[WalterBlack]

(06-01-2015 01:01 PM)KorbenDallas Wrote:  

Speakeasy, its not. At this rate, native Europeans will be minorities in their own countries within fifty years. European south Africans have already been put on "genocide" watch. The native Americans were wiped out not in a decade like other genocides, but over centuries, this does not make it less of a genocide. Feminism, white guilt, abortions, and immigration is doing the same thing to European peoples. This is also being done to blacks in the united states and African Christians living in Africa.

A birth rate of far less than replacement level combined with massive immigration of foreign populations with different ancestry and religion is genocide. I don't understand how it can be categorized as anything else.

I don't think immigrant kids will overrun these countries. The kids of immigrants who are born and raised in European countries tend to have less kids than their parents. My parents’ generation came to the UK from India in the 1960s and the average number of kids was between 4 to 6. The people of my generation on average have 2 kids. It’s too expensive to raise lots of kids in the UK nowadays unless you’re rich or you get a lot of help from the government.

In the street that I grew up 20 years ago, there were so many kids that we use to have soccer matches with about 20-30 kids. My nephew still lives in the same street that I grew up and there’s only 2 or 3 boys of his age on the street, compared to over 20 in the 1980s and 1990s.

The issue is that educated people tend not to have many kids, the people who tend to have the most kids in UK tend to come from white trashy background or are fresh off the boat immigrants.

In an ideal world I would like to have 4 or 5 kids, but it’s almost impossible to find a woman in the west who would agree to that nowadays.

What is retarded is that the European governments tend house a lot of the poorer immigrants in the same area creating racial ghettos. That is not good for community relations. I have a Bangladeshi friend who grew up in East London in government housing. He finds it hard to relate to white British people because he rarely interacted with them when he was growing up.

[speakeasy]

(06-01-2015 02:13 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

(06-01-2015 02:10 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

There is no genocide on whites. Their dwindling numbers are occurring for reasons that are entirely self-chosen. This isn't a condition that is being imposed upon them by an outside ethnic group, like the Armenian or Rwandan genocide.

It's definitely not self-chosen, and there will be civil wars because of this.

Who is imposing low-birth rates upon whites against their(supposed) will?

[Samseau]

(06-01-2015 02:20 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

(06-01-2015 02:13 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

(06-01-2015 02:10 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

There is no genocide on whites. Their dwindling numbers are occurring for reasons that are entirely self-chosen. This isn't a condition that is being imposed upon them by an outside ethnic group, like the Armenian or Rwandan genocide.

It's definitely not self-chosen, and there will be civil wars because of this.

Who is imposing low-birth rates upon whites against their(supposed) will?

Who imposed feminism on women to brainwash them?

Who rigged family law courts?

Who opens borders? (In Europe the borders are along the PIIGS countries and they are currently being overrun.)

Who outsources jobs?

Whatever your answers are to the above questions, none of the answers will be "the Europeans/Americans choose this."

[aSimpNamedBrokeback]

(06-01-2015 02:35 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

Who imposed feminism on women to brainwash them?

Who rigged family law courts?

Who opens borders? (In Europe the borders are along the PIIGS countries and they are currently being overrun.)

Who outsources jobs?

Whatever your answers are to the above questions, none of the answers will be "the Europeans/Americans choose this."

Greed/Capitalism is the answer to last three questions, "women" for the first.

[speakeasy]

(06-01-2015 02:35 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

(06-01-2015 02:20 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

(06-01-2015 02:13 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

(06-01-2015 02:10 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

There is no genocide on whites. Their dwindling numbers are occurring for reasons that are entirely self-chosen. This isn't a condition that is being imposed upon them by an outside ethnic group, like the Armenian or Rwandan genocide.

It's definitely not self-chosen, and there will be civil wars because of this.

Who is imposing low-birth rates upon whites against their(supposed) will?

Who imposed feminism on women to brainwash them?

Who rigged family law courts?

Who opens borders? (In Europe the borders are along the PIIGS countries and they are currently being overrun.)

Who outsources jobs?

Whatever your answers are to the above questions, none of the answers will be "the Europeans/Americans choose this."

And the bottom line is that it isn't non-whites imposing these things on whites so calling this a genocide is a misnomer.

[catoblepa]

middle-class culture is also responsible for declining Birth rate. parents are too anxious and large families are considered a stressful burden so they don't go past an average of two kids for couple.

[Eskhander]

To be fair, East Germany I would bet drags the average down. Because East Germany had a low birth rate prior to the wall falling while many other USSR territories had replacement level.

[Eskhander]

(06-01-2015 02:10 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

Genocides involve killing. That's what the -cide affix means. And the implication is that the killing is coming from a different group, otherwise we'd use the word suicide. So if this were something worthy of -icide, it would be closer to the latter than the prior since they are doing this to themselves.

Not exactly, when China flooded Tibet with Han Chinese it was called Genocide. Because it was a deliberate attempt to dispossess them

[aSimpNamedBrokeback]

(06-01-2015 03:24 PM)catoblepa Wrote:  

middle-class culture is also responsible for declining Birth rate. parents are too anxious and large families are considered a stressful burden so they don't go past an average of two kids for couple.

There also expensive as fuck.

[speakeasy]

(06-01-2015 03:31 PM)Eskhander Wrote:  

(06-01-2015 02:10 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

Genocides involve killing. That's what the -cide affix means. And the implication is that the killing is coming from a different group, otherwise we'd use the word suicide. So if this were something worthy of -icide, it would be closer to the latter than the prior since they are doing this to themselves.

Not exactly, when China flooded Tibet with Han Chinese it was called Genocide. Because it was a deliberate attempt to dispossess them

Displacement != genocide. By that definition Mexican-Americans in California are committing genocide against whites. Or blacks committed genocide against whites in Detroit.

[Eskhander]

(06-01-2015 03:53 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

(06-01-2015 03:31 PM)Eskhander Wrote:  

(06-01-2015 02:10 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

Genocides involve killing. That's what the -cide affix means. And the implication is that the killing is coming from a different group, otherwise we'd use the word suicide. So if this were something worthy of -icide, it would be closer to the latter than the prior since they are doing this to themselves.

Not exactly, when China flooded Tibet with Han Chinese it was called Genocide. Because it was a deliberate attempt to dispossess them

Displacement != genocide. By that definition Mexican-Americans in California are committing genocide against whites. Or blacks committed genocide against whites in Detroit.

When you have it being called Genocide for one people but not another that only makes it look more suspicious.
Now, let's say Blacks and Hispanics were directed to continue this pattern all over the United States. That would be comparable to Tibet since that was country-wide. So it's a bit of a misleading comparison to take cities and countries.

[KorbenDallas]

Tibet is the only place in the world where Tibetans live and that their culture is the dominant one. Displacing them in their homeland and changing the mainstream culture in their homeland is genocide. One century they have a homeland and culture, the next century they are just a minority with a niche culture and then the next they are indistinguishable from the conquered Indians. A minority living in their former homeland with lower status than the dominant Han that have replaced them.

[Eskhander]

(06-01-2015 02:19 PM)WalterBlack Wrote:  

(06-01-2015 01:01 PM)KorbenDallas Wrote:  

Speakeasy, its not. At this rate, native Europeans will be minorities in their own countries within fifty years. European south Africans have already been put on "genocide" watch. The native Americans were wiped out not in a decade like other genocides, but over centuries, this does not make it less of a genocide. Feminism, white guilt, abortions, and immigration is doing the same thing to European peoples. This is also being done to blacks in the united states and African Christians living in Africa.

A birth rate of far less than replacement level combined with massive immigration of foreign populations with different ancestry and religion is genocide. I don't understand how it can be categorized as anything else.

I don't think immigrant kids will overrun these countries. The kids of immigrants who are born and raised in European countries tend to have less kids than their parents.

This. However, making Europe a hodge podge is still greatly unfair to Europeans.
It's also unfair to immigrants who came and responsibly assimilated because immigration will forever carry a stigma.

[BoiBoi]

There is a book by a German university prof called "Sons and power". You can download it here for free (in German).
He streeses the point that just by looking at birthrates, you can determin which cultures will turn to violence and succeed in the long run. He brings up very convincing examples from history and really frightening current stats (frightening if you are European/ American).

I think, that basically, we are fucked. Over the course of the next generations, the face of Germany will change fundamentally. At least in the bigger cities, it'll be a giant meltingpot of the cultures/ races and some day the blonds will be outnumbered and we'll get a Turkish Chancellor.

The upside of this development for me personally is that I prefer brown chicks anyways.

[Samseau]

(06-01-2015 03:21 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

(06-01-2015 02:35 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

(06-01-2015 02:20 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

(06-01-2015 02:13 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

(06-01-2015 02:10 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

There is no genocide on whites. Their dwindling numbers are occurring for reasons that are entirely self-chosen. This isn't a condition that is being imposed upon them by an outside ethnic group, like the Armenian or Rwandan genocide.

It's definitely not self-chosen, and there will be civil wars because of this.

Who is imposing low-birth rates upon whites against their(supposed) will?

Who imposed feminism on women to brainwash them?

Who rigged family law courts?

Who opens borders? (In Europe the borders are along the PIIGS countries and they are currently being overrun.)

Who outsources jobs?

Whatever your answers are to the above questions, none of the answers will be "the Europeans/Americans choose this."

And the bottom line is that it isn't non-whites imposing these things on whites so calling this a genocide is a misnomer.

Genocide isn't necessarily about race. For example, the Romans genocided Carthage even though they were both mediterranean Caucasians.

[lskdfjldsf]

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I think, that basically, we are fucked. Over the course of the next generations, the face of Germany will change fundamentally. At least in the bigger cities, it'll be a giant meltingpot of the cultures/ races and some day the blonds will be outnumbered and we'll get a Turkish Chancellor.

Your grandfathers didn't fight and die by the millions in places like the Teutoburg Forest, Vienna, Verdun, the Somme, Tobruk, and Stalingrad to see the country roll over on its back and surrender a century later.

What you're taught are scars and wounds in school are really badges of honor and a source of strength. Germany deserves a victory - spread the truth, take pride in your heritage, love your women (at replacement level), and you'll have it.

[Hotwheels]

We need some real wars to get men and women back in their biological roles.

[infowarrior1]

(06-01-2015 06:32 PM)Hotwheels Wrote:  

We need some real wars to get men and women back in their biological roles.

Not necessarily. For example in certain leftist influenced cultures. This is what ends up happening:



Maybe nature will take its course but from the start it may look like that.

[rudebwoy]

(06-01-2015 01:01 PM)KorbenDallas Wrote:  

Speakeasy, its not. At this rate, native Europeans will be minorities in their own countries within fifty years. European south Africans have already been put on "genocide" watch. The native Americans were wiped out not in a decade like other genocides, but over centuries, this does not make it less of a genocide. Feminism, white guilt, abortions, and immigration is doing the same thing to European peoples. This is also being done to blacks in the united states and African Christians living in Africa.

A birth rate of far less than replacement level combined with massive immigration of foreign populations with different ancestry and religion is genocide. I don't understand how it can be categorized as anything else.

Native Americans were killed by the European invaders. A lot different than German women who does not want to have children, but rather enjoy what life has to offer.
Simple solution is for all European women to start having babies, it aint that simple is it. So lets blame the immigrants for having babies.

When will people realize that by giving women so much equality and access to abortions, you have decreased the birth rate drastically. This of course is what the powers that be want.

Compare that to the UK, welfare class people pop out kids because they aren't forced to work.

[N°6]

(06-01-2015 10:09 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

The last time birthrates were this low in Germany, a man named Hitler came to power. Jus' sayin

The Frankfurt School, low birthrates, the SJW and the weird and wonderful sexual identity politics that exist in the West ALL come from the ethos of the Weimar Republic.

The Old Communists in Berlin hated how the Trotskyites were fusing sexual politics with the class struggle and many joined the National Socialists instead.

[N°6]

(06-01-2015 03:11 PM)aSimpNamedBrokeback Wrote:  

(06-01-2015 02:35 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

Who imposed feminism on women to brainwash them?

Who rigged family law courts?

Who opens borders? (In Europe the borders are along the PIIGS countries and they are currently being overrun.)

Who outsources jobs?

Whatever your answers are to the above questions, none of the answers will be "the Europeans/Americans choose this."

Greed/Capitalism is the answer to last three questions, "women" for the first.

International capitalism which has been in alliance with the New Left's International Socialism since the late-60s is the cause of this.

European women who are deemed to be more productive and therefore more taxable are to be in work, with any child that makes it past through the pill thrown into the fires of Molech while wombs from more fecund climates are to be imported so that future Matrix tax payers can be produced.

The problem is that immigrant wombs produce less and less children after each generation passes thus requiring the importation of even more replacement level waves of immigrants.

Like a cancer, international capital and its international socialist gatekeepers need continual growth.

At least we can sing about it.

[KorbenDallas]

Not true. They were mainly killed by disease. But also, they were forced to abandon their traditional culture and gender roles once forced on the reservations. Sitting bulls followers who made it to Canada fared much better than those who submitted to reservation rule.

The story of the reservations is similar to what western nations resemble today. Giant reservations.

In my opinion.

[mikado]

Again the immigrants are blamed for the behaviour of the native females who refuse to have many kids/earlier.

What isn't the fault of immigrants today? I think this is far more quicker to answer.

[KorbenDallas]

Who is blaming immigrants? The way I live my life, I have more in common with the Mexicans and Armenian immigrants I have dealings with than most Americans.

This isn't a racial thing. European people have a right to exist as a people and immigration is not the solution to low birthrates. Higher birthrates and a cultural reformation led by our intellectuals, political leaders, and religious leaders and regular people speaking up and defending our right to exist and enforce our borders and celebrate our unique heritages.

Immigration is fine in limited amounts and as long as immigrants respect our values. The middle east, Africa, and asia, most of those countries rule this way. It is common sense and time for western nations to return to reality and behave with the interests of the people or peoples in the case of america whose ancestors built their respective countries.

[Roosh]

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Whatever your answers are to the above questions, none of the answers will be "the Europeans/Americans choose this."

Do you believe that Americans are completely blameless in whatever happens to them, and are helplessly controlled through the actions of outside non-American groups?

While the consequences of certain ideological movements that led to now wasn't completely known, the former and current American elite threw their people and culture under the bus for promises of more power and money.