[Chaos]

(10-18-2014 09:44 AM)Cunnilinguist Wrote:  

@chaos, you have met a lot of Russians? even if you met 200 Russians who happened to have a 'white power' mentality, it still would say nothing about the majority of the population. Most Russians don't give a rat's ass about hiTler or Nazism. Russia is one of the most diverse nations on earth. Get back to me after you've lived in the northern caucuses for instance, where dozens and dozens of nationalities exist in peace, tthe war in Chechnya notwithstanding.

I have met plenty yes.
You are probably right about the majority population, and I also know that Russia is extremely diverse. I dare to say I've visited more places in Russia than what Russians have, and I have seen that Russians comes in many colours and shapes.
It doesn't change the fact that a white power mentality certainly exists.
You must know what white Russians call all the gastarbeiters from Central Asia and Causcasus.

I know you are Russian.
For how long have you lived in Northern Caucasus?
I remember very well how it was in Beslan. Even at the train station there was alot of tension, walls where glued with pictures of "terrorists".
I heard from locals that girls still today get kidnapped into arranged marriages.
I would not call that area as a very peaceful area.
In fact I would call it as the most turbulent area in all Russia.

[Quintus Curtius]

(10-18-2014 09:52 AM)perverted sage Wrote:  

I have a fantasy that i'm a spy for the allied nations and i get caught. Then when they bring me in for interrogation where i find out i'm being interrogated by a smoking hot tall, big boobed blonde blue eyed female nazi officer. Then sometime during the interrogation i break free and fuck the shit out of Helga(she's named that in my fantasy for some reason) in all her holes. She becomes addicted to my dick and changes her loyalty from the nazi party to me then helps me escape and i take her with me because she has useful information and is one good fuck that i later find out is also bisexual but never had threesomes before, so we set out to change that

[Foolsgo1d]

The Nazis had different races fighting for them but it isn't mentioned much due to distortion of history. It wouldn't be good mainstream knowledge about WWII.

Useful idiots as they are.

I also see this admiration for Nazis as a great success with regards to their PR and look. Nazis don't come across as rag-tag or stupid, unlike ISIS. Their belief is tangible, you can see it and feel it rather than believing in some sky fairy.

It is easy to admire something from afar. What the Nazis did wasn't in the best interests of mankind, quite the opposite.

[WestIndianArchie]

(10-18-2014 07:40 AM)Flint Wrote:  

The popularity of neo-Nazism in Russia and Eastern Europe never ceases to puzzle me. After all, in Hitler's worldview Slavs were slave laborers at best, but most of these people were supposed to get exterminated to make room for ethnic Germans and Nordic people. What is this? Lack of knowledge of the Nazi ideology? Self-loathing?

I"ve always read that the American idea of whiteness (and it's twin blackness) have spread all over the world. Lots of European history and popular culture thinks in terms of French race, the German race, the Slavs. And then the concept of "whiteness" took off.

Also, Nazi iconography is popular the world over.

Nothing like walking through Roppongi and being greeted with lots of Swastikas. Arguably it made "sense" in Japan...but Thailand?

http://www.cnn.com/2011/09/28/world/asia...zi-parade/

WIA

[Quintus Curtius]

Yeah, like it or not, Hitler's ghost continues to haunt the world.

[RexImperator]

There was a funny advert for space heaters in Indonesia (I seem to recall) a few years ago that featured a cartoon Hitler saluting. The caption was something like "Declare war on the cold front!"

In the east they don't grasp the level of taboo for that kind of thing which we have in the west.

[TigerMandingo]

(10-18-2014 12:32 PM)Chaos Wrote:  

It doesn't change the fact that a white power mentality certainly exists.
You must know what white Russians call all the gastarbeiters from Central Asia and Causcasus.

I know you are Russian.
For how long have you lived in Northern Caucasus?
I remember very well how it was in Beslan. Even at the train station there was alot of tension, walls where glued with pictures of "terrorists".
I heard from locals that girls still today get kidnapped into arranged marriages.
I would not call that area as a very peaceful area.
In fact I would call it as the most turbulent area in all Russia.

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It doesn't change the fact that a white power mentality certainly exists.

Not sure what you mean by "white power" mentality. A collective conscience that places ethnic Russians at the top of the totem pole? Outside of fringe skinhead groups and nationalistic organizations, no such "mentality" exists. Is there a "white power" mentality in France because of the existence of Front National?

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You must know what white Russians call all the gastarbeiters from Central Asia and Causcasus.

The term "gasterbeiter" has nothing do with race. Although it does have a negative connotation, it simply refers to guest workers from Central Asia, as well as other EE countries (Moldova, Ukraine in particular).

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I heard from locals that girls still today get kidnapped into arranged marriages.

Sources besides anecdotal evidence?

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In fact I would call it as the most turbulent area in all Russia.

As I mentioned, the Chechen War notwithstanding, the vast majority of people in the Northern Caucasus live in peace. I won't deny that the war caused a lot of damage and was exceptional in its brutality; nevertheless, the region is now finally beginning to prosper.

As for Putin, he referred to racists and skinheads as "idiots and provocateurs" (his words not mine). The following short video is in Russian but you can add English subs through settings.

[Goldin Boy]

Damn, they're all sevens or better.

But that girl Anatasia...9/10, WRM = Would Race-Mix.

[Checkmat]

WHF (Would Hate Fuck)

[POASTER]

I had a date with a German girl last night actually.

To be fair, Nazi icons, uniforms, organization were aesthetically pleasing (in a very fascist kinda way). Like that big eagle symbol behind Hitler when he made speeches is badass. The ideology was stupid but the icons were cool.

The swastika is an ancient symbol used by Hindus and ancient Persians.

Hitler's stupidity actually causes a lot of confusion of terms. I wish he used the word "Nordic" or "Germanic" instead of "Aryan." The real aryans are ancient Indians who spread Hindusim. And back then "aryan" didn't have racial significance - it was an old Sanskrit and Persian word that simply meant "noble" .

The similarity in Sanskrit, Persian, Latin, Germanic languages etc doesn't necessarily mean racial similarity as some European philologists theorized in the 19th century.

That being said, I agree with Speakeasy that Slavic (and in my opinion White women generally) are overrated.

[Chaos]

Cunnillinguist.

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Not sure what you mean by "white power" mentality. A collective conscience that places ethnic Russians at the top of the totem pole? Outside of fringe skinhead groups and nationalistic organizations, no such "mentality" exists.

Yes. On the totempole of Russian Federation.

That's bullshit. Even some of the sweetest girls I've met had that mentality.
It doesn't bother me, so I don't care about it.

About the kidnapped girls..
No sources I can prove you with.
I was told this by a girl and her brother from Chechenya who CLAIMED their sister were kidnapped there to this reason.
True or not, I don't know.

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The term "gasterbeiter" has nothing do with race. Although it does have a negative connotation, it simply refers to guest workers from Central Asia, as well as other EE countries (Moldova, Ukraine in particular).

That's not exactly my experience. I never heard Russians refer gasterbeiter to workers from EE. And I never saw them. Perhaps because they blend in well with Russians. But I kept hearing girls call these Central Asians/ Caucasians as "black people"

However. I think these things matters so little so it's not worth a much of discussion.

But I'm curious to know if you ever have been to Northern Caucasus?
And where in Russia you have lived?

[Krusyos]

Just goes to show you that the farther right you go, the prettier the girls are.

[TigerMandingo]

(10-18-2014 05:25 PM)Chaos Wrote:  

But I'm curious to know if you ever have been to Northern Caucasus?
And where in Russia you have lived?

I grew up in Stavropol and have travelled extensively throughout the Caucusus region.

[Maciano]

George had nazi game before it was cool.

[DjembaDjemba]

Waiting for the thread in travel section; "gaming nazi girls as a black guy".

We need datasheets!

[Flint]

(10-18-2014 07:24 PM)DjembaDjemba Wrote:  

Waiting for the thread in travel section; "gaming nazi girls as a black guy".

I started a thread on this issue some time ago. Epic race trolling from all sides ensued. I should have foreseen that.

[BortimusPrime]

I first noticed this in the Czech Republic when talking about the gypsies, but for some reason it's really hot when a pretty girl is spouting off racist rhetoric. Guess it's the novelty when compared to American girls with their boilerplate SJW blathering.

[L M McCoy]

(10-18-2014 10:01 PM)BortimusPrime Wrote:  

I first noticed this in the Czech Republic when talking about the gypsies, but for some reason it's really hot when a pretty girl is spouting off racist rhetoric. Guess it's the novelty when compared to American girls with their boilerplate SJW blathering.

[Brian Shima]

^seriously!

[Krusyos]

(10-18-2014 10:01 PM)BortimusPrime Wrote:  

I first noticed this in the Czech Republic when talking about the gypsies, but for some reason it's really hot when a pretty girl is spouting off racist rhetoric. Guess it's the novelty when compared to American girls with their boilerplate SJW blathering.

Well, that's because the gypsies genuinely are some of the biggest assholes the world has ever seen. They think they are above the law.

[Akula]

Sorry but this thread is largely scaremongering hype and semi-race trolling with a touch of standard blue-pill PC bait throw in for good measure.

I lived in Moscow for 5+ years and traveled extensively throughout the country and don't think I ever saw one skinhead / Neo-Nazi. Despite being 'warned' about it when I went over by some ABC News special about the "rise of nationalism in Russia' which turned out to be utter garbage.

The Russians were probably the biggest reason the Germans lost in WWII contrary to popular Western traditional thought which has the US as the main 'victors.' They are all well aware of this fact and of all the atrocities committed against Russians by the Nazis as well.

So I don't think Russians generally revere Nazis one bit and in fact they generally don't like them at all, as you're seeing in the Ukraine conflict where state-run Russian TV propaganda is scaring the average Russian into being against the current regime in Kiev bc it's full of far-right "Nazis."

There is no budding "nazi" problem in Russia nor are there millions of women dying to be "Miss Nazi."

FYI, at Russian wedding's you typically see "Na Berlin" (to Berlin) and other ex WWII war slogans still as a patriotic gesture (just as you see them during the recently reinstated military parades).

This doesn't mean the average Russian has an axe to grind against regular Germans however. Most admire their manufacturing capabilities and buy their cars and appliances as they have a good reputation in the country.

Sometimes I really wonder how all these blue pill PC comments and ideas get put into the threads on this forum. If I want to read that type of stuff I can just go to CNN, the major US Networks, the BBC and/or read the NY Times, Wash Post etc.

Sorry but this thread is just another reminder that many people, even on this forum, still have some pretty standard PC/bluepill or whatever ideology you want to call it drilled into them even if they are relatively 'red pill' with regards to women.

You have to realize that the powers that be in Academia, mainstream journalism, Hollywood & much of the government are all largely on the same side as the Feminists and SJWs......they are cut from the same cloth, support one another, give each other the benefit of the doubt etc.

[Alpha]

No one ever said millions of girls, or all Russians. In my original post i noted that it was a small group of racists. If you go read the article you'll see it's all happening only on Facebook. I thought it was funny that girls would want to be "miss Hitler", and i was a little shocked at how hot they were. Everything you're upset about seems to be driven by misunderstanding. Sure a few people in this thread are arguing over Russian mentality, but that doesn't mean it is a blue pill race troll thread.

[Chaos]

I hear you Akula. I agree in most what you say.
But where in this thread is anyone saying about Russians having a grind against Germans? I never heard a Russian inside or outside Russia say a bad thing about Germany or a German.

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Despite being 'warned' about it when I went over by some ABC News special about the "rise of nationalism in Russia' which turned out to be utter garbage.

ABC News special......
Yeah, I know they are exaggerating the nationalism in Russia bigtime with all kinds of videos when some someone is kicking the hell out of some Central Asian guy and they make it look like that stuff is happening every minute.

But I disagree that it's total utter garbage. Putin has never been as popular like right now and pathriotism and nationalism is growing stronger than ever.

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The Russians were probably the biggest reason the Germans lost in WWII contrary to popular Western traditional thought which has the US as the main 'victors.'

I suppose you mean American traditional thought.
At least I was not taught in school that US were the main victors.


I don't know exactly who you are targeting as PC bluepill commenters but I would appreciate if you could namedrop who you are talking about and not refering to "them" and "many" and "some".

[Akula]

(10-19-2014 10:04 AM)Chaos Wrote:  

I hear you Akula. I agree in most what you say.
But where in this thread is anyone saying about Russians having a grind against Germans? I never heard a Russian inside or outside Russia say a bad thing about Germany or a German.

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Despite being 'warned' about it when I went over by some ABC News special about the "rise of nationalism in Russia' which turned out to be utter garbage.

ABC News special......
Yeah, I know they are exaggerating the nationalism in Russia bigtime with all kinds of videos when some someone is kicking the hell out of some Central Asian guy and they make it look like that stuff is happening every minute.

But I disagree that it's total utter garbage. Putin has never been as popular like right now and pathriotism and nationalism is growing stronger than ever.

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The Russians were probably the biggest reason the Germans lost in WWII contrary to popular Western traditional thought which has the US as the main 'victors.'

I suppose you mean American traditional thought.
At least I was not taught in school that US were the main victors.


I don't know exactly who you are targeting as PC bluepill commenters but I would appreciate if you could namedrop who you are talking about and not refering to "them" and "many" and "some".

Chaos I know you have extensive experience traveling throughout Russia so it was not aimed at you as I value and respect your knowledge and commentary. I also understand where you are coming from for the most part. And when I referred to the traditional view on "who won WWII" yeah I meant the traditional American point of view (where we were always taught we won it all!! ).

But many other posts seemed indicative of people who have never been to Russia or understand very well, or, worse, believe what their country's mainstream press is telling them at the moment (which is mostly highly negative due to the current situation in Ukraine, but also largely wrong and biased, especially due to the "Putin Hating" mainstream media frenzy. Hillary Clinton did compare Putin's actions to what Hitler did mind you).

The posts that struck me as off or just too exaggerated were things like these:

"The popularity of neo-Nazism in Russia and Eastern Europe never ceases to puzzle me." (what "Popularity" in Russia?)

"I think for many today, worshiping Nazis or Hitler is a way of rebelling against Communism, multiculturalism, etc. " (Many?)

"I also see this admiration for Nazis as a great success with regards to their PR and look. (ok, but where is all this "admiration? Are you implying it's widespread in Russia? again it's not, not even close)

I guess when I read through the thread it smacked me that the tone had turned into a general acceptance that in Russia there is a growing Nazi problem - lookout!!" Nothing could be further from the truth. Maybe some have strong ethnocentric tendencies (gopniks), but that's not unique to Russia.

Furthermore, as I said in my earlier post, the current situation in Russia, where there is indeed more nationalist propaganda, in fact actually would make them less likely to be fans of "Nazis" simply because the boogeyman that is constantly put on the Russian national news is the supposed Nazi factions in Ukraine hurting ethnic Russians there. And as one poster said Putin has repeatedly spoken out against hooliganism and any sort of "neo-Nazism". So the whole premise is not only false due to history (you know how the Russian lost millions fighting the Nazis) but also to what's currently going on there on account of the Ukraine situation.

So I don't think there is a "Neo-Nazi movement anywhere in Russia and frankly it's way less prominent than the mainstream media say it is elsewhere. It's just a scaremongering tactic to get us to all stay in line and worry about something and also a way of morally equivocating the transgressions of what some others have done (for example, what Islamic immigrants have done throughout the rest of Europe on the anti-Semitism front (i.e. Malmo, the stuff that's gone on in France, etc.). So when people complain the mainstream press on always pointing out some fringe neo-Nazi movement somewhere to 'morally equivocate' even if the #s of attacks and transgressions are nowhere near the same).

Edit: Maybe these girls are mostly from Ukraine?

[tiggaling]

Only Alina Voronina does it for me. That Ukrainian traditional costume, exposing the naked shoulder, in the wheatfield.



Her hobby of holocaust revisionism is far from a turn off.