[coverdoc]

I cosign with Speakeasy, Cattle and Merenguero all said about the time spent in each city. It took me about 2-4 days to really get comfortable where ever I went and for my game to reach it's full potential so i'd second spending all your time this trip in one city. I should really pump out a new Data sheet on Mont, DF and GDL as i travel to mexico twice a month for the last 3-4 months. But my recommendation where ever you go is to simply pipeline 3-4 days before coming in: Tinder gps spoof, POF, OKcupid (badoo if you're really bored). I simply told the girls I was busy but could meet this day and most seemed to be down as long as it's within 2-3 days.
Every new city I went to in mexico I always had a chick ready to meet that afternoon/night. It kills two birds with one stone. 1. get shown around and develop a feel for the city, 2. Can work your game on her while exploring other venues to return to later. Honestly i'd set up like 2-3 girls to meet at the same time on the day you arrive, you'd be surprise how quick some chicas can flake.

[Merenguero]

(11-16-2014 12:30 PM)coverdoc Wrote:  

I cosign with Speakeasy, Cattle and Merenguero all said about the time spent in each city. It took me about 2-4 days to really get comfortable where ever I went and for my game to reach it's full potential so i'd second spending all your time this trip in one city.

It's the Mayweather theory. Mayweather spends the first few rounds of a fight trying to figure out his opponent. He often loses the early rounds, but usually dominates the rest of the fight. Same concept.

[Belize King]

Wrote a datasheet on GDL. Been to Monterrey over five times. Love both cities. DF is next. My time is spent in Belize and Rio but a weekend trip to DF should pop off next year.

[kongzi]

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But from what I hear, Monterrey is rather boring...If you strike out with girls, sounds like there's pretty much nothing to do or see there. It's like the Mexican version of Phoenix. That's another reason I vouch for DF. If you have any other reason to travel other than 100% chasing women, there's endless shit to do and see in Mexico City. It's the "real" Mexico.

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I'd recommend Mexico City as it has a lot of stuff to do during the day tourist-wise

But from what I've gathered about DF, the main attractions are palaces, museums and historical sights. But I'm not interested in any of that stuff. I would like to try real Mexican food

I'm more interested in experiencing this:

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You don't really need much if any game in Mexico. As has been stated on other Mexico threads, chics there when they think you're cute will stare, they will flirt and they will act thirsty. There's none of that indirect shit like in Anglo countries

[speakeasy]

How could I forget this story. I was hanging out with Azulsombra at a salsa club in the LA area a few years back. And I met this one newly arrived Mexican girl. She was pretty cute, very feminine, playful and flirty as hell. She was with this guy who was an extremely fobby Asian guy. I was doing everything I could to try and peel her away but it wasn't happening. She told me straight up that she wants to date no guys but Asian. The guy wasn't stylish or anything. Probably the cutest girl he'll ever get in his life.

I've never heard a Mexican-American girl say that. I think her actually being FROM Mexico made a difference. So this could be good for kongzi. I know that's only one girl I'm talking about and I can't generalize about a whole nation, but it was the first time I'd ever seen a cute, slim Mexican girl who was all about Asian dudes.

[Brian Shima]

I think I replied to your other thread OP but I didn't realize your background. You probably won't need much game if any at all if your an Asian American in Mexico. Brush up on some Spanish but your exotic factor will be thru the roof man

[germanico]

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You don't really need much if any game in Mexico. As has been stated on other Mexico threads, chics there when they think you're cute will stare, they will flirt and they will act thirsty. There's none of that indirect shit like in Anglo countries

[TravelerKai]

Expect to be called Chino alot. lol

[Gunner]

I live in Mexico City, I know GDL and MTY.

The weather right now is beatiful in DF (like 16°C), there are more restaurants and places than a lifetime is capable of trying, there are a lot of venues and girls, some of them speak fluent English, most do not (just broken phrases).

PM me if you come. Always down to meet and help.

[chochemonger1]

(11-18-2014 01:56 PM)Gunner Wrote:  

I live in Mexico City, I know GDL and MTY.

The weather right now is beatiful in DF (like 16°C), there are more restaurants and places than a lifetime is capable of trying, there are a lot of venues and girls, some of them speak fluent English, most do not (just broken phrases).

PM me if you come. Always down to meet and help.

Gunner, if you don't mind me asking: what are your notch numbers in Mexico City or in GDL like, per month? I have never really stayed long enough, to ascertain how good Mexico can be. But it never showed anything better than Colombia, with all the short term trips I have made there, or what I saw in Texas or talking to my Mexican friends. Maybe if you were looking for a wife.

[Mentavious]

^^^can you give us a quick monthly breakdown?

[kongzi]

Since I have a month-long winter vacation next month, I was thinking of going to Mexico during December and/or January. Is this a better idea? Are there other countries I could check out during winter vacation instead, since I'm not really interested in Mexico, other than to see the direct flirting from Mexican girls? I have alot more interest in visiting Europe, but I heard it gets really cold and people don't go out during the winter.

[Gunner]

(11-18-2014 02:19 PM)chochemonger1 Wrote:  

(11-18-2014 01:56 PM)Gunner Wrote:  

I live in Mexico City, I know GDL and MTY.

The weather right now is beatiful in DF (like 16°C), there are more restaurants and places than a lifetime is capable of trying, there are a lot of venues and girls, some of them speak fluent English, most do not (just broken phrases).

PM me if you come. Always down to meet and help.

Gunner, if you don't mind me asking: what are your notch numbers in Mexico City or in GDL like, per month? I have never really stayed long enough, to ascertain how good Mexico can be. But it never showed anything better than Colombia, with all the short term trips I have made there, or what I saw in Texas or talking to my Mexican friends. Maybe if you were looking for a wife.

I work in a really demanding profession (+60hrs week), some months ago my objective was to accumulate notches and it was not worthed: my health and job suffered but I managed to get 1.5 a week ~6 a month for two months while going out 3 times a week and day/online game.

Right now I decided to focus on what I value (gym, reading, trying to set-up a business) and prefer to have two quality relationships and some booty calls from my past days. Obviously if the opportunity of a night out and girls comes I'm going to approach and try to go for the kill but it's not my objective right now.

[chochemonger1]

(11-22-2014 10:31 AM)Gunner Wrote:  

(11-18-2014 02:19 PM)chochemonger1 Wrote:  

(11-18-2014 01:56 PM)Gunner Wrote:  

I live in Mexico City, I know GDL and MTY.

The weather right now is beatiful in DF (like 16°C), there are more restaurants and places than a lifetime is capable of trying, there are a lot of venues and girls, some of them speak fluent English, most do not (just broken phrases).

PM me if you come. Always down to meet and help.

Gunner, if you don't mind me asking: what are your notch numbers in Mexico City or in GDL like, per month? I have never really stayed long enough, to ascertain how good Mexico can be. But it never showed anything better than Colombia, with all the short term trips I have made there, or what I saw in Texas or talking to my Mexican friends. Maybe if you were looking for a wife.

I work in a really demanding profession (+60hrs week), some months ago my objective was to accumulate notches and it was not worthed: my health and job suffered but I managed to get 1.5 a week ~6 a month for two months while going out 3 times a week and day/online game.

Right now I decided to focus on what I value (gym, reading, trying to set-up a business) and prefer to have two quality relationships and some booty calls from my past days. Obviously if the opportunity of a night out and girls comes I'm going to approach and try to go for the kill but it's not my objective right now.

It is lower, on average, from what you should get in Colombia. Mexico, from most accounts,is not a place to get high notch counts.

[fvitterbi]

Anyone here in GDL now?

hit me up.

[RestinPeace]

(11-14-2014 04:39 AM)speakeasy Wrote:  

Mexico City is the most socially liberal and cosmopolitan and has the widest selection with 20 million people(biggest city in the world after Tokyo I believe). So obviously your targets are practically endless. I'd focus on Mexico City for your first trip. It'll be easiest there because of the more liberal climate, good logistics with metro and density and sheer number of people. I haven't been to Monterrey but I've been to Guadalajara and it feels more conservative and provincial than Mexico City. If 5 days is all you got, it's a no-brainer, Mexico City. Pipeline on Tinder.

The problem with mexico city is that the bulk of population is way too indian looking, in a native american way of course. Unless you arent into extreme native looking chicks, think peru, bolivia, guatemala, Some parts of ecuador and SOuthern Mexico/Mexico DF you better move to the northern areas of mexico, Monterrey has much more talent.

[Cattle Rustler]

(12-07-2014 05:35 PM)RestinPeace Wrote:  

(11-14-2014 04:39 AM)speakeasy Wrote:  

Mexico City is the most socially liberal and cosmopolitan and has the widest selection with 20 million people(biggest city in the world after Tokyo I believe). So obviously your targets are practically endless. I'd focus on Mexico City for your first trip. It'll be easiest there because of the more liberal climate, good logistics with metro and density and sheer number of people. I haven't been to Monterrey but I've been to Guadalajara and it feels more conservative and provincial than Mexico City. If 5 days is all you got, it's a no-brainer, Mexico City. Pipeline on Tinder.

The problem with mexico city is that the bulk of population is way too indian looking, in a native american way of course. Unless you arent into extreme native looking chicks, think peru, bolivia, guatemala, Some parts of ecuador and SOuthern Mexico/Mexico DF you better move to the northern areas of mexico, Monterrey has much more talent.

So your plan is: Leave the US to go to Mexico for the white chicks?

[RestinPeace]

Not white chicks... but mixed ones with a a lot of spaniard and some native are the hottest ones.


Even the whiter mexicans look nothing like your typical plain white american girl of mainly british/Irish ancestry.

The very amerindian look isnt attractive...

[fvitterbi]

I've posted a Guadalajara Meetup here to be a bit more formal, thanks

http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-43321.html

[mindanao]

(11-14-2014 05:28 PM)MidWest Wrote:  

Yeah I vote for Monterrey as well.

I co-sign KinTut's assessment, especially the San Pedro area in Monterrey.


Beautiful chicks, day game is easier in Monterrey and of course they are friendlier.


To me conservative is actually better because the women are friendlier and their bitch shields are very low. A more liberal city equals higher bitch-shields and colder girls. I'm not a big fan of Mexico City or Guadalajara when it comes to girls. Although the girls in Guadalajara are fly and the city is great, but I'm more of a guy who likes to explore cities aside the mainstream which is where you get your real value as a foreigner.

Go to Monterrey, you won't be disappointed.

That is what I notice actually. This whole thing discussed in the past about conservative being a barrier in places like Philippines is nonesense. The most liberated countries are places like Canada and Toronto. they are more liberated than anywhere pretty much but the bitch shields are what actually get in the way. Conservative Mindanao is as far away from liberated lands as you an get and getting pussy is a joke. These 'conservative' girls are so nice, it is hard to not make love in regions like this.

The girls here say "it is liberated there you must get so many girls in Canada" I am like Uh, no, it is bitch shield central, obviously where I am now is where I get girls all the time while I stand little chance in Toronto.

[Travesty]

(11-15-2014 05:12 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

You don't really need much if any game in Mexico. As has been stated on other Mexico threads, chics there when they think you're cute will stare, they will flirt and they will act thirsty. There's none of that indirect shit like in Anglo countries where you have to banter and act aloof and play push/pull and neg and that bullshit. Just show up, look for girls that are eying you, have your logistics in order and you're money.

Doing some research on MTY. Been to GDL. Thought I would throw my hat in the ring.

GDL does not have a lot of good looking chicks. Yes there are a limited (very) number of knockouts that you would see around town or even out at night. Whoever is saying this has an inside connection to a social circle of hot girls at house parties. As an outsider I didn't see this in the slightest.

Also black guys tend to say there is no game needed in Mexico or that it is easy. I am assuming it is a combination of these guys getting more interest for exotic factor and also rating girls higher here than normal because they like they extra attention so they score the chicks higher.

This is my only reasonable explanation.

Next point. In my experience Tinder is the only online game I have found fruitful for either. MTY blows GDL out of the water. I have had 3 young solid 7's open me on Tinder from MTY (plus tons of matches I haven't started yet). From GDL I never got opened and girls would be distant on me often. Plus the ratio of swipe rights must be 3x higher for MTY.

Along with other reports in my gut says the average girl you see out or get contacted from online will be MUCH better in MTY. Maybe this is because I am white and GDL is a black guy town and MTY is a white guy town who knows.

In GDL I definitely felt like I needed game. I got some eye fucks but I never felt anything was remotely easy being an outsider. As I wrote elsewhere it was a gaming nightmare compared to Colombia for me.

[coverdoc]

(02-25-2016 02:03 AM)Travesty Wrote:  

(11-15-2014 05:12 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

You don't really need much if any game in Mexico. As has been stated on other Mexico threads, chics there when they think you're cute will stare, they will flirt and they will act thirsty. There's none of that indirect shit like in Anglo countries where you have to banter and act aloof and play push/pull and neg and that bullshit. Just show up, look for girls that are eying you, have your logistics in order and you're money.

Also black guys tend to say there is no game needed in Mexico or that it is easy. I am assuming it is a combination of these guys getting more interest for exotic factor and also rating girls higher here than normal because they like they extra attention so they score the chicks higher.


Along with other reports in my gut says the average girl you see out or get contacted from online will be MUCH better in MTY. Maybe this is because I am white and GDL is a black guy town and MTY is a white guy town who knows.

Bold claim there. I know a few black guys who go to Mex often and i'll tell you we all get about the same quality of chicks we do in U.S. as we do in Mex. You sound somewhat butt hurt that there is a place where black guys can actually out game you. We are saying game is not needed in Mexico because what "we" would define as game, we didn't really need to implement. Case and point: If I go to a bar and a girl is looking at me smiling, and she's cute, yeah 7s or better and I have pics to back up my claims, then I go over to her, Most normal dudes in Mex don't approach strangers, it's not that type of culture. Second, if I go over and say hey and she's obviously been staring at me, i'm confident she has some interest and they don't do that dumb U.S. girl shit of pretending, if she likes you she likes you.

You second idea is way off. Monterrey is not more of a white town. I've been to MTY at least 6 times in the last two years for 1-2 week stretches. I constantly walk up on gorgeous girls, white guys do well too, but to say it's more of white town is meh. I just find it funny you say we have to rate women higher. Before making such asinine claims, why not reach out to one of us first and get some intel first. When all you white guys go to these 3rd world countries and get 50 bangs in a week, you don't hear us say anything and we never care about doubting claims all 50 were 7s+.

-CD

[Travesty]

^ I don't understand your points at all. Multiple black guys have posted they do well in Mexico and I dug up on post from a respected member. I also have talked to a few black guys and they agree it is good for them there. Guys in general tend to like anywhere it is good for them and rate girls a bit higher. This is no knock against black guys. I do this myself subconciously on some level and I think everyone does.

Please don't be an identity politics guy.

I did specifically IM you for info about MTY and safety and other things months ago and you gave me info. So I also have no idea what you are talking about. I also texted another MTY member on the board multiple times asking for tips and no response. Sort of the same vibe I got from MTY guys in general though when visiting there. Not as cool as Colombians, by a long shot.

And I did get strong eye contact in GDL approached and the girl acted like I was an idiot for coming up and trying to talk to her. So yes they do that shit in Mexico I experienced first hand.

Even the instance of I approach and the girlfriend of this girl is being nice and giggly but the girl that gave the strong stare acts like a bitch.

This forum has a strong strong "you're a butthurt hater" section especially in the Travel section. I had a guy give me a hard time once talking down on San Francisco chicks for Christ's sake. People get territorial over places they like as if it is their mom being attacked.

I give my firsthand experiences for others no matter how bad or good. I will dump on Mexico until shit rises to the top of the new Trump wall if it doesn't work well for me. If it did I would shower it in praise.

My Mexican American friend who got 5 lays in a month of decent quality in Colombia has the same feelings and experiences in Mexico as me. Day, night, online - girls all have dour or skiddish attitudes towards us. For us it seemed you need social circle uno cien.

So if you are a black dude then step off bruh.

If you are a white dude then step off brah.

[Travesty]

Now I am back from MTY:

I want to love Mexico, it doesn't love me back and I have things in my gut that say we just don't get along. There were almost zero gringos in either city. I felt my value should be pretty high especially in MTY which is Americanized (cabs and venues play American music all the time which is offputting in a way. I want Mexican music when there).

In MTY I saw 3 other gringos. All three tall, jacked, and handsome. I think it says something about what outsiders think of the safety or reasons to visit MTY in general. Police go around with their red and blue lights on at all times of day. They were fucking everywhere. They cruise around in a manner that just wants to make a presence. I was told to my face by GDL locals several times the city could be dangerous for me and I had balls for being there.

Bottom line in either place I got no exotic value even though almost zero gringos and a small danger factor especially perceived by locals in GDL. I think I could almost get more looks and warmth in the U.S., no joke. Online though in MTY especially I got more matches and conversations going with young 7's than anywhere I have experienced. All said and done during holy week before Easter many girls went out of town though, many more in town did not end up meeting up after over a handful said they were interested and even invited me. So 0 for 20 whatsapp numbers, 100+ matches with strong back and forth conversations. I had never pipelined that hard, never with that much "front of pipe" success anywhere, with just zero at the end.

Of the two Mexican cities I don't think any has a lot of character though Monterrey has more in my experience. I think whether or not I visited Colombia previously I wouldn't fall in love with either cities when taking girls out of the equation or not.

Bogota and Medellin crush both these cities in the character, things to do, and girls categories like an elephant sitting on an ant.

Pros GDL:

1. It feels like there is probably more total knockouts on the very highend although not many. The ones I saw were with wealthy high status guys in high end places.

2. Better ratios when out in nightlife, much better. I saw groups of 3 or 4 girls out without guy friends often. In MTY many places were and extreme sausagefest. Tables of 8 guys with no girls and so on. In MTY even though the average quality noticeably higher when out anywhere there were few easily approachable sets compared to GDL.

3. I received more strong eye contact from girls in GDL, though when approaching to capitalize it seemed like they were just curious about me, but didn't want me to talk to them afterall. I feel if I were in the social circle they would be very warm toward me. MTY in this regard was strange as fuck. Barely any eye contact from girls, but guys would stare at me as if they were amused many times almost in a rude way like I felt they may be joking with their friends about "looking at that fucking gringo". In GDL this never happened and I am surprised because this is supposed to be an Americanized city.

4. Way more choices in Airbnb and apartments for rent online. In MTY there were only two Airbnbs for rent in decent parts of the city and the hotels outside of Hotel Macroplaza are expensive $100+ a night.

5. Less male competition by far. In MTY there is a big gym culture it seems. I saw lots of tall good looking guys that lift.

Pros MTY:

1. Taller, thinner girls, with a much higher average in the center-right of the bell curve (6's and 7's). I saw cute girls out and about much more often whether in San Pedro, San Jeronimo, Barrio Antiguo, Plaza T.E.C., Centrito and so on day or night. In GDL I saw maybe two the entire trip during the day. Two. Yes you read that right two.

2. MTY has mountains that look like they want to eat the city, it has more open space so to speak, it doesn't feel like an endless semi dense concrete jungle like GDL (which is like L.A. which I hate). Driving on the main highway and seeing all the mountains was refreshing.

3. MTY has more of a rock and music scene culture if you are into that. This could be a con though if you are anti hipster, though the MTY hipster version of girls is 10x lighter than the American kind and they are usually cuter here.

4. Girls seemed more receptive to our approaches and would laugh or smile much more easily and give us time to vibe. Girls in GDL were polite, but often shut down things before they could even start.

5. I thought the city in general had a cooler feel and more character overall. It has a gentle breeze consistently flowing through it so the sunshine and the breeze make the weather great. If I had to live in one I would choose MTY.

6. Most internet attention I have ever received from any city for young 7s. 20+ Whatsapp numbers from solid quality young girls, 100+ matches and conversations. Online was 3x better than GDL in general. The quality online in how often you saw cute girls around matched my real life experience. I could make a comedy movie of the amount of ways I was flaked on or given excuses though when it was time to meet up. It was holy week before Easter and many chicks were out of town, though many more chicks still in town did not end up wanting to meet.

So I went 0 for 100 on back in forth conversations that lead to nothing. The most work I have ever put in on pipelining with zero results.

[fvitterbi]

Travesty, you got it pretty right, it's not a race thing,
it's a fear of the unknown and GDL is a gaming nightmare,
I had posted about it months ago. They have a huge desconfianza factor and anti-american sentiment that has grown over the years, It's just not as fun a place as it was apparently many years ago. The American novelty is completely gone. Too much money, everyone rolls up in UberBlacks to the clubs, you get the idea.

But moreover, unlike Los Angeles or Colombia where there are many races and women just want a generally attractive guy, Guadalajara is like the 60's in the U.S. It's not racism, it's a fear of the unknown, and a general way they treat people with color like 2nd class citizens. It hasn't evolved. I lived there for 6 months and one thing I noticed, the darker skinned girls who really weren't very dark were treated like shit by the lighter-skinned girls and super excited to meet a gringo and they covered their faces in a ton of lightenting makeup.

GDL is very elitist. Colombia is the exact opposite, they just don't care what race or color you are. It's all about natural attraction. One thing I learned about GDL near the end and I kick myself for it now, is that the girls don't want to be seen with anyone of color in public but they are down to bang if you can figure out the logistics. I learned to get them to my room as quickly as possible they are so elitist, they don't even want to be seen with an American unless he has light eyes or light hair, they go apeshit for light eyes.

My black friends there did well, but not because they were dating girls, they would hand out their numbers and basically invite the girls over for sex. Every girls there has an attraction for a good looking in shape black guy, but not in public. You would be amazed at how well this worked , teh girls would message the guys late at night after the clubs and they'd go pick them up.

Monterrey seems to be like Santiago, Dominican Republic, everyone says its so tough, but the majority of guys are your light-skinned , light eyed gringos. The hottest light skinned girls in Santiago are extremely attracted to dark skin, they want what they don't have. Think the opposite. I'm half Indian with brown skin and did extremely well there with just gorgeous women! but It was a bit depressing because I couldn't date girls, I had to arrange dates in private places and then get the girls back to my place. They really didn't want to be seen with me in public,.
They didn't even want to go to the movies or anything normal with me.

Just my 2 cents after failing miserably in GDL and learning from my mistakes as a brown gringo.

btw-Coverdoc, whats up bradda? hooked up anyone with your chick's friends who were already on tinder dates lately haha? That night was ridiculous... I miss DF, man that colombian girl at that party was smokin, you remember her? DF is such a strange place.

I'm down to visit Monterrey, this reminds me exactly of Santiago, DR