[GreenHills]

(05-26-2015 08:58 PM)Roardog Wrote:  

I also told her that I don't care what hers is as no good ever comes out of knowing.

I don't get why people obsess about it so much. The best case scenario is that it has no impact and worse case is it blows up into a big deal.
I never tell girls what mine is.

Agreed. I don't care about notch counts as long as they're under 20. 5? 10? 15? I don't give a shit, it's not too much anyways.

Women are sometimes stupid when it comes to this. They think "I'll show him I've been with many men and he'll think I'm so desirable" or "I'll show him I've been with many men and he'll realize he better man up and commit, since I'm so in demand". It has the opposite effect.

Last two girls I was involved with for a bit more had low notch counts. I assume 10 maybe, I didn't ask for a number, just a ballpark estimate. They never brought up exes excessively, neither they had slut telltale signs. That's good enough for me. I'm always amused at this study about how women with 1 notch don't divorce and women with 5 notches divorce. Come on, that's not practical thinking.

The rest is gossip. I hung out with a friend of mine who at 24 admitted to 50 guys. But it was obvious, the number wasn't more telling than her behavior.

[N°6]

(05-26-2015 05:39 PM)marty Wrote:  

(05-26-2015 01:02 PM)Dipar Wrote:  

(05-26-2015 12:23 PM)TripleG Wrote:  

The difference between guys and girls notch counts though is that the pussy get's damaged and loose. I refuse to believe the crap that doctor's say about how it will get back to it's normal shape, heck no. Oh, and God forbid that a girl has a kid(s) and go's back to the dating market, the pussy will never look or feel the same to the next beta who ends up banging her.

What difference does it make if a girl has - let's say - 50 times sex with 50 different guys or 50 times with only one guy?

This. From an anatomical standpoint having sex with 50 times with 50 different guys is basically the same as having 50 times with the same guy, so what you're saying doesn't make sense.

There's also the psychological elements and of course, the small matter of the soul.

The Captain Save-a-Hoe husband is destined to wake up to his bride staring into space one morning before she breaks the bombshell, 'I'm just not feeling it any more - it's not you, it's me.' She'll be damn right but the Capt. will never understand why.

He'd already lost her before he even met her through extreme rectro-actif cuckoldry. .

[Geomann180]

If I'm not gonna marry the girl, I'll never ask because I don't care.

I avoid girls I suspect are human petri-dishes for my own health, not because I don't like fucking girls who've been around.

If I'm going to marry the girl, it'll be a year or two after she tells me that she's glad I'm her first.

G

[Grad]

In my younger days, a cousin of mine organized this chick to join us guys at a party( My cousin was a little bit older than us. I think he and his friends used to hang with this chick). So I was just told to pick her up at local take out joint. Picked her up, she was a 4 but what the heck, I was told she was ready to fuck no gaming required.

In any case took her to my friends house were we were having our little party. Booze , BBQ and drugs happening outside, banging happening inside. There were only 4 of us at our private party. 3 guys and this chick.

I went in the room with her first since I was the one who organized it. There was just a mattress on the floor and my friends large fish tank with discus. A nice scene. Tissue paper and condoms placed neatly next to the mattress.

Banged her, then called the next guy straight away. He did the deed and the next guy came in.

After we all shot out loads we were chilling outside with big smiles on our faces then this chick also comes outside.

She says that 3 guys is not enough, she wants more. It was all hands on deck at that point. We managed to scrape up 4 more friends. So 7 guys in total in one night , one after the other plus some of the guys went for seconds.

This chick was a regular for us for lets say 5 or 6 of these scenes. Most we had was 10 guys for this one chick in one night.

After a while the novelty of this scene wore off and we passed her on to another group of willing takers and so she passed into legend.

One of my friends bumped into her recently after about 10 years. She was with her husband! Poor guy, if he only knew what she was up to before he married her. He will probably commit suicide.

Notch count : judging by what she used to do in one night. Could be well over 500.

[Pride male]

Still not convinced about the negative psychological effects sluttery can have on a woman.

[almohajem]

(05-27-2015 07:14 AM)Pride male Wrote:  

Still not convinced about the negative psychological effects sluttery can have on a woman.

I think it depends. If she went through pump+dump she might become damaged goods. If she was just open sexually and did no strings-attached sex, then maybe that doesn't affect her.

That being said, I have very little experience. So let the big guys comment on this.

[Pride male]

Chicken and egg debate. Does sluttery eat a girl's soul? Maybe the broad that fucks 100+ guys was mentally unbalanced before she ever got on the cock carousel.

[realologist]

^^^^^
That's how is really is. I think its with anything. The big sluts and hoes have a predisposition to becoming a slut. Then they are in an environment that breeds them, along with the pumping and dumping makes them feel that's all they are worth. It is very rare that a girl doesn't get affected by a pump and dump and she will already have tons of different problems.

[YossariansRight]

RE: Notch counts. If she's a ONS, plate, rotation member, etc., who gives a shit? Here today, gone tomorrow (or sooner).

If she's someone you want "more" from, then hope for the best but prepare for the worst. If you suspect "the worst", then you need to decide if you really want to know.

Keep it simple and sussinct. No need to waste time overthinking this. If you manage to snag the mythical flying unicorn, congrats!

[Troutslayer]

Really disappointed in some of you guys.

"Any less than twenty and I'd marry her."
"It doesn't matter; it's just an arbitrary number."

What has been a woman's greatest asset throughout history? Virginity. Why? Past behavior is the best indicator of future behavior. A chaste girl is by definition less likely to cuckhold. These days expecting virginity from a potential wife/LTR might be a stretch (heh) but by failing to hold quality women to some sort of low promiscuity standard you are the problem. By all means enjoy the sluts at your leisure but Christ, don't put on blinders and marry one.

[CH-Toronto]

(05-27-2015 09:26 AM)Troutslayer Wrote:  

Really disappointed in some of you guys.

"Any less than twenty and I'd marry her."
"It doesn't matter; it's just an arbitrary number."

What has been a woman's greatest asset throughout history? Virginity. Why? Past behavior is the best indicator of future behavior. A chaste girl is by definition less likely to cuckhold. These days expecting virginity from a potential wife/LTR might be a stretch (heh) but by failing to hold quality women to some sort of low promiscuity standard you are the problem. By all means enjoy the sluts at your leisure but Christ, don't put on blinders and marry one.

The "new issue" is growing up a virgin/chaste in Western society and marrying - can get a girl thinking, "I wish I had explored more".

[Pride male]

Tyler Durden's Secret Society states that members have an unspoken tolerance for sexual promiscuity. Some dudes have a high slut tolerance like Kanye and have no problems wifing up a pornstar.

I have found that being carefree, non judgemental and sexual openess does wonders for pick up. Women can sense if you are sexually conservative.

Thus when you show you are ok with her sluttery you encounter less anti slut defence, lmrs and false rape accusations.

[robreke]

(05-26-2015 12:23 PM)TripleG Wrote:  

The difference between guys and girls notch counts though is that the pussy get's damaged and loose. I refuse to believe the crap that doctor's say about how it will get back to it's normal shape, heck no. Oh, and God forbid that a girl has a kid(s) and go's back to the dating market, the pussy will never look or feel the same to the next beta who ends up banging her.

This is the reason why guy/girl notch counts can't be compared as male anatomy doesn't really change due to more/fewer notches while the female one get's damaged.

Men are the penetrators. Women get penetrated. They take it. We give it. Their vagina's turn into a side of roast beef with flaps hanging out over the course of years of taking too many cocks so you're right.
In addition to the fact that sex has more of a physical impact on women, it also has more of a spiritual and emotional impact. Women who have had too much sex with too many guys reach a 'breaking point' where they develop the 1000 cock stare. They completely lose their ability to pair bond with a man. They become, in one sense or another, insane.
A man with a high notch count can still be a good husband and even loyal later in life. A woman with a high notch count likely can not.

[Caligula]

(05-27-2015 10:18 AM)Pride male Wrote:  

Tyler Durden's Secret Society states that members have an unspoken tolerance for sexual promiscuity. Some dudes have a high slut tolerance like Kanye and have no problems wifing up a pornstar.

I have found that being carefree, non judgemental and sexual openess does wonders for pick up. Women can sense if you are sexually conservative.

Thus when you show you are ok with her sluttery you encounter less anti slut defence, lmrs and false rape accusations.

It's not hard to play along being fine with this. You can put on your non-judgemental act if you're just trying to have fun with her.

Indeed that makes it more likely that you'll know the truth if you're ever curious, since she'll be less defensive.

This double standard is a male prerogative: one for flings and another for commitment. It's not either / or.

[Caligula]

For those of you wondering about the psychological effects of girls sleeping around, here's one explanation offered by Houellebecq in his novel Whatever.

Quote:

From the amorous point of view, Veronique belonged, as we all do, to a sacrificed generation. She had certainly been capable of love; she wished to still be capable it, I’ll say that for her; but it was no longer possible. A scarce, artificial and belated phenomenon, love can only blossom under certain mental conditions, rarely conjoined, and totally opposed to the freedom of morals which characterizes the modern era. Veronique had known too many discotheques, too many lovers; such a way of life impoverishes a human being, inflicting sometimes serious and always irreversible damage. Love as a kind of innocence and as a capacity for other sex in a single loved being rarely, resists a year of sexual immorality, and never two. In reality the successive sexual experiences accumulated during adolescence undermine and rapidly destroy all possibility of projection of an emotional and romantic sort; progressively, and in fact extremely quickly, one becomes as capable of love as an old slag. And so one leads, obviously, a slag’s life; in ageing one becomes less seductive, and on that account, bitter. One is jealous of the younger, and so one hates them. Condemned to remain unvowable, this hatred festers and becomes increasingly fervent; then it dies down and fades away, just as everything fades away. All that remains is resentment and disgust, sickness and the anticipation of death.

Thus why some consider women's extramarital sex to be infidelity to their future husband.

[Gunner]

The topic of "the number" is really arbitrary and cultural oriented. While being in LatAm for most of my life I know girls that are in the 6-10 range (I vouch for them) and they feel slutty and that no guy would want to be with them. They are mostly family oriented and nice girls all around, not hot, not ugly, just average.

On the other hand you have all the bonafide party sluts that are in the ~50 range, but I know from girls that I have been with and that share their stories and their friends' stories with me that the average is much lower than the States. Or maybe is just the social circles that I move. In Mexico marrying a virgin is still really important for some guys and his families, for other guys they prefer to not know or they accept if the girls have been in other long relationship in high school or college (something in the ~5 range I assume).

You also have this double standard that I have seen with other girl friends that they are really proud in Mexico but as soon as they do an exchange Erasmus program in Europe they have a new guy every 15 days.
So in the end, better not to spend a lot of brain power on this matter, "the number" is the type of thought that could consume a man.

[samsamsam]

Some of the comments triggered this movie clip for me.

This is my deep contribution.

[Blackwell]

I have fucked a girl who I knew had boned over 50 dudes.

It's gross I know but it was easy. Sue me.

[Onto]

(05-27-2015 02:27 PM)Blackwell Wrote:  

I have fucked a girl who I knew had boned over 50 dudes.

It's gross I know but it was easy. Sue me.

I would if I weren't worried about a counter-suit.

[Fortis]

What about dudes who sleep around a ton? I have a friend who has a very high notch count 100+ and he has never been in a relationship longer than 3 months. I think he's sort of pussied out in a way. Like, he can't bond because he never did it before, sort of like a girl who gets too "dicked" out and can never bond properly with one dick because she spent her life hopping on cock.

I think it goes both ways, really. That isn't to say that a high notch count in men always means they can't bond, but I think it is foolish to assume that you can skewer hundreds of women then settle down when it's about that time. Delusional, even.

[CH-Toronto]

(05-27-2015 02:44 PM)Fortis Wrote:  

I think it goes both ways, really. That isn't to say that a high notch count in men always means they can't bond, but I think it is foolish to assume that you can skewer hundreds of women then settle down when it's about that time. Delusional, even.

Nope it doesn't. It can be 'debatable' but a guy who has slept with 50 women isn't nearly as damaged as a woman who slept with '50 guys'.

[DonnyGately]

(05-27-2015 10:18 AM)Pride male Wrote:  

Tyler Durden's Secret Society states that members have an unspoken tolerance for sexual promiscuity. Some dudes have a high slut tolerance like Kanye and have no problems wifing up a pornstar.

I have found that being carefree, non judgemental and sexual openess does wonders for pick up. Women can sense if you are sexually conservative.

Thus when you show you are ok with her sluttery you encounter less anti slut defence, lmrs and false rape accusations.

I couldn't agree more. There are college girls I banged where I was the ~3rd, and a year later there were on 12, 15, 20. They were still hot as hell and great in bed and superfun to be with. Why on earth would you pass that up for a ONS or FB?

[Fortis]

(05-27-2015 03:27 PM)CH-Toronto Wrote:  

(05-27-2015 02:44 PM)Fortis Wrote:  

I think it goes both ways, really. That isn't to say that a high notch count in men always means they can't bond, but I think it is foolish to assume that you can skewer hundreds of women then settle down when it's about that time. Delusional, even.

Nope it doesn't. It can be 'debatable' but a guy who has slept with 50 women isn't nearly as damaged as a woman who slept with '50 guys'.

THere is the rub. Not as damaged, but there is still damage. DOn't worry, I want to break 50, so I'll talk when I get there. I don't presume to make it through and then be able to go back like it's nothing.


I don't mean this as an insult or anything. Have you broken 50 and tried to get into an LTR? I am just curious.

Any high-notch bros got any input on this?

[Mujeriego]

I don't understand the big fuss. You won't be the first, and you sure as hell won't be the last. There's a million other things you could be focusing your energy on other than some chick's notch count that you're going to pump and dump anyway.

[Thatdude]

Back in the day I used to give a shit. Then some chick told me she slept with 9 dudes after she broke up her bf.............6 months ago. One of my first eye opening red pill moments. Haven't really given a fuck since.