[Mr Finish]

Nice bro.
When a girl mentions a boyfriend it's always good to be unwavering, as if you didn't even hear it. This throws there hamster off.

[calidude]

(03-01-2016 04:13 PM)Mr Finish Wrote:  

Nice bro.
When a girl mentions a boyfriend it's always good to be unwavering, as if you didn't even hear it. This throws there hamster off.

I do that occasionly, but for the most part if a girl says she has a boyfriend I don't really push the interaction further because if she was interested she wouldn't tell you she had a boyfriend to begin with.

[calidude]

I don't think night game is for me becuase every time I go to some bar or club I just end up spending a bunch of money with nothing to show for it; last night I couldn't even manage to get once dance which is pretty frustrating.

[Stimulus]

(03-05-2016 11:14 AM)calidude Wrote:  

(03-01-2016 04:13 PM)Mr Finish Wrote:  

Nice bro.
When a girl mentions a boyfriend it's always good to be unwavering, as if you didn't even hear it. This throws there hamster off.

I do that occasionly, but for the most part if a girl says she has a boyfriend I don't really push the interaction further because if she was interested she wouldn't tell you she had a boyfriend to begin with.

Her mouth is saying she's got a BF. What does her posture say, her behaviour, her expression, tone of her voice?

I'm not saying it's all lies, chances are she really does have a boyfriend, but sometimes they say it in order to keep themselves from giving in on the vibe. Plausible deniability if you like.

I made this mistake a week ago with an 18y/o girl who was all flirty and touchy with me a few minutes after she claimed the BF. In fact even her friends told me she has a boyfriend. Hindsight she gave me more than enough hints and chances to escalate with her but my mind was still at the 'boyfriend' part, thinking I didn't have any chance..

Kicked myself a few times for that one.

[King of Monkeys]

(03-05-2016 11:18 AM)calidude Wrote:  

I don't think night game is for me becuase every time I go to some bar or club I just end up spending a bunch of money with nothing to show for it; last night I couldn't even manage to get once dance which is pretty frustrating.

Right now I'm a poor college student, so if I do go out at night I avoid spending money if I don't absolutely have to. What kinds of places are you going to at night? I'm pretty sure you can get away with going to these places without spending money on anything other than gas to drive your car.

[Mr Finish]

I fumbled on this a couple weeks ago but you can gauge how down she is by how long it takes her to drop the boyfriend line.
Less than 10 minutes? Not too great. If you've been talking for 15 plus and she doesn't mention him, and you're clearly advancing, she may be open to something.

[shy]

The "I have a boyfriend" line is always interesting. Sometimes Girls want to tell you that they are not interested and sometimes they use this line as a shit test on how persistent you are. This line should never throw us off, but I think we Need to take all the signs she is giving us into account. "I have a boyfriend" is not always the hint for us to eject and there lies the Beauty and subtlety of game.
As I approached more and more Girls, I got Kind of resistant to "I have a boyfriend". I came up with the idea of percieving this line, as if she had sneezed. Now, I always say "bless you" and continue with the interaction. It is really effective and it throws the Girl of. Sometimes they Level of attraction Flips from "fuck off" to "wow, what's this guy about?".

I like your comprehensive writing and the work you put into yourself. Keep it up Cali. Having been in the game for only 1.5 years myself I'm always happy to share some experiences.

Cheers, shy.

[calidude]

(03-05-2016 08:15 PM)King of Monkeys Wrote:  

(03-05-2016 11:18 AM)calidude Wrote:  

I don't think night game is for me becuase every time I go to some bar or club I just end up spending a bunch of money with nothing to show for it; last night I couldn't even manage to get once dance which is pretty frustrating.

Right now I'm a poor college student, so if I do go out at night I avoid spending money if I don't absolutely have to. What kinds of places are you going to at night? I'm pretty sure you can get away with going to these places without spending money on anything other than gas to drive your car.

I was in a bit of a shit mood when I wrote this, so I probably won't completely write off night game; I just need to work on doing approaches in these environments. The bars and clubs I go to are usually pretty packed, and a lot of the girls are in groups which stops me from approaching, but if I can approach in the day then I know I can do it at bars/clubs.

[calidude]

So it's been about a month since I last updated this thread, because I haven't really done much these last couple weeks. Today I did seven approaches and of those I got three numbers, but only one seems like a lead.

1. Waking walking to the library I saw a girl sitting by herself eating, so I tracked backed and opened her with my usual opener, "Excuse me I thought you were really pretty, so I had to come and say hi". When i approached her she was sitting sideway, and not facing me. However after chatting for a little bit she eventually moved her body to face me, and then she eventually moved her bag which I took as an invitation to sit down next to her. We chatted a bit, and then after ending the conversation I told her I want to hang out with her later, so I got her number got a hug and parted ways. I texted her with, "hey xxx, it's calidude" and she responded immediately so this one seems positive.

2.Hot Mexican chick was sitting at some table outside working on some homework. Used the usual opener, and we talked for maybe 5-10 minutes but after telling her I want to hang out with her she said she has a boyfriend. Wish she told me after my opener, oh well.

3. Another chick sitting down, but kind of fat. Turns out she's from out of town and just visiting a friend, so I didn't bother getting her number.

4. Used the usual opener, but she said she was actually pregnant and married. She really appreciated the compilment, and kept saying I was really brave and kept saying thank you.

5. Some chick was working on her homework, so after I opened her she said she was actually about to head out for class. For some reason I felt nervous which maybe she sensed, so after like two minutes of taking I got her number and dipped. I have yet to hear back from her, but I don't expect to.

6. Opened a chick who looked cute from a distance, but after she looked up she was mad busted. Threw me off because after I opened her she was really happy, and then started complimenting me. Talked for like 1 minute and got the number. I don't plan on texting her.

7. I was waking to class and there was a girl walking slightly in front of me so I opened her with the usual, but she just said thank you and sped off.

[calidude]

Today I did three approaches and got two numbers, but neither seem like good prospects.

1. I got to campus a little early, so I decided to do an approach before I headed to class. As I'm walking down the main walkway I see a girl who looks pretty cute from behind, so I opened her with the usual "Excuse, I thought you really pretty" line. She seemed pretty receptive, so I started waking with her. We chatted about school stuff, how she moved from NY to CA, and that she's going to Coachella this weekend. I didn't want to walk with her all the way to her class, so after a couple minutes I got her number and gave her a hug. I texted, but no response.

2. See a hot Swedish chick wearing some super skimpy outfit with her tits hanging out and all. Opened her with the usual, but she said she was in a rush and wasn't really receptive.

3. I was eating some lunch I saw this girl about twenty feet away, so after i finished my sandwich I opened her with the usual. Turns out she's Russian so we started talking about that, but she says she hates most Russians. I was sitting across from her, but when she was trying to show me something I used that as an excuse to sit next to her. After like 10 minutes of talking, I go for the number. She didn't want to give it to me, but I eventually convinced her. I gave her a hug, but she wasn't receptive at all.


I texted girl number one from my last post this "how's it going miss photographer"(photography is her hobby) but she hasn't replied.

For you guys who daygame, what is your conversion rate from number to date? Every number I've gotten so far has resulted in nothing.

[calidude]

On Friday I hit up this club in hollywood with LA Savage and two other guys; we got there around a 11 so the club was pretty empty until around 12.

When it started picking up we headed out the the dance floor, and LA Savage and our other friend were talking to these asian girls. I tried to talk one of them, but she just ignored me.

While I was dancing by myself I noticed some girl in the corner of my eye dancing by herself, and she seemed to be getting closer to me so I grabbed her waist and started grinding with her. Eventually I started sticking my hand up her shirt and she didn't resist, so I started grabbing her tits. After doing this for a little bit I turned her around and started making out with her. I ended up fingering her, and then she stuck her hands down my pants and started jerking me off.

While in the middle of making out she pulled away, and when I looked up I had some random girl screaming at me saying that was her girlfriend of five years. I honestly didn't believe her because neither of them looked like lesbians, and what are they doing at a straight club when they could be in West Hollywood. I was so close to getting my first bang, but of course I was cockblocked. This was actually my first ever makeout so I was happy about that.

The rest of the night didn't go so well, and all I got were rude chicks with massive bitch shields.

I definitely need to work on my night game because all it consists off so far is grinding on random chicks, and hoping that one of them is with it. Although I have no problem holding conversations when I do day game for some reason I am incapable of doing it when I'm at some club/bar.

[Rhyme or Reason]

Hey Calidude,

I think you're doing great sharing your approaches here. Other newbs, take notes. This guy is doing something to improve his situation instead of bitching. Cheers CA dude.

[highcardace]

(04-20-2016 05:10 PM)calidude Wrote:  

For you guys who daygame, what is your conversion rate from number to date? Every number I've gotten so far has resulted in nothing.

Although this happens, but it may also be that you are not polarizing her enough, as in flirting/teasing to generate some sexual tension. I had the same issue when I started, I was able to generate a conversation but no flirting or teasing and as expected had mediocre results. Push the limits man, don't limit the conversation just to small talk. Also one of the most important things is connecting emotionally with her, as in share something emotional in which she will reciprocate with something emotional about her and thus remember this when you text her. Don't be afraid to offend her, and don't just stick to "safe" topics of conversation.

Also start your texts with something funny/witty, as in "do you always give out your number to strangers or only the cute ones."

[LA Savage]

It's been months since I last logged in due to school and work. But I must note and give props to Calidude for significantly improving his game compared to last year. From our adventures gaming bitches in the club to running day game on campuses and the beach I must say it's been great watching him grow as a player and learn different methods to game girls successfully. Now that finals are almost completely over and summer is here we are gonna have a great time gaming hot beautiful women all over LA.

Bro I hope you keep this thread updated so other can get motivation to go out and approach like you so that they can grow into a better person.

[calidude]

So it's been a while since I last posted and other than going out with LA Savage I haven't been doing that many approaches. However, I recently transferred from my community college in LA to a Big 10 in the midwest, and just finished my first week of classes. I'm enjoying it so far, and I have been practicing with the rugby team these last couple weeks but I haven't really made any solid friendships yet.

Game wise I have been really avoiding going out because I was afraid of going out solo, and due to this I stayed at home all of welcome week when all the parties were popping (not that I knew where they were). I got home from class today and I was upset I had no plans tonight and nobody to chill with. However I thought fuck it I'll go out by myself tonight and read one of roosh's old posts on going out solo to prep my self. Prior to this I decided to attend a transfer event they had going on, and instead of staying home rationalizing that it's dumb I decided to go and meet some people. I talked to a few people and they were kind of nerdy but they were chill.

I decided to hit up the main college bar, so I got there around 10:45 and it was pretty packed. I went to the dance floor which I usually do, but pretty much all the chicks were in huge groups so I couldn't just go up and grind with them and the music wasn't good for it either. After a while of dancing by myself I decided to head to the bar to do some approaches. After getting a beer I posted up along the short barrier in between the bar and the dance floor to do my approaches. I followed roosh's post and opened with "You look like you're having fun" and I got a couple bites, but I could barely hear what they were saying so the conversation fizzled out but I made sure to put my arm around their shoulders to break the physical barrier. I got a few immediate rejections but whatever. I think I did a total of about six approaches. I wanted to do more but I have to get up early for a rugby game tomorrow and I didn't want to buy another beer.

Overall I had fun even though my approaches didn't really lead anywhere. I don't have a social circle yet so in order to meet chicks I was thinking of running day game, but I don't want to be known on campus as that guy by mass approaching. Should I just approach, maybe, five max a week?

[King of Monkeys]

I think indirect day game will be your best friend here. Just finding ways to approach girls, or people in general, and make the conversation appear organic and natural will pay dividends. This is where Roosh's day game comes in nicely. For instance, say you see a cute girl at a bus stop. You could walk by, and then stand a comfortable distance away but within hearing distance. You could ask for a certain bus's time, make a comment about the surroundings, or find something else to ramble about. Then you could make an excuse to leave saying you're at the wrong bus stop and grab her number, or anything else that works in the situation.

You would have to spam and direct approach girl after girl to get the label of "that one guy," so you're probably in no real danger on this end.

I just started university myself, and I'm working on meeting new people. If you're looking to start social circles, I would suggest looking into clubs for things you like and new things you haven't done before. You could even start a study group for any class you think is particularly challenging, but I'll warn you that making times to meet that work for everyone can be a bitch.

Also, recognition and familiarity are powerful. If you talk to and meet with new people, however briefly, it can help you in situations where someone recognizes you and is immediately more friendly because of it. I've met people at my university who went to my community college with me. Some people are warmer because they like seeing a familiar face, but most of the people who were cold/neutral to me didn't change much.

It's good to see you posting again. I've seen a large amount of newbie approach threads start out active and then peter out permanently.

[calidude]

I haven't posted in a while because I've been pretty busy with school and work, and I broke my wrist in a rugby game a couple weeks ago which sucks.

I honestly thought attending a proper four year university and living on my own in apartment close to campus would get me laid, but so far nothing and my interaction with girls has been close to non existent these last two months. I'm honestly really frustrated and just want to give up at this point. Everywhere I go I overhear people talking about who hooked up with who, and it makes me feel like shit.

Last night we(the rugby team) had a mixer with some sorority and even then I couldn't even get a single dance while everybody else was making out with chicks and whatnot. I tried to approach a few girls but they just gave me weird looks so I just said fuck it and got shitfaced.

Even back in LA when I was approaching a lot I would be lucky if they even replied to my text, but it never led to a date or anything.