[monster]

According to the NYPOST (http://pagesix.com/2014/12/27/tim-burton...a-year-ago) about Tim Burton & Helena Bonham Carter (who just split after 12 years or so):

Quote:

In the UK, they were nicknamed “Mr. and Mrs. Mad Hatter” after they bought two houses next to each other. They lived in each separately but joined the homes with a communal room.

Bonham Carter had said of the unusual arrangement: “It really is a great idea. You never have to compromise emotionally or feel invaded.”

I thought this was really interesting and wanted to see your thoughts on this. I'm a definitely an introvert and a bit of a loner and I really need 2-3 hours of alone time per day to "recharge" myself. Even when I'm dating a girl I really like and she comes over to spend the weekend with me, I grow extremely antsy and craving some time away by Sunday. I'll take a long walk or drive and leave her alone in my home and she thinks its something she did when I just need space to myself. I try explaining this but they never understand. I've never had a live-in gf and honestly I'm not sure I could given my introverted personality 'defect' unless it was a large home with distinct spaces.

I thought what Burton-Carter did is really cool. I'm not sure it would sit well with most girls, but where I'm at in my life right now - sort of knowing my limits and what works for me and what doesn't - I think if I were to get married this would be the way I would want to go.

Your thoughts?

[Roosh]

Quote:

It really is a great idea. You never have to compromise emotionally or feel invaded

That's called being single.

[Paracelsus]

You have to have time out in a LTR, or indeed any relationship with a woman. If you don't you'll go completely potty within four weeks. The old ideal was that it was the man's house which the woman was a guest in; this is simply making the "man-cave" into a whole fucking house connected by a brick umbilicus, not a perfectly balanced relationship.

Bonham-Carter says she doesn't feel compromised emotionally or "invaded" by the arrangement (wonder what Burton shooting his sperm in her at least twice was, then) which is fucking twisted shit given feminine women actually are prepared to compromise and let the male assume the lead - it's feminism in a minor key.

Burton's always been a bit of a nutcase and clearly this arrangement didn't work since he and Bonham Carter pulled the pin more than a year ago.

And in passing, Burton is still a fucking nutcase because he broke up with Bonham Carter for a 39 year old mother with a 9 year old son, who was his production assistant.

Okay, the guy is 61, and he might not have Johnny Vampire's swagger or looks, but he's worth $80 million. If he's going to do a Hugh Hefner, at least go for a pussy that pushes back.

[Onto]

Marriage used to be an event that would help a person grow spiritually because they would have to give up their individualistic, egotistical demands and desires for something larger than themselves.

The man husbands his resources and time for the good of the family. He sacrifices (giving up something to make another thing sacred). In turn she surrenders herself completely to him.

When I hear Bonham-Carter say she loves the idea of not having to compromise or feel invaded, I'm not surprised her marriage failed.

I think the need for distance and personal space can be had without having a separate individual life like it appears they did.

[Paracelsus]

(12-28-2014 10:30 PM)Onto Wrote:  

Marriage used to be an event that would help a person grow spiritually because they would have to give up their individualistic, egotistical demands and desires for the something larger than themselves.

The man husbands his resources and time for the good of the family. He sacrifices (giving up something to makes another thing sacred). In turn she surrenders herself completely to him.

When I hear Bonham-Carter say she loves the idea of not having to compromise or feel invaded, I'm not surprised her marriage failed.

They never married, one might note.

[Luvianka]

They are Hollywood celebrities, they can afford this way of living. As Faulkner said: 'Let me tell you about the very rich. They are different from you and me'.

[Paracelsus]

(12-28-2014 10:34 PM)Luvianka Wrote:  

They are Hollywood celebrities, they can afford this way of living. As Faulkner said: 'Let me tell you about the very rich. They are different from you and me'.

As an addendum, as one of the guys from Aerosmith said: "We had reached that dangerous point in our career when we could afford all our vices."

[monster]

(12-28-2014 10:30 PM)Onto Wrote:  

I think the need for distance and personal space can be had without having a separate individual life like it appears they did.

How have you done it?

[samsamsam]

(12-28-2014 11:01 PM)monster Wrote:  

(12-28-2014 10:30 PM)Onto Wrote:  

I think the need for distance and personal space can be had without having a separate individual life like it appears they did.

How have you done it?

[Onto]

(12-28-2014 11:01 PM)monster Wrote:  

(12-28-2014 10:30 PM)Onto Wrote:  

I think the need for distance and personal space can be had without having a separate individual life like it appears they did.

How have you done it?

I've never been married, but I have had lived with women 3 times in my life. For me, personal space can be satisfied by simply being in another room for a while doing a hobby.

If I were to put a perfect image on it, we would both be working outside on the house in the summer. Doing landscaping, painting, etc. She would be in the back, I would be in the front and we would work our way to the middle and reunite in an embrace for a while and then go off separately to continue our work on our home. Re-uniting again and again throughout the day.

It's a different kind of personal space from that of doing separate individual activities that are perhaps away from the home and the marriage.

My need for personal space may not be as much as others.

[The Father]

(12-28-2014 10:20 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

Quote:

It really is a great idea. You never have to compromise emotionally or feel invaded

That's called being single.

I'll bet Tim purchased BOTH homes...

[The Father]

(12-28-2014 11:18 PM)Onto Wrote:  

(12-28-2014 11:01 PM)monster Wrote:  

(12-28-2014 10:30 PM)Onto Wrote:  

I think the need for distance and personal space can be had without having a separate individual life like it appears they did.

How have you done it?

I've never been married, but I have had lived with women 3 times in my life. For me, personal space can be satisfied by simply being in another room for a while doing a hobby.

If I were to put a perfect image on it, we would both be working outside on the house in the summer. Doing landscaping, painting, etc. She would be in the back, I would be in the front and we would work our way to the middle and reunite in an embrace for a while and then go off separately to continue our work on our home. Re-uniting again and again throughout the day.

It's a different kind of personal space from that of doing separate individual activities that are perhaps away from the home and the marriage.

My need for personal space may not be as much as others.

What you said sounds nice, but it is TOTALLY at odds with what most women want. In fact, "you do the back i'll do the front" is simply a variation on the division of labor most guys crave, and most women abhor. "I'll go to work; you stay home and raise the kids and cook". Or, "I'll take care of the OUTSIDE of the house, you take care of the INSIDE of the house". Division of labor is what made homo sapiens rise above other creatures...it elevated us. BUT, women don't like it...they want to "be a team!". They BOTH want to work in the back, and then both in the front. The fact that she can't work as well or as fast as you simply means she ends up getting under your feet. And feeling inferior. Which she is, in all practical matters! BUT, when it comes to "connecting" with your kids or the neighbors or as a couple, she excels. But feminism has taught women that sticking to their bread and butter is somehow "oppression". Such B.S.

[Quintus Curtius]

(12-28-2014 10:20 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

Quote:

It really is a great idea. You never have to compromise emotionally or feel invaded

That's called being single.