[edtf]

#38: blonde girl 7 standing next to me at starbucks, she gives me strong eye contact 3 times, i havent able to speak for several days since I lost my voice from illness. I felt a little bit of AA come back, need to do more approaches

[edtf]

#39: Girl working as a cashier at a organic food market (kind of like whole foods). Blonde hair, green eyes, with pink highlights, solid 7. I can see from her yoga pants she has thin legs and a really perky ass. She asks me how my day is, and I talk about my exam. She asks me what I'm studying, and I say I'm studying medicine. She says thats cool, and says she hasn't even finished high school yet. I mishear that she's still in high school, and she corrects me and says she dropped out but got her GED. She asks me how old I am, I say 22, and she says she's 18. We talk about work and school, and since there's another customer behind me I let her get to work. As I leave she says she hopes to see me around and I tell her good night. I need to number close her next time I go.

[edtf]

Followup on #8: She added me on Facebook after we met at the airport, and we've been chatting on and off for a few months. Finally last week she messages me her number and says I should text her. We have plans for her to drive down to meet me on saturday, more to come. The power of the restart text!!!

Also, #30 wants to meet up again this saturday. Damn, looks like I'm about to get my first harem started.

[edtf]

#40: Met a girl at a volunteer event, with a really nice body. We talked about our majors and where we've traveled, but she seemed pretty unaware of what was going on in the world. I couldn't build any rapport with her at all, just trading facts about each other. She called her friend over later on, who was less cute, but she was Brazilian and much more knowledgeable about the world, she ate up my well-traveled well-read game. Got both their numbers, no response form the first girl, the second girl did respond.

#41: Met a girl at a get-together, blonde with green eyes and tanned skin, nice legs. While we were talking she literally was standing 2 inches from my face and smiling. But every now and then, when a new song came on, she would suddenly interrupt, grab a friend, and then dance a little, and then be like "Sorry for interrupting". Again I ran out of things to talk about after about 3-4 minutes.

I realize I'm really bad at building rapport with these types of girls who are not smart and have small attention spans. I just kind of blank out and run out of stuff to talk about, constantly having to intellectually whittle down everything I want to say until there's nothing left.

[Travesty]

^ It sounds like you are trying to sell yourself too hard with travel and reading or whatever.

Focus on the girl, not yourself.

Make observations about, question her. If you are out like with #41 ask about her drink, what she likes to drink, her favorite bars in the area, tease her about what she wore, how she did her hair, how she dances like a complete dork. You make have to talk 20/80 in the beginning, it should shift real fast to 90/10 with her doing 90% of the talking.

Women want to talk about themselves constantly. They honestly don't really care much about what's going on in your life or what you know in the beginning. They just want a guy they want to fuck that will listen to their babble without taking it seriously.

An example I've have said before is the hottest girl I ever banged didn't know what I did for a living, where I lived (until I proposed walking there), who my friends were, where I have traveled, how smart I was and so on and so on. I hit on her, danced with her, let her talk.

I know the deal is to drop bait to hook the girl. Once she is out with you or you have already hooked her and she is into the conversation it is time to turn the tables... that's what GALNUC is, just making her talk about herself while you observe and tease. That same philosophy applies after the number close and onto during date 1 when you are trying to bang.

[edtf]

(04-03-2015 12:09 PM)Travesty444 Wrote:  

^ It sounds like you are trying to sell yourself too hard with travel and reading or whatever.

Focus on the girl, not yourself.

Make observations about, question her. If you are out like with #41 ask about her drink, what she likes to drink, her favorite bars in the area, tease her about what she wore. You make have to talk 20/80 in the beginning, it should shift REAL fast to 90/10 with her doing 90% of the talking.

Women want to talk about themselves constantly. They honestly don't really care much about what's going on in your life or what you know in the beginning. They just want a guy they want to fuck that will listen to their babble without taking it seriously.

Thanks Travesty.

It was more that I brought up I was from New York when she asked where I was from, and then she immediately was like "I love NY!" and we went into a 10 minute conversation about it and then transitioned to a bunch of interesting topics about her and me. #40 was just like "Oh", when I mentioned where I was from.

I kind of ejected early from #41 because of the fact that she was bailing every 2 minutes to dance to Katy Perry and kind of coming back to talk after.

You're right about the 20/80 thing, It's something I need to work on, I'm slowly getting over my natural introvertedness and getting it.

Again, I really appreciate your advice.

[edtf]

Went out with #8 today. She lives an hour away and drove over, and shows up at my place at around 3pm. Straight blonde hair, green eyes, and she's lost a few pounds since I last saw her and is looking super cute. I didn't have anything planned, and we just chilled in my living room and chatted. She mentioned that she was Mormon and about to go be a missionary in a few months. We talk about that for a while, and then I ask if she wants to see a museum since they have a some cool new exhibit. She agrees and we drive over. Our humor is completely on sync with each other, she is really funny and smart and nice to talk to. I didn't have to run any routines, use any lines, or even consciously think about gaming. She was into the same TV shows, books, and quirky stuff I was, I could just be myself and she happened to completely dig the same things. After the museum we get boba milk tea. We talk about majors and she's a pre-med. I ask her if she wants to see cadavers in passing, and she is super excited and actually wants to. We end up driving up to my school lab, and I show her some dissected bodies, and she loves it. Afterwards I ask what she wants to do, she says she's down to do anything. I ask if she wants to go to a shooting range, she says she's never done it before but is super down. I mention I have a phobia of loud noises, and she takes it seriously and says she doesn't want to go if thats the case. We end up going around downtown and going to a used bookstore. Its one of my favorite places in the city, and we have a lot of fun looking through books about random things. Finally she has to go back home and I need to study so I drive her back. She says that she had a lot of fun, and I tell her to come by sometime next time and we can have dinner, and she is down.

I didn't close anything, but this has legitimately been the most fun date I've had with a girl. She's smart, funny, and considerate. We'll see what happens from here, feel potential one-itis coming on.

[edtf]

Gonna meet up again this week with #8, and also with #30. The ball is rolling guys, 2 girls on rotation.

[edtf]

#42: Cute girl with dirty blonde hair and blue eyes sitting alone in the cafeteria. I walk over and ask if I can join her. I sit down and she asks me if I also work at the school. We talk about our jobs and school, and where we're from, and hobbies. She did interior design and is going for an MBA, and I built pretty good rapport with that. After about 30 minutes she mentioned that her lunch break was over, and that I should rotate in her department sometime, and I ask her to exchange contact info. I get her number, text her my name, and she texts back "nice to meet you". I asked her out to lunch again and we'll see what happens.

OK, so recap after being almost halfway through 100 approaches. Absolutely killing it with cute blondes during day game. Absolutely bombing out with fob asian girls. Not that I mind, its a good niche to have

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#43: Tall girl with dirty blonde hair, slim body, perky ass, and strikingly beautiful blue eyes. I'm sitting down studying and she walks in. We make eye contact as she comes in. She looks down at the ground, then back at me, then to the table. Good IOI. After about 5 minutes, I ask if she has an outlet where she's sitting. She says she does, and to "Come on over". She asks if she can take my blood pressure, for her homework. I ask her what she's studying, its physical therapy. I bring up how in medical school I only needed to take 10 people's vital signs, she gasps and says she needs 200. We chat without missing a beat, she is working in a restaurant part time and I bring up my own experience bussing tables in a Japanese restaurant in NYC. She's traveled extensively, and very knowledgeable about many cultures. We each do some more studying, and after the place closes we walk out together. I say that we should exchange contact info, she says sure, but that she has a boyfriend. I say that that's cool, and I get her number anyway. She texts me and we wish each other good night and go our separate ways.

Damn, great girl and cool to talk to. But the upside is I'm super natural with my openers now, and I can open even when I'm trying to study and need to get things done, instead of making excuses to myself for an hour until she finally leaves and then kicking myself after.

[LAX]

Lots to like over here. Your are approaching w/I hesitation and getting some conversation flowing. Sounds like you have found a niche with blonde chicks so things could be worse.

Some tips:
- Don't accept or be satisfied with opening and just number close. First plateau was open, second plateau was conversation, third plateau was number close. I'm seeing a trend where you are dropping off before you have fully exhausted the potential of the situation. Remember - escalate (as much as is appropriate in the situation) before ejecting. Right now you appear to be ejecting sooner than you should. Some chicks want to talk. Insta date. Get practice talking, moving things forward. Have 3-4 things to talk about that will show them your worldly life. Be exotic, and therefore be the catch for them. I understand the dopamine hit when you get the number but don't be satisfied with that. ENDGAME.

- follow travesty444's advice on closing. No Reason for not getting the bang when the chicks is in bed. Escalate as much as you can within reason. If you get lmr, change subjects, go back to it. SexualiZe, flirt tease, talk dirty

- sounds like you are enjoying this journey, don't get oneitis...if you like a girl do it on your terms. You have potential, keep learning and getting better.

While talk to a girl in your head do 2 things
- tell yourself you are the prize and she needs to work for it. She will feel the balance of power shift and realize you are not chasing. Girls sense this
- keep hard eye contact, smile with your eyes and keep teasing and flirting

Never compliment natural beauty. Ever. If you compliment, compliment the effort (nicr jeans, good outfit, interestingly style, cool handwriting) never compliment genetics.

Good luck - you are doing great.

[edtf]

^ Thanks for the advice LAX, I am trying to work on ejecting too early. It happened to me again today.

#44: While I was studying, a very cute latina/white looking girl gives me eye contact as she walks to her table. She sits at a table 3 away from me, and is in engaged in conversation with her friend. We make periodical eye contact, I throw in a smile and she smiles back. Finally I need to leave, and as I pack up, I notice her gaze on me. This is the strongest IOI I've had in a while, I need to act on it, even though I'm nervous because I've never approached a 2-set during the day before.

I walk over, and I smile and ask "Have we met before?". She says no, but "I'm Amanda", we shake hands and talk. Her friend puts her head down and looks at her phone. We talk about final exams, and she's studying Korean. I bust out some of my Korean skills and she asks if I'm Korean, I say no, its actually my 4th language. Her friend looks up, and asks me how I learned so many languages. I chat with her a bit and then introduce myself to the friend. Now the ball is rolling, the girl and I talk about traveling and what we want to do, what we're studying, etc. For some reason I decide to eject all of a sudden. I tell her it was really nice meeting her and I'll see her around. She wishes me good luck on finals and I say thanks.

Curse you, panic eject!!!! God damn it!!! I thought about doubling back to get her number, but my legs would not listen. Still kicking myself

[~wrIghter~]

Damn that's rough man. Sometimes when things are going to well, your anxiety hits an all-time high. Hopefully you do come across her again, but charge it to the game man.

[Geekzor]

Solid work man keep it up. You should've just asked for her number right then and there as she seemed really interested, but ya anxieties are a real pain in the ass.

[edtf]

Tried my hand at Happn. Matched with this 18 year old girl still in high school, and had a conversation about dystopian literature and her bisexuality. I suggested we meet up and hang out, she is down but says she has no car. I go for the number, and she said she would text me but her mom took away her SIM card because she got a piercing without permission.

Hahaha, I don't know how you guys are pulling so much pussy on online dating, my results seem mediocre by comparison.

[Jetlagged]

Daaaaamnnn dude #44 was eating out of your hand! You had both of them going! I feel you on the anxiety though man. You're doing super well, I can't believe you haven gotten laid yet with 2 close calls.

The dude coming through the window literally made me laugh out loud.

Just read the whole thread, good job dude. Inspiring another newbie over here.

[edtf]

I got a text from #43, the blond hair blue eyed dancer-body girl. She asked if I remembered her, that she was the girl I met from __, and if I wanted to go to a trivia night tonight. Unfortunately I was out of town so I couldn't make it. I asked her what she was doing tomorrow and she said she was taking her niece out and then working. I said I was going out of state tonight and will hit her up when I'm back. We had a bit of a convo through text, and I said we should hang out when i'm back. she replies "Yes. Lets"

[Carlos100]

(04-04-2015 09:49 PM)edtf Wrote:  

Went out with #8 today. She lives an hour away and drove over, and shows up at my place at around 3pm. Straight blonde hair, green eyes, and she's lost a few pounds since I last saw her and is looking super cute. I didn't have anything planned, and we just chilled in my living room and chatted. She mentioned that she was Mormon and about to go be a missionary in a few months. We talk about that for a while, and then I ask if she wants to see a museum since they have a some cool new exhibit. She agrees and we drive over. Our humor is completely on sync with each other, she is really funny and smart and nice to talk to. I didn't have to run any routines, use any lines, or even consciously think about gaming. She was into the same TV shows, books, and quirky stuff I was, I could just be myself and she happened to completely dig the same things. After the museum we get boba milk tea. We talk about majors and she's a pre-med. I ask her if she wants to see cadavers in passing, and she is super excited and actually wants to. We end up driving up to my school lab, and I show her some dissected bodies, and she loves it. Afterwards I ask what she wants to do, she says she's down to do anything. I ask if she wants to go to a shooting range, she says she's never done it before but is super down. I mention I have a phobia of loud noises, and she takes it seriously and says she doesn't want to go if thats the case. We end up going around downtown and going to a used bookstore. Its one of my favorite places in the city, and we have a lot of fun looking through books about random things. Finally she has to go back home and I need to study so I drive her back. She says that she had a lot of fun, and I tell her to come by sometime next time and we can have dinner, and she is down.

I didn't close anything, but this has legitimately been the most fun date I've had with a girl. She's smart, funny, and considerate. We'll see what happens from here, feel potential one-itis coming on.

You've been really killing it with your approaches, and this was a chance to practice your mid-game. I don't know if you tried this, but if I were you I would have made her walk arm-in-arm with me at the museum. Just stick out your elbow and nudge her and make her put her arm in yours, as if it wasn't an option for her to say no. That gets the kino rolling. Then, you could have gone for the kiss when looking at the dead bodies. I would have used a line like, "I wonder if this guy had very many girlfriends?" Then gently grabbed her chin and brought her face to yours. Then, you use an excuse to go back to your place. She had already met you there, so she would have been down to go back there with you instead of the neutral third/fourth venue that you took her to. Remember the ABCs- Always Be Closing.

In my experience, Mormons, especially her since she was preparing to go out on a mission, are generally against going all the way since they believe fornication sends them straight to hell. Mormon girls, however, are just like other girls in that they can rationalize doing anything on the spur of the moment based on their feelings. They're at least usually willing to go to second or third base since it is more forgivable. All girls want to be seduced. So, you at least could have gotten a good make out of it and maybe even a hand or blow job.

[edtf]

(05-16-2015 01:13 PM)Carlos100 Wrote:  

You've been really killing it with your approaches, and this was a chance to practice your mid-game. I don't know if you tried this, but if I were you I would have made her walk arm-in-arm with me at the museum. Just stick out your elbow and nudge her and make her put her arm in yours, as if it wasn't an option for her to say no. That gets the kino rolling. Then, you could have gone for the kiss when looking at the dead bodies. I would have used a line like, "I wonder if this guy had very many girlfriends?" Then gently grabbed her chin and brought her face to yours. Then, you use an excuse to go back to your place. She had already met you there, so she would have been down to go back there with you instead of the neutral third/fourth venue that you took her to. Remember the ABCs- Always Be Closing.

In my experience, Mormons, especially her since she was preparing to go out on a mission, are generally against going all the way since they believe fornication sends them straight to hell. Mormon girls, however, are just like other girls in that they can rationalize doing anything on the spur of the moment based on their feelings. They're at least usually willing to go to second or third base since it is more forgivable. All girls want to be seduced. So, you at least could have gotten a good make out of it and maybe even a hand or blow job.

You're absolutely right Carlos. I guess I went kind of beta with her just because I felt that our personalities clicked pretty well and because no alcohol was involved. I need to escalate better.

After this I took her out for dinner and a movie the next week, she drove about an hour to come over to see me. I ended up just like hugging her at the end, for some reason my sixth sense was holding me back from going in for the kiss.

The next week she invited me out for a movie and paid for it as well as dessert after, since I paid the first time. It was pretty sweet of her, and yet again I failed at escalation.

I'll see her again sometime this week since we're both on break and both happen to be from LA. We'll see what happens.

[edtf]

#45: You know those girls working the makeup section at the department store? The ones who are dolled up, sexy, and dressed in skin-tight all-black outfits. As I walk past 2 of these girls, a black girl and a blonde girl, they stop me and ask me if I need any help as I walk by. I smile, and my sense tells me they're not stopping me because they want to sell me makeup. I end up asking them to recommend a hair product for me, and they both leave their post to come with me to help look.

The blonde was a 9, and the black girl was a solid 7, with thin, long legs and a perfectly shaped ass. The blonde girl bounces after explaining the product for a few minutes, but the black girl stays. Her body language is really open, and I say one day I should try getting some sweet dreads like her, as I lean in closer and sort of brush her hair. She smiles and says that it would be cool. I mentioned that I lived in harlem for a few years and have only seen one other Asian guy who was able to pull off dreadlocks.

She asks me what I was doing in Harlem, and I talked about my school, and the convo transitioned away from the hair product. She was a journalism student at the local State university, and liked photography. I talked about that for a bit, and then about shooting scenery and stuff.

While we started talking about East coast vs West coast culture, I feel my phone vibrating in my pocket nonstop. I came shopping with my parents since I'm home on break and they're looking for me. I ignore the vibrating and keep the convo flowing, but I'm not paying attention to any of it, and in the back of my mind thinking of how to continue spitting game while avoiding my parents for another few minutes. Too late, my mom suddenly appears behind me and says "Hey, I've been looking all over for you, what are you doing?" I say, "I'm looking for hair product, give me a few minutes OK?" She says sternly, "Fine, we'll wait for you at the entrance in the Starbucks."

I say OK, and brush it off as if nothing ever happened. I continue what I was talking about and we keep chatting for a few minutes. Finally I say "Hey my parents are waiting for me, but I'd love to talk again." She smiles and says OK, I hand her my phone, and she puts in her name and number. I shake her hand and tell her it was nice to meet her, and she says "We will definitely talk again".

I felt I did pretty good on this approach… Was able to maintain frame despite my mom coming in and fucking things up. The girl was pretty chill and good looking, I hope she replies and I can set up drinks with her. I was able to transition away from a customer dynamic to a solid number close. I can definitely see the improvement in my game compared to even 20-30 approaches ago.

[Geekzor]

Great job on maintaining the frame and not even mentioning the subject or trying to qualify when your parents left. You did great I think with your approach, now the ball is in your court for the dreaded text game and getting the date. Just keep the text simple, concise and straight to the point and hopefully good things will happen. Sending happy thoughts your way.

[~wrIghter~]

Sweet approach man. I enjoy reading your progress. What's awesome is that you had one hook out of the two and she just so happens to have a nice ass (a plus in my book haha). Hope it all goes well man. Props.

[Carlos100]

(05-18-2015 02:56 AM)edtf Wrote:  

(05-16-2015 01:13 PM)Carlos100 Wrote:  

You've been really killing it with your approaches, and this was a chance to practice your mid-game. I don't know if you tried this, but if I were you I would have made her walk arm-in-arm with me at the museum. Just stick out your elbow and nudge her and make her put her arm in yours, as if it wasn't an option for her to say no. That gets the kino rolling. Then, you could have gone for the kiss when looking at the dead bodies. I would have used a line like, "I wonder if this guy had very many girlfriends?" Then gently grabbed her chin and brought her face to yours. Then, you use an excuse to go back to your place. She had already met you there, so she would have been down to go back there with you instead of the neutral third/fourth venue that you took her to. Remember the ABCs- Always Be Closing.

In my experience, Mormons, especially her since she was preparing to go out on a mission, are generally against going all the way since they believe fornication sends them straight to hell. Mormon girls, however, are just like other girls in that they can rationalize doing anything on the spur of the moment based on their feelings. They're at least usually willing to go to second or third base since it is more forgivable. All girls want to be seduced. So, you at least could have gotten a good make out of it and maybe even a hand or blow job.

You're absolutely right Carlos. I guess I went kind of beta with her just because I felt that our personalities clicked pretty well and because no alcohol was involved. I need to escalate better.

After this I took her out for dinner and a movie the next week, she drove about an hour to come over to see me. I ended up just like hugging her at the end, for some reason my sixth sense was holding me back from going in for the kiss.

The next week she invited me out for a movie and paid for it as well as dessert after, since I paid the first time. It was pretty sweet of her, and yet again I failed at escalation.

I'll see her again sometime this week since we're both on break and both happen to be from LA. We'll see what happens.

You know, I didn't even try to notice if you might be Mormon yourself. Reading through this thread again, it looks like you might be. If you are, then I owe you an apology for projecting my assumptions onto your situation.

[edtf]

Disappointing week…

I texted back #45 asking "how's it going?". She messaged back "just about to do my hair, what about you?" I said I was chilling, and asked what she was up to this week. No response.

I texted #43 asking what she was up to this week. She said she was working but pretty free. I asked if she liked hiking, and she said replied "does Ron Swanson like bacon wrapped turkey?", a reference to Parks and Rec. She said she was free after tuesday, wednesday, thursday, and saturday. I asked if she was down for Thursday afternoon.

A while later she texted me saying that she just went through a really ugly breakup with her boyfriend and wasn't emotionally ready to date anyone, and that if I didn't have any other intentions she's fine with it because she will 'friend zone' me. I reply "Lets just enjoy nature and each other's company. I'm not over thinking and you shouldn't either. Sorry about your breakup." 5 hours later she replies "Maybe give me a few weeks before we hang out one on one. Group stuff I'm OK with".

God Damn it!

I went to a rave this weekend, and during the rave a slim pretty asian girl wearing a skimpy black top and skirt started grinding on me. We danced for about 20 minutes, and we held each others hands through our fingers while grinding. She leaned her head back on my shoulders. I thought this was the signal to for the kiss. I turn her head to face me, and when I went in for the kiss, she turned her cheek, then suddenly ran away in the crowd back to her friends.

[~wrIghter~]

I've learned that asking when a girl is free usually ends up with chicks making excuses. If you propose hikinggetting drinksmovieetc before asking if their free, its a good chance she'll counter off a day you have in mind if she's interested. Also I wouldn't waste my time on the girl who just experienced the breakup, unless you really want to be...just friends. I'd go NC with her and focus on other leads.