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12-03-2014, 10:29 AM
If I have children, I don't think I want to impose the myth of Santa Claus on them. I'd rather tell them the truth about Christmas. What's wrong with them associating it simply with a time when the family gets together, exchanges gifts (only that they can easily afford) and eats a traditional winter feast?
Also, I'd probably get shitloads of calls from school and parents complaining that my kids had upset everyone by telling them that Santa Claus doesn't exist, so there's the potential for some lulz there, too.
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12-03-2014, 11:57 AM
If they told me the Näcken looked like that, I probably would've taken my chances.
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12-03-2014, 12:17 PM
Quote: (12-03-2014 12:02 PM)Chaos Wrote:
^ Well, he could also look like this.
You Scandinavians just have to ruin everything, don't you?
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12-03-2014, 12:30 PM
My relatives also warned me about sideway pussies for Asians...
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12-03-2014, 02:21 PM
Santa is great. Let kids bask in their imagination, innocence, and naivety of believing in him. Don't steal that away from them like Western society has stolen pretty much all innocent joys of childhood. Their belief in Santa will only last until about 9-years old, anyway. If done right, Santa and Christmas festivities will give children fond and lasting memories until the day they die. It's cruel to needlessly crush them with reality earlier than necessary. With those fun and innocent childhood memories, when your kids are adults they'll do the same for their kids. Thus passing down traditions; and in a way sustaining culture.
I have my 2 boys write letters to Santa and as an added touch I write Santa letters back. I also give them a nice build-up to Christmas by letting them wake up to a present they can each open (boring, cheap presents labeled from mom/dad) each of the 3 morning before Christmas. Also do the usual watching of Christmas movies and cartoons from Thanksgiving night until Christmas Eve to keep stoking the spirit, burning memories into their minds, and creating traditions they'll pass down the line.
I do pick my battles, though. Had to say most Santas they see aren't real and that they're just helping Santa out because he's so busy up in the North Pole... also said Rudolph and Frosty aren't real when asked to not damage my credibility on Santa being real. The only thing missing for my kids is the snow and cold that adds a lot to the whole Christmastime spirit.
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12-03-2014, 02:28 PM
I remember my brother was way too old, like middle school, before he learned the Easter Bunny wasnt real. He just like looked devatated and went into his room alone upset for a long time. Must have been a real wakeup call...
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12-03-2014, 02:32 PM
I will tell my children about Santa.
I have great fond memories of wondering what Santa will bring me when I was a kid, going through the huge Sears Christmas "wishlist" catalogs, circling the one thing I wanted Santa to get me, then giving it to my parents so they could inform him.
It was such a great feeling waking up Christmas morning, full of wonder and excitement and joy to see what Santa had brought. If I remember correctly, we did the whole Santa thing, milk and cookies on the fireplace mantle, going to bed early so as not to scare him away.
I can still feel those feelings if I recall hard enough, great times as a kid full of wonderment and believing whatever my parents told me.
There were other "lies", but I think most of them were practical, like washing the "poisonous" powder off of rice before cooking it.
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12-03-2014, 02:50 PM
I have dealt with children and tried to explain things to them in rational ways, why x y z needs to be done... They do not care.
Lie away, if you need to envoke dragons and demons to get them to do what is right, go for it. Try explaining to a kid why they need to eat vegetables instead of cheetos...
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12-25-2016, 01:28 PM
Just to put it a bit in perspective, here is Santa pre-1930's.:
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12-25-2016, 01:28 PM
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Special WW2 Santa:
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12-25-2016, 01:42 PM
If I have children (I'd like to say when but I could die or the world could end by the time I finish this post, never know) I'm going to tell them the truth:
Santa is Satan.
Just look at the damn names.
The devil needed to disguise himself as Santa to turn December into the month where all the evil in men is at it's peak.
After all, who in their right mind would believe:
In the name of Jesus (forgive me lord)
in honor of His birthday
This next month you will be guilt tripped to buy cheap shit built by chinese slaves owned by pharisees talmuds, regardless of whether it is in you or your families best interest.
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12-25-2016, 02:12 PM
Idk wtf y'all are talking about, I still get presents from Santa. This morning my stocking had all natural soap, a Yeti cup, and a bunch of peppermint.
Y'all just get coal, I bet.
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12-25-2016, 05:13 PM
You mean Santa is not real?!?!
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12-25-2016, 05:19 PM
In my area there is the Christkind coming, not Santa Claus.
I don't support the idea to scare kids to educate or rise them. This will set a seamen of fear in their hearts and they will always stay behind their full potential.
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