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(03-16-2015 05:22 PM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:  

There is a simple reason for why all these beatdown videos, in particular the racial ones, are going viral. The reason is that American society as a whole is becoming ever softer and more peaceful. The great majority of people never see violence of any kind in their day to day lives, it is extremely remote from them; this is increasingly the case even in less wealthy neighborhoods, with some exceptions here and there. As a result, people find the kind of casual violence they see in these videos shocking and fascinating and they don't know what to make of it.

That's true. Now that I think of it, I can remember my high school years where random students were getting beat up like that for no good reasons. People were getting socked in the face and losing teeth regularly, and every time there was a fight people gathered around just like we see on Youtube. I remember there were 2 retard groups and we were always fighting with them for no reason. Girls weren't as violent though back in the day.

[Medic42]

As a result of my line of work I have had the unique displeasure of interacting with black, white, Hispanic, and Vietnamese ghetto trash; they are little different in attitudes or behaviors I'm afraid.

[Kingsley Davis]

[Fortis]

(03-16-2015 08:18 PM)Medic42 Wrote:  

As a result of my line of work I have had the unique displeasure of interacting with black, white, Hispanic, and Vietnamese ghetto trash; they are little different in attitudes or behaviors I'm afraid.

That's what I'm saying. They're united by a unique gangsta culture that prizes stealing, shooting and "honor" killings over normal family values. It's fucking crazy.

[Roosh]

When white Americans wake up from their multicultural slumber and self-hate, the backlash against minorities and immigrants will be severe. How can there be any other result?

[Medic42]

(03-16-2015 08:54 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

When white Americans wake up from their multicultural slumber and self-hate, the backlash against minorities and immigrants will be severe. How can there be any other result?

I think it's already begun in some ways. When you look at the increased legislation allowing concealed carry and stand your ground laws. It's white/middle class society telling ghetto trash they wont simply accept being victims. You decide on a life of crime in Florida or Texas and it has a pretty good chance of ending with a homeowner putting holes in you.

[Atticus]

(03-16-2015 08:54 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

When white Americans wake up from their multicultural slumber and self-hate, the backlash against minorities and immigrants will be severe. How can there be any other result?

I would like to agree, but I fear that the future is more likely to end up being something akin to the dystopian nightmare envisaged in "Idiocracy". It's a shame all blacks have been tarred with the same brush. However, I believe it's a cultural issue rather than strictly racial one. One of the men I know and admire most is black. Then again, he's also committed Christian and self made millionaire. It's the cultural Marxists who brought us to this point.

[Fortis]

(03-16-2015 08:54 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

When white Americans wake up from their multicultural slumber and self-hate, the backlash against minorities and immigrants will be severe. How can there be any other result?

Yes and no. I actually think it'll be biggest against the poor.

[CactusCat589]

To me, this is a more a female-female dynamic than it has anything to do with race. The envy that the random white girl is going to be more attractive if she isn't already, and it's only going to get worse as they get older.

[Pontifex Maximus]

(03-16-2015 08:42 PM)Kingsley Davis Wrote:  

Tommy Sotomayor is the anti-Al Sharpton, he always brings rationale into these events without any racial bias.

What was heartbreaking about the video was that the victim ran away while saying "I'm sorry." What kind of world do we live in where an assault victim apologizes for being beaten?

[tomtud]

This kinda shit is unheard of in other countries.

The usa has a big problem w a section of their population. We all know that. Question is what will be done about it?
The welfare state/ entitlements is one issue. Yet social security for those who paid into it is running out of money, yet the welfare system never runs out. An economic revolution will happen and the idiots will come home to roost

I just read some articles on Yahoo news, not on the main page. Said she was arrested on another charge. Said nothing about race. It's no wonder I don't bother with CNNwhen they cover racial incidents to incite further. Now i read articles and if they omit the names or race i call it BS.

[iknowexactly]

(03-16-2015 09:07 PM)Atticus Wrote:  

(03-16-2015 08:54 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

When white Americans wake up from their multicultural slumber and self-hate, the backlash against minorities and immigrants will be severe. How can there be any other result?

I would like to agree, but I fear that the future is more likely to end up being something akin to the dystopian nightmare envisaged in "Idiocracy". It's a shame all blacks have been tarred with the same brush. However, I believe it's a cultural issue rather than strictly racial one. One of the men I know and admire most is black. Then again, he's also committed Christian and self made millionaire. It's the cultural Marxists who brought us to this point.

We already had our race war, but it wasn't between blacks and whites-- blacks were virtually powerless at the time it happened, and it was a proxy war fought between the what could be called the liberals and conservatives of the time, was called the Civil War, and the "liberals" won. ( What was "liberal" in Civil War times was probably like a serious survivalist libertarian now...)

I disagree there will be a race war in the USA, I worked with the most violent, most psychologically fucked up Black ( and White people in prison) and while some of the Black guys hated me , I honestly felt they didn't hate me because I was white, it was because I worked for the prison lol. They were equally opportunity haters. People in America are smart in some ways, and one precious way is that they are enlightened enough to realize that race/religion/ethnic hate doesn't lead to anything good. And it certainly is bad for business, which is really the religion of America.

I also was fairly friendly with the guards, and there were some retrograde cats that gave off vibes of hatred, but most of these redneck, hunter, pickup driving white dudes were as kind to those black prisoners as social workers. Yes there are failures, but there is a great tradition in America, that a lot of people suffered for as far back as the civil war. This was my extensive experience in a place where race hate had every chance to fester-- in prison. The more negative prisoners enforce racism amongst themselves, but even most of the prisoners don't like it, and when asked in yearly case conferences if they would cell up with other races almost all ( out of dozens I listened to) said "Anyone." Some even added things to assert they were open-minded, like "I don't have anything against anyone."

And these are rapists and murderers!! And they STILL hold an ideal of racial harmony!.

In the prison, the scariest, most hateful characters, the ones who engaged in torture killings of other prisoners-- were the Aryan Brotherhood. They were reptilian in their coldness. The Black guys, when they weren't amped up about something, were more sympathetic and seemed more human to me.

There's no perfect society, and probably will never be one. The (very liberal) musician Bono talked about he envied American because Ireland had never had a figure with a transcending philiosophy of reconciliation and compassion like the (very liberal) MLK. As a member of a minority which was definitely oppressed at the time, he still advocated both physical and internal non-violence.
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King’s notion of nonviolence had six key principles. First, one can resist evil without resorting to violence. Second, nonviolence seeks to win the ‘‘friendship and understanding’’ of the opponent, not to humiliate him (King, Stride, 84). Third, evil itself, not the people committing evil acts, should be opposed. Fourth, those committed to nonviolence must be willing to suffer without retaliation as suffering itself can be redemptive. Fifth, nonviolent resistance avoids ‘‘external physical violence’’ and ‘‘internal violence of spirit’’ as well ‘‘The nonviolent resister not only refuses to shoot his opponent but he also refuses to hate him’’ (King, Stride, 85).[size=small]

All blacks HAVEN'T been tarred with the same brush unless you let that happen in your mind. Historically they get in more trouble, but that doesn't mean any given black person you meet is most likely violent. Any given car mechanic might lie to you about the status of your car needs to, but they're here and you need to deal with them to some extent.

King, thankfully for us, taught Blacks to not be vengeful for the times they were mistreated, and other people can learn from this wise message.

What is the alternative? Endless millennia of mutual hatred, the Arabs and the Jews, the Sunnis and the Shias, Gentiles and Jews.....

How can you seriously want that instead of a rule of law where each is innocent until proven guilty. ?

You can make a life decision to avoid almost all Black people and move to Idaho if that's what you want. The interesting question is-- IS that what you want? Talk about guns, farming and high school football all day? Sign me up.

Or one can, I guess, get one's guns and ammo, or better yet arrows and smelting materials to make arrowheads, and go off by yourself and live alone and never talk to another person. Or do that and bring a woman to breed a new race.

Or go somewhere where people hardly ever go to or leave. I've read that some parts of Switzerland are so insular that you can go there and even after your family has lived there for generations you are still called the "new people." I can't wait, a life centered around chocolate, grazing and cuckoo clocks.

These places are by their nature places where things don't change much. Psychopaths still probably exist if their families are strong enough to defend them based on power, and want to.

These places sound horribly boring.

Collective punishment is inevitably what bigotry leads to, and it has been and always will tend to lead to unspeakable horror.


Race, religion, and totilitarian communism have been utilized by major assholes to turn otherwise normal people of all kinds against each other, and thus consolidate power for themselves. This has failed in the most horrible ways, due to one inescapable moral fact:

Once you start engaging in brutal collective punishment, you are part of the problem. Whatever you claim you were fighting for, you no longer are one of the righteous. No matter how adamant, angry, and sure of yourself you are.

America's overall success* is due to specifially attempting rejection of this thinking. We could have nuked Mecca, leveled any city from which a hijacker came, and we did cause many civilian deaths in what could be argued was collective punishment, but it never reached the extent it could have since WW2, with the use of firebombing/nukes.

The very nature of our existence, sexual reproduction has worked for hundreds of millions of years because a single organism cannot adequately optimize itself for all conditions and will necessarily die out if it is complex. ( For all very complex creatures.)

You need new input into your gene line, societies need new input into their culture-- to some degree. Now at the pragmatic level, I am not advocating unlimited immigration, in fact I am quite conservative on this and think USA should have a pretty vicious point system.

There's something wrong with EVERY ethnic group-- even take some super clean-living ones like the Mormons-- well, maybe they're unlikely to trust YOU and will always give their business to another Mormon ( IDK if this is really true.)

LOW-TRUST societies-- poor, shitty places to live like Iraq, India-- take the backwards, over simplistic approach of overgeneralizing the "other" to the point of marrying within their clan because "those people" are always suspect.

Efficient, wealthy countries are that way in my view, because there is a basis of trust between citizens. They mechanic won't sabotage your car to make more money, the doctor doesn't inject you with strep to get some more business.

Fairness and Justice doesn't mean you let assholes like this girl get away with violence. It also doesn't mean you don't persecute some other poor bastard who did nothing wrong because he's Black or Arab.


* if you're in the USA, you voted with your feet which speaks louder than words. I'm out because of the sexual desert quality here.

[Fortis]

^^This is so retarded that I can't even process it. I watched the entire video. Holy shit. Where the fuck are her parents?

IKE, great points, man.

[CactusCat589]

The father is miles out of fucking Dodge, that's for sure. No self-respecting man is going to let his daughters twerk on each other. Disgusting.

[Windom Earle]

(03-16-2015 06:15 PM)teh_skeeze Wrote:  

Edit: Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but I feel no sympathy for the little kid. Did you see his frail attempt at white knighting?

What, his attempt at protecting his sister?

Hardly constitutes White Knighting.

If you feel no sympathy then you've got some soul-searching to do.

[Fortis]

(03-16-2015 10:03 PM)Windom Earle Wrote:  

(03-16-2015 06:15 PM)teh_skeeze Wrote:  

Edit: Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but I feel no sympathy for the little kid. Did you see his frail attempt at white knighting?

What, his attempt at protecting his sister?

Hardly constitutes White Knighting.

I'm pretty sure skeeze is but that did make me chuckle.

[Remington]

(03-16-2015 10:03 PM)Windom Earle Wrote:  

(03-16-2015 06:15 PM)teh_skeeze Wrote:  

Edit: Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but I feel no sympathy for the little kid. Did you see his frail attempt at white knighting?

What, his attempt at protecting his sister?

Hardly constitutes White Knighting.

Especially from a kid who looks five to six years old. If I saw my sister get hit, I would go apeshit.

[Kabal]

(03-16-2015 06:15 PM)teh_skeeze Wrote:  

Edit: Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but I feel no sympathy for the little kid. Did you see his frail attempt at white knighting?

Yeah, pathetic--his ground game and striking skills were nowhere to be found.

I bet that little wuss lets kindergarten sloots sneak appetizers by him on drink dates, too.

[Atticus]

iknowexactly wrote: "All blacks HAVEN'T been tarred with the same brush unless you let that happen in your mind".

I certainly didn't mean to covey the impression that all blacks have been tarred with the same brush in my mind. I was simply engaging with Roosh's proposition that such behavior will lead to a backlash against minorities, whether rightly or wrongly.

[lavidaloca]

(03-16-2015 10:03 PM)Windom Earle Wrote:  

(03-16-2015 06:15 PM)teh_skeeze Wrote:  

Edit: Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but I feel no sympathy for the little kid. Did you see his frail attempt at white knighting?

What, his attempt at protecting his sister?

Hardly constitutes White Knighting.

If you feel no sympathy then you've got some soul-searching to do.

teh_skeeze must be drunk or didn't even watch the video. The kid was about 4 or 5 years old and about 3 feet tall. He probably weighed 50-60 pounds.

[CactusCat589]

Come on dude. Female relatives are the handful of women you ARE permitted to white knight for.

[WalterBlack]

(03-16-2015 09:47 PM)tomtud Wrote:  

This kinda shit is unheard of in other countries.

The usa has a big problem w a section of their population. We all know that. Question is what will be done about it?
The welfare state/ entitlements is one issue. Yet social security for those who paid into it is running out of money, yet the welfare system never runs out. An economic revolution will happen and the idiots will come home to roost

I just read some articles on Yahoo news, not on the main page. Said she was arrested on another charge. Said nothing about race. It's no wonder I don't bother with CNNwhen they cover racial incidents to incite further. Now i read articles and if they omit the names or race i call it BS.

No it isn’t…some guys I went to school with beat the shit out of some random white guy and put him in hospital. The attackers were all Indian, except one mixed race black/white guy. They were suspended from school for 2 weeks. They were all 14/15 years old and this was in the 1990s in UK. If this happened now, they would all get kicked out of school. They later told me they did because they wanted to beat up a white guy for a laugh.

This is from the news in UK today:

Racist thug who slashed black woman’s face in Liverpool street jailed for 11 years

Quote:

A racist thug who slashed a black woman’s face after bumping into her in a Liverpool street was jailed for 11 years.

John Kavanagh, 31, collided with his victim when walking down Holt Road in Kensington at around 3pm on June 3 last year.

The 39-year-old woman helpfully pointed out that his headphones were trailing on the ground, to which he replied “f*** off n*****”.

Liverpool Crown Court heard that Kavanagh, of Dial Street, Kensington, carried on up the road, but then turned back.

Graham Pickavance, prosecuting, said he was seen on CCTV taking something out of his pocket, before attacking his victim.

He said: “She was struck to the head by an item which caused a cut to her head.
“She fell to the ground on her hands and knees and was bleeding onto the pavement.”

Kavanagh ran away, leaving his victim with a two to three inch slash above her left eye, which was badly swollen.

This is from a couple of years ago:

Three jailed for life for race murder of schoolboy

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Three Asian gang members were jailed for life yesterday for the "savage and barbaric" racially motivated murder of a schoolboy in Glasgow who had been singled out because he was white.

Kriss Donald, 15, from Pollokshields, was abducted, stabbed repeatedly and then doused in petrol and burned to death by five men of Pakistani descent in March 2004, apparently in revenge for an earlier incident at a city centre nightclub.

The judge, Lord Uist, told Imran Shahid, 29, his brother Zeeshan, 28, and Mohammed Mushtaq, 27, that their "pre-meditated, cold-blooded execution ... truly was an abomination".

As he sentenced the men to minimum sentences of 25, 22, and 23 years respectively, the schoolboy's mother, Angela, shouted out: "You bastards!"

During the six-week trial the high court in Edinburgh heard graphic and often harrowing testimony from forensic experts that the victim was probably alive when he was set on fire, and had tried vainly to douse the flames by rolling on the ground.

His charred and semi-clothed body was found in the foetal position the following day, on a walkway on the bank of the Clyde. Prosecutors said the murder was "one of the worst and most appalling crimes of inhumanity against an effectively defenceless boy".

The killing horrified white and Asian Glaswegians alike, exposing a seam of criminality and gang culture among some young Pakistani Scots in the city, and causing an upsurge in racial tensions in the area.

The jury of nine women and six men heard that Mr Donald had been singled out by Imran Shahid, 29, known as "Baldy", after Shahid had been hit with a bottle or glass at Victoria's nightclub on Sauchiehall Street in central Glasgow the previous evening.

Shahid, a bodybuilder who at the time sported a distinctive part-shaven, bleached-blond haircut, had pledged to seek revenge for the assault, which he blamed on a rival gang. "Boys from McCulloch Street" had attacked him, the court heard, and he wanted to know which "white bastards" had injured his pride.

Shahid and his four friends set out in a stolen silver Mercedes, cruising the streets of Pollokshaws with a knife, hammer and screwdriver; they came across Kriss Donald, who was a friend of the white men being sought but who was unconnected with the nightclub incident.

There's evil fuckers outside of America too!

[iknowexactly]

(03-16-2015 10:16 PM)Kabal Wrote:  

(03-16-2015 06:15 PM)teh_skeeze Wrote:  

Edit: Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but I feel no sympathy for the little kid. Did you see his frail attempt at white knighting?

Yeah, pathetic--his ground game and striking skills were nowhere to be found.

I bet that little wuss lets kindergarten sloots sneak appetizers by him on drink dates, too.

The last straw. Kick him again, I say.

[Fortis]

You guys are taking Skeeze's comment way too seriously. He was clearly joking, if not may the real skeeze please stand up?