[Jevioso]

American women are united in ensuring that a happy man and a feminine woman do not have the opportunity to coexist in a happy marriage smh.

[Paracelsus]

(12-31-2014 09:34 AM)PUA_Rachacha Wrote:  

Renner's probably gay, and there were a lot of gay rumours swirling about him a few years back. This is likely the reason that he quickly married a beard.

She's citing fraud in the divorce papers, so it's probably because he's gay and never really wanted a legit marriage. I wouldn't be surprised if the kid is not even directly related to him.

Besides the prenup, there's got to be a confidentiality/non-disclosure agreement that she signed. But I think he'll pay her off handsomely just to ensure that she doesn't spill all the beans.

To me the thing that doesn't gel with that is his reticence to return her passport. There can't be any reason he'd still want her in the US - the only rationale I can think of for that position is because he doesn't want her to run with a daughter that's biologically his. If it's his daughter, the reticence to return the ex's passport is explainable; if it's not his daughter, why would he give a shit? If he wants to maintain The Masquerade, better form to move on quick-smart to another twentysomething than try and play the divorced single father.

[Troll King]

(12-31-2014 09:34 AM)PUA_Rachacha Wrote:  

Renner's probably gay, and there were a lot of gay rumours swirling about him a few years back. This is likely the reason that he quickly married a beard.

She's citing fraud in the divorce papers, so it's probably because he's gay and never really wanted a legit marriage. I wouldn't be surprised if the kid is not even directly related to him.

Besides the prenup, there's got to be a confidentiality/non-disclosure agreement that she signed. But I think he'll pay her off handsomely just to ensure that she doesn't spill all the beans.

I don't get all this talk about being gay and beards with respect to actors. It would make sense with someone like Clooney or Renner if they were politicians maybe, but they are actors.

If any of these guys came out of the closet tomorrow I doubt their careers would be noticeably harmed. Especially not in the long run. Hell, in some ways I am surprised they haven't faked being gay to get some bumps to their publicity after a movie flops.

Being gay is the new black these days. At first I thought that maybe, especially with Clooney, it might hurt their image with women but look at some of the other actors who are openly gay and still get huge responses from women fans. The dude who played Spock in the last few Star Trek remakes is gay, and he was on Heroes too, and he has a huge female following. They write gay fanfiction about him.

Now, it might make a bit more sense with Clooney or Cruise seeing how they often play action heroes for a mostly male audience but still. Hell, even if they did lose money due to that reason they would probably make it up very quickly by simply becoming a figure head for some gay oriented leftist cause...which they all seem to do in Hollywood anyways.

[enderilluminatus]

That's a recent development and most major actors have been established since it would have been a career ruining move. Maybe Travolta and Cruise aren't actually gay, but a lot of people are absolutely convinced they are.

[Phoenix]

Can you imagine this with normal contracts though? Businesses contracting to trade specific work under specific terms for a specific price, and judges just randomly throwing out the contracts and modifying them from the bench? The commercial world would be in chaos.

It's fucking ridiculous that a man and woman can agree on terms for a marriage, and then when they have a conflict, the agreement doesn't apply. That's the whole purpose of an "agreement". I hope they enforce this one to the letter.

Perhaps the courts should offer declaratory judgements, so men can present their prenup, ask "you douchebags are going to enforce this right?", and get a clear and binding "yes we will" response.

[Paracelsus]

It comes down to frequency. In the commercial world where I'm from courts will rarely overturn provisions of contracts that they don't see as fair despite the terms of the agreement being explicit.

This seems to happen most in cases of employment contracts, where the image is always the big employer overbearing the small employee. A similar stereotype drives the thinking here I would guess. Some legal niceties and buzzwords such as "unconscionable" and "equity" come into it, but ultimately it comes down to the court taking one person's side over the other because of perceived imbalance in the contractual relationship.


In that sense it's hair-tearingly frustrating when it comes to pre-nups, then: the court intervenes on the woman's part because it's operating on an old image of the woman as tiny, powerless, and unable to look after herself because of the kid hanging off her tit.

[PUA_Rachacha]

(12-31-2014 09:34 AM)PUA_Rachacha Wrote:  

Renner's probably gay, and there were a lot of gay rumours swirling about him a few years back. This is likely the reason that he quickly married a beard.

She's citing fraud in the divorce papers, so it's probably because he's gay and never really wanted a legit marriage. I wouldn't be surprised if the kid is not even directly related to him.

Besides the prenup, there's got to be a confidentiality/non-disclosure agreement that she signed. But I think he'll pay her off handsomely just to ensure that she doesn't spill all the beans.

I'll follow up with this story. It appears that Renner and his ex are slinging mud as the divorce proceedings heat up.

Recently Renner had his "roommate" come to his defense. His "roommate" said that Renner's wife is an unfit mother and even contemplated abortion multiple times. His "roommate" also insists that Pacheco only married Renner for his green card.

Link to article

Blind Gossip had some pretty funny posts on the whole "roommate" sham:

The Roommate Diaries Part 1

The Roommate Diaries Part 2

Renner should just settle. I'm sure she wasn't the nicest person, but she'll expose your entire lie. Being a gay action hero in Hollywood would be an uphill challenge for him.

I had a gay boss at my work who hadn't yet come out of the closet. He would refer to his gay lover as a roommate. Once he dropped the roommate line I and everyone else knew. I guess Renner's boyfriend didn't realize that using the word roommate is a clear hint that they're gay.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(04-08-2015 02:16 PM)PUA_Rachacha Wrote:  

I'll follow up with this story. It appears that Renner and his ex are slinging mud as the divorce proceedings heat up.

Recently Renner had his "roommate" come to his defense. His "roommate" said that Renner's wife is an unfit mother and even contemplated abortion multiple times. His "roommate" also insists that Pacheco only married Renner for his green card.

Link to article

Blind Gossip had some pretty funny posts on the whole "roommate" sham:

There are some guys in Hollywood who lived together in big houses because they threw so many parties that they spent most of the time together anyway and it was easier to bang more girls.

But if he lived with his wife AND a male roommate then that's of course an entirely different story. The explanation of "doing orgies and shit together" won't cut it anymore.

But alas - who knows really.... according to the media half Hollywood is gay.

[TheSlayer]

(04-08-2015 02:16 PM)PUA_Rachacha Wrote:  

Being a gay action hero in Hollywood would be an uphill challenge for him.

In 2015? No way. He will become an even bigger star in my opinion immediately. Hell even if he doesn't get action roles after this he will have plenty of work.

That being said I don't buy that most of the A-list actors are gay.

[N°6]

(12-30-2014 06:43 PM)Dark Knowledge Wrote:  

Whores gonna whore

I've more respect for crack whores.

[8ball]

With the Success of the Return of Kings and Reaxxion i think the next thing should be a red pill version Deadline/Variety/Hollywood Reporter.

You can find 20 times more article material in TV shows, films, award shows then you can for games. The focus would revolve around media indoctrination, gold digging, SJW twitter mobs etc.

[AnonymousBosch]

(04-08-2015 02:25 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

But if he lived with his wife AND a male roommate then that's of course an entirely different story. The explanation of "doing orgies and shit together" won't cut it anymore.

The roommate in question. Seems legit.

[Game_Started]

(04-08-2015 02:29 PM)TheSlayer Wrote:  

(04-08-2015 02:16 PM)PUA_Rachacha Wrote:  

Being a gay action hero in Hollywood would be an uphill challenge for him.

In 2015? No way. He will become an even bigger star in my opinion immediately. Hell even if he doesn't get action roles after this he will have plenty of work.

That being said I don't buy that most of the A-list actors are gay.

Nah. It's not like that. Actors would be coming out the woodwork (pun intended?) if that were true. The only openly gay actors I know of are Neil Patrick Harris and Zachary Quinto and neither one gets leading man work. Doogie does the comedy stuff and hosting the Oscars which is and Quinto plays non-romantic, dare I say even asexual, roles (Spock). Openly gay actors do not and would not get the juicy parts, which makes sense. Women can accept a straight man playing a gay role. He's still a man after all. But they can't accept a gay man playing a straight role. It doesn't sell. They see themselves as the love interest of the male and if he's REALLY gay, the fantasy doesn't sell.

With us men as well, if the actor is openly gay he doesn't sell well as an action hero or manly dude. Female actresses suffer as well unless they're extremely hot and claim bisexuality (Amber Heard). No one wants to bang Ellen Page.

[TheSlayer]

(04-08-2015 08:26 PM)Game_Started Wrote:  

(04-08-2015 02:29 PM)TheSlayer Wrote:  

(04-08-2015 02:16 PM)PUA_Rachacha Wrote:  

Being a gay action hero in Hollywood would be an uphill challenge for him.

In 2015? No way. He will become an even bigger star in my opinion immediately. Hell even if he doesn't get action roles after this he will have plenty of work.

That being said I don't buy that most of the A-list actors are gay.

Nah. It's not like that. Actors would be coming out the woodwork (pun intended?) if that were true. The only openly gay actors I know of are Neil Patrick Harris and Zachary Quinto and neither one gets leading man work. Doogie does the comedy stuff and hosting the Oscars which is and Quinto plays non-romantic, dare I say even asexual, roles (Spock). Openly gay actors do not and would not get the juicy parts, which makes sense. Women can accept a straight man playing a gay role. He's still a man after all. But they can't accept a gay man playing a straight role. It doesn't sell. They see themselves as the love interest of the male and if he's REALLY gay, the fantasy doesn't sell.

With us men as well, if the actor is openly gay he doesn't sell well as an action hero or manly dude. Female actresses suffer as well unless they're extremely hot and claim bisexuality (Amber Heard). No one wants to bang Ellen Page.

Neil Patrick Harris has been openly gay forever and was a main character on How I Met Your Mother which was a pretty popular show. His character on the show was a PUA of sorts and he was a pretty popular character as well. Again, this is 2015. Hell even I wouldn't give a crap if he really was gay. Not that I am a Renner fan but if he made a good movie I would still go watch it as long as he wasn't pushing some SJW crap in it. Ellen Page's problem isn't that she's lesbian, it's that she's a plain 6. If she were as hot as Amber Heard and a lesbian, she would still find work.

[AnonymousBosch]

(04-08-2015 08:40 PM)TheSlayer Wrote:  

Neil Patrick Harris has been openly gay forever and was a main character on How I Met Your Mother which was a pretty popular show.

Has he ever carried a leading role where he was deliberately sold as a sex symbol to women?

A body language rule of thumb I have from observing the gay guys I know on my Facebook Feed:

- Straight men understand where the camera is have a detectable level of indifference to it. They usually project some degree of strength or stoicism. This is unrelated to being a 'pretty boy'. I went with some notable pretty boys here:

I'll do some image searching on Google as I obviously can't use my friends for illustration.









- Gay men are more like women, so go out of their way to 'look sexy', where they start thinking about where their cheeks and lips are and how the viewer will interpret their gaze and dammit, they want be sex objects, so they start pulling weird poses based on divas and end eye fucking the camera. The result isn't the projection of strength, but female submission: "Fuck me!" It's hilarious.

These are all Gay Facebook Profile Pics:







Chick eyes and sultriness. Jackman's breathy mouth is ridiculously-feminine. It's hilarious. No wonder he had a 'Business Partner' who lived on his estate with his wife and kids, whom shared wedding rings with both of them.

I have never seen those three actors generate any detectable heat with their co-stars.

[OkStudies]

AnonBosch all of those men so far as we know are straight, not only that they are almost all considered sex symbols to women. Kind of bad examples to make your somewhat over-generalized point. A great deal of straight men have no clue how to appear masculine and usually end up looking like carichatures or falling into silly stereotypes.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(04-09-2015 12:07 AM)OkStudies Wrote:  

AnonBosch all of those men so far as we know are straight, not only that they are almost all considered sex symbols to women. Kind of bad examples to make your somewhat over-generalized point. A great deal of straight men have no clue how to appear masculine and usually end up looking like carichatures or falling into silly stereotypes.

Actors on photo-shoots get poses chosen by the photographers, the studios or magazine.

Yes - what kind of Facebook profile you pick personally as a non-celebrity may be a tip, but just assuming that the Walking Dead star is actually gay, while being married since 2006 is interesting:



Big Hollywood stars may have the money and the massive fame to keep a for-show wife well paid and satisfied, but a minor TV actor who barely began to have some second tier jobs in 2006? That's very much to ask for a woman from an actor who does not make 7 digits.

[Suits]

(04-09-2015 02:44 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

To be fair, he is standing next to a man who appears to be his sexual partner in this photograph.

[Game_Started]

(04-08-2015 08:40 PM)TheSlayer Wrote:  

Neil Patrick Harris has been openly gay forever and was a main character on How I Met Your Mother which was a pretty popular show. His character on the show was a PUA of sorts and he was a pretty popular character as well. Again, this is 2015. Hell even I wouldn't give a crap if he really was gay. Not that I am a Renner fan but if he made a good movie I would still go watch it as long as he wasn't pushing some SJW crap in it. Ellen Page's problem isn't that she's lesbian, it's that she's a plain 6. If she were as hot as Amber Heard and a lesbian, she would still find work.

Doogie came out in 2006, hardly 'openly gay forever.' Even before Harold & Kumar (which resurrected his career) he was in the closet. And yes, HIMYM is a popular show but his character is a caricature of a player. It's a comedy. He would do it really well whether he were gay or straight.

But he'll never play the action hero or romantic love interest opposite a woman in a serious main role. It won't sell. Straight women would not buy him as a love interest because they put themselves in the role of the woman, and they know hes gay!

I just don't understand the logic in thinking that coming out would increase someones ability to get work. If it were true, actors would be tripping over themselves coming out just to get more work! It's the opposite, it limits them. Why do you think actors shoot down gay rumors all the time?

[Game_Started]

(04-09-2015 02:44 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

Never heard any gay rumors about Andrew Lincoln, but it probably comes from him being British. They come off pretty effeminate, look at Jude Law. Some Southerners (here in the US) come off a bit effeminate too but they're straight.

[TheSlayer]

(04-09-2015 03:11 PM)Game_Started Wrote:  

(04-08-2015 08:40 PM)TheSlayer Wrote:  

Neil Patrick Harris has been openly gay forever and was a main character on How I Met Your Mother which was a pretty popular show. His character on the show was a PUA of sorts and he was a pretty popular character as well. Again, this is 2015. Hell even I wouldn't give a crap if he really was gay. Not that I am a Renner fan but if he made a good movie I would still go watch it as long as he wasn't pushing some SJW crap in it. Ellen Page's problem isn't that she's lesbian, it's that she's a plain 6. If she were as hot as Amber Heard and a lesbian, she would still find work.

Doogie came out in 2006, hardly 'openly gay forever.' Even before Harold & Kumar (which resurrected his career) he was in the closet. And yes, HIMYM is a popular show but his character is a caricature of a player. It's a comedy. He would do it really well whether he were gay or straight.

But he'll never play the action hero or romantic love interest opposite a woman in a serious main role. It won't sell. Straight women would not buy him as a love interest because they put themselves in the role of the woman, and they know hes gay!

I just don't understand the logic in thinking that coming out would increase someones ability to get work. If it were true, actors would be tripping over themselves coming out just to get more work! It's the opposite, it limits them. Why do you think actors shoot down gay rumors all the time?

And how different is the climate in 2015 compared to 2006? It's only 9 years ago but the climate for gay rights and gay SJW-ism has gotten exponentially better since then.

Again, I am one of those who doesn't believe that most A-list actors are gay rumors.

My point was that Renner might not find action roles anymore but by no means would his career be destroyed if he actually did come out as gay. He may not get the same roles anymore but he would still be finding decent work. And let me clarify one more point, coming out may or may not increase his ability to get work but it would definitely make him more celebrated in the media and raise his profile as a celebrity. That's for sure.

[PUA_Rachacha]

(04-09-2015 03:18 PM)TheSlayer Wrote:  

And how different is the climate in 2015 compared to 2006? It's only 9 years ago but the climate for gay rights and gay SJW-ism has gotten exponentially better since then.

Again, I am one of those who doesn't believe that most A-list actors are gay rumors.

My point was that Renner might not find action roles anymore but by no means would his career be destroyed if he actually did come out as gay. He may not get the same roles anymore but he would still be finding decent work. And let me clarify one more point, coming out may or may not increase his ability to get work but it would definitely make him more celebrated in the media and raise his profile as a celebrity. That's for sure.

There's only downside for him coming out, little upside. His dream of becoming an A-List actor (he's not there yet IMHO) would be cast aside since he wouldn't get the juiciest roles, i.e., a hunk for the female audience or the bad ass for the male audience. He would also lose out on a lot of money.

Do you think Clooney would've done as well if he had come out 20 years ago? 10 years ago? Even 5 years ago? Fuck no. He's stilled idolized by so many women and men as an Alpha stud and will still garner plenty of leading roles.

Renner clearly married this woman to shroud his gayness. He even impregnated her, but I think a paternity test is now in order given this roommate fiasco BS. Dude is definitely not coming out of the closet anytime soon because he wants to become the next Clooney/Willis/Schwarzenegger/Pitt.

Don't underestimate someone who wants to become King of the Heap. Especially if the Heap is Hollywood.

[Veloce]

I used to work with a chick who was banging Renner.

I'm not saying he doesn't do dudes. That Hollywood crowd is pretty wacky.

[Grange]

(04-08-2015 08:26 PM)Game_Started Wrote:  

With us men as well, if the actor is openly gay he doesn't sell well as an action hero or manly dude. Female actresses suffer as well unless they're extremely hot and claim bisexuality (Amber Heard). No one wants to bang Ellen Page.

I don't know where you get that from.

[TheSlayer]

(04-09-2015 03:30 PM)PUA_Rachacha Wrote:  

(04-09-2015 03:18 PM)TheSlayer Wrote:  

And how different is the climate in 2015 compared to 2006? It's only 9 years ago but the climate for gay rights and gay SJW-ism has gotten exponentially better since then.

Again, I am one of those who doesn't believe that most A-list actors are gay rumors.

My point was that Renner might not find action roles anymore but by no means would his career be destroyed if he actually did come out as gay. He may not get the same roles anymore but he would still be finding decent work. And let me clarify one more point, coming out may or may not increase his ability to get work but it would definitely make him more celebrated in the media and raise his profile as a celebrity. That's for sure.

There's only downside for him coming out, little upside. His dream of becoming an A-List actor (he's not there yet IMHO) would be cast aside since he wouldn't get the juiciest roles, i.e., a hunk for the female audience or the bad ass for the male audience. He would also lose out on a lot of money.

Do you think Clooney would've done as well if he had come out 20 years ago? 10 years ago? Even 5 years ago? Fuck no. He's stilled idolized by so many women and men as an Alpha stud and will still garner plenty of leading roles.

Renner clearly married this woman to shroud his gayness. He even impregnated her, but I think a paternity test is now in order given this roommate fiasco BS. Dude is definitely not coming out of the closet anytime soon because he wants to become the next Clooney/Willis/Schwarzenegger/Pitt.

Don't underestimate someone who wants to become King of the Heap. Especially if the Heap is Hollywood.

You seem pretty convinced that he's gay...I don't think he is and don't really care either way.

And obviously Clooney or another gay actor wouldn't have done as well if they came out 20 years ago vs. now in 2015 when we are at peak gay SJW-ism.