I've written on this forum a couple dozen times that you can save "a lot of" money in China once you understand how ESL works and know how to build clients. Of course "a lot" is always relative---I've been saving between USD 9 to 11K per month here since really getting my schedule ironed out about 6 months ago. I'd have to gross several hundred thousand dollars per year to do that in the States, once cost of living is factored in.
I teach a subject at an international school and then corporate English on the side. Even though we had a seven day holiday this month, which really cut into my part-time hours, I'm still going to clear over RMB 60,000 for the month. My total expenses will be around RMB 2,000 because my employer pays for housing and meals at school.
The thing is, I work a lot, which limits my free time, and have experience in this field. Absolute newbs are not going to pull in this kind of money. Think more around USD 4 or 5K per month once you get some gigs going as a newbie.
A relative newcomer can earn expect to earn RMB 200 to 300 per hour teaching in SH. Someone experienced can make upwards of 500 to 900 per hour doing corporate training.
Back to girls: There are dudes on this forum elevating Chinese women above Thai and Pinay women and I wonder daily what the fuck they're looking at. I don't see this elevation in ANY tangible metric except for maybe your chances of bagging a rich broad. There are a lot of spoiled Chinese girls with too much money.... The things is they have shitty, one-dimensional personalities and are, physically, much less attractive than ALL of their Asian counterparts. Don't go into this thinking that you're going to get some submissive, domesticated housewife. They're not going to be able to cook for you (unless you like oil-fried oil with a dash of simple carbohydrates) and all of China is filthy (including households).
I have an electric scooter, which is great for people watching, and play a game with myself every day to see how many chicks I can count on my 10-minute drive to or from work that I would bang. I'm estimating that I pass by 1,000 females on each leg of the trip, and I'll see one head turner (maybe) once a week.
(For me) They are mostly immediately dismissable--- bad skin, shitty hair cuts, and potato-like bodies.
Then again, if you're looking for women with low standards, this place works. They are ugly, so they will be more inclined to go out with less attractive partners. I just can't see the benefit of chasing girls in China after living in better parts of Asia. I'll continue to sock away "significant amounts" of cash and wait until I'm a bit closer to financial independence, which is something you really can achieve with a few years here.
Another thing... Nightlife in Shanghai is not cheap. Drinks will run RMB 50 to 100 at "decent" bars and clubs (they can still be formaldehyde, a common alcohol substitute in China). This is not Stockholm, so WTF is going on with the prices?
Quote: (10-16-2014 06:24 PM)extracube Wrote:
Quote: (10-14-2014 09:07 PM)TroubleMaker Wrote:
I tend to agree. Chinese to me, just seem so...
That is likely just about true that Chinese girls don't rank the highest, but sometimes certain "things" or certain ways of talking or just looking is what might turn a guy on more than a simple 1-10 scale of international standards. I think it is pretty much fact that a lot of the Korean women often rank 8 and above, and really tend to take care to doll themselves up more -- yet for a few guys, Chinese girls might pique their desires.
@jdreise, from all that I heard so far, China was on the low end of the payscale not only for Asia but for much of the world, in regards to expats. I admit I don't have inside knowledge, just what I've read around for years.