[FireStarter]

(10-18-2015 05:04 AM)worldtraveler3 Wrote:  

What rating would you give for the Sydney metro system or public transportation?

In Australia, only Melbourne's public transportation is better than Sydney's (or at least it used to be, been a few years since I last used public transport in either city).

Although it would have been nice to have train stations nearer to the beach, it's a short walk from Cronulla station to the beach, and Bondi Junction train station to Bondi beach is less than 3km.

[Hazaer]

(10-18-2015 07:25 AM)Rush87 Wrote:  

(10-16-2015 10:08 PM)Hazaer Wrote:  

Rather depressing reading this thread as a new guy in Aus and a complete beginner to game. Would you guys think there there would be a difference in girls in Regional Aus as compared to the CBD areas in the capital cities?

Looking at other threads, I was wondering if a state by state breakdown of the girls might be better because Aus is pretty big. For example, WA seem to have the prettiest chicks by proportion but hardest to game because of the mining while SA girls are more into settling down early and Qld ones are said to be more approachable. What do you think?

Everywhere outside the big three cities is more or less dead. Wouldn't live in SA if you paid me.

I grew up in Rural NSW: There is really zero reason to go there. Yes there are a couple of hot girls but when I say a couple I mean 1-2 per birth year.

Essentially how it works is that any hot girl is snagged up in high school by the best football player and unless she moves to the city she will settle down in the country with him.

Then how do you do game here? Through social circle?

[Que enspastic]

You need to run "hostel game" if you live in Syd/Melb/anywhere Qld. When I lived there I had a guy who used to go to school with me in the year below who managed a hostel nearby my place. Because I was cool with him, I could come in and drink with hostel guests anytime I liked and have the credibility that I was there to see a mate and not just on the pull.

I gave the internationals "access" to local house parties. They supplied the talent. The manager had me supplying the buzz. Of course it was infinitely easier than Australian girls and much more fun.

Think creatively and make it happen if you live in Oz.

[Hazaer]

(10-18-2015 07:36 AM)Que enspastic Wrote:  

You need to run "hostel game" if you live in Syd/Melb/anywhere Qld. When I lived there I had a guy who used to go to school with me in the year below who managed a hostel nearby my place. Because I was cool with him, I could come in and drink with hostel guests anytime I liked and have the credibility that I was there to see a mate and not just on the pull.

I gave the internationals "access" to local house parties. They supplied the talent. The manager had me supplying the buzz. Of course it was infinitely easier than Australian girls and much more fun.

Think creatively and make it happen if you live in Oz.

I actually was referring to Rush87 who is living in rural NSW. But you are welcome to give suggestions.

[Hazaer]

(10-18-2015 05:04 AM)worldtraveler3 Wrote:  

And I think you know see the bondi girls slightly different culturally than the inland ones.

Could you explain that more?

[Rush87]

(10-18-2015 07:29 AM)Hazaer Wrote:  

Why would you say so?

Most Australian women have developed a highly skewed idea of what 'they deserve'. This belief has stemmed from a heavily feminist media base that bombards virtually every aspect of their lives.

Most females from a 6 and up believe she deserves a 9. In fact most females sitting around a 6 in appearance believe themselves to be a nine.

What this has created is a heavy imbalance in the market. I'll use the example of the gym as it mirrors virtually everything anyone will see in the dating market.

In gyms in Australia 80% of active members are men and only 20% are women. Of that 20% less than half are what would be described as regular users I.E: 3x or more per week. Of that half a significant proportion are student visa girls from other countries.

How is this reflective of the dating market? Simple. Take any standard nightclub you go to. More than 75% of guys will be in good shape. Less than 10% of women will be. Now this was just the example of fitness but it runs true for any aspect of dating. More men are becoming more well rounded. More women are becoming overweight and one dimension and the saddest aspect is that there is currently no repercussions for these women. [Another reason why I cannot stand the 'cougar movement' I.E: Another way for women to delude themselves].

Anyway… What does this create? It creates a scenario where huge numbers of girls are getting guys well out of their league with very very little effort…

…INFACT chubby over weight girls will actually have options. The depressing fact is that many guys in the 7-8 range can still lose out on a 6, 5 and even a fucking four lol.

This is one of many problems with Australian women BUT… There are some stunning, non-feminist women that exist. Unfortunately most come from money, most have never had to even think about feminism because their life is pretty damn awesome and as a result these are Australian girls that nobody outside their social circles is ever likely to meet.

Australia however has it's high points but if women are the number one priority I would either:

A) Leave.

or

B) Work on a travelling visa social circle. There are some stunning Brazilian and Polish girls in Sydney all looking for friends, all looking for contacts and all very very easy lays.

[Rush87]

(10-18-2015 07:47 AM)Hazaer Wrote:  

I actually was referring to Rush87 who is living in rural NSW. But you are welcome to give suggestions.

I grew up in Rural Australia. I don't live there anymore. How do they game there? Pretty much get drunk, throw a girl a compliment [Or for the bolder guys say something along the lines of 'Wanna root?'] and hope for the best.

There is more or less zero game in rural Australia.

[Que enspastic]

If you grew up in inner city Sydney / Melbourne / Brisbane and end up leaving Australia (or Auckland for New Zealanders) you will find yourself very well prepared to take on the world. It's funny, we have this self-hating "cultural cringe" running through the national psyche and an extremely competitive masculine culture but take the Aussie out of that environment and they can really flourish without having to have their guard up all the time.

Expat Australians tend to dominate in other global cities : Bangkok, Tokyo, London, Berlin, New York. The dudes are already decent looking relative to the rest of the world, well educated and grew up in an egalitarian society that tells them not to kiss arse or see anyone as superior. They don't have the victim mentality of many Brits or the clueless unwarranted narcissism of many Americans. They are interested in other countries, generally very self-confident without being self-delusional. And well rounded : sharp on music (thanks Triple J), fashion, good food (& wine, cocktails, coffee), culture (an appreciation of the Arts is pronounced in the big Australian cities) and healthy lifestyles. That mix is really rare in the rest of the world for the most part.

Of course not all Australians are like that (many are embarrassing) but if you're reading this Forum you'll likely be in the elite camp. Try and get overseas if possible, even if just for a few years. Our girls by contrast are not much chop.

[DMario]

(10-18-2015 07:29 AM)Rush87 Wrote:  

I have also never seen an African American guy in Sydney in my life.

Well...I'll be in Sydney in 4 days Anyone know any non-backpacker venues in Sydney to pickup foreign girls?

[Hazaer]

(10-18-2015 08:10 AM)Rush87 Wrote:  

(10-18-2015 07:47 AM)Hazaer Wrote:  

I actually was referring to Rush87 who is living in rural NSW. But you are welcome to give suggestions.

I grew up in Rural Australia. I don't live there anymore. How do they game there? Pretty much get drunk, throw a girl a compliment [Or for the bolder guys say something along the lines of 'Wanna root?'] and hope for the best.

There is more or less zero game in rural Australia.

Ok, I will give this a try(without getting too drunk). Am in northern TAS. Have not seen any game here so far either.

[Biologist]

(10-18-2015 08:10 AM)Rush87 Wrote:  

(10-18-2015 07:47 AM)Hazaer Wrote:  

I actually was referring to Rush87 who is living in rural NSW. But you are welcome to give suggestions.

I grew up in Rural Australia. I don't live there anymore. How do they game there? Pretty much get drunk, throw a girl a compliment [Or for the bolder guys say something along the lines of 'Wanna root?'] and hope for the best.

There is more or less zero game in rural Australia.

The thing is that if you go to any venue (bar/pub) in a rural or remote area, the crowd will probably be 90%-100% men. The few women who may be there will likely be extremely busted.

The young and attractive girls pretty much universally move to the major cities because that's where the universities and office jobs are.

[Rush87]

(10-18-2015 11:27 PM)Biologist Wrote:  

(10-18-2015 08:10 AM)Rush87 Wrote:  

(10-18-2015 07:47 AM)Hazaer Wrote:  

I actually was referring to Rush87 who is living in rural NSW. But you are welcome to give suggestions.

I grew up in Rural Australia. I don't live there anymore. How do they game there? Pretty much get drunk, throw a girl a compliment [Or for the bolder guys say something along the lines of 'Wanna root?'] and hope for the best.

There is more or less zero game in rural Australia.

The thing is that if you go to any venue (bar/pub) in a rural or remote area, the crowd will probably be 90%-100% men. The few women who may be there will likely be extremely busted.

The young and attractive girls pretty much universally move to the major cities because that's where the universities and office jobs are.

More or less. There is really no reason to go to rural Australia.

[Rush87]

(10-18-2015 06:36 PM)Hazaer Wrote:  

(10-18-2015 08:10 AM)Rush87 Wrote:  

(10-18-2015 07:47 AM)Hazaer Wrote:  

I actually was referring to Rush87 who is living in rural NSW. But you are welcome to give suggestions.

I grew up in Rural Australia. I don't live there anymore. How do they game there? Pretty much get drunk, throw a girl a compliment [Or for the bolder guys say something along the lines of 'Wanna root?'] and hope for the best.

There is more or less zero game in rural Australia.

Ok, I will give this a try(without getting too drunk). Am in northern TAS. Have not seen any game here so far either.

Lol… The point was that there is basically no game. If you must be in that environment don' be like them haha. Display some game. Anything. At least you'll have a good chance to bag whatever few women are available.

[Hazaer]

(10-18-2015 11:27 PM)Biologist Wrote:  

(10-18-2015 08:10 AM)Rush87 Wrote:  

(10-18-2015 07:47 AM)Hazaer Wrote:  

I actually was referring to Rush87 who is living in rural NSW. But you are welcome to give suggestions.

I grew up in Rural Australia. I don't live there anymore. How do they game there? Pretty much get drunk, throw a girl a compliment [Or for the bolder guys say something along the lines of 'Wanna root?'] and hope for the best.

There is more or less zero game in rural Australia.

The thing is that if you go to any venue (bar/pub) in a rural or remote area, the crowd will probably be 90%-100% men. The few women who may be there will likely be extremely busted.

The young and attractive girls pretty much universally move to the major cities because that's where the universities and office jobs are.

True that.

[Hazaer]

(10-19-2015 04:46 AM)Rush87 Wrote:  

(10-18-2015 06:36 PM)Hazaer Wrote:  

(10-18-2015 08:10 AM)Rush87 Wrote:  

(10-18-2015 07:47 AM)Hazaer Wrote:  

I actually was referring to Rush87 who is living in rural NSW. But you are welcome to give suggestions.

I grew up in Rural Australia. I don't live there anymore. How do they game there? Pretty much get drunk, throw a girl a compliment [Or for the bolder guys say something along the lines of 'Wanna root?'] and hope for the best.

There is more or less zero game in rural Australia.

Ok, I will give this a try(without getting too drunk). Am in northern TAS. Have not seen any game here so far either.

Lol… The point was that there is basically no game. If you must be in that environment don' be like them haha. Display some game. Anything. At least you'll have a good chance to bag whatever few women are available.

Of course, any opportunity to practice game is a good one but it sometimes feels strange to be the only one approaching when everyone else is in social circle mode. I would say that this is also the situation in Regional Australia.

[StrikeBack]

Rush87's gym example is so true.

Just over the weekend, I was chatting briefly with a somewhat chubby 6 at the gym, as she was doing one of my favourite exercises. During the session, I noticed that she was approached by 6-7 guys, all tall and in shape, 2 being gym instructors. At the end of the session, she was talking about wanting to travel, as she doesn't want to be stuck in Australia forever. My very first thought was "honey, you will never again find such a penis paradise on earth where you have so many high value guys giving you attention within 1 hour".

[EatMee]

(10-19-2015 06:16 PM)StrikeBack Wrote:  

Rush87's gym example is so true.

Just over the weekend, I was chatting briefly with a somewhat chubby 6 at the gym, as she was doing one of my favourite exercises. During the session, I noticed that she was approached by 6-7 guys, all tall and in shape, 2 being gym instructors. At the end of the session, she was talking about wanting to travel, as she doesn't want to be stuck in Australia forever. My very first thought was "honey, you will never again find such a penis paradise on earth where you have so many high value guys giving you attention within 1 hour".

Isn't Australia just awesome LOL.

[Travesty]

(10-19-2015 06:16 PM)StrikeBack Wrote:  

Rush87's gym example is so true.

Just over the weekend, I was chatting briefly with a somewhat chubby 6 at the gym, as she was doing one of my favourite exercises. During the session, I noticed that she was approached by 6-7 guys, all tall and in shape, 2 being gym instructors. At the end of the session, she was talking about wanting to travel, as she doesn't want to be stuck in Australia forever. My very first thought was "honey, you will never again find such a penis paradise on earth where you have so many high value guys giving you attention within 1 hour".

That's fucking sickening and this is coming from an American. The devil lives in the dirt of that island.

[salacious]

This post is depressing, I rarely game in Australia but always found it challenging, and wondered why even in Aus I always ended up with asians or other foreigners despite them not necessarily being a preference. kind of glad to hear that I'm not the only one struggling to pull a decent Aussie chick but you all make it seem like doom and gloom, I refuse to believe its that hard out there which makes me more committed to achieve success next time I go back home.

[Green-On-GO]

Again depends where you live.Sydney has heeps of women..Funny how most chicks I know there married English guys...just go toward the beaches
Melbourne is tough since my divorce 2 years ago I don't think I've been with one Melbourne girl.
Online is massive and I'm not online.
The 90 ,10 rule here .I know one guy out of 54 that is constantly dating .He looks like Goslyng.We went out last month talking to this fat chick and her gay friend.Anyway I split off to game this other bird.My mate decides to go home.10 minutes after he left the fat chick taps me on the shoulder and says my friend is a bit slow and clueless???He could of had me she says..

Now my mates is at least a 8 or nine this chick is 5..But thats the bullshit women like this kid themselves with..She was a nice woman but deluded.

No use complaining though you just got to move whether thats closer to the beach a new town or country.

Yanks complain but after 2 weeks in the USA I don't know what they are on about.The abundance over in the the US of decent women blew my mind..Go there...you still need game and it's so much fun.

[Lucario]

(10-19-2015 06:16 PM)StrikeBack Wrote:  

Rush87's gym example is so true.

Just over the weekend, I was chatting briefly with a somewhat chubby 6 at the gym, as she was doing one of my favourite exercises. During the session, I noticed that she was approached by 6-7 guys, all tall and in shape, 2 being gym instructors. At the end of the session, she was talking about wanting to travel, as she doesn't want to be stuck in Australia forever. My very first thought was "honey, you will never again find such a penis paradise on earth where you have so many high value guys giving you attention within 1 hour".

Gym instructors prob wanted to just get her to pay them for PT sessions so she can lose weight haha

[StrikeBack]

Don´t think so, she is a little chubby but does know what sheś doing with the exercises. Clearly sheś been trained by someone decent. Sheś one of those girls whoś likely partied too hard and put on a couple of kgs, now wants to lose them for the upcoming summer.

This is Melbourne by the way, one of the toughest places in Australia and the world...

Like Green-On-Go, I can legitimately say that America has it easier than us. I scored right away on my very first night there after 23 hours of flying and still severely jetlagged. Was coming off a dry spell in Australia at the time.

[Adrenaline]

Australians will find it easier in the US and Americans will find it easier in Australia. It all comes down to the accent. Don't forget Australia only has 20 million people compared to hundreds of millions of people so there are far more girls and thus far more opportunities in the US. Never the less, pound for pound, both sets of girls are as bad as each other.

[Hazaer]

(10-20-2015 03:08 AM)Green-On-GO Wrote:  

Again depends where you live.Sydney has heeps of women..Funny how most chicks I know there married English guys...just go toward the beaches
Melbourne is tough since my divorce 2 years ago I don't think I've been with one Melbourne girl.
Online is massive and I'm not online.
The 90 ,10 rule here .I know one guy out of 54 that is constantly dating .He looks like Goslyng.We went out last month talking to this fat chick and her gay friend.Anyway I split off to game this other bird.My mate decides to go home.10 minutes after he left the fat chick taps me on the shoulder and says my friend is a bit slow and clueless???He could of had me she says..

Now my mates is at least a 8 or nine this chick is 5..But thats the bullshit women like this kid themselves with..She was a nice woman but deluded.

No use complaining though you just got to move whether thats closer to the beach a new town or country.

Yanks complain but after 2 weeks in the USA I don't know what they are on about.The abundance over in the the US of decent women blew my mind..Go there...you still need game and it's so much fun.

Out of curiosity, how would you compare your experience with girls in the UK as compared to the US and Aus? Are they more approachable and fun as what some ppl in the forum have stated?

[Hazaer]

(10-20-2015 08:49 AM)StrikeBack Wrote:  

Don´t think so, she is a little chubby but does know what sheś doing with the exercises. Clearly sheś been trained by someone decent. Sheś one of those girls whoś likely partied too hard and put on a couple of kgs, now wants to lose them for the upcoming summer.

This is Melbourne by the way, one of the toughest places in Australia and the world...

Like Green-On-Go, I can legitimately say that America has it easier than us. I scored right away on my very first night there after 23 hours of flying and still severely jetlagged. Was coming off a dry spell in Australia at the time.

Which part of america did you go to?