[afronoob]

(04-18-2011 09:15 PM)Thorne Wrote:  

I don't mess with people that are involved. For me sleeping with a married woman on the night she decides to sleep with some other dude, more than morally wrong, is lacking self-respect for men in general. I hate the concept of the horny drooling guy waiting for the easiest opportunity, and so any chick that decides to do it, knows there'll be a sucker she can count on (like she is an item on sale that we just gotta buy), let alone the pain that guy is helping inflict on the married dude. I know it's complicated because you can never know initially if a woman is telling the truth or not, but that's why I'm trying to get involved with chicks that I have real connection with, and it means sometimes not sleeping on the first night. It's not morals, it's investing a little bit more so you get a bit more rewarded. Chicks now just because they're phisically hot are not enough for me nowadays.

Even if for me personally sexual fidelity is something we need to evolve out of (unless children are in the agenda), you need to respect the other people's choices. If you don't it's like pushing your religion on other people. And if it you put yourself in the other dude's shoes and you don't like it, then there's no reason to do it at all. All my friends now are married or with an LTR and I happen to have chemistry with a lot of their girls (I've always been the bachelor that doesn't settle down, good dancer, etc. so I've always gotten attention from them), but I know my friends would never accept it, so there's no way I'll do it.

But when it does happen what I do, even if it's awkward, is ask the guy directly if it's ok to date the ex (also if you're a good friend you should know more or less how he'd feel about it to even ask). We guys need to be still upfront and deal with things like men.

I'll admit it's a line very hard to draw sometimes, but when in doubt I prefer not to do it. Sexual desire shouldn't be such a big thing that derails us from the important things (which we also need to figure out for each one of us)

Friends and family-never! However married women are often particularly straight-up and freaky thus rewarding so I don't say no.
Cupcake is either a young girl or a homo! It hasn't become an active troll and it should stay for a while,if only to see how men behave.

[Gringo]

Why do so many homophobic insults get thrown around this board? It's childish.

[hydrogonian]

Who cares?

Anyway, calling someone a homo isn't necessarily homophobic. Its just a slightly un-PC way of denoting sexual preference. Even homos call each other homos sometimes.

[Moma]

(04-20-2011 10:02 AM)hydrogonian Wrote:  

Who cares?

Anyway, calling someone a homo isn't necessarily homophobic. Its just a slightly un-PC way of denoting sexual preference. Even homos call each other homos sometimes.

How do you know thisssss? Do you take in your daily requirements of fruits and vegetablessss?

[hydrogonian]

ah... you got me Moma. I'm secretly a gay man who has been posting on this board for years as a social experiment.

[Moma]

(04-20-2011 10:08 AM)hydrogonian Wrote:  

ah. you got me Moma. I'm secretly a gay man who has been posting on this board for years as a social experiment.

No wonder you are so knowledgeable and ass-tute in many fields. It all makes sense now..so speaking on which..

I was going to buy my aunty a dress and I was wondering which one you would recommend, the colour the fit etc...

[hydrogonian]

Are you kidding me dude? That's some aggressive joking around.

What makes it seem more aggressive is that the jokes aren't funny enough to stand on their own, without a person taking it as you legitimately trying to insult me rather than to have fun with some word play.

If you aren't, no worries.

If you are, then being a keyboard tough guy is lame.

I'll leave it at that.

[Moma]

(04-20-2011 10:29 AM)hydrogonian Wrote:  

Are you kidding me dude? That's some aggressive joking around.

What makes it seem more aggressive is that the jokes aren't funny enough to stand on their own, without a person taking it as you legitimately trying to insult me rather than to have fun with some word play.

You seem a tad bit touchy (if you are being serious). I guess my humour can go down the wrong way. I fully respect and love you (no homo). If this bothers you, I can end it. I wasn't aware you were having a bad day.

My sincerest apologies.

[hydrogonian]

Its fine. But yeah, humor is hard to make work on the internet. How do I know if you are joking around or trying to provoke me? There is no tone of voice to gauge the meaning of the words.

If its all in good fun, then I get it and its completely cool.

No worries.

[Gmac]

(04-20-2011 10:35 AM)hydrogonian Wrote:  

Its fine. But yeah, humor is hard to make work on the internet. How do I know if you are joking around or trying to provoke me? There is no tone of voice to gauge the meaning of the words.

If its all in good fun, then I get it and its completely cool.

No worries.

winky face

I got the joke, but it was the extra periods...

[afronoob]

(04-20-2011 10:53 AM)Gmac Wrote:  

(04-20-2011 10:35 AM)hydrogonian Wrote:  

Its fine. But yeah, humor is hard to make work on the internet. How do I know if you are joking around or trying to provoke me? There is no tone of voice to gauge the meaning of the words.

If its all in good fun, then I get it and its completely cool.

No worries.

winky face

I got the joke, but it was the extra periods...

Quote:

Why do so many homophobic insults get thrown around this board? It's childish.

Gringo,how is that an insult? This cupcake character is so obviously not a normal guy its not even funny. Am not Oprah and never claimed to love all cocksuckers-why should I?

[Gringo]

How is it not an insult? Homo is usually a derogatory term, what's worse is you're calling someone who is presumably straight (or why else would he be on here?) a homo. Grow up.

[HD668B]

If you bang an engaged girl, your doing a service to the man, because it will shorten his relationship with that slut. Or you can see it as forcing the red pill. And I believe in the harsh truth over pretty lies.

[Moma]

(04-21-2011 08:01 AM)LÉtranger Wrote:  

If you bang an engaged girl, your doing a service to the man, because it will shorten his relationship with that slut. Or you can see it as forcing the red pill. And I believe in the harsh truth over pretty lies.

I agree with this. I think I mentioned that my friend sent over his girlfriend to stay with me for a day as a tester. If she had slept with me, then he would have known that she is not trustworthy and he would have been able to act accordingly.

Nothing worth finding out you have married an untrustworthy lizard after you have already invested time and effort in it.

A lot of guys who catch their women cheating get mad at the guy as if the woman has nothing to do it.

Some of the guys should actually thank the guys, it's a filtration process.

Of course, it's easy for me to say this logically but when emotions run, it's a different process.

However logically, it makes sense.

[el mechanico]

When it comes to friends girlfriends and wives I will absolutely F**k any one of them! But eveybody knows that already because my friends know me well and I've told them all how I feel about it. I dont hang out with any of them alone.Why should I? Swim dates? with my buddies wife? I would tell any one of them if their woman asked me to hang with them.The girls know that and so do the guys.But if Im pushed up against a wall after a few vodka and crans? We all know whats going to happen.That being said, this is what I tell them.You NEVER want to join the "pussy police" If you think have to sign up for that you should just dump your slut wife/or girlfriend.Although the PP has many patrolmen,and if your girl is slick enough and you stay with her,maybe you can get a promotion and become a detective or sargent! The pay is not so great nor are the benefits.Some people do a full 30 year stretch in the force and i guess,love the work. Not for me.

[CupCake]

(04-21-2011 02:47 AM)afronoob Wrote:  

This cupcake character is so obviously not a normal guy its not even funny.

Is that an insult?

[hydrogonian]

(04-21-2011 09:51 AM)el mechanico Wrote:  

When it comes to friends girlfriends and wives I will absolutely F**k any one of them! But eveybody knows that already because my friends know me well and I've told them all how I feel about it. I dont hang out with any of them alone.Why should I? Swim dates? with my buddies wife? I would tell any one of them if their woman asked me to hang with them.The girls know that and so do the guys.But if Im pushed up against a wall after a few vodka and crans? We all know whats going to happen.That being said, this is what I tell them.You NEVER want to join the "pussy police" If you think have to sign up for that you should just dump your slut wife/or girlfriend.Although the PP has many patrolmen,and if your girl is slick enough and you stay with her,maybe you can get a promotion and become a detective or sargent! The pay is not so great nor are the benefits.Some people do a full 30 year stretch in the force and i guess,love the work. Not for me.

Good point about not wanting to join the pussy police, but damn buddy, that's pretty hardcore. No trust amongst friends, huh? Personally, I would never keep a person as a friend that I couldn't trust with my wife/gf, out of principle and a sense of self preservation. If I cant trust him with my wife / gf, then I sure as hell cant trust him in any other way. Without that base level of trust, there is no basis for friendship. I'd probably treat you more like a potential enemy whose presence I would calmly but warily endure, even if my wife/gf wasn't around.

Maybe we're from different cultures.

[Gringo]

I don't really understand it either, if you're willing to fuck a good freinds wife then you can't be trusted with anything. Having had a few vodkas isn't really a legit excuse. I'd sack you off as a friend ASAP because you aren't worthy of friendship.

[el mechanico]

This is the deal, I have no reason to ever hang with anybodys wife or girlfriend alone and I never flirt etc. Nor do I want too. But, when pushed..and it has happend my high sex drive takes over. I cant help that! Call it a weakness maybe. So what the fuck is the difference if your girlfriend grabs my c**k and I say no thanks? Trustworthy? Im not the one you need to worry about..Now should I go into more depth about the pussy police?

[Gmac]

(04-21-2011 11:10 AM)el mechanico Wrote:  

This is the deal, I have no reason to ever hang with anybodys wife or girlfriend alone and I never flirt etc. Nor do I want too. But, when pushed..and it has happend my high sex drive takes over. I cant help that! Call it a weakness maybe. So what the fuck is the difference if your girlfriend grabs my c**k and I say no thanks? Trustworthy? Im not the one you need to worry about..Now should I go into more depth about the pussy police?

That's guy code, bro's before ho's. I probably wouldn't want to know you IRL if this is your motto. Gotta have some degree of dignity and integrity, especially amongst friends. No slut is worth ruining a good friendship if you ask me.

[hydrogonian]

(04-21-2011 11:10 AM)el mechanico Wrote:  

This is the deal, I have no reason to ever hang with anybodys wife or girlfriend alone and I never flirt etc. Nor do I want too. But, when pushed..and it has happend my high sex drive takes over. I cant help that! Call it a weakness maybe. So what the fuck is the difference if your girlfriend grabs my c**k and I say no thanks? Trustworthy? Im not the one you need to worry about..Now should I go into more depth about the pussy police?

yeah, you can help it. Its called character and self control. Its what makes relationships and society work. If you can't control yourself for the benefit of your 'friend', then your a weak man.

If your willing to do that, no way do I believe that it would take her grabbing your cock to make that happen. Only a chump would believe that.

We know what the 'pussy police' is.

Every man with a wife or a gf polices that pussy. That's his pussy.

If you aren't doing that, then she's not your gf, she's a fuck buddy, or you have a real special relationship with your wife. Having an attitude of not policing the pussy is great for getting a lot of non-committal sex. It works less well for ltr's.

You may as well tell her that she has permission to cheat, because if you don't care if she does then she will eventually. All women are like this, because all relationships go through hard times where people question their loyalty. Women are emotional, impulsive, and horny.

Now, if I have to worry about you when I'm going through a rough time with my wife /gf, then you won't be a friend.

I mean, its okay not to be friends with men whose gf's or wives that you know. That's your prerogative. If your intention is to fuck these women if she ever comes onto you or you her, then that's fine, just don't kid yourself or him that your his 'friend'. You aren't. Frankly, that guy should make it very clear to you that he will beat you almost to death if you even look at his wife or gf if he knows that you will fuck her if he should turn his back. That's the right move for him. As you said, he shouldn't police the pussy. But he sure can make it uncomfortable for you to hang around.

[Moma]

I kind of see where the mechanic is coming from but I also see where you guys are coming from..it's a difficult one.

From a logical point, the mechanic makes a lot of sense but from an emotional standpoint, I see what you guys are saying though..

[hydrogonian]

Moma, how is he logical and how are we emotional?

I don't see how principles of trust and friendship are emotional, and how a friend fucking a wife or gf given the opportunity is logical.

Actually, it seems to be the inverse.

Having a set of qualifications and principles that friends must abide by is about as logical as it gets. It assures that you make good choices for friends, and that you avoid being injured in some way in the future by people who you thought you could trust. Its a basic mechanism of self preservation in a world where social connections are critical.

Doing what he suggests is only logical from the perspective that he's rationalizing shitty behavior for selfish fulfillment. Its rational to him, because sociopaths generally rationalize their selfish behavior somehow, but its actually driven by the emotional need for selfish fulfillment.

Being rational is frequently the hard decision (refraining from fucking a friends wife). Being emotional is most frequently the impulsive easy decision (satisfying your urge with your friends wife's pussy).

That's why being in a relationship with women is an art form. Your trying to make a relationship work with an emotionally driven person who will frequently rationalize (logic) her emotionally driven selfishness.

A man who can't control his emotional impulses, especially when necessary to preserve his social or business connections with other men, is akin to a woman.

You male friends shouldn't be logically similar to women. If they are, or that makes sense to you, then your either bad a choosing friends or you act that way yourself and therefore are bad at being a man.

[el mechanico]

Ok. Im going to try and explain again...I try to avoid these situations at all costs and never have i lied about it. But,It has happend. My friends flirt etc with my dates all the time and I dont give a shit.Most women do what THEY want to do regardless. We talk about this openly and honestly and it has never ruined any frienships.

[Gringo]

They probably still give you the benefit of the doubt that you ARE a good friend and wouldn't fuck their girlfriend / wife. You'll prove them wrong eventually I'm sure.