[Merenguero]

(02-24-2015 07:18 PM)mikado Wrote:  

(02-24-2015 07:14 PM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  

It's way above my pay grade to say if its better post college. But I can tell you one thing: even in a top tier city like Paris, going out independently of your student status sucks ass.

I'm talking about it's holidays here and all student activities are ceased, your friends all go home to see their family, so you head out to standard venues like bars and clubs and dance venues to chill, and it's fucking horrifying.

I was at one of the nicest dance venues in Paris that incorporated a high class restaurant, and the crowd is overwhelmingly old women 40+. ALL THE PRETTY GIRLS in there I actually have come across them at other venues, meaning that there actually is a limited number of hot pussy in any given scene. Entrance fee is high and a cocktail is 10 euro. I was shocked to the core. Compared this to weekly student dance night where 70% of the crowd is hot young college girls AND the entrance is free. I really can't see how graduating will make life better.

Sure you can join sport/art club and build a name for yourself and play your card right, but that takes so much fucking time and effort. All the older guys I know who manage to do that kinda have their life/job centered around it: dance instructors, sport coach at university, club owner etc. I seriously don't know how a desk job guy can manage to keep up the work to maintain a social circle with hot girls, outside of cold approaching like Gio.

This bears an interesting question:
When you graduate in a typically not girl-fashionable field, such as sport coach or dance instructor (ie engineer kinds of jobs), how do you make your new job match with that lifestyle with hot girls?

You don't. You build an exciting lifestyle outside of your job and invite girls into it.

[mikado]

(02-24-2015 07:31 PM)Merenguero Wrote:  

(02-24-2015 07:18 PM)mikado Wrote:  

(02-24-2015 07:14 PM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  

It's way above my pay grade to say if its better post college. But I can tell you one thing: even in a top tier city like Paris, going out independently of your student status sucks ass.

I'm talking about it's holidays here and all student activities are ceased, your friends all go home to see their family, so you head out to standard venues like bars and clubs and dance venues to chill, and it's fucking horrifying.

I was at one of the nicest dance venues in Paris that incorporated a high class restaurant, and the crowd is overwhelmingly old women 40+. ALL THE PRETTY GIRLS in there I actually have come across them at other venues, meaning that there actually is a limited number of hot pussy in any given scene. Entrance fee is high and a cocktail is 10 euro. I was shocked to the core. Compared this to weekly student dance night where 70% of the crowd is hot young college girls AND the entrance is free. I really can't see how graduating will make life better.

Sure you can join sport/art club and build a name for yourself and play your card right, but that takes so much fucking time and effort. All the older guys I know who manage to do that kinda have their life/job centered around it: dance instructors, sport coach at university, club owner etc. I seriously don't know how a desk job guy can manage to keep up the work to maintain a social circle with hot girls, outside of cold approaching like Gio.

This bears an interesting question:
When you graduate in a typically not girl-fashionable field, such as sport coach or dance instructor (ie engineer kinds of jobs), how do you make your new job match with that lifestyle with hot girls?

You don't. You build an exciting lifestyle outside of your job and invite girls into it.

OK, sir.

Why did I decide to be an engineer? xD

[Nascimento]

I think we can all agree it takes effort to do well (quality wise) at any stage in your life.

A 20 year old isn't going to land prime pussy just because he's young and surrounded by college girls (remember only 20% of the guys in college are getting the pussy). If this were true a lot of the younger guys wouldn't even be here.

Likewise, a 40 year old isn't going to land the same prime pussy just because he has more money than when he was younger and he avoided becoming overweight.

Game is still a factor. Putting in effort to meet and approach girls, being comfortable around them, confident, engaging, charming, etc.

Whether one or the other is easier will depend on different things. Individual factors when you are younger vs older, your location and environment, the types of girls that are into you, your social aptitude, etc.

It's about making the most of it no matter what stage of life you may be.

I like this thread.

[Dalaran1991]

(02-24-2015 07:35 PM)mikado Wrote:  

(02-24-2015 07:31 PM)Merenguero Wrote:  

(02-24-2015 07:18 PM)mikado Wrote:  

(02-24-2015 07:14 PM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  

It's way above my pay grade to say if its better post college. But I can tell you one thing: even in a top tier city like Paris, going out independently of your student status sucks ass.

I'm talking about it's holidays here and all student activities are ceased, your friends all go home to see their family, so you head out to standard venues like bars and clubs and dance venues to chill, and it's fucking horrifying.

I was at one of the nicest dance venues in Paris that incorporated a high class restaurant, and the crowd is overwhelmingly old women 40+. ALL THE PRETTY GIRLS in there I actually have come across them at other venues, meaning that there actually is a limited number of hot pussy in any given scene. Entrance fee is high and a cocktail is 10 euro. I was shocked to the core. Compared this to weekly student dance night where 70% of the crowd is hot young college girls AND the entrance is free. I really can't see how graduating will make life better.

Sure you can join sport/art club and build a name for yourself and play your card right, but that takes so much fucking time and effort. All the older guys I know who manage to do that kinda have their life/job centered around it: dance instructors, sport coach at university, club owner etc. I seriously don't know how a desk job guy can manage to keep up the work to maintain a social circle with hot girls, outside of cold approaching like Gio.

This bears an interesting question:
When you graduate in a typically not girl-fashionable field, such as sport coach or dance instructor (ie engineer kinds of jobs), how do you make your new job match with that lifestyle with hot girls?

You don't. You build an exciting lifestyle outside of your job and invite girls into it.

OK, sir.

Why did I decided to be an engineer? xD

Bitches still love money, mon frère

[mikado]

(02-24-2015 07:58 PM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  

Bitches still love money, mon frère

Why do you think my kinda ex-girlfriend wants to marry me?

She clearly said that the money was a big reason for that.

[Dalaran1991]

(02-24-2015 08:07 PM)mikado Wrote:  

Why do you think my kinda ex-girlfriend wants to marry me?

She clearly said that the money was a big reason for that.

At least she was an honest bitch. Kinda rare for French girls.

See, that right there is the biggest hang up about getting older:

Say, you become succesful, lead healthy life, have connections, lots of $

How do you know girls and people in general like you and NOT your money/success?

This is why I think good college friends sometimes are your best friends for life because when you met you all had nothing. No money, no connection, your friendship was built based on sheer compatibility and shared interests. You know that they like you for who you are, not what you have because you have nothing except some noodles boxes. I'm not saying is unconditional (nothing ever is) but I still think it's a lot less opportunistic than the kind of friendships you build later in life. At least thats how some older friends tell me.

[Quintus Curtius]

(02-23-2015 02:35 PM)scorpion Wrote:  

Your father is a city bus driver who is married to a crackhead and effortlessly pulls 8s and 9s on the reg?

I'm sorry, have you mistaken the RVF for some kind of game fan fiction forum? Get the fuck out of here with your lies and exaggerations.

BEST. SCORPION. POST.

EVER.

[Giovonny]

I became a "scrub" after college, that, is the reason I joined this forum.

Because I was an athlete, I got lots of quality p*ssy in college. After college, I got a regular construction job and all the p*ssy was gone. I went from being surrounded by young girls to being surrounded by old men. (This is the access that Scorpion describes)

The frustration began to set in... Where could I meet hot, young girls? How could I seduce them if I'm not in their social circle?

I would work all day and come home tired. I was making money but I would literally go days and weeks without talking to pretty young girls.

This went on for 2 years, my frustration grew and grew. I did not have much sex for those 2 years.

Eventually, I went back to graduate school and my sex life returned.

But, then, after graduate school, the problem returned..

I was back in the working world and I did not have regular access to pretty, young girls.

My sexual frustration began to set in again. I was 30 years old and I had practically zero access to hot college girls. I felt trapped. I didn't have much sex for a few years.

Finally, I went to Brazil for 6 months to try and relieve my frustration. As a tourist in Brazil, things were much better.

I returned home and my sex life again dried up.

I got a job on a college campus and I was surrounded by hot girls but I was too scared to try and bang them, I didn't want to get fired.

After about 2 years of that, I said "fuck it". I decided that I would start trying to bang the students at my college and I didn't care if I got fired or not. I was sick and tired of being lonely and sexless.

I started banging students. It was a lot of fun. Thank God I never got in trouble.

Then, that very same year (2010) I joined the forum and started doing "approaches".

I decided that I was going to do whatever it takes to start banging college girls.

I started going to university and college campuses a few times a week, sometimes, I went 5 days a week.

If I got off of work at 2pm, I was on campus by 230pm

If I had a day off, I was on campus from 12-4pm

Approaching college girls became almost an obsession for me.

I started working in the afternoons and evenings so I could chase college girls during the day.

What an experience it has been!

I have no regrets.. I got what I wanted. It feels great.

But, it was a lot of work.

Learn from my mistakes so you don't have to work as hard.

*****

Now..

How can I advise you guys so that you don't have the same problems that I did...???

How can I help you so that you don't have to go through everything that I did...???

I think it comes down to two things:

1) Freedom

2) Location

If you do not have freedom over your time and freedom over your location, then, you are basically trapped. You can not go where you want and you can not do what you want.

If you are not in a location with lots of pretty, young girls, than, you can not meet any pretty, young girls.

When you take a job after college, consider the level of freedom and the location.

Are you stuck in an office all day? Or, can you get outside and adjust your location if you want to?

Are you in a small town with limited availability of girls? Or, are you in a big city with many, many options in terms of females?

These are the things you should think about.

*****

Also, you should consider your priorities..

What is more important to you..?

Money or sex?

The answer should be money. But, you must also find way to have a healthy sex life.

My friend Westcoast no longer posts on this forum. He works long hours and makes good money on Wall St. But, he also goes out dancing every weekend to ensure a steady stream of cuties. He dresses well, works out, and is a good dancer.

He is making money and getting quality girls. He lives in San Francisco and travels a lot.

My point is that you can both ($ and girls), but, it takes effort and a good location + a good strategy + game.

*****

Or, you can make money and be a "sugar daddy" type.

Or, you can make money get hookers.

Or, you can be poor and chase girls all day.

Or, you can try to find success with a "location-independent" job.

Each man must figure out the right system and strategy for himself.

I recommend trying to make money and also trying to improve your game, all while living in a good strategic location and being aggressive about approaching and talking to girls. Try to do both!

*****

If you have "game", you will never be a "scrub"!

*****

Here is my interview with Christian Mcqueen where I discuss this topic in more detail:

https://soundcloud.com/thechristianmcque...up-college

[berserk]

^ Great post Gio.

Access is half the battle won.

[Dalaran1991]

How I feel reading Gio's post:



Gio, in terms of freedom and location, IF you have to choose, what would you rather have?

For example, I would be doing a desk job 9-5 for a few years if I'm lucky, so no freedom. But I live in Paris where there are a lots of hot young college girls.

Or I could take a job in a more remote third-tier cities that allow lots of freedom but where the demographics are screwed.

I don't think new graduates can always have both location and freedom

[Lime]

(02-25-2015 02:34 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

I became a "scrub" after college, that, is the reason I joined this forum.

Because I was an athlete, I got lots of quality p*ssy in college. After college, I got a regular construction job and all the p*ssy was gone. I went from being surrounded by young girls to being surrounded by old men. (This is the access that Scorpion describes)

The frustration began to set in... Where could I meet hot, young girls? How could I seduce them if I'm not in their social circle?

I would work all day and come home tired. I was making money but I would literally go days and weeks without talking to pretty young girls.

This went on for 2 years, my frustration grew and grew. I did not have much sex for those 2 years.

Eventually, I went back to graduate school and my sex life returned.

But, then, after graduate school, the problem returned..

I was back in the working world and I did not have regular access to pretty, young girls.

My sexual frustration began to set in again. I was 30 years old and I had practically zero access to hot college girls. I felt trapped. I didn't have much sex for a few years.

Finally, I went to Brazil for 6 months to try and relieve my frustration. As a tourist in Brazil, things were much better.

I returned home and my sex life again dried up.

I got a job on a college campus and I was surrounded by hot girls but I was too scared to try and bang them, I didn't want to get fired.

After about 2 years of that, I said "fuck it". I decided that I would start trying to bang the students at my college and I didn't care if I got fired or not. I was sick and tired of being lonely and sexless.

I started banging students. It was a lot of fun. Thank God I never got in trouble.

Then, that very same year (2010) I joined the forum and started doing "approaches".

I decided that I was going to do whatever it takes to start banging college girls.

I started going to university and college campuses a few times a week, sometimes, I went 5 days a week.

Gio,

you had fame and a lot of girls on high school and early college years.

Yet, in your later years, you had a lack of sex with cute girls and decided to work for it to get more.

What is it worth to get a lot of girls when young if you don't get much when you are older? Something to reminisce on, sure.

But the fact that you actively decided to pursue them says enough.

Do the memories of sex with hot college girls in your youth still make you happy, or do you live in the moment where it is not so important what you did in the past but more what you are doing now?

In other words, what does a lot of good sex in your youth means when you are older? A person may have had 50 lays in college but if he is trapped in a shitty lifestyle not conducive to meeting girls afterwards, what is it worth?

While I didn't do bad, regrets of underachieving game-wise due to different factors (including serious schoolwork) haunt me. But I try to understand that it is more important to get girls now than what I did in the past.

It's difficult to put these thoughts into writing, but I can beat myself up so badly about underachieving in college that I wonder I can ever repair that feeling. I sometimes do as if having had a good sex life in college is the most important thing in the world, and if I fail that, it will fill me with regret all my life.

[scorpion]

(12-27-2016 06:18 AM)Lime Wrote:  

It's difficult to put these thoughts into writing, but I can beat myself up so badly about underachieving in college that I wonder I can ever repair that feeling. I sometimes do as if having had a good sex life in college is the most important thing in the world, and if I fail that, it will fill me with regret all my life.

Fuck off with this attitude. It's toxic. Somewhere in the world a few guys your exact age are going to die prematurely today. Other men your age are living with crippling disabilities or disfigurement. You don't get to wallow in self-pity because you didn't get laid in the past as much as you'd like. Disgustingly solipsistic. Slap yourself across the face a few times, you need to snap out of it.

The past is dead. The only thing that matters is your mindset moving forward.

[Lime]

^ you are right scorpion, and I havent had it that bad (30+ notches including quite some cute girls now in mid 20s).

Maybe I need some perspective as I maybe had it pretty good actually. Sometimes difficult to understand. If anyone has a technique to get rid of this mindset please share.

[dallasguy]

Get over it and live for the present and future. There is more to life than banging dozens of college chicks. If you can still game them then fine. If not then girls 23 to 28 still look fine if all you want is pussy. We all get older. Will you be crying when you're 70 and can't bang college girls?

[Giovonny]

(12-27-2016 06:18 AM)Lime Wrote:  

Gio,

What is it worth to get a lot of girls when young if you don't get much when you are older?

Yes, it was worth it -- but, I would also say that it's better to get girls when you are older versus when you are younger because when you are younger you don't appreciate it as much.

(12-27-2016 06:18 AM)Lime Wrote:  

Do the memories of sex with hot college girls in your youth still make you happy,

Yes.

But, I don't have to rely on "memories"... I have a vast collection of X-rated pictures and video.

(12-27-2016 06:18 AM)Lime Wrote:  

do you live in the moment where it is not so important what you did in the past but more what you are doing now?

Yes, I live in the present.

I don't really care about the past.

(12-27-2016 06:18 AM)Lime Wrote:  

In other words, what does a lot of good sex in your youth means when you are older?

I have some good memories to jerk off too.

(12-27-2016 06:18 AM)Lime Wrote:  

A person may have had 50 lays in college but if he is trapped in a shitty lifestyle not conducive to meeting girls afterwards, what is it worth?

Sex life in college should have no effect on professional success.

Your work today should not be limited by your sex life in the past.

(12-27-2016 06:18 AM)Lime Wrote:  

But I try to understand that it is more important to get girls now than what I did in the past.

Ummm, yeah, the present is more important than the past!!

(12-27-2016 06:18 AM)Lime Wrote:  

I wonder if I can ever repair that feeling.

You CAN repair it!

How??

Banging college girls!!!

Dude, you are in your 20s!!!

Stop living in the past and go learn how to fuck girls!!!

When I was in your position I was approaching college girls everyday!!!

How many college girls are you talking to everyday?!?!?

[Thrill Jackson]

(02-20-2015 10:36 PM)LINUX Wrote:  

I spent my whole 20's working and making money.

It's the biggest regret I have.

What I should of done is made just enough money to eat and travel.

And have all my possessions fit into 2 suitcase.

But what about stability? That is my biggest fear when it comes to saying fuck it and traveling the world. (I'm 22 btw)

[Conquerer7]

(03-06-2017 09:58 AM)Thrill Jackson Wrote:  

(02-20-2015 10:36 PM)LINUX Wrote:  

I spent my whole 20's working and making money.

It's the biggest regret I have.

What I should of done is made just enough money to eat and travel.

And have all my possessions fit into 2 suitcase.

But what about stability? That is my biggest fear when it comes to saying fuck it and traveling the world. (I'm 22 btw)

In what context does stability come for you? In terms of a job you could have no experience or all the experience in the World today there is no job security.