[Paracelsus]

http://www.dailylife.com.au/dl-fashion/f...3kudt.html

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Last week, Vogue made headlines for publishing an online editorial dedicated to curvy women dressed in plus-size lingerie.

The decision, quite rightly, was commended – despite the fact it did not appear in the hard-copy version of the magazine – and the images are beautiful. Magazines like Vogue really do have the power to help shift the industry’s obsession with thinness.

However, there was something that stood out to me about the shoot, and it’s something that extends to every “curve celebrating” campaign I’ve encountered. This common issue, often leaves me asking: why do we only see hourglass figures in our commercial exposure to plus-size bodies?

I'm not sure if you have noticed, but ever since magazines and fashion brands began to include bigger models in their shoots and campaigns, they've only come in one shape: the sort that has a waistline considerably smaller than their bust and hips.

Seeing bigger bodies at all is a positive step, but now we need to move on and start being realistic about the larger bodies attracting advertising campaigns and glossy photo shoots.

As Charing Ball writes in Madame Noir, the fashion industry’s interpretation of "plus-size" is just as limiting, and damaging, as its fixation with waif-like figures. Unconventional bodies are being “celebrated” but we’re still being told that there is a “right” way to have a body like that. Our “junk” must bookend our midsections, or else it's wrong.

So, what happens if you're a woman with “less boob than behind or more stomach than ass"? Ball asks.

“While seeing bigger women is an improvement and empowering in itself, if all we are really seeing is bigger versions of the same image we’ve been force-fed since we were kids, all we are doing is trading in one oppression for another,” she writes.

And she is right to be sceptical.

I participated in a consumer study for a fashion company a year or so ago, and I remember sitting with a group of other plus-size women. We were handed flash cards that had individual images of large-bodied women on them and we were asked to sort them in order of social acceptability.

The way they were graded had nothing to do with their style, hair colour or confidence, but rather how they stacked up against the ideal of a perfect body. Those classed ‘most acceptable’ proved to be women who resembled larger versions of traditional models. The least acceptable leaned towards the square and apple shaped silhouettes.

It became very apparent that there was discrimination even within the non-traditional body acceptance realm.

It's unfortunate that this happens, not only because of the general perpetuation of unfair standards, but also because it creates a form of privilege among those who do have this body type. While I personally deal with an extraordinary amount of backlash due to my fat body, I am fully aware that I also receive more positive attention than those who may not have an hourglass figure. It's a shame, this perpetuation of subcultured persecution. The one step forward becomes two steps backwards.

It is critical that we acknowledge its existence and the harm that it can cause.

While we are seeing body positive coverage in our media nowadays, the concept of embracing all body types is still in its infant stages. We're slow to adjust to change, and the rampant fat hate is proof that we have a long way to go.

Plus-size bodies in high fashion and advertising are most certainly a step in the right direction, but nowhere near where we want to be. It's one of those situations where we must acknowledge both the progressiveness and the ultimate lack of progress.

The hourglass body is important. It's a shape that many women have, and it deserves celebration. However, it shouldn't be the standard of plus-size beauty and it's my hope society can acclimate to seeing larger bodies and embrace all shapes and sizes.

How do we assist in this forward thinking cultural change? We support companies that are doing this already – companies like Curvy Girl, which is using unconventional bodies to model their lingerie. We celebrate look-books from brands like Re/Dress that veer away from traditional silhouettes and promote alternative style. We can support Louise from Body Exchange who is creating an exercise video for plus-size athletes.

And we can flood the internet with images of ourselves in all of our diverse glory.

All shapes. All sizes. All relevant.

Jes Baker is mental health professional, pastry chef, ex-art major, crazy cat lady, fat model and fiery advocate.

Leaving aside the combination of elements on the bio that just about guarantees a train wreck, what the Christing fuck?

If you ever needed a demonstration that it will never be enough for SJWs, surely this is it. It's not good enough to model clothes on a woman over whom men are barely able to keep their lunches down, now fat women in lingerie are being repressed unless they're allowed to go Full Jabba?

[2Wycked]

You cannot satisfy those whose existence is predicated on being unsatisfied.

[zombiejimmorrison]

They're so unconscious, spiritually they're dead inside. They need external validation like a drug, how sad.

[SteveMcMahon]

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I'm Jes!
A mental health professional, pastry chef, ex-art major, crazy cat lady, fat model, fiery advocate, and total pain in the ass.

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[sixsix]

I don't want to bash the United States, but for some weird reason the public discourse is ruled by a mixture of fear, fantasy and delusion. This brand of feminism is where paranoid conspiracy meets alternate reality.

This lovely piece is written by this woman:



Tattoos? Check. Shit attitude? Check. Obesity? Check.

She previously wrote about the CEO of A&F who is naturally disgusted by fatties and doesn't want this disease-riddled freaks to wear his stuff. She protested by doing a photo shoot with herself as a 'plus-sized' model. Unsurprisingly, the male model she hired was a traditionally hot guy, not her overweight male equivalent.

Jes Baker Wrote:

“…The world is progressing in inclusive ways whether you deem it cool or not. The only thing you’ve done through your comments (about thin being beautiful and only offering XL and XXL in your stores for men) is reinforce the unoriginal concept that fat women are social failures, valueless, and undesirable. Your apology doesn’t change this.”

Beauty Is Always Exclusive.

If everything is beautiful, nothing is beautiful. It is all about sexual discrimination: wanting to find superior partners to make superior babies. Beauty and ugliness coexist like tallness and shortness. It's relative to the rest.

You're Not Entitled To Male Desire.

Being thrown in a meat grinder would be oppression. Not being celebrated because you are a diseased cow is not oppression. There's no "unfair standards" because modeling concerns sexual attraction. Feminists love to point out that men are not entitled to sex. Guess what? You're not entitled to a man's love. You're free to indulge in your most basic, self-destructive impulses, but you're not free from the consequences.

Obesity Is A Disease Of The Soul.

Obesity isn't only about looks. It signals to other people how you choose to live your life and what values you deem important. Just like extreme bodybuilding is associated with some mental health issues, obesity is rightly associated with a lack of self-respect and discipline.

Dispassionate debate is often made easier by discussing the particular topic in other species. Less emotions.

Animals need to eat enough to survive and properly develop. Good quality food is sought and consumed, and then other goals can be pursued. Not enough nutrition? All energy is focused on obtaining it (e.g. cortisol release, insomnia). After eating, the mental focus switches.

If an animal cannot switch, and instead is stuck on eating until the animal is endangered by immobility, metabolic dysfunction and skin infections, we all recognize this as sickness. Obesity is sickness, first of the mind and then of the body.

[catoblepa]

fat women are bigger consumers (in every sense of the word).

[Snowplow]

Her article had me in a laughing fit. There is so much fat hamstering the wheel broke the bearings.

[Lemmo]

Yeah, why aren't businesses willing to advertise their clothes using models who are just completely unappealing and shapeless sacks of shit?

[SteveMcMahon]

(11-27-2014 06:51 AM)Lemmo Wrote:  

Yeah, why aren't businesses willing to advertise their clothes using models who are just completely unappealing and shapeless sacks of shit?

QUIT BODY POLICING BBW'S YOU FAT-SHAMING SHITLORD!!!1

They are beautiful, no matter what you say. Words can't bring them down.

[getdownonit]

I wonder when these cunts will start to promote the rights of plus sized male models

[Snowplow]

(11-27-2014 06:58 AM)SteveMcMahon Wrote:  

(11-27-2014 06:51 AM)Lemmo Wrote:  

Yeah, why aren't businesses willing to advertise their clothes using models who are just completely unappealing and shapeless sacks of shit?

QUIT BODY POLICING BBW'S YOU FAT-SHAMING SHITLORD!!!1

They are beautiful, no matter what you say. Words can't bring them down.

Immediately made me think of Sally struthers from south park

[Dr. Howard]

(11-27-2014 04:48 AM)2Wycked Wrote:  

You cannot satisfy those whose existence is predicated on being unsatisfied.

Indeed. Beware chicks who have found that the best way for them to be the center of attention is to be the victim vs. being pretty.

[SteveMcMahon]

http://www.themilitantbaker.com/p/about.html

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I live in Tucson Arizona with my three cats; all of whom I love more than anything. Really. Anything.

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When I'm not working,

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you will find me drinking coffee downtown,

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reminiscing about my purple hair,

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taking body positive photos of women,

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teaching myself HTML,

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practicing self restraint in thrift stores

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and wishing that I had a British accent.

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You have to sift through a lot of shit on the internet, but you can also find gems. I hope this is a gem for you.

Oh, it is, Jes! It is.

[kbell]

I think this is a hippo who made fun of the fit asian mom. The picture really makes fun of her as a future spinster. Right now just another one of the fat SJW's ruining culture.

[Dalaran1991]

As much as I love rooshv, threads with "visually offensive" images of fat montrosities like this should have a warning tag "Not safe for boner/lunch/before going on a date" or something.

I have to spend 10 min in the "what do you consider a 10" thread for every 5 sec looking at a fattie.

[DarkTriad]

"The way they were graded had nothing to do with their style, hair colour or confidence, but rather how they stacked up against the ideal of a perfect body."

She wants people to be discriminated against based on their hair color and style?

[Praetor Lupus]

When I see myself getting fat, my first and only thought is "I'd best lose some weight." Not "this world had best accommodate my hamster do I can delude myself into thinking this state I'm in is right and proper."

Just a thought.

[Pestilence]

Fuck vogue for doing that shit in the first place.

[Lemmo]

We live in a time of monsters. Might as well be Beowulf.

[Ensam]

When was the last time GQ did a plus sized male model issue?

Oh that's right, never.

[Glaucon]

(11-27-2014 09:55 AM)Lemmo Wrote:  

We live in a time of monsters. Might as well be Beowulf.

I love this quote.

That bitch should be cast out from society, and spit upon everywhere she goes.


Sadly, when men starting to transform into monsters when every other way have been denied to them, it is never pretty...

[SteveMcMahon]

(11-27-2014 10:25 AM)Glaucon Wrote:  

(11-27-2014 09:55 AM)Lemmo Wrote:  

We live in a time of monsters. Might as well be Beowulf.

I love this quote.

That bitch should be cast out from society, and spit upon everywhere she goes.

Whoa!

That escalated quickly.

Could we not just chase her around with a wet towel?

[VolandoVengoVolandoVoy]

(11-27-2014 09:44 AM)Pestilence Wrote:  

Fuck vogue for doing that shit in the first place.

I highly doubt that Samuel Newhouse (owner of Conde Nast) gives a flying fuck about fatties one way or another. Vogue is a small part of the family empire. Whoever runs that part of it, is just concerned with maintaining and increasing value so they don't get fired.
If placating fatties gets attention and maintains readership, that's what they'll do. Fatties are a huge and growing demographic, and their money is green.
It's about the Benjamins.

[samsamsam]

(11-27-2014 04:48 AM)2Wycked Wrote:  

You cannot satisfy those whose existence is predicated on being unsatisfied.

Brilliance in one simple sentence. Well done!

[CRR]

Obese whale thinks every woman should be a model.



We really need to have another fat shaming week. In addition to shaming them for promoting an unhealthy lifestyle and trying to dictate what is beautiful, we need to shame them for shaming thin women, and for corrupting the word "beautiful".

Fat Shaming Week 2: The Obeseaning.