[iknowexactly]

(03-16-2015 10:29 PM)Atticus Wrote:  

iknowexactly wrote: "All blacks HAVEN'T been tarred with the same brush unless you let that happen in your mind".

I certainly didn't mean to covey the impression that all blacks have been tarred with the same brush in my mind. I was simply engaging with Roosh's proposition that such behavior will lead to a backlash against minorities, whether rightly or wrongly.

I don't mean to be accusatory. I'm just speaking in the general sense.

[Beyond Borders]

Well, I'll be damned but this "news article" actually mentions colors. http://fox59.com/2015/03/15/woman-caught...d-a-child/

But take a second and look at what they did here:

Quote:

In the video, a girl wearing black is pulled to the ground by a girl in white. The girl in white repeatedly kicks, punches and even smashes the other girl’s head with her foot.

Am I imagining things or does it seem like they are not only avoiding mention of race but trying to give a subconscious impression the races were reversed? In any case it's interesting that the color of their sweaters are important but not the color of their skin.

Unless I'm being paranoid here, this is the most despicable reporting I've ever seen in a country where despicable reporting has become the norm.

[Avid]

I'm tired of the framing of post titles in this forum. When a dude gets shot in furgeson, it's 'something something weave shop..looting something n***ers.' When it's a white girl getting bullied, it's 'young girl and little brother beaten' implying that they are helpless and innocent. But tamir rice 'looks old for 12 years old.' What a fucking joke. People in this forum don't give a shit about justice or fairness, they are just as tribal as the minorities they set out to typecast. But OP won't be suspended or banned since he's pandering to the majority demographic of the forum. Successful race baiter is successful.

[TigerMandingo]

(03-16-2015 11:43 PM)Avid Wrote:  

I'm tired of the framing of post titles in this forum. When a dude gets shot in furgeson, it's 'something something weave shop..looting something n***ers.' When it's a white girl getting bullied, it's 'young girl and little brother beaten' implying that they are helpless and innocent. But tamir rice 'looks old for 12 years old.' What a fucking joke. People in this forum don't give a shit about justice or fairness, they are just as tribal as the minorities they set out to typecast. But OP won't be suspended or banned since he's pandering to the majority demographic of the forum. Successful race baiter is successful.

[Beyond Borders]

(03-16-2015 11:43 PM)Avid Wrote:  

When it's a white girl getting bullied, it's 'young girl and little brother beaten' implying that they are helpless and innocent.

We've got an independent thinker in our midst.

[Patriarch]

A 6-year-old boy IS helpless and innocent. This isn't some grainy police video where the kid may or may not have had a gun, or the older sister was tossing out racial slurs with reckless abandon.

[Medic42]

(03-16-2015 11:43 PM)Avid Wrote:  

But OP won't be suspended or banned since he's pandering to the majority demographic of the forum. Successful race baiter is successful.

I'm going to take a stab at this in case you're not just trolling or having a meltdown. I think when you look at posts about subjects like Ferguson you're seeing the result of the racial backlash that Roosh was talking about. When viewed through conservative white eyes Michael Brown was just another dumb thug that paid for his shitty choices with his life. The behavior of members of the black community following his death confirmed many people's view that black ghetto people are subhuman trash. You can argue that they're not or that most of the protestors were peaceful but the reality is that the one's behaving badly were practically a KKK recruitment ad.

Is racism in America real, absolutely I've worked for a city that had a black mayor before and it still wasn't uncommon for me to hear coworkers refer to black patients as niggers, porch monkeys, guilties, reggins, Mondays, etc. The truth is the person I heard it the most from was black, and he hated the urban blacks that lived in our city more than anyone I'd ever met. Are black Americans frustration that this is something they have to deal with regularly justified, sure. Is their frustration that often times white Americans downplay this experience justified, sure. Is that a justification for the rampant violence, looting, and general asshattery that you see in black communities after something like the Michael Brown shooting, no it's not.

The frustration that many white Americans feel when they see whites prosecuted for hate crimes against blacks but blacks not similarly punished for crimes against whites is real and frankly justified. Are white posters sarcastic internet forum posts or thread titles justified. Sure they are, they're being nonviolent and in our culture we're supposed to value the free expression of ideas and opinions.

My opinion of black American's, particularly urban black American's, future is that it will be bleak unfortunately. Their motivation to succeed is crippled by entitlement programs and the welfare state. They ridicule the blacks from their neighborhoods who try to better themselves through education and hard work. Hispanic immigrants are going to displace them from the low skill jobs that they presently occupy and they are going to be further dependent on the state for support. They have the highest rate of unwed/single mothers in our country and their boys and girls are going to be worse off in the long run due to the disintegration of the nuclear family in their communities.

[Pontifex Maximus]

(03-16-2015 11:43 PM)Avid Wrote:  

I'm tired of the framing of post titles in this forum. When a dude gets shot in furgeson, it's 'something something weave shop..looting something n***ers.' When it's a white girl getting bullied, it's 'young girl and little brother beaten' implying that they are helpless and innocent. But tamir rice 'looks old for 12 years old.' What a fucking joke. People in this forum don't give a shit about justice or fairness, they are just as tribal as the minorities they set out to typecast. But OP won't be suspended or banned since he's pandering to the majority demographic of the forum. Successful race baiter is successful.

Michael Brown was 6 '4" and 210 lb. and he casually flung the the store owner into the chip rack. He was a BIG BOY. He was 18 year old grown man, yet the liberal media portrays him as an innocent dainty twinkle fairy, who must have caught a round while out catching glittery butterflies. His encounter occurred in midst of him committing a crime.

The boy in the video was 5 or 6, the sister probably didn't weight more than 80 lb. They were surrounded and assaulted by at least 7 people who were at least 14 years old. The girl was beaten for being a "white bitch" and apologized for her own beating. She walked away calmly holding her brothers hand. Brown ran like a coward.

Whatever you're smoking probably isn't good for you.

[Cr33pin]

(03-16-2015 11:43 PM)Avid Wrote:  

I'm tired of the framing of post titles in this forum. When a dude gets shot in furgeson, it's 'something something weave shop..looting something n***ers.' When it's a white girl getting bullied, it's 'young girl and little brother beaten' implying that they are helpless and innocent. But tamir rice 'looks old for 12 years old.' What a fucking joke. People in this forum don't give a shit about justice or fairness, they are just as tribal as the minorities they set out to typecast. But OP won't be suspended or banned since he's pandering to the majority demographic of the forum. Successful race baiter is successful

Bruh I just copied the headline from one of the news articles... straight copy and paste. You think I should be banned for using a title that clearly states what the thread is about?

Before you get banned please tell me what I should have used as a title?

[Tuthmosis]

(03-16-2015 11:43 PM)Avid Wrote:  

I'm tired of the framing of post titles in this forum. When a dude gets shot in furgeson, it's 'something something weave shop..looting something n***ers.' When it's a white girl getting bullied, it's 'young girl and little brother beaten' implying that they are helpless and innocent. But tamir rice 'looks old for 12 years old.' What a fucking joke. People in this forum don't give a shit about justice or fairness, they are just as tribal as the minorities they set out to typecast. But OP won't be suspended or banned since he's pandering to the majority demographic of the forum. Successful race baiter is successful.

[Windom Earle]

Banned member really was acting like the mirror image of her name.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

I would not even say that the crime is extremely motivated racially since the family's father looks like this:



Also the young boy who defended his big sister is clearly bi-racial. He seems to be the real father of the child and the stepdad to the girl who was attacked.

Also GotNews published the identity of the girl who filmed the shit:

http://gotnews.com/breaking-exclusive-we...e-brother/

It's clear that she was proud of it:



Clearly the girl and professional slut got way too much moxy just like many young women do:

I blame the men also to a good degree for not stepping in quicker. "Whose bitch this is?" is a legit question that any man should ask himself.

Such attacks happen by black on black girls, so I would not overstress the racial angle too much. The black woman raised by single mothers in the US is of much more importance.

We have to keep in mind that the elite prefers us to be divided - women against men, black against white - divide and conquer is their motto. Racial diversity probably would not be so bad if most were raised by stable parents and had decent jobs and education. Why was there no problem with black US women in the 1950s when most black households had fathers at home?

It's sad really. I see no option but to move - no wonder that the black middle class is either moving away from those areas or are starting to homeschool their kids. They know that there is something very wrong with the underclass there and they have the same reasons British parents have for moving away from entire streets populated by single mother households. Feral kids will be feral kids.

[Sp5]

I agree with Lizard of Oz - it used to be you'd get regularly beat down just for walking into another neighborhood, no matter what the race was. Me going to swim at the Y, deliver newspapers with a long afternoon route, or go to middle school was always like running some gantlet where I'd have to get my ass beat because it was 5 against one. I'd take detours just to avoid corners where particular assholes always hung out.

We just didn't have video in those days to provoke worldwide public outrage about these unprovoked attacks and frame them inside of some big theme like race.

(03-16-2015 08:54 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

When white Americans wake up from their multicultural slumber and self-hate, the backlash against minorities and immigrants will be severe. How can there be any other result?

The demographics and economics point against it. First, immigrants are overwhelmingly hard-working and law-abiding. There are lots of places in the USA which are kept alive by immigrant communities. This incident had nothing to do with immigration - the perpetrator was the descendant of black slaves brought to America before 1809.

Second, immigrants will change what the black population in America is and how it is perceived. Already, West Indians and recent immigrants from Africa have overwhelmed the descendants of former slaves in a lot of cities, and they mostly loathe ghetto culture. There's some West African word African immigrants use for the historic American black population - I can't remember it, but it means "slave" in Yoruba or some other language. The epithet from the other side is "coconut" - brown on the outside, white on the inside.

The Asian and other immigrants that will continue to flow in will also reduce the proportion of ghetto society in America.

The descendents of former slaves are also changing as a group, with many moving up in American society. The ghetto residue that this girl is a member of will become smaller and more isolated, with some moving up, others marrying out, and others being Darwin'ed out by death or prison.

Consider the portrayal of 1860s America in the movie Gangs of New York as an historical example of the kind of demographic change which is always happening, now on a bigger scale. That movie shows a lot of social pathology among immigrants, (thievery, prostitution, corruption) and intercommunal violence (Bill the Butcher, the Dead Rabbits).

You can take consolation in the fact that in 10 years this girl will be like her sister, fat, poor and miserable - but sedated. From what I saw in the courts, girls like this burn out quickly and then either straighten out or spend their lives whoring or trying to stay on welfare - which is not a great life. The most troubling thing is that she might be a mother soon.

Now that she's advertised herself in all of her glory, the system will come down on her. From where I was from, she'd almost certainly be committed to juvenile detention. Now, that does not work all of the time, but there are very few violent female offenders, and almost none older that 25.

[philosophical_recovery]

This is a result of subsidizing bad female decision making for generations. It was predicted by those who didn't have the wool over their eyes and didn't drink the koolaid.

There are hardly any male school teachers left. The last time I looked it up, over 85% of primary school teachers were females. These girls don't have father figures. Instead of having a man, they have a beauracracy of faceless women that try to min/max the strings they can pull using other people's money to keep the pot from boiling over.

Manufacture a bunch of dependents, and this is what you get. At least people are waking up. They're still trying to get it happen to mainstream america: get all your goodies from Big Mother. Don't rely on a man or the patriarchy, they hate women. This is the despondency of Fight Club, writ large.

[Veloce]

(03-16-2015 11:43 PM)Avid Wrote:  

I'm tired of the framing of post titles in this forum.

[Gopnik]

(03-16-2015 05:54 PM)Lika Wrote:  

Something tells me the little boy will become a little bit racist...

The little kid is actually of mixed race, his dad is the black man on the other videos.

http://www.theindychannel.com/news/local...-on-camera

[Medic42]

While I don't know that the attack was racially motivated, saying that it was not because the victim was half black doesn't make sense to me. That's the rough equivalent of saying that Klan members are cool with Obama because he's half white.

[speakeasy]

(03-16-2015 05:54 PM)Lika Wrote:  

Something tells me the little boy will become a little bit racist...

That's a lot to assume. For all you know the kid's best friend in school could be black. Growing up I got fucked with by Mexicans gangs, but I also had cool Mexicans I was down with. Just because you have a bad experience with someone of a different race doesn't mean that one experience defines your entire relationship with people of that race.

[Mr West]

And then racially motivated ideologues in the american black community have the nerve to criticize Kendrick Lamar's views on the black community:

[speakeasy]

(03-16-2015 06:58 PM)Cunnilinguist Wrote:  

(03-16-2015 05:22 PM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:  

There is a simple reason for why all these beatdown videos, in particular the racial ones, are going viral. The reason is that American society as a whole is becoming ever softer and more peaceful. The great majority of people never see violence of any kind in their day to day lives, it is extremely remote from them; this is increasingly the case even in less wealthy neighborhoods, with some exceptions here and there. As a result, people find the kind of casual violence they see in these videos shocking and fascinating and they don't know what to make of it.

You forgot to mention that the peace is artificial and highly fragile because America is well- segregated. Whites and blacks may cross paths at work but they go to bed in different zip codes. I would guess that racial violence would increase tenfold if you remove that barrier.

Yes, but you have to realize something. Whites are actually let off pretty easy when it comes to crime. 95% of this shit is against other blacks but you don't hear about it. When a crime is interracial, it gets way more hype in the media. And that goes in both directions. If Trayvon Martin was shot by a black guy, nobody would even know who he is. If Michael Brown was shot by a black cop, that would've been just a local story if even that. What happened to this white girl in the video, you can go on worldstar and see endless videos like that, mostly ghetto black girls fighting each other. None of these will ever make it on the news because nobody gives a shit unless it crosses the racial barrier. I'll bet you anything that this black girl has done the same shit to other black girls, but the media wouldn't care to report it because nobody is interested.

[Low Status Beta]

Watching this video reminds me of that part of 'Fight Club' when the members are given an assignment to pick fights with random people in public, because the narrator explains society has become too non confrontational. And when you get struck in the face, you no longer worry/fixate about stuff that happened (in the past), or have anxiety about future events, fighting brings you back to the present moment.

Back to the video, I was surprised how agile and quick the girls strikes were, almost like a professional fighter. You hear about convenience food, prescription drugs (which most Welfare/Section 8 kids are on), fluoride in the water and all this modern stuff makings kids slow and lazy.

[Fortis]

(03-17-2015 12:34 PM)Medic42 Wrote:  

While I don't know that the attack was racially motivated, saying that it was not because the victim was half black doesn't make sense to me. That's the rough equivalent of saying that Klan members are cool with Obama because he's half white.

Honestly, I don't think it was racially motivated. I think they were just looking for a victim and few things scream victim more than a girl and her baby sibling. This is a lot like the knockout game to me. Lots of white people are very oblivious to their surroundings and often make for great victims. A common insult I would hear black people throw around was, "you look like a scared, lost white boy."

At that point, you can make the case that they're targeting people who are of a certain race because they're better victims, but I don't think that it necessarily means that they wouldn't have gone after this girl and her brother if they were all dark.

[komatiite]

Guh. I feel like a fuck for watching that. Poor kids. Wish I was there to help.

[Medic42]

(03-17-2015 04:41 PM)Fortis Wrote:  

Honestly, I don't think it was racially motivated. I think they were just looking for a victim and few things scream victim more than a girl and her baby sibling. This is a lot like the knockout game to me. Lots of white people are very oblivious to their surroundings and often make for great victims. A common insult I would hear black people throw around was, "you look like a scared, lost white boy."

At that point, you can make the case that they're targeting people who are of a certain race because they're better victims, but I don't think that it necessarily means that they wouldn't have gone after this girl and her brother if they were all dark.

You're certainly entitled to your opinion and for all I know it may be true. That said there is definitely an undercurrent of resentment in the urban black community for both whites and light skinned black or mixed race blacks. I think it's a definite possibility that race was a factor in the attackers motivation however, I doubt she'd be stupid enough to say it.

As to white people making better victims I suppose it depends on their background. Personally I think I make a bad one; I've spent a lot of time in the hood and have reasonable situational awareness. I do think a lot of suburban whites are intimidated by urban blacks partly because they're insulated from real violence and don't know how to respond to aggression. I'm a half redneck from the sticks and the way we respond is with violence of our own and we're frequently armed.

[Fortis]

^ I say this as a light-skinned black man who has lived in a predominantly black and crime-ridden city for the past 6 years. I could go into my stories of being bullied and trolled for my fair(er) skin and ability to speak properly, but that isn't what this thread is about.

But I seriously doubt that girl got beaten strictly because she's white and they're jealous. I get the feeling that the attacker has done the same thing to other black chicks based on the video. I doubt she just got some blood lust over seeing a white girl. You can make that case, I guess, but it seems a bit flimsy to me. It strikes me as a case of unrestrained savagery looking for an outlet that happened to be white this time.

And yes, Medic, I meant northern suburban whites, not southern types who are often a bit rougher than their northern counterparts.