[Exiliado]

I never think positive because when I do something bad always happens.

[ballsyamog]

It's really hard to remain positive with women after experiencing how cynical most women are and reading the stuff listed in this thread "Most scandalous things you've heard girls say"

[fiasco360]

I think the whole nature of certain forums is to discuss your problems (otherwise why would you go initially?) Hence why people here don't have a bunch of posts that are positive. Couple that with group think and the "interesting" nature of women and you have a recipe for a lot of negativity.

That being said there are a lot of great posts on this forum with varying insights. I compare it to bodybuilding where you first start and are given a lot of information, you get in the trenches and progress a bit. After that you end up soaking in more knowledge and seeing what is legitimate advice or bullshit advice. You try new things and see what works best for you. You end up getting to your goal weight and body fat - and then all of a sudden you can enter a cycle of never being big enough (no not a 'cycle') Hopefully you end up getting over that to some degree and end up progressing (albeit much much slower now) and realize that it's the journey of it that makes it worthwhile.

How many times have you gotten what you wanted and thought "that's it?" Money, sex, muscles - all that good stuff is still a byproduct of what your main focus should be and that's a purpose in your life.

[Class-8]

I got two numbers from some girls in my class-one before the other- and I was texting them. One was not into anything right of the bat, even though we got together well, but being positive, I just stopped texting her. The other one was really into it, and since I was not looking to get laid, I would just engage in some small talk. We would sometimes send texts minutes after another, which was way different; but she was not born in the usa, and had not picked up that "text four hours later" things that American girls do. It was a nice change. I got to open more FOB women!

[OregonToSoCal]

For the last week I've been making a conscious effort to steer all of my thoughts towards positive outcomes and coincidence or not, my results have dramatically improved. The catalyst to this change in thinking was reading Gio's latest approach threads. He approaches girl after girl and routinely gets shot down yet he mentally responds to each rejection with a playful, optimistic attitude. I don't live near a major university like Gio but I've been on an OKC blitz of sorts this last week and have been trying to channel Gio's approach with every message I send or "rejected" conversation I encounter. For the week I had 4 first dates. Of those 4 dates 2 resulted in bangs, 1 was a near bang (makeout, fingering, tit sucking) and the remaining date resulted in a makeout.

It's a small sample size but it's giving me perspective as to how negative my thinking had been and I was always expecting the worst from women. Of course things are not going to go the way we always hope but we can control our reactions to whatever happens to us.

[Samseau]

I've found that the power of positive thinking is a placebo; works for some guys but not needed for others. I keep an honest approach and just accept that today's women are trash and vast swathes of society are currently collapsing. It bothers me tremendously but I know better than to stop approaching when I want to get pussy.

My state of mind has zero effect on the quality or frequency of the women I've pulled/banged in the past. In fact most of the hottest, youngest, and freshest pussy has come while I was in some of my darkest and foulest moods.

I've found zero correlation between positive thinking and positive results, but that's just because I can completely ignore my own inner state and make myself do things. I understand most men cannot and therefore need to just keep repeating, "Happy thoughts, happy thoughts, happy thoughts."

[robreke]

(05-29-2015 08:28 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

I've found that the power of positive thinking is a placebo; works for some guys but not needed for others. I keep an honest approach and just accept that today's women are trash and vast swathes of society are currently collapsing. It bothers me tremendously but I know better than to stop approaching when I want to get pussy.

My state of mind has zero effect on the quality or frequency of the women I've pulled/banged in the past. In fact most of the hottest, youngest, and freshest pussy has come while I was in some of my darkest and foulest moods.

I've found zero correlation between positive thinking and positive results, but that's just because I can completely ignore my own inner state and make myself do things. I understand most men cannot and therefore need to just keep repeating, "Happy thoughts, happy thoughts, happy thoughts."

Positive thinking can keep you going and working towards your goal regardless of the shit storm today's women throw at you. It will get you laid and perhaps, eventually to find a quality girl.

However...

Girls are going to flake anywhere from pre-first date to post bang left and right regardless of how positive you think the interaction may go.

Positive thinking isn't going to change their shitty behavior if that's what a particular girl is prone to.

[BlurredSevens]

(05-29-2015 08:28 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

I've found that the power of positive thinking is a placebo; works for some guys but not needed for others. I keep an honest approach and just accept that today's women are trash and vast swathes of society are currently collapsing. It bothers me tremendously but I know better than to stop approaching when I want to get pussy.

My state of mind has zero effect on the quality or frequency of the women I've pulled/banged in the past. In fact most of the hottest, youngest, and freshest pussy has come while I was in some of my darkest and foulest moods.

I've found zero correlation between positive thinking and positive results, but that's just because I can completely ignore my own inner state and make myself do things. I understand most men cannot and therefore need to just keep repeating, "Happy thoughts, happy thoughts, happy thoughts."

Debating the effects of positive thinking wasn't really the point of the thread.

I would never suggest that a man repeats "happy thoughts happy thoughts" in his head, because that would be ineffectual.

Rather, I am suggesting that men focus on the positive experiences they have had with women, rather than turning the forum into a wailing wall or a place filled with negativity and hatred toward women, which is the current trend here.

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You said yourself that you "just accept that today's women are trash and vast swathes of society are currently collapsing."

Well, that's not really true. It's just an opinion that you've reinforced by reading too much negative shit. Confirmation bias through and through.

Humans are exactly the same as they have been for millennia, you're just choosing to see the dark side of things.

So, this thread is an attempt to balance out the scales. To remind each other that women are just women, and sometimes they can add great value to a man's life.

There is a lot of good out there. But, you have to choose to see it first.

[StrikeBack]

I like the idea of this thread, because I'm a positive man and I'm nearly always in a good mood. Positivity has got me many things in life and achieving what others thought impossible. It led me through an injury that my head coach in powerlifting with 30 years experience thought would've ended my career to reaching elite grading level. It helped me lead my young tech startup team through the dark times to currently attracting millions in fundings. When I go out dancing socially, people (usually older women) would comment on the joy they see expressed on my face. I can find happiness in the simple things in life, like taking a bite on a juicy crunchy apple.

The one thing I'm not sure that it helps at all is attracting Western women. If like attracts like, then women around here must be (and experiences can prove it) a very negative bunch. They seem to prefer the "Wounded Birds" type and would dig around to find out if I'm as messed up as they are. I've had to fake negativity sometimes to stop them from shutting down and going radio silence. I get the most attention from them when I'm occasionally super tired from work or training and appear to be grumpy or sad. They'd mistake it for me being fucked up or whatever, until they realised that I'm still happy, just tired.

Don't get me wrong, while I remain skeptical, I still think being positive is the way to go. I see it as filtering out all the garbage chicks you do not want. Sadly that probably means 99.99999999% of them. I don't believe that being positive will turn you into a chick magnet here in the West.

In saying that, as I run through the positive experiences with women in my head, one theme comes straight up: they are all foreign. So perhaps that's teaching me a lesson I need to take more seriously...

[Samseau]

(05-29-2015 10:17 PM)BlurredSevens Wrote:  

(05-29-2015 08:28 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

I've found that the power of positive thinking is a placebo; works for some guys but not needed for others. I keep an honest approach and just accept that today's women are trash and vast swathes of society are currently collapsing. It bothers me tremendously but I know better than to stop approaching when I want to get pussy.

My state of mind has zero effect on the quality or frequency of the women I've pulled/banged in the past. In fact most of the hottest, youngest, and freshest pussy has come while I was in some of my darkest and foulest moods.

I've found zero correlation between positive thinking and positive results, but that's just because I can completely ignore my own inner state and make myself do things. I understand most men cannot and therefore need to just keep repeating, "Happy thoughts, happy thoughts, happy thoughts."

Debating the effects of positive thinking wasn't really the point of the thread.

I would never suggest that a man repeats "happy thoughts happy thoughts" in his head, because that would be ineffectual.

Rather, I am suggesting that men focus on the positive experiences they have had with women, rather than turning the forum into a wailing wall or a place filled with negativity and hatred toward women, which is the current trend here.

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You said yourself that you "just accept that today's women are trash and vast swathes of society are currently collapsing."

Well, that's not really true. It's just an opinion that you've reinforced by reading too much negative shit. Confirmation bias through and through.

Humans are exactly the same as they have been for millennia, you're just choosing to see the dark side of things.

So, this thread is an attempt to balance out the scales. To remind each other that women are just women, and sometimes they can add great value to a man's life.

There is a lot of good out there. But, you have to choose to see it first.

You're just repeating more happy thoughts nonsense.

Birthrate chart:



I understand most men need happy thoughts. I prefer reality. Girls going home with random guys all the time and pissing away their sexuality? Girls spending their youth on a lousy job only to end up with cats and restaurant-tours? These aren't good things dude.

All things have a life cycle. America is on it's dying trajectory now. It's not pleasant but I accept it.

[StrikeBack]

What is that chart about, Samseau?

[Samseau]

http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archiv...qus_thread

Quote:

In a new report, the Urban Institute think tank writes that in 2012, there were only 948 births per 1,000 women in their 20s, "by far the slowest pace of any generation of young women in U.S. history." In 2007, the rate was 1,118 births per 1,000. The decline in births was largest among Hispanic women, at 26 percent, followed by black women, at 14 percent, and an 11 percent drop for white women.

[BlurredSevens]

(05-30-2015 01:17 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

You're just repeating more happy thoughts nonsense.

Well man, live and let live.

There are a lot of threads on RVF discussing the types of issues you are referencing.

This is not one of them.

So, I respectfully ask that you make a positive contribution here in the spirit of the thread, or that you refrain from posting in this thread again.

I'm happy to discuss via PM too if there is something you'd like to get off your chest.

[Samseau]

There's nothing on my chest, and I'm not here to debate about America. I thought the original point to this thread was the power of positive thinking stuff, and I just chimed in at the end to make the point that, truthfully, it does not matter how a man feels as long as he can keep the right body language, make the approach, spit the right game, etc.

But now I see you didn't want to even discuss whether or not positive thinking was necessary. My apologies, I see you just wanted positive stuff. It's not like me to miss the big bolded text on the OP, sorry about shitting in this thread.

Here are some positive experiences:

- I was dancing with this cute red-head at a club and some black guys started cheering me on, "YOU GET HER BOY! YOU GET HER!" Ended up banging her first-date no problem after some rock-climbing.

- Another time I pulled a smoking hot blonde with giant tits and a perfect ass out of the club, and the bouncers just gave me a nod of approval. I fucked up the date though, couldn't get the bang, but someday I'll get a broad just as good...

- A girl I pulled to one of my favorite bars asked me, "Do you take girls here every week?" And I replied, "No, just every other week," and I flashed a huge smile. Kept her for 9 months, great sex.

- I picked up a girl from an all-girls college called Wesley... I dropped her off there the next day after banging, and everywhere I went girls were just checking me out as I was turning heads non-stop. Man I wish I could be the only guy on an all-girls campus.

- I've had a Chinese, Korean, and Kazakhstan girl all tell me at some point during sex: "Oh my God this couldn't get any better." Apparently I have whatever it is these Asian chicks want. I think many men out there all have a target demographic that they can please - seek it out and give them your dick because trust me they want it. My Dad tells me Irish broads liked him quite a lot.

Hmm... thats it for now.

[Inter2002]

(04-29-2015 08:39 AM)swuglyfe Wrote:  

Yesterday I restarted a girl that I almost managed to bang over the summer but missed out on b/c of shitty logistics and timing. A little chit chat about this and that, then she brings up butt stuff. Aiming to smash from behind when I get back home in a week.

Also, after several months of trying on OKC (been going as long as I've learned about TRP), got my second number close, first date set up ever for next Wed. Flake probability high but I'm keeping it all in perspective.

It's only been about 5 months now. I'm cutting as hard as I can, hitting the gym every day, and feeling great seeing weight I've been carrying since I was a kid slowly but surely peacing the fuck out.

I'm tossing out an entire suitcase and box worth of shitty old baggy clothes, rolling with new tight suits, shirts, and shoes.

Thanks in no small part to the inner game I got from this forum, I stand to make around 12 grand from a super competitive summer internship I landed.

Managed to smash an 18yo on SA (detailed in that thread) that probably wouldn't have given me the time of day otherwise. I'm barely 21.

Before, I had serious race limiting beliefs because I'm Asian. While I now know that the challenges, (especially for Asians in America) are still very real (and fooling myself to think otherwise), it no longer gets me down. It makes me want to drive and work harder to reach the same point as others.

I can't wait for this summer. +1 Sevens. Amazed I hadn't repped you for the photos thread already.

It's encouraging to read what you wrote. How are you doing today with girls? The girl that you managed to smash was it a white girl?

[Inter2002]

(04-30-2015 07:26 AM)Aliblahba Wrote:  

I always remain positive, and there's been no other time in our lives that's it's imperative to do so. Be a rock of good influence others can emulate. The masses are tired, depressed, in financial strain. Men lead by example and rise to the occasion. I have broad shoulders. Bring it on! Feeling down? PM me for a personal motivator.

Nobody likes a Debby Downer. Don't be that guy. The only way to do this is to stop sweating the small stuff. Turn off the news. I woke up this morning and the sun still came up, water was still wet, and there is still a sea of vaginas to swim through. Get off the internet. SJW's, feminism, ect. only live here. They don't exist in my world. Cheer up! Now gents, go forth in the world today like it's your last day on earth. The worst they can do is kill you, and they can only kill you once. Semper Fi!

What you're saying is that there's no feminism, in your reality.

I've realized that these types of forums there's negativity, and rarely positive successful stories. We should start emanating positive emotions, change our thinking, and focus on the positive, and do everything else that Abe Hick's mentions in the books.