no such thing as being better.