I want to have one done when i'm not broke
to find out more about my bloodline. Anybody here ever had this done before ? what company did you use for the test ? what was your experience doing so ? what did your result look like ?
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ometimes genetic tests aren’t as useful as you think they will be. For example, if President Obama were to take a common ancestry DNA test, it would almost certainly come back as 100% Caucasian. Useful, huh?
This sort of test, a mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) test, can look into the deep past but it can only see mom’s side of the family
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The most useful tests, the autosomal ones that look at all our DNA, can only go back four or five generations before becoming hopelessly jumbled. For most African-Americans, this isn’t far enough back to find their African ancestors.
The other kind of test, the Y chromosome test, can go as far back along the paternal line as the mtDNA test can along the maternal line but it suffers from the same problems. In fact, a surprising number (35%?) of African-American men actually have Caucasian Y chromosomes (well, given plantation life, maybe not so surprising). None of these men will learn anything about their African heritage with this test.
Quote: (10-15-2014 06:12 PM)Sonsowey Wrote:
I have done one and it was fascinsting and 100% worth it. I used 23andme.com which cost $100. If you buy multiple tests at once they knock off 10 dollars from the cost per unit.
My ancestry was mostly unsurprising, but I did find one big surprise. I am white and Jewish, but my mother always said she was a small part Native American. She had the name of her Native American ancestor, his tribe, his city, but it was jot true. However I did discover that I was a small part black, exactly the proportion you would expect if that "Native American" ancestor was replaced by a black one. Someone somewhere along the line invented that lie and it carried on for possibly 200 years.
The above poster states that some tests might find Obamaa to be 100% white. That is misleading.
If you use 23andme you get a pretty extensive review of your ancestry by descent of particular regions on your chromosomes. This gives you a full picture, and would show Obama to be half black and half white, unless his parents had some interesting surprises in their past.
Seperately, you will get analysis of your Motochondrial DNA and your Y chromosome DNA. This is different than your nuclear DNA, because neither representsa mix of your two parents.
Your Y chromosome came unmixed from your father. His came from his father, and so on. Your mitochondrial DNA is passed down to you from your mother alone, hers from her mother, etc. You will not pass your mitochondrial DNA on to your children, only their mother will.
Throughout time, our DNA accumulates mutations. Many mutations are functionally useless, they do nothing for our survival, good or bad. But scientists are able to look at specific mutations to your Y chromosome and Motochondrial DNA and determinewhen and where they arose, through studies of old bones.
These mutations that they look at are called Haplotypes. So if Obama had his Y haplotype analyzed, it would be an African one, since it came from his paternal line. And his mitochondrial DNA haplotype would be a "European" one. This is assuming both his parents truly are fully blooded African and European.
But many haplotypes originated tens of thousands of years ago, and the people who carry them today are not living where it originated. For instance, both.my parents are White but both their haplotypes originated something like 40,000 years ago in the Middle East. That doesnt mean they are middle eastern, just that they have ancestors long long ago who were.
Around 10,000 years ago, people from the fertile crescent, who were among the first people to develop agriculture, spread in to Europe. Southern Europeans are largely descended from these people, so it is common for Italians, Greeks, etc. To have haplotypes that originated in the middle east.
As you can tell I love to talk about this so feel free to ask away.
Quote: (10-15-2014 06:12 PM)Sonsowey Wrote:
I have done one and it was fascinsting and 100% worth it. I used 23andme.com which cost $100. If you buy multiple tests at once they knock off 10 dollars from the cost per unit.
My ancestry was mostly unsurprising, but I did find one big surprise. I am white and Jewish, but my mother always said she was a small part Native American. She had the name of her Native American ancestor, his tribe, his city, but it was jot true. However I did discover that I was a small part black, exactly the proportion you would expect if that "Native American" ancestor was replaced by a black one. Someone somewhere along the line invented that lie and it carried on for possibly 200 years.
Quote: (10-15-2014 09:23 PM)Sourcecode Wrote:
So many white people in America try to claim they are part Native American via some feature..like ability to get a tan better ect.. when rarely are people part native America.
Quote: (10-15-2014 09:15 PM)perverted sage Wrote:Sage,
Thank you all for your comments. The main reason why i want to have this done is that my great grandparents came to suriname from india and very little is known about them and where from india they cam from.
BTW i don't look like the indian dude holding the phone in the pic when fun is made of the indian race troll.
instead i look like this dude but with light brown skin:
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Quote: (10-15-2014 06:24 PM)tattiemasher Wrote:
Mines was mostly as expected, with a 0.1% surprise from halfway around the world.
Quote: (10-15-2014 08:26 PM)Deluge Wrote:
@Sonsowey most if not all Middle Eastern ethnic groups have some level of gene flow from sub-Saharan Africa, so if you're half Jewish that should not be surprising at all. Same goes for people with any ancestors from Spain, Portugal and Sicily, either from their Arab ruled periods for all three or Sephardi Jews in the Middle Ages for the former two.
Quote: (10-15-2014 10:49 PM)MrXY Wrote:
Quote: (10-15-2014 09:23 PM)Sourcecode Wrote:
So many white people in America try to claim they are part Native American via some feature..like ability to get a tan better ect.. when rarely are people part native America.
Not sure the basis of that statement, intermarriage and interbreeding between whites and Native Americans has been common for centuries.
Quote: (10-16-2014 07:13 AM)Krusyos Wrote:
The funny thing with my last name is that back in Poland, some petty nobles had the name as well as a clan of Jews. It'll be interesting to see which one I am.
Quote: (10-15-2014 07:28 PM)vinman Wrote:
Welcome aboard Bruh!