[San Luis]

I believe more emphasis needs to be put into the differences between regions in Latin America.

Just from personal experience, Venezuelan / Colombian women seem to be in a category of their own. I found them to be more materialistic, social climber types than other regions. Peru and Mexico on the other hand seem to have more down to earth, ride or die types.

The problem is Venezuela / Colombian women are on average more beautiful, but more difficult to screen for a gem. Peru / Mexico may lose a point or two on the average beauty scale, but personality wise, one could find more "normal" girls there, per capita. I'd be more confident in bringing a girl back to the West from the latter group, than the former.

For wife hunting, one should perhaps lean towards the personality scale at the cost of looks, but there really is no simple answer.

Would appreciate it if others would share their insight.

[San Luis]

(11-28-2018 08:53 PM)Jozi Wrote:  

(11-28-2018 07:29 PM)Tully Mars Wrote:  

The majority of these men don't live in Colombia anymore....t

I have lived overseas for the last 6 years of my life. In Asia, South America, Africa, North America and Europe. I have tried making it work in non-Western countries, but I just can't. The better quality women just do not make up for the considerable downgrade in all other aspects of life. Sure, I'd probably rather live in Colombia than say Denmark or California (who both have absolutely horrendous women), but there are middle grounds to be found (I think).

There are countries out there that may provide that "middle ground" but in general I am less pessimistic about bringing a foreign wife back to your home country / The West. There are no guarantees obviously, but it can be done.

Countries like Colombia or most of Latin America are 3rd world and that is where arbitrage with women comes into play. To live there and enjoy their women as a single man may be great, but to live there and raise a family whilst maintaining loyalty to your wife effectively removes one of the principal reasons to be there in the first place: the women. That is if you plan to be loyal.

Add to that the downgrade in lifestyle in the 3rd world, and one would have to consider whether it's a good deal or not. I believe finding a gem and making it work in the 1st world is still the best option out there, not only for you but also your children. More effort perhaps, but that is what it takes.

[LowerCaseG]

Guys, this forum is great for a lot of things. How to have a meaningful and fulfilling long term relationship is not one of them. Certainly the anecdotes shed some light, but refusing to import said Colombiana back to the west, is not a realistic nor appealing option for many men considering you would a) be at least a psuedo absentee father, and b) most men would be sacrificing economically to relocate out of the west.

Happy hunting

[Jozi]

(11-28-2018 10:02 PM)San Luis Wrote:  

Countries like Colombia or most of Latin America are 3rd world and that is where arbitrage with women comes into play. To live there and enjoy their women as a single man may be great, but to live there and raise a family whilst maintaining loyalty to your wife effectively removes one of the principal reasons to be there in the first place: the women. That is if you plan to be loyal.

Exactly. What are you going to do after you have gotten married in a country that all it offers are attractive women?

If importing them back to the West, I believe settling in a small town or on a rural farm or property could potentially work. Away from the city and all of its corruptions. Would be ideal if there was another latina or two in the vicinity that she could get to know and become friends with. Women struggle more than men with not having any cultural ties long term. I believe it might be essential actually, unless she is a total loner and does not mind living in the sticks and never interacting with anyone else. But I'd imagine those are rare, especially in Latin America.

[San Luis]

(11-28-2018 10:29 PM)Jozi Wrote:  

Exactly. What are you going to do after you have gotten married in a country that all it offers are attractive women?

If importing them back to the West, I believe settling in a small town or on a rural farm or property could potentially work. Away from the city and all of its corruptions. Would be ideal if there was another latina or two in the vicinity that she could get to know and become friends with. Women struggle more than men with not having any cultural ties long term. I believe it might be essential actually, unless she is a total loner and does not mind living in the sticks and never interacting with anyone else. But I'd imagine those are rare, especially in Latin America.

Yes that could work but I believe you are being overly pessimistic. I would much rather be living in the 3rd world than some rural farm in the 1st world, personally speaking.

If you decide to marry then you'd most likely have kids. That would help in keeping your wife occupied physically and emotionally, and she'd be less inclined to be led astray. Latina women, and most women for that matter do love their children and family, and would not deliberately commit themselves to sabotage it. That is, if you are willing to commit your part of the equation and give her the love, time, resources and loyalty required to maintain a stable family. One would be wise to screen thoroughly and that itself would multiply your chances of success.

Yet returning to the key question of this thread, I believe personality wise, Colombians and Venezuelans perhaps may not be the cream of the crop in terms of personality when opting to marry a Latina. Their values are a little different in my experience even compared to close neighbors like Ecuador and Peru. Subconsciously, I feel like they view a man / woman relationship as some sort of transaction - "My beauty" for "Your resources".

Though that may be true in the grand scheme of things male to female, I would prefer a more innocent or "pure" mindset from a woman I see as marriage material. 2nd tier/3rd tier cities in Colombia and Venezuela may offer better options though.