Quote: (07-29-2015 08:04 AM)Dantes Wrote:
Quote: (03-08-2015 09:06 PM)theVampire Wrote:
Do you see Moscow superior to Kiev in any way as far as gaming 8+'s. Did you see 8+ more often in Moscow? How saturated was that shopping mall?
For talent I rate Kiev higher. Daygame is also more concentrated. I find 8s in Kiev a little more receptive but there are also more semi-pros at night. I am sure they exist in Moscow, but I have not come across them yet.
Man I have thought about this a lot and to me it's still a wash. Every time I'm in Kiev I think Moscow's better and a bit of vice versa. The fact that there are so many more people in Moscow + the increased diversity there tips the scales in Moscow's favor for me. Russia is a much bigger country that Ukraine and basically any young hot girl who wants to get a decent job / make it big (or at least make some ok money) or meet a guy/fall in with the right crowd needs to go to Moscow as it's the economic and political capital of the country. Kiev is similar but in a much smaller way so it's just not the same. There is a ton more $$$s in Moscow too and it's much more of an international place with generally more sophisticated people. Here in Kiev I sometimes feel like it's a glorified village.
Also, Kiev women are a bit guarded sometimes due to the whole "sex tourist" vibe on Kreshatik and Arena (Turks and Italians & other thirsty dudes have been coming to Kiev for hundreds of years).
The club scene is way better in Moscow too.
But all that said, I'd also argue that the average girl in Kiev is probably a bit higher on the scale than Moscow (and most Russians think Ukrainian women are the prettiest).
RE St. Petersburg, yeah it's a bit cheaper than Moscow, sometimes a good bit more, but the women aren't typically as pretty. Sure the top echelon are, but in general you don't get as many beauties flocking there as you do in Moscow. It's still good, but there's also more of a hipster vibe to it and it's also the most European of all Russian cities and filled with tourists in the Summer at least. So to me the locals seemed a little more guarded towards foreigner tourists and I think we on the forum know that "hipsterism" & "tourism" generally tend to make gaming a bit worse and also generally lower the quality of the women (they don't care as much, don't take care of themselves as much, are more manly, etc).
Edit: re "semi-pros" yeah Moscow is full of them too, but they are not as concentrated as in Kiev in Arena or near Kreshatik. Just go to Soho Rooms and you'll see plenty of them