Quote: (04-21-2011 03:18 PM)KickBomber Wrote:
I've done over 200 street approaches in the Union Square area (NYC), with 2 dates with one girl to show for it. And about 20 numbers that went nowhere. I've been going direct with 95% of these.
I'm really starting to get frustrated, because I don't know why my results are so horrible. When I say those numbers don't go anywhere, I mean that at least 13 or 14 of them never even responded to texts/calls. And except for one girl, I never saw any of those again. And that one girl gave me an approach invitation by smiling, so as far as cold approaches go, I have an absolute 0% success rate.
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The more I read on forums about people who do daygame, they make it sound so easy, like the girls are more receptive, and numbers flake less, and that has DEFINITELY not been my experience. I'm better at conversations now for sure, but the rate I get numbers at (1 out of every 10 approaches), hasn't changed at all, and the girl I got a date with was 100 approaches ago.
Are any of these people who claim day game is easy, are they doing this NYC? Anybody who claims getting laid in NYC by high quality women using day game is easy and they aren't posting specific venue/techniques/niche is full of shit. Getting consistent high quality bangs out of cold approaching in Manhattan is something that very few guys can actually pull off. Shit, even Justyn Wayne whose stomping grounds is Union Square admitted in his blog that doing what he does is not something that everybody can do. Also, if you look at most of his Lay Reports, most of the chicks there are either tourist or new immigrants so you might try targeting that niche of girls.
Don't get me wrong, you should still campaign like Obama in Union Square but just don't put so much emotional stake in it. In a place like as large as NYC, venue and niches trumps body language/routines/ etc any time. There are guys with zero game(default macking) who still get laid like a champs just because they are at the right place at the right time. Don't just go randomly to any public space to waste your time. I don't know how long you have been living in city so I am going to give you 4 specific tips for day gaming. You can thank me later.
1. Its getting warm out, go to NYC parks and recreation dept website(
http://www.nycgovparks.org/) and look for the event calendars to find out where different events are being held. Every weekend something or somebody is going to have an event. Anything "ethic" is good to go, Just make sure you read up on the country the event is about. Opener:
"Hey, Are you from (specific city/region) by any chance? its been a while since I have been there ...."
2. Personally I find Subways and train stations tough spots to game, girls are always on guard for unsavory characters like purse snatchers, homeless, guetto slashers and booty grabbers. Also the subway attracts a lot of perverts who like to rub on girls and like to jerk off in front of them. Plus trains are too damn noisy and come in too frequently to get any kind of rapport going. Instead hit up the Staten Island ferry. It looks less menacing, chicks dig water and boats so they already in a good mood and you know you have 30 minutes to spit your best game before the next boat arrives. Opener:
"excuse, do you know where do I pay for the ferry?" *(the ferry is free, this quick test to find out if shes a tourist.)
3. Hit up double decker tour buses and cruises. Tourist chicks are seldom alone so make sure your isolation Game is tight. Hang out(instant date) with group after the tour and work on your target. Your whole goal should be to make her and her friends feel like you are not going to take the pussy so she would trust you enough to hang out without her friends. Stay away from Time Square if you are a minority. TS is filled with touts who are mostly BlackLatino, it doesn't take long before a tourist chick thinks that every Brotha who is approaching her there is trying to sell her something or a shitty comedy show. Opener:
"Hi, What did he said about(whatever building the tour guide spoke about)?"
4. This is not really Day Game tip per se but will help you stop wasting your hard earned money on cock infested clubs. On the back of the free weekly paper Village Voice there are literally dozens of concert/shows featuring some obscure or has been shitty indie/jazz/metal/Rap artist or band. Those shows attract a lot of ALT chicks who tend to put out on the first date. The shows tend to be in the middle of the week and early in the evening so you don't have to waste a weekend with the fellas to try something new. Opener: "
hey, What's your favorite Special Ed(or name of the artist) album?"