[Agreddor]

@irish, I'm in Taiwan now and the women here are gorgeous!!!!!

[YardDog]

Thread title is killing me.

Asia: A Warning

[CodyB]

Think the dude the dude that was diagnosed with Gonnorhea enroute to China had a better time then this poor soul. Suck it up, if you don't want to adapt why are you going out to Taiwan?

[CJ_W]

(02-18-2015 05:28 PM)travolta Wrote:  

Another thing: teaching English is frowned upon by girls in Asia (at least the desirable ones). They think of English teachers as "someone who cannot get a job at home." So while it's okay to be an English teacher, you should lie about your job. Tell girls something else. Also it's good to act like you'll be there for a very long time, and to give girls hope of a relationship, even if it's not true.

No it's not. Only the 27+ aged ones care about that, because they want to trap some poor Beta bucks dude into marriage, and even then in many cases it doesn't matter. I taught English. . .but then I could speak the language good enough to have a regular conversation. So maybe that helps, but I think it helps if you a)never bring it up yourself or b) if she asks just non-chalantly mention it then move on, or focus on her.

young hot Asian chicks aren't going to be doing anything better than you teaching English anyway, I banged one chick who fucking worked in an assembly line factory putting toys together or whatever, she did not care what I did, but then again she 19 years old and never went to high school. Those are the kinds of girls you need to be aiming for. The ones that "don't want English teachers" is code for "I have been pumped and dumped by so many foreign dudes that my vagina is larger than the hall of mirrors in Versailles"

Besides the job market in Asia for Asians. . .kind of sucks, a lot. So yeah unless you are trying to hit on 10 Korean girls in Gangnam, it really doesn't matter what your "Job" is.

You're just trying to bang the hottest, youngest women you can. Not trying to get a girlfriend, and not trying to get a wife. If you were having trouble with women in asia because of your "job" then you were simply doing it wrong and need to work on your game a lot more.

Since you believe that is the case, then you better started working on yourself.+\n
A lot of you guys need to browse through older posts on Asia before mouthing off about stuff you have no idea about. There's TONS of information on these forums about that part of the world.

[travolta]

[quote] (02-19-2015 12:18 AM)CJ_W Wrote:  

[quote='CJ_W' pid='960819' dateline='1424323111']
I banged one chick who fucking worked in an assembly line factory putting toys together or whatever, she did not care what I did, but then again she 19 years old and never went to high school. Those are the kinds of girls you need to be aiming for.[/quote]

You should be aiming for girls who don't have a high school education and work in a factory? haha, I'll pass

[quote] (02-19-2015 12:18 AM)CJ_W Wrote:  

The ones that "don't want English teachers" is code for "I have been pumped and dumped by so many foreign dudes that my vagina is larger than the hall of mirrors in Versailles"[/quote]

Or it's code for "I already have access to the top tier Taiwanese guys, so you'd better have more to offer than them. Not sure where you get the idea that hot girls who want successful guys have loose vaginas. That's just absurd.


[quote] (02-19-2015 12:18 AM)CJ_W Wrote:  

Since you believe that is the case, then you better started working on yourself.+[/quote]

Coming from someone who goes after girls with no high school education and teaches English. Believe it or not, having a lot of money helps with getting hotter girls, especially in Asia. Don't be offended by my comment about being an English teacher. I don't care what you choose to do with your life. I'm just stating the facts- having a real job is more respected by people. Take it or leave it. I did "work on myself," made a lot of money, and I have an easier time getting girls with social status. No need for me to chase girls without a high school education.

[WanderingSoul]

(02-19-2015 12:34 AM)travolta Wrote:  

[quote] (02-19-2015 12:18 AM)CJ_W Wrote:  

I banged one chick who fucking worked in an assembly line factory putting toys together or whatever, she did not care what I did, but then again she 19 years old and never went to high school. Those are the kinds of girls you need to be aiming for.

You should be aiming for girls who don't have a high school education and work in a factory? haha, I'll pass.

You were unexpectedly gentle with that one, travola lol.

I'm honestly not sure if CJ just threw out some amazing troll bait, or if he's serious.

[Rutting Elephant]

(02-19-2015 12:18 AM)CJ_W Wrote:  

(02-18-2015 05:28 PM)travolta Wrote:  

Another thing: teaching English is frowned upon by girls in Asia (at least the desirable ones). They think of English teachers as "someone who cannot get a job at home." So while it's okay to be an English teacher, you should lie about your job. Tell girls something else. Also it's good to act like you'll be there for a very long time, and to give girls hope of a relationship, even if it's not true.

No it's not. Only the 27+ aged ones care about that, because they want to trap some poor Beta bucks dude into marriage, and even then in many cases it doesn't matter. I taught English. . .but then I could speak the language good enough to have a regular conversation. So maybe that helps, but I think it helps if you a)never bring it up yourself or b) if she asks just non-chalantly mention it then move on, or focus on her.

young hot Asian chicks aren't going to be doing anything better than you teaching English anyway,

If you were having trouble with women in asia because of your "job" then you were simply doing it wrong and need to work on your game a lot more.

A lot of you guys need to browse through older posts on Asia before mouthing off about stuff you have no idea about.

I can confirm that English-teaching foreign guys are considered bottom of the barrel by teen and twenties Indonesian girls. In other words, that job in particular lowers SMV. No need to hamster, especially since you successfully overcame that liability.

[YardDog]

(02-19-2015 12:34 AM)travolta Wrote:  

[quote] (02-19-2015 12:18 AM)CJ_W Wrote:  

I banged one chick who fucking worked in an assembly line factory putting toys together or whatever, she did not care what I did, but then again she 19 years old and never went to high school. Those are the kinds of girls you need to be aiming for.

You should be aiming for girls who don't have a high school education and work in a factory? haha, I'll pass.

Don't laugh, Asian assembly line game is legit. I ran this in China with huge results.

Each afternoon I would take the free tour at FoxConn. During the tour, while the guide wasn't looking, I would stash my phone number in the pockets of those white trench coats the girls were wearing. The girls were total zombies and wouldn't even notice, even if I grabbed a little titty while stashing.

Anyway, I wrote 'come assemble at my factory, I pay more. #555-555--5555'.

I would get dozens of calls which I turned into 'interviews' at my apt. In the course of a month I banged over 100 iPad assemblers. Here's a tasty sample of my conquests:



PM me for details.

[RawGod]

(02-19-2015 01:24 AM)Rutting Elephant Wrote:  

I can confirm that English-teaching foreign guys are considered bottom of the barrel by teen and twenties Indonesian girls. In other words, that job in particular lowers SMV. No need to hamster, especially since you successfully overcame that liability.

There are 250 million people in Indonesia and foreigners are more rare than in any other SEA country.

Any Indonesian girl that regards herself as motherfucking PICKY in the type of foreigner she dates is either part of the small group of hoes/golddiggers that hang around Bali and Jakarta clubs and have had more dick than you've had hot meals, or is a member of the true hiso elite.

99% of Indo girls fit into neither of these categories and that's where the sweet spot is, English teacher or not.

[Suits]

(02-19-2015 01:39 AM)YardDog Wrote:  

(02-19-2015 12:34 AM)travolta Wrote:  

[quote] (02-19-2015 12:18 AM)CJ_W Wrote:  

I banged one chick who fucking worked in an assembly line factory putting toys together or whatever, she did not care what I did, but then again she 19 years old and never went to high school. Those are the kinds of girls you need to be aiming for.

You should be aiming for girls who don't have a high school education and work in a factory? haha, I'll pass.

Don't laugh, Asian assembly line game is legit. I ran this in China with huge results.

Each afternoon I would take the free tour at FoxConn. During the tour, while the guide wasn't looking, I would stash my phone number in the pockets of those white trench coats the girls were wearing. The girls were total zombies and wouldn't even notice, even if I grabbed a little titty while stashing.

Anyway, I wrote 'come assemble at my factory, I pay more. #555-555--5555'.

I would get dozens of calls which I turned into 'interviews' at my apt. In the course of a month I banged over 100 iPad assemblers. Here's a tasty sample of my conquests:



PM me for details.

I have trouble wrapping my head around this story.

[Rutting Elephant]

(02-19-2015 02:00 AM)RawGod Wrote:  

(02-19-2015 01:24 AM)Rutting Elephant Wrote:  

I can confirm that English-teaching foreign guys are considered bottom of the barrel by teen and twenties Indonesian girls. In other words, that job in particular lowers SMV. No need to hamster, especially since you successfully overcame that liability.

There are 250 million people in Indonesia and foreigners are more rare than in any other SEA country.

Any Indonesian girl that regards herself as motherfucking PICKY in the type of foreigner she dates is either part of the small group of hoes/golddiggers that hang around Bali and Jakarta clubs and have had more dick than you've had hot meals, or is a member of the true hiso elite.

99% of Indo girls fit into neither of these categories and that's where the sweet spot is, English teacher or not.

I've been here a decade. I know hardly any girls who go to clubs - I meet them on campus, in the street, and through families/social circle. Rich, poor, the girls prescreen foreigners. English teachers are at the bottom of the foreigner food chain, even according to girls for whom I am their first foreign acquiantance. Why are people so sensitive about this?

[Suits]

(02-19-2015 03:07 AM)Rutting Elephant Wrote:  

(02-19-2015 02:00 AM)RawGod Wrote:  

(02-19-2015 01:24 AM)Rutting Elephant Wrote:  

I can confirm that English-teaching foreign guys are considered bottom of the barrel by teen and twenties Indonesian girls. In other words, that job in particular lowers SMV. No need to hamster, especially since you successfully overcame that liability.

There are 250 million people in Indonesia and foreigners are more rare than in any other SEA country.

Any Indonesian girl that regards herself as motherfucking PICKY in the type of foreigner she dates is either part of the small group of hoes/golddiggers that hang around Bali and Jakarta clubs and have had more dick than you've had hot meals, or is a member of the true hiso elite.

99% of Indo girls fit into neither of these categories and that's where the sweet spot is, English teacher or not.

I've been here a decade. I know hardly any girls who go to clubs - I meet them on campus, in the street, and through families/social circle. Rich, poor, the girls prescreen foreigners. English teachers are at the bottom of the foreigner food chain, even according to girls for whom I am their first foreign acquiantance. Why are people so sensitive about this?

Perception.

[YardDog]

@ Suits. That's because it didn't happen. I'm just fucking around and having a laugh.

Though I would like to tour FoxConn to see what a 450,000 person factory looks like.

[RichieP]

Have to also disagree about Eng teachers being intrinsically low-value in Indo/SE Asia.

We should make the distinction between...

1)Girls not liking the typical English teacher

and

2)Girls seeing the profession of 'English Teacher' as a deal-breaker

1) maybe true. Because, why? Because, look at the typical English teacher. But 2) isnt, except for a small subset who are desperate to "marry up" ASAP and primarily concerned with your income.

I absolutely guarantee you can be an English teacher and smash at a high level in Indo/SE Asia. "High level" being true stunners and some girls from high society/wealth. Trust me. But you have to have... drumroll... game. And smart positioning/social calibration. Helps if you can afford a nice shirt and your own non-rathole apartment though too.

[CaptainCrazy]

(02-18-2015 10:42 PM)YardDog Wrote:  

Thread title is killing me.

Asia: A Warning

Asia: A Warning - you can get an STD as you'll be fucking a new girl every night.

[Adrenaline]

What if you have a teaching degree and are a proper teacher? I thought that got mad respect in Asia, definitely more so than in Western society.

[CodyB]

(02-19-2015 05:40 AM)Adrenaline Wrote:  

What if you have a teaching degree and are a proper teacher? I thought that got mad respect in Asia, definitely more so than in Western society.

Incorrect.

Teachers are a medium, not unlike the rice farmer or the street food vendor trusted to provide the rice, the food or sufficient educational attainment.

In fact, the Chinese principles that pertain to education are so far bastardised that most countries without exposure to western standard (E.g. Thailand and Mainland China), educational attainment generally does not correlate to intelligence.

I'm going off topic here, but you have generations of Chinese business moguls who spawn spoilt, idiotic children because they (or their children with daddy's disposable cash) pretty bought their degrees. There's a big reason why in Taiwan and Hong Kong why they are importing professionals from the Anglosphere and not China.

[LeightonBlackstock]

You spent two weeks in Taiwan and didn't enjoy it?

Christ, grab some Taiwan beers and head to Luxy/Roxy99. Fun as hell. I mean this in a positive way OP, just loosen up a bit.

As with the being a teacher. Yes and no. Being a teacher is low value in Korea. In Taiwan, it's 'meh', but you have to remember you're gonna be on a high middle-class wage. It depends how you carry it with your frame. 'Teaching kiddies at Hess' is gonna be received a whole lot differently than 'preparing students for IELTS.'. But yeah, in Taiwan, it's certainly not a demonstration of high value on it's own.

In Bangkok though, different story. Teach at my school and you're in no way getting looked down on by anyone. One of the first things I mention to girls is the name of my school, then they open up.

The wage doesn't go back into English pounds that well, but you have to remember what it's worth in Thai society. The brother of a girl I'm dating here speaks six languages and works for Four Seasons, travelling around Asia. I earn more than him. Get a TEFL job in Bangkok of 50,000+ and you have a strong upper middle-class wage and a stake in society.

Get a 30,000 a month job, and well, yeah, you can't expect to be impressing anyone (despite it surprisingly being a very strong salary for a middle-class Thai)

[The Beast1]

God forbid someone make friends with a social group and meet new women that way. Cavemen game is for easy women and dumb men (with all due respect).

[atlant]

Always love it when guys like OP and his teacher bros do their chest-thumping monkey routine at the clubs here, expecting girls to jump on their dicks immediately. You always see them go home empty-handed. Still haven't quite decided whether they make the rest of us look worse or better, but all in all OP leaving Taiwan will be a mutually beneficial outcome. Well-dressed guys with actual game (see Papi Rico/Irish) clean up here no problem.

Being an English teacher is not a total dealbreaker but by saying that you are one you are not doing yourself any favors. And it's completely understandable given the amounts of idiots that come here to "teach". Real teachers (with a degree) teaching at real schools (i.e. not cram schools) are respected just fine.

[RichieP]

Great advice Leighton. That salary is what a typical doctor earns in Thailand too.

I'd add that so much of it is about YOUR vibe and how you position yourself and frame things.

If you're an awesome, together dude with style, game, resources, and attractive vibe, do you honestly think the two sentences that come out of your mouth about your profession are going to be a deal-breaker? It might raise an eyebrow but if you're obviously oozing value she'll rationalise it as "well.. nooo he's not like those guys... he's a COOL teacher...", even if the profession has a dubious rep in that country.

[Bushido]

Who cares about if something is a respected job or not? Some of you guys are thinking in a provider frame.

For what it's worth, most of the top players I knew in Japan taught English. They had more time to game and more time to bang.

No Japanese girls gave a shit about my business job. Wasn't a plus or a minus. So I never talked about it, except to the LTRs.

I suspect if a Korean girl didn't dig you, it had nothing to do with your being a teacher. Same goes for the Taiwanese.

Asian girls are increasingly no different to girls back home. They just want to get fucked by sexy guys who understand the game.

[berserk]

(02-19-2015 08:11 AM)The Beast1 Wrote:  

God forbid someone make friends with a social group and meet new women that way. Cavemen game is for easy women and dumb men (with all due respect).

All women respond well to caveman game, nothing to do with intelligence. Caveman game is just being physical, touching, taking up space, being dominant, but it is of course not about being threathening, quite the opposite, a combination of being playfull and physically direct. It's very effective because it's basically foreplay and how I assume most guys get from couch to sex anyway. It also quickly screens out girls who are not dtf that night. It has nothing to do with drunken stuttering grab ass game.

It's just that it's only socially possible to do in a couple of cultures, where social shame isn't as much of a factor. Most Asians wouldn't be caught dead doing an approach and handle rejection very poorly and girls hate being put on the spot by a bold approach in front of their friends because they are then caught between being seen a slut and having to shoot someone down (make them lose face), which they don't like either. Make no mistake though, get her on vacation or in a late night club and she responds just as well to that direct physical approach.

[RichieP]

BOOM. This is totally bang on.

(02-19-2015 10:52 AM)dreambig Wrote:  

Who cares about if something is a respected job or not? Some of you guys are thinking in a provider frame.

For what it's worth, most of the top players I knew in Japan taught English. They had more time to game and more time to bang.

No Japanese girls gave a shit about my business job. Wasn't a plus or a minus. So I never talked about it, except to the LTRs.

I suspect if a Korean girl didn't dig you, it had nothing to do with your being a teacher. Same goes for the Taiwanese.

Asian girls are increasingly no different to girls back home. They just want to get fucked by sexy guys who understand the game.

[RichieP]

That's actually a really good observation. Never heard it put into words quite like that, but its totally on point. This is the crucial understanding to calibrating your approach game in Asia.

(02-19-2015 11:03 AM)berserk Wrote:  

[Most Asians wouldn't be caught dead doing an approach and handle rejection very poorly and girls hate being put on the spot by a bold approach in front of their friends because they are then caught between being seen a slut and having to shoot someone down (make them lose face), which they don't like either.