[whosyourdaddy]

(04-03-2011 09:01 PM)GiovanniRio Wrote:  

(04-03-2011 06:16 PM)whosyourdaddy Wrote:  

Are you at least getting play working the whole exotic, dark haired guy thing?

Just curious, are people pegging you as Middle Eastern/Muslim or as an American?

Pretending to be -or looking like an Arab guy will NOT work well in Western (or Eastern) Europe . But I'm now also curious to know what the game is Roosh is using. The girls in Denmark, with game or not, are rather ugly though...

I agree with metalhaze: you'll find the hottest girls (all models) during summer in the South of France, but... also the hardest once to get. So it's the ideal time to test game and adapt it: they are all extremely beautiful (natural), have culture & good backgrounds, high education and money, while still being feminine.

Playing up your Muslim background may not help, but i've seen lots of blond european girls specifically seek dark haired guys.

When i visited Sweden many years ago, my friends next door neighbor had an American boyfriend very similar to Dan Cortese and he was from CA. I also met a pretty hot Dutch girl looking for "hot latinos" in Mexico City. I also knew a hot German girl who married a half Turkish half German guy who looked pretty Italian looking and guess where i met them? In Norway.

Not to mention Mixx's Slovenia report where he made a killing working the latino angle.

[Hooligan Harry]

What did you expect in a feminist coven? They are years ahead of everyone else when it comes to this. Yes they are liberal and will fuck easy if they like you, but the problem is that they are so far down the path of removing gender from society they have no idea what they want anymore. Its a socialist pit, with prices through the roof because everything is unionised, taxes are sky high and welfare systems are so good you can almost maintain a middle class lifestyle on them. And no offense

I think Scandanavian women are attractive, but they lack the femininity of the EE women.

If you want hot blonde women, go to Estonia, Lativia, Lithuania and Poland. You will find that they are a little more pleasant, whith those regions offering more by the way of things to do at cheaper prices.

[Badstuber]

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Not to mention Mixx's Slovenia report where he made a killing working the latino angle.

Slovenia is way different than north-western Europe in terms of skin color etc.

[Hooligan Harry]

Also, this is 2011. The perception of people from the middle east has changed a bit over the last 10 years.

Its not a disadvantage, but its not an advantage either. People get way too caught up in this "yeah, you different, the girls will be mounting you on the streets son!" nonsense.

[glassjawed]

(04-03-2011 09:35 PM)Ajiaco Wrote:  

.I mean, touristically speaking, what's in Sweden anyway? Look what they did to Julian Assange up there after all...nobody's gonna be baking you any cookies, that's for sure.

I swore off sweden after i heard about this. Honestly, it´s very easy to get convicted of rape in sweden for absolutely no reason.

[familydude]

Roosh, no idea if you're missing something in scandinavia. But there's an opportunity cost in remaining there:

The most enjoyable time for EE is from march through may. Last weekend I had two groups of american kids ask me for direction for the nearest popular meat market. Never happens in winter. Next thing you know cities will be empty and it's time to go to the beaches.

[kerouac]

Why not go to Hungary/Estonia/E.E in the spring, before all the honeys go down to Croatia etc for the Summer?

[billy]

What the hell are you even thinking of in Denamrk ,Too many dikes and the straight women act like dykes, Sweden may be better but you should be headed for the promised lands, Baltics and the rest of Eastern Europe. Go east, and go quickly befire the summer starts and they head off around europe or their own summer capitals.

[peterthephoenix]

@kickboxer
Don't waste your time coming to New Zealand for the women (come for the sights/tourism).
The only hot girls you'll bang will be foreigners.

[Peoloom]

Swedes tend to be extremely guarded, it's difficult to meet people there without a local contact. TBH your best bet for meeting hot Scandinavians is to head to a resort capital for the summer -- Sunny Beach in Bulgaria, any of the Greek islands, Dubrovnik, etc.

[Roosh]

(04-03-2011 06:16 PM)whosyourdaddy Wrote:  

Are you at least getting play working the whole exotic, dark haired guy thing?

Just curious, are people pegging you as Middle Eastern/Muslim or as an American?

I've never gotten so many looks as I have in Denmark. I've also never turned down so much sex (from hideous beasts). The ugly girls make it very clear they want to fuck, but they don't even pass the boner test so that's nothing to get excited about.

Though in Iceland I got approached more by cuter girls.

The Muslim guys here are dark and into the hip-hop look from 10 years ago. They have zero game and don't even step foot into the bars I go to. I tell girls my parents are from the Middle East and it helps with the exotic factor. A couple girls said I looked "Latin," which tells me that type would do well here.

I've also noticed that "cool" black guys (not African fobs) with decent girls, moreso than in Iceland.

(04-03-2011 09:35 PM)Ajiaco Wrote:  

I also feel like you've had a lot more "angry" posts from this trip than when you were in Latin America. All the stuff about how you could never take orders from a woman, how women never know what their talking about...that all seemed further from your mind closer to the equator.

Sometimes a post sits on my hard drive for up to 4 months until it makes it to the blog. What you've seen the past month was written in Iceland or America.

(04-03-2011 10:10 PM)Hooligan Harry Wrote:  

What did you expect in a feminist coven? They are years ahead of everyone else when it comes to this. Yes they are liberal and will fuck easy if they like you, but the problem is that they are so far down the path of removing gender from society they have no idea what they want anymore.

You completely nailed it. In Scandinavia androgeny is valued. Males have feminine traits and females have masculine traits. It's very hard to differentiate between the two. I've noticed this in the U.S., but in Denmark it's much worse.

(04-04-2011 12:09 AM)familydude Wrote:  

Next thing you know cities will be empty and it's time to go to the beaches.

Before my trip I knew that I would be eating June-August. I'm prepared for that and will probably focus on second-tier, working-class cities.

[Rocco81]

Denmark like most of Northern Europe really is the home for the natural tall, fit , blonde bueaty. What I mean is that naturally they have those good genes. What has happened however is that the liberal feminazi movement (the same movement that encourages them to mix race, have children unwed, be "independant" and "free") is what has completely ruined them. In just a few shorts years from 2001 to 2007 I could tell a marked change in Germany from the two times I had gone there.

The move toward the more "natural" look leaning toward the grainy hippy, no make up, being fatter and just looking more dingy and granola in general was becoming very popular there. They seemed to beleive that a man should want to fuck them by listening to the BS that they had read in some feminazi book or been told on their gender, racial and culturally neutral televisions.

Also the move toward women lifting weights, taking martial arts, and trying to act tougher and again "independant" was in more fashion than before. True sickness and totally against what nature has ingrained in us.

[Gmac]

(04-04-2011 11:28 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

Sometimes a post sits on my hard drive for up to 4 months until it makes it to the blog. What you've seen the past month was written in Iceland or America.

I thought I was the only one who did that. I have something around 10 incomplete posts waiting for me to finish putting the time/effort into.

[thegmanifesto]

(04-04-2011 01:01 PM)Gmac Wrote:  

(04-04-2011 11:28 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

Sometimes a post sits on my hard drive for up to 4 months until it makes it to the blog. What you've seen the past month was written in Iceland or America.

I thought I was the only one who did that. I have something around 10 incomplete posts waiting for me to finish putting the time/effort into.

Gmac -

Hell, I have at least 250.

[Pepini]

Roosh you don´t have to cross an ocean to travel to EE. Just buy a weekend ticket and bath yourself in the Eastern European waters. Try some polish secondary city .

Aso try Aarhus in Denmark.

http://www.flylowcostairlines.org/low-co...hagen.html


http://www.norwegian.com/flight/tips/?D_...&rnd=85704

[Aliblahba]

I'd hop over to Helsinki. The Finnish girls I talked to were easy to open and very attractive. A group of 8 opened me in Tallin but my dumbass froze up.

[beebopaloo]

(04-04-2011 11:44 AM)Rocco81 Wrote:  

Also the move toward women lifting weights, taking martial arts, and trying to act tougher and again "independant" was in more fashion than before. True sickness and totally against what nature has ingrained in us.

As a Dane, I thought I might put down my 50 cents - please take note that I am not particularly crazy about my Danish sisters, I am just trying to state things as objectively as possible:


-I know girls who does jogging and aerobics, but I am sorry, I don't know a single woman who lift weights or train martial arts. That's definitely not a trend among Danish girls. On the other side of the spectrum, the vast majority of girls I know check out fashion blogs, are shopaholics and are obsessive about their looks.

Thing is, in scandinavian countries 'the natural' look is highly appreciated, so you don't see a lot of fake tans and tits, dyed hair, boobs jumping out of the shirt etc. Instead you'll get what you might call a 'fashion blog' girl, or somebody that you'd like to show off to your parents.

-Personality-wise Danish girls are, in my opinion, a 100 times less obnoxious and outspoken compared to, say English or Australian girls.

- I know quite many foreigners who live in Copenhagen and they all, without exception, comment on how good everybody looks (both guys and girls). Tim Ferriss wrote that you could cast a pepsi cola commercial just from walking in to a random 7/11.

- Girls, also the hot ones, hook up with guys, have SNL's etc. If you aren't exceptionally good looking it might be necessary with some micro-celeb status, shared social circle or elite game to get with them. I think the same probably applies to most of the top tier bars and clubs in capitals in western european countries.

-Sweden (except that houses are made of tree instead of bricks) is not gonna offer you a very different experience.


Bottom line:
-Roosh, I think you have been spoiled by spending too much time in Brazil and Colombia. I think what is the case in Denmark, could be said about most hyper developed countries in Europe.
It'd be funny to hear what you opinion would be, had you first gone to countries like Germany, England and France.

To me, the point is, when you realize how much better attitudes and availability you can find in the 3rd world, it is hard to go back.

[tomtud]

Chalk this one up as a learning experience.... You are still young, you have plenty of time to visit other places. Myself, being from eastern europe I can attest to the fact that women are more traditional and at the same time have a modern twist. Countries where army service is mandatory and where men typically travel to work in western europe will give the tourist the ratio that is in our favour.

With all due respect.... perhaps checking out a latin bar in those cities and maybe you can hit up a convo with a "maria passapuerte" or a latina immigrant. Since the locals ain't cutting it or giving you attention, go to what works best and where you are comfortable. Your social status with her will hit the roof seeing how travelled you are etc.... so, that angle I personally would try....as well,,, your exotic look may come into play as local scandi women going to those bars may dig your look... (just like brazilian gals as previously mentioned in other posts,,,,,, those who like gringos will go to gringo bars or be interested in American culture).... so good luck if you go that route.

[LostGringo]

(04-04-2011 05:08 PM)beebopaloo Wrote:  

(04-04-2011 11:44 AM)Rocco81 Wrote:  

Also the move toward women lifting weights, taking martial arts, and trying to act tougher and again "independant" was in more fashion than before. True sickness and totally against what nature has ingrained in us.

As a Dane, I thought I might put down my 50 cents - please take note that I am not particularly crazy about my Danish sisters, I am just trying to state things as objectively as possible:


-I know girls who does jogging and aerobics, but I am sorry, I don't know a single woman who lift weights or train martial arts. That's definitely not a trend among Danish girls. On the other side of the spectrum, the vast majority of girls I know check out fashion blogs, are shopaholics and are obsessive about their looks.

Thing is, in scandinavian countries 'the natural' look is highly appreciated, so you don't see a lot of fake tans and tits, dyed hair, boobs jumping out of the shirt etc. Instead you'll get what you might call a 'fashion blog' girl, or somebody that you'd like to show off to your parents.

-Personality-wise Danish girls are, in my opinion, a 100 times less obnoxious and outspoken compared to, say English or Australian girls.

- I know quite many foreigners who live in Copenhagen and they all, without exception, comment on how good everybody looks (both guys and girls). Tim Ferriss wrote that you could cast a pepsi cola commercial just from walking in to a random 7/11.

- Girls, also the hot ones, hook up with guys, have SNL's etc. If you aren't exceptionally good looking it might be necessary with some micro-celeb status, shared social circle or elite game to get with them. I think the same probably applies to most of the top tier bars and clubs in capitals in western european countries.

-Sweden (except that houses are made of tree instead of bricks) is not gonna offer you a very different experience.


Bottom line:
-Roosh, I think you have been spoiled by spending too much time in Brazil and Colombia. I think what is the case in Denmark, could be said about most hyper developed countries in Europe.
It'd be funny to hear what you opinion would be, had you first gone to countries like Germany, England and France.

To me, the point is, when you realize how much better attitudes and availability you can find in the 3rd world, it is hard to go back.

Spot on. That is pretty much my take on Denmark and Sweden - not to mention South America. I'm a gringo, but my parents are from Sweden and I work in the airline business and have been traveling all over western and eastern Europe for many years. Pilots are the some of the worlds most committed gash hounds and nobody I know wastes their time in Scandinavia. The women, while beautiful, are exactly the opposite of what I am looking for. If you want the most economically/socially "liberated" women on the planet, look no farther than the nordic countries. They are also extremely difficult and indifferent to the efforts of aggressive men. Don't even get me started on the cost of living.

You will find most the same in the rest of western Europe. I go to France and Spain to eat and drink wine. I take women with me to those places. Great to visit, horrible to chase women. There is a reason why Ryanair, easyJet, Wizzair are filled to capacity with horny men escaping the W. European capitals for Eastern Europe.

Eastern Europe WAS epic - before the rise of discount airlines, which opened the place up to every dipshit with a few pounds/Euros and dreams of weekend romps with supermodels. There still are some good places, but the low hanging fruit was picked a long time ago. I would head directly to EE and spend the rest of my holiday cash there. Pick a place and snag an apartment and get on it. Personally, I would pass on Prague, Budapest, the Baltics and Poland. I prefer the southern Balkans/Romania/Moldova; beautiful girls and far less "fishing pressure". Don't even think about Russia. Ukraine is decent for hunting, but the place is really grim and the food is shit. Apartments are beyond stupid expensive.

The good news. If there is a "promised land" - you've been there, at least in my opinion. I lived in SA for 5 years (Argentina/Chile) and have travelled everywhere - in comfort and with money (big difference, duh). While the quality of life is certainly higher in Europa, the life for a single man is certainly better in Latin America. If you add in the cost of living, there is no comparison. Yes, the women are tougher in Argentina, and yes, they are certainly flakey in Colombia. But I would take that action any day over some cold WestEuro-bitch or your typical gold-digging EEuro-trash.

I also lived in Asia. Aside from great street food and beaches - I'll take a pass.

I will retire in South America. Most likely in Rosario or Buenos Aires. I might import a chica from southern Brasil (Porto Alegre, Curitiba) when I tire of the "hysterica" bullshit.

[rudebwoy]

Lost Gringo - for your first post that was awesome. I agree with you totally, why don't you give us some more intel and reports.

[Roosh]

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I know quite many foreigners who live in Copenhagen and they all, without exception, comment on how good everybody looks (both guys and girls). Tim Ferriss wrote that you could cast a pepsi cola commercial just from walking in to a random 7/11.

I wish I could agree with that. I've found Danish girls to rate consistently low, much lower than the guys. It's common for me to see a decent looking Danish guy with a homely girlfriend. In Iceland I'd break my neck every so often but not here.

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To me, the point is, when you realize how much better attitudes and availability you can find in the 3rd world, it is hard to go back.

Yeah I made the comment in my Brazil video that I may have already found the "best" spot.

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If you want the most economically/socially "liberated" women on the planet, look no farther than the nordic countries. They are also extremely difficult and indifferent to the efforts of aggressive men.

Scandinavia is the only place I've been where aggressiveness is NOT valued by women. Beforehand I thought it was universal trait that women select for.

Why not Poland or Russia?

[Kurupt]

Roosh if you go to Russia definitely give someone your forum admin powers back home so they can keep it going in case you don't come back alive. If you're moving east of the curtain...start slow until you get used to it, go to Krakow first.

Not implying anything bad will happen, but this site has now become a goldmine, especially with people like LostGringo making such great first posts.

[Brian]

I've heard stories about Russia that would make me nervous going there alone. I had a friend go into a bar w/a buddy, order drinks, and after about 10 minutes they both got that "uh oh" feeling where they knew they had been drugged. they left ASAP, ran back to their car, got in, locked the doors, and passed out for hours.

[FretDancer]

Come to Central America man

[Kurupt]

(04-04-2011 09:30 PM)Brian Wrote:  

I've heard stories about Russia that would make me nervous going there alone. I had a friend go into a bar w/a buddy, order drinks, and after about 10 minutes they both got that "uh oh" feeling where they knew they had been drugged. they left ASAP, ran back to their car, got in, locked the doors, and passed out for hours.

Hahaha drink spikes you!

If this is true i gotta add it to the very long list of epic stories I've heard from just about any foreigner visiting Russia. Which city was this, if you don't mind me asking? Sounds like St. Pete.

What people have to realize about Russia is it will never have western style democracy or freedoms. It will always be in this constant state of batshit fucked up. People say things like: "Russia should really clean up its act, it's going to lose so much money if tourism drops." The last thing Russia wants is tourists. The country barely cares about its own citizens, much less the satisfaction of visitors. There have been countless thinkers and intellectuals, Russian and foreign alike, who have proposed ways to "reform" and "modernize" Russia for the best. Some have even succeeded in ruling the nation and trying out the theories. At the end of the day, its a hell of a quirky country, and as such will never lose its appeal for the jaded few who are tired of travel to friendly nations.