Quote: (02-04-2015 02:48 PM)speakeasy Wrote:
Quote: (02-04-2015 01:41 PM)TravelerKai Wrote:
Quote: (02-04-2015 01:26 PM)speakeasy Wrote:
So what do you think was witnessed over Los Angeles during WWII?
I have no idea. The military said the problem was that they opened fire on weather ballons. That could have been one branch of the military shit testing another's readiness. Who knows.
It wasn't a real battle though. A battle would imply fighting between two sides. This was a one sided thing as far as I know.
You could not convince me that it was aliens in UFOs though. You would need some kind of physical evidence to substantiate that. Something UFO conspiracy hunters can never get.
But surely even a skeptic has to see the strong possibility that the default weather balloon explanation is thrown out so that civilians don't panic. Common sense says it clearly couldn't be a weather balloon because no weather balloon can survive thousands of rounds of anti-aircraft fire. Anyone that really believes that was a balloon sounds like the one that needs to be wearing the tin foil.
We know it wasn't the Japanese. They have no records of any aircraft flying over the west coast. And at that time, the only aircraft that could silently fly over a city at very low speed was a zeppelin and that would've been destroyed instantly in the barrage of fire. Not to mention it would probably not have flown all the way across the Pacific unnoticed.
One branch of the military testing the readiness of the other branch with a secret spy plane? A saucer shaped craft that can fly without the use of jets or propellers and can't be shot down? I don't believe one branch would do something like that against the other branch. Especially over a major city where shrapnel is likely to get civilians killed. And if we had this type of technology in the 1940s, why are we still in 2015 using fighter jets? Wouldn't this have been handy to use in Vietnam or the Gulf Wars?
I don't buy any of the government's explanations, they are so transparent that they really insult anyone's intelligence.
You make it sound like their rounds actually hit anything at all. Where is the proof of that? No confirmed kills, hits, etc. Eyewitnesses talking about a saucer shape does not equate to any real proof.
How do you know that whatever was shot down was not picked up by the USAF afterwards? There are several documented UFO sightings/events where government people came ad retrieved things.
If you want to talk about flight technology, do not mistake "saucer shape" for "advanced technology". Something without wings is not automatically better than something without wings. An entire field of advanced aeronautics and ballistics (Rocket Science basically) exists to improve flight of objects without wings.
Have you ever heard of the U-2 spy plane project? The prototypes of the many U-2 types have caused many sightings. Some of this did not become somewhat official until pretty recently. The U-2 projects was also older than many think they are.
NASA was a front for ICBM missile technology and Star Wars initiatives, in order to defeat the Soviet Union. Exploration was always second. They toyed with many prototypes in the skies. Since ICBMs are perfected more or less, and companies like Raytheon provide the bulk of the research, NASA isn't needed as much. Everyone thinking it was just a fight between Republicans and Democrats are falling for the okeydoke.
If aliens existed, why do they only seem to interact with the government? Why do people who claim they were visited often recall their experiences in dreams or during sleep? I cannot analyze stuff like this as a historic or factual record of evidence. I won't call it bullshit, but I cannot say it has any weight.
The sheer amount of tangible pieces of evidence of alien existence that no one can produce is staggering. Few other topics in human history have anywhere near the amount of vagueness that UFO/alien claims do. I cannot think of anything else off the top of my head. Even evidence of ghosts and spirits have tons of evidence that can be looked at and studied. Especially in the past 5 years. Aliens? Nothing. Just low resolution saucer shape photos in the sky with no distance references at best.
When the US govt. is the only entity that fully knows what is UFO/alien or not, that should set off your bullshit alarm that they are playing with toys they do not want you to know about. If you think about it, putting flashing lights and shiny round metal on flying things makes it harder for your enemies to see what it really is and makes eye witnesses look like idiots for telling anyone what they just saw.
I live in Houston. Ellington Air Force Base is very close by. They on rare occasions fly a ton of Apaches out at night and scare the shit out of everyone. Sometimes they are not painted black either. Sometimes during the daytime you see stuff. I have seen silver bullet looking objects flying as fast as a missile with rainbow like lights. There are many other places in the US that are near bases that run strange ops all the time. Doesn't mean it's extraterrestrial. It just means the military industrial complex is still running strong.
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