[rudebwoy]

There is no doubt smiling will attract people to you. I tend to have a scowl or look on my face that says don't even bother messing with me.

[MrXY]

I find having a knowing smirk on my face as if I'm enjoying my secret thoughts and entertaining myself is very intriguing and attractive to women

[Kish]

A great smile is great game.

[Bad Hussar]

(03-25-2013 02:59 PM)MrXY Wrote:  

I find having a knowing smirk on my face as if I'm enjoying my secret thoughts and entertaining myself is very intriguing and attractive to women

I have the same smirk much of the time. Is usually good with girls, but guys obviously hate it. It's like a challenge. Nearly got into a fistfight with some random dude once who thought I was "disrespecting" him since my smirk could only mean that I was thinking private thoughts that cast him in a negative light.

Note to self: Try not to smirk around mentally unbalanced men who have the potential to do me physical harm.

[RCron]

(03-26-2013 11:49 AM)Bad Hussar Wrote:  

(03-25-2013 02:59 PM)MrXY Wrote:  

I find having a knowing smirk on my face as if I'm enjoying my secret thoughts and entertaining myself is very intriguing and attractive to women

I have the same smirk much of the time. Is usually good with girls, but guys obviously hate it. It's like a challenge. Nearly got into a fistfight with some random dude once who thought I was "disrespecting" him since my smirk could only mean that I was thinking private thoughts that cast him in a negative light.

Note to self: Try not to smirk around mentally unbalanced men who have the potential to do me physical harm.

Like any other aspects of game it comes down to calibration. What works on gaming women is likely not going to be effective in platonic interactions with men. For example, when chatting with a random dude I'm not going to be escalating kino, doing push/pull and the like. It shouldn't be any different as to when to display a cheeky grin.

[MHaes]

"He smiled understandingly–much more than understandingly. It was one of those rare smiles with a quality of eternal reassurance in it, that you may come across four or five times in life. It faced–or seemed to face–the whole external world for an instant, and then concentrated on you with an irresistable prejudice in your favor. It understood you just so far as you wanted to be understood, believed in you as you would like to believe in yourself and assured you that it had precisely the impression of you that, at your best, you hoped to convey."

-F. Scott Fitzgerald on reaching the pinnacle of SmileGame about 90 years ago.

[InternationPlayboy]

If you have a nice smile it can do wonders. Good IOI too if you shoot a girl a smile from across the room and she smiles back. This means approach immediately.

[gandt]

I love this thread so much... Smiling is the difference between giving off a fun playful vibe or coming off as creepy.

"you can talk as dirty as your want to women, as long as your do it with a smile"

Admittedly, I need to smile more often. I think some practicing in the mirror is required to find the perfect balance between a fun loving guy and a cheesy fake smile.

Alfie thread is awesome.

[IpsaScientiaPotestasEst]

Not to sound like a douche, but this should be a basic tenant of game-smiling and being a happy person. Now I know (especially being American and possible differences to us vs. Canadians or Europeans or whoever else) that this can come off fake, which there is a definite difference between being full of it and genuinely being a relaxed/chill/happy person. (Just all the Euros I met in DC would complain how Americans could come off fake at times and about basically how our 'small talk' conversations could come off as fake to them, but HEY-to each their own). A person who smiles sends off a number of good signals without saying a single word-and you can signal someone from a distance. As per the day game hack (I came into my own/really grew up in the Southern US where people are really talkative, and waited tables for years where if you're good with people you'll do well-so thats just my background with this)-a good way to learn or get better at game is just approaching/talking to people wherever you go. A genuine smile is a way to disarm people QUICKLY. Also chemicals in your body literally make you feel better/more positive when you smile. (I dare you to smile...now NOT like a Cheesester Terminator 2 style! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkrjitslCSE This scene demonstrates it PERRRFECT).

This is also without mentioning Mirror Neurons, which is a subject I first read about several years ago on another game site, and it was JUST being discovered back then. It's been backed up by more research and become legit. Basically, people have neurons that intrinsically can read how you're feeling through your body language and non verbals. If you're comfortable, other people will FEEL that. If you're nervous and uncomfortable-people will then start to feel that themselves and basically you end up shooting yourself in the foot.

At the end of the day, a smile is a GREAT ice breaker and literally a good smile/eye contact (if reciprocated back from her twice or so) can literally be all the opening/green light you need to make an approach-let alone you've already opened them nonverbally. I see no reason to not be smiling more often and enjoying life, but hey thats just me and I know not everyone does the same thing. Thats the beauty of game.

Good huntin' in the meantime boys

[eatthishomie]

I recently "read" (on Audible, in the car on the way to work) "The Alpha Male's Guide To Mastering The Art Of Small Talk" by Sean Lysaght.

The very first suggestion was to smile more.

This has been suggested to me numerous times by numerous people and for some reason, I kept being a brooding tough guy even though that has gotten me nowhere with most people.

But this time, the neurons finally connected. I've been trying to smile more and people have responded to it well. A woman at my workplace in a different department actually struck up a conversation with me about a week ago.

I think not smiling and being a brooding tough guy has been what is putting people off with me. I will smile more. Nobody fucking likes a brooding tough guy. Not even other brooding tough guys.

Even if you are fucking pissed off all the time and feel like you have nothing to smile about, the mere act of faking a smile improves your mood.

Nothing to smile about? Life sucks? Think about this. There's a fat loss pill on the market called Cuts For The Sluts. If you aren't a humorless PC schoolmarm (which I doubt anyone here is), that should put a smile on your face instanter.

[bradz]

SMILE. So true. I have a naturally serious looking resting facial expression. Guys resting bitch face lol. And I forget to smile when out....but a quick perusal of threads here last week (before a business trip) - saw this and it was a great reminder. I was out on the town and met a gorgeous woman out with friends and family - and let's just say that later that night/morning after .....so much good stuff...she complimented me on my smile a few times.

Thanks guys.

[General Stalin]

On the topic of toothy smiles vs genuine laughter.

The only picture of me smiling that I have ever liked or looked good was a shot from one of my band photoshoots. It was a blooper shot and we're all fucking cracking up and my toothy open mouth looks great and genuinely happy. Aside from that, I either don't know how to smile big or my smile just looks like shit. I smirk and closed mouth smile only.

I don't like my teeth. They are not straight and they are not white. Something ibe wanted to address for a while now I just haven't. Invisalign and whitening would probably do wonders for me.

[Fortis]

For me it has nothing to do with being alpha or macho, I just have a pretty serious face, especially when I'm deep in thought. I walk fast and I like to think as I walk. Sometimes I get pretty caught up in what I'm thinking about.

My father once told me I have serial killer face

At least once a day a chick will smile at me and, before I realize it, the smile is erased off of her face as she sees that I make dead-eyed, cold eye contact.

What I try to do to alleviate this is just put on a slight smirk as I walk around and think about amusing humorous things. It ups my mood and keeps me from feeling like I want to murder everyone.

[Comte De St. Germain]

People tell me I look and act older than I do, but apparently what warms me to them is the fact that I smile(mouth closed no teeth showing) and laugh often. When I'm in good company I can't go without laughing for very long and have atleast a shit eating grin.

It definitely puts me in a better mood at the very least even if it doesn't affect game.

I'd try injecting a bit of humor into life. If nothing else can work for being funny I at the very least try to get an intentionally shitty pun or intentionally shitty sexual innuendo in to lighten the mood whenever I can. That or absurdism. I've had entire conversations sober about what would happen in a world where bananas had the capability to launch nuclear missiles.

[WeekendCasanova]

(09-14-2016 09:50 PM)Fortis Wrote:  

For me it has nothing to do with being alpha or macho, I just have a pretty serious face, especially when I'm deep in thought. I walk fast and I like to think as I walk. Sometimes I get pretty caught up in what I'm thinking about.

My father once told me I have serial killer face

At least once a day a chick will smile at me and, before I realize it, the smile is erased off of her face as she sees that I make dead-eyed, cold eye contact.

What I try to do to alleviate this is just put on a slight smirk as I walk around and think about amusing humorous things. It ups my mood and keeps me from feeling like I want to murder everyone.

I'm in the same boat...

Whenever I send a girl a picture, they always say I look angry, or serious. The smirk in-person definitely helps, and girls end up assuming I'm "mysterious". It's worked in my favour a lot, but I can never seem to take good pictures because of it.

[H1N1]

Smiling is magnetic, if it fits with your appearance and personality. I spent more or less all of my 18-25 period doing everything I could to be a tough guy. I'd always be frowning because I'd be daydreaming about boxing, or fighting, or handling a situation related to my work. I'd avoid dressing 'posh'. When you do this stuff your mind becomes bombarded with really negativity. It works for some people, I'm sure, but it really hurt me. Strangers were never impressed, or particularly convinced, whilst those who really knew me already knew that I had a certain less lovely edge to me.

I am 27, but don't look a day over 20, and am a bit of a pretty boy. Whether I'm tough or not, it really isn't my vibe. I realised how much I'd been holding myself back with that nonsense after a meeting in London. I was wearing an immaculate Saville Row suit I'd inherited from my dad, the meeting had gone very well, and I walked out into the winter sunshine with a real swagger, a twinkle in my eyes, and a big smile on my face. And that's really who I am in my unguarded moments, free from affectation. Anyway, as I walked along, I was getting plenty of attention. Then, on the underground, when I got off at my stop, a very pretty girl got off at the same stop to introduce herself to me. Literally jumped in front of me, caught my eye and my smile, and stopped me to talk to me. She lived a fair distance from me, so nothing much came of it, though it certainly would have had I been more switched on back in those days.

Since then I've been consciously undoing the damage of my 'tough guy' days, though in truth it has been easy, because for all my efforts it was never the type of person I was. I smile a lot these days, it's really always been my default. What's staggering is how easy it is to talk to people, how forthcoming people are if you give them a big conspiratorial grin and just say hello - male and female alike. Whilst it's true that girls are irrepressible whores, they are also quite sweet in many cases, and almost all of them, from the ugliest to the most beautiful, would like nothing more than to wile away a few idle moments talking to an attractive guy who looks like he's having a nice time.

Apart from the intractably self-absorbed, really all it takes is a, 'Hi, how are you', accompanied with a cheeky grin, to give someone, again, male or female, the opportunity they would like but are not necessarily confident enough to create for themselves to talk to someone who looks like they might be interesting or engaging. I've lost track of how many times since I quit my silly behaviour I've just said hello and smiled at the person opposite me on the train, only to have an interesting conversation, or get a pretty girl's phone number, or to find out about something exciting that's going on.

So long as it is genuine, and free from affectation or condescension, a smile is completely disarming. It can break down all the barriers of social class, race, religion etc. If you can give someone a genuine flash of warmth based simply on shared humanity, then very often people show their best sides. One of the nice things about people is that, with a few exceptions, they are actually quite curious, if touchingly predictable in their lines of enquiry.

I don't think this would work very well if it wasn't really who you are though - much like my brooding did me no favours. It's also much less glamourous than the sneering Hollywood leading man look, but no less magnetic as a character type.

[MediumRare]

^jbys?