Quote: (02-23-2015 06:28 AM)bewater Wrote:
1. Make friends girls that have hot friends and which like to party a bit
2. Ask the new (girl)friends to get out clubbing in weekends with their hot friends, but before that to join me and my friends for a pre-drink on some apartment/venue.
I can see this working, though still it won't be the best method for effort spent. Girls in salsa are 99% attention whores. Flaking is on galactic warp-speed. Try it out and see how that works.
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Plan B:
1. Make some (guy)friends and reach their social group. Making sure that I found the type doesn't get jealous of me banging girls from his social circle
2. Getting out with them and their girls. What I like about this approach is that most guys in dancing class are there to meet women, not many good looking, and don't know game. I also don't know much, but if I can help them with some basic advice(but not appear as arrogant player) it might be easy to tap into his social circle, especially if he likes a girl there and wants me there for advice(of course, assuring him I won't hit on his crush).
Yeah good luck with that. Guys in salsa class are bitches. They automatically see you as competition and trying to go through the back door won't work. Even your bros can cockblock you sometimes. What makes you think some guys who by default will have to compete with you for dance partners, will be useful to you?
Not to mention that your alliance of convenience will never mean shit because there will always be a guy who is the dance god in a venue who gets to dance with all the girls. The good news is that sometimes that guy actually don't get laid, but he blocks access to pussy. In salsa if you want to get laid you need to have air-tight isolation skills and be able to impress the girls.
What works for me is to be the "knows everyone but not friend with anyone" approach. In salsa you have to roll solo, but being on acquaintance level with people will give you a lot of social proof and connections. I find that people tend to be nicer with strangers who are very friendly.
@blackandwhite: to answer your questions on isolation and getting numbers:
Getting numbers in salsa DOESN"T MEAN JACK SHIT. You still have to do it but you will know what I'm talking about. I can get the number of all the girls I danced with if I want (and that actually happened) None of those will lead anywhere. Girls in salsa love giving numbers to guys and plus, if you hit it with the "let's go dancing sometimes. What's your number?" it's almost fail safe. Working through those numbers is a fucking chore though.
Isolation is key and is also difficult due to the fact that you switch partners all the time. I hate it when I'm having awesome conversation with a girl and a guy comes in and ask for a dance. Flow broken. Isolation skills are worth a library. Do a search on here and read all you can.
Anyway, this is what works for me:
-Dance with her well and ramp up the sexual stuff a little bit.
-Small talk while running game. Lead the convo towards "I know some excellent dance place. Let's go sometimes"
-Get the number, but continue chatting to her for about a min. Then excuse yourself and go dance with another girl right in front of her. Jealousy/DHV
-Ask her for another dance and continue ramping up your escalation. If you sense that she is into it, suggest a venue change or head outside for some air, where you can game her properly. If that goes well, try to venue change her home.
-Set up date through phone.
**sometimes girls will be pretty forward "let's go out dancing sometimes" In this case strike HARD and FAST. She is already DTF but in salsa she meets tons of new cocks so strike when the iron is hot**
DO NOT be the guy that every girl want to dance with but no girl wants to fuck. I can't explain this but maybe JJG can.
Dance skills are overrated if you are only into gaming. You just need to impress the girls and even intermediate dancers are easy to impress. I'm sometimes off-beat but I don't give a damn and have a strong, clear lead so girls never have a problem with me, EXCEPT the pro dancers, but if you want to game those you need another game, not dance game.
IOI: you will get a lot of IOI in salsa due to the sexual nature of the dance. That said, better to miss a shot than not taking it in the first place. Act on every IOI you receive by making sure that she gives you even more.
IOI AFTER DANCE IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN DURING DANCE. I've had girls caressed her boobs against my face, holding eye contact "kiss me" literally half an inch to my face, rubbing herself against my crotch, only to leave without a backward glance as soon as the song finishes.
However, girls in salsa have invented a secret mating signal and I've caught on it, so listen up children
If after the song finishes, as you let go of her hand, she:
1. squeeze it hard and don't let go immediately
2. let her fingers run across your arm and caress your arm as you let go (fuck I hate it when girls I don't like do this to me)
3. stay in front of you or walk in your direction. This is why as a song finishes, don't turn away too quickly. See her reaction
All of those are good solid IOIs. You should ask her to dance another song and ramp up your game.
I've never gone on a date/bang a girl in salsa without one or many of those above signs.
Best case scenario: you get a girl out to a dance date with you.
If you did all of the above then run tight text/phone game, you will get girls on date. I recently went on one with a solid 8 Georgian model but I fucked it up.
Take her to the dance venue that you have on lock down. Or at least familiar with. Take care of logistics. As you hit the bar dance one or two songs. Then go grab a drink. This is the precious few minutes where you spit game and set the sexual/fun tone for the whole night. Once the alcohol set in takes her dancing and keep ramping up escalation.
I repeat, RAMP UP ESCALATION. I fucked up my last date because I didn't try to kiss her.
If God loves you and puppies pray for your karma then at some point in the dance she will have her face close to you, her boobs against you and your hand on her lower back. Look her in the eye and kiss her. Just fucking do it. Once done keep ramping it up, then venue change after no more than 15 min. I can't stress this enough. You have to leave while she's still hot and not exhausted from dance.
Everytime I got something out of salsa I follwed the above system to the letter, and it just fucking works. My best lay in salsa with a solid 8 brunette with hair flowing past her back was like that. We were just 10min into dancing and we were making out/foreplaying on the dance floor. Zero resistance or LMR to the bang.
That's how I roll. See if it works for you guys.