[Travel Museums]

Waiting on my bus to Siem Reap. It's 30 min late. My experience this is completely normal. I've never been on an intercity bus in Cambodia that left within 15 min of its scheduled departure time.

Last night walked around Sisophon and it was completely dead. There was one tiny disco type place that was about to close and only two people in it playing on their phones.

Being New Year's Day there was a dance party in a patch of dirt off the main road. I followed the strobes and sound of music. Some young guys immediately dragged me into their dance circle.

Most of the girls seemed way too young. I'm guessing early teens. A few I'd chatted on the way in said they were 19 but looked way younger. Too bad they were leaving and spoke such little English.

Some girls came over to dance with us but one was completely busted. I'm definitely sure the other was a transgender.

I moved to dance with a group that had the one and only girl there who was not busted and age appropriate. Her group was very receptive and was pushing us together. She danced with me but was obviously embarrassed when I got close and put her hands on my shoulders and mine on her hips.

I joked around with her group and took photos. I made a couple goofy attempts to get "1 kiss". But she was super shy. We held hands but eventually she went home with her sister. There were zero targets remaining so I left too.

Next morning she's texting me she loves me. I invite her over but the convo is incomprehensible even with google translate. I only had a few hours so packed and went to eat.

I've had this experience with several women around the world. Always annoys me how I have several "empty" hours each morning and evening. But to make anything happen you have to be sticking around town more than a day. And usually be willing to sacrifice the whole day and night to the seduction.

I don't know how guys like BB do it. I get super bored as soon as I run out of INTERESTING stuff to do. Hanging with the locals and drinking day after day brings me no joy. I've tried it a few times and sure I got laid but it was completely unsatisfactory. Then I feel like I have to rush other parts of my trip to compensate.

The local women themselves are hardly ever pretty/slim enough to justify the wasted time either. Even the prostiutes are barely bangeable on a physical level. I read Fisto's epic thread and saw some pictures that were still viewable. I think damn he's a tall jacked MMA fighter who sacrificed almost every day and night to drinking and doing pickup, but from the pics of the girls I'd still choose sightseeing over banging almost all of them. Yet unless you stick in one place and create that level of abundance then end up still only banging mostly 6-7s it's hard to maintain a strong frame. Like a catch-22.

Had a few girls from Battambang finally texting me back from badoo. But it's too late, I left. They were OK looking but I wouldn't stick around town once I've done everything just for a shot at banging them. This repeats itself everywhere I go. Often they're girls I picked up, chatted, socialized with who are interested but are essentially asking for more time than I'm prepared to investment based on their face and fitness level.

I really need to be better at pipelining. How do you spoof your iPhone gps to only show girls near a certain city? Last night I was bored and played encounters but it was only showing me girls 50km away. I'm sitting there liking them but knowing it's pointless bc tomorrow I'll be in Siem Reap so I should be scouting the girls there.

[Travel Museums]

Siem reap has a pub street where everyone goes for nightlife. It's very similar to khaosan road in bkk.

The main bar/clubs are top club and cheers. Xbar is supposedly good but it's been empty and low key.

The quality of available girls is low. I've seen some good specimens daytime but they're always holding hands with a guy. Early in the night before/during/after dinner there are a few lookers in mixed groups, tour groups, families. They're not ready for a pull but if you can work their group you might have a shot if they stay out to drink.

First night I was pretty tired so didn't go out. Had a tinder date which I'm still scratching my head over...

She had wanted to meet at 8pm for a drink. But she was texting me repeatedly between 3-6 pm. Sending photos of her sitting in a cafe with a nearly empty iced coffee. So after I finish my day I roll by to say hello. She said she hasn't eaten so I suggest we just eat together now then maybe have a drink later.

I had planned to see a dinner dancing show 5 min away. It was $12 so I ask is that too expensive. She didn't answer but talked about how she used to do that kind of aspara dance stuff. So she's always wanted to see the show, but she says she doesn't want to go now.

I hate when chicks shoot themselves in the foot like that. I'd just have been nice and subsidized it for her if she gave me a simple answer of yes.

I could go another night I guess. How about walking night market with me? Again no. Hmm how about the FREE aspara dance show at top bar in an hour? Just have to order food or cheap drink. No.

She says she needed to go home first. I thought this was weird bc she'd been sitting around in that cafe for 3 hours doing nothing and texting for me to come meet her. When I came in she didn't even have a book or friends. Just said she was sitting there alone whole time. She was decently cute too.

I'm like alright well nice to meet you. See you later maybe. We text a little back and forth. She's upset bc she thought I invited her to dinner at 8. I'm like uh no we said a drink at 8. But you still turned me down in person for dinner 3 times. So why are you upset? Then she says she has a cold and wants to be alone tonight. Maybe we can meet tomorrow? I just dropped it there.

Totally weird encounter. Overall Tinder sucks in SR. Matched with some ugly locals and fat backpackers.

One weird. When I first go to Xbar tonight it's empty. I chat two local girls. One says oh T&M. I saw you on Tinder. Then she remembers shit from my profile.

I check my app and we didn't match. So this girl remembers me even though she swiped the other direction. She's like yeah your shirtless photo was hot. I'm like WTF bc this is not the first time this has happened to me.

In Osaka this summer a girl remembered me but hadn't swiped right. She was all into me on the street and asked what I do. I said three words before she goes: " oh that's YOU?" I remember you from tinder. She said she hadn't swiped right bc I sounded pretentious. I was like really? Bc all
I write is a short bio. I do suppose it's intimidating and the university that shows also probably intimidates even an ivy leaguer, but still for a hot girl to remember a profile she didn't swipe right on out of thousands seems bizarre. I don't even read a girls profile unless we match...

Then I a guy comes to meet this girl and he's short and ugly. He's taking her on a tinder dinner date to the "second best restaurant on trip advisor". And her friend is there tagging along. I'm like wtf? They invite me but I peel off to hit on a lone wolf as we cross the wooden bridge over the river.

I bullshit with this local 19 year old. She's chaste and saving for marriage. She feigns outrage everytimei sexualize the convo. I tell her about the college student who traveled with me from Phnom Penh to Battambang. And how she was same way so had me fuck her in the ass. She almost got up to leave, lmfao. She also moved away at light kino but responded ok to palm reading and thumb wrestling.

Her brother came over and turns out they are running some kind of pyramid scheme like amway. She says no normal Khmer girls will be out on pub street. Only maybe a few outcasts that ride the cock carousel (different words of course).

I hit all three bars a few times. Xbar had drunk Irish girls that were easy pickings but I'd have to be really drunk. Then some dudes they met daytime roll up and looks like they're just gonn drink all night.

Cheers had more people than Xbar but less than top Club. I opened a set of Khmer girls who seemed to innocent and well kept to be hookers. She cute one got up and danced but when I pulled her in the older friend separated us. I think no ones gonna get anything from these two even with a wing. Saw two of them a few hours later dancing alone with a dozen guys around watching.

Top club was the most fun. I stayed to dance maybe an hour. Almost as soon as I'm in there I lock eyes with a decently attractive english girl. She's as tall as me but only 21 and has some acne (big turn off for me). Had I been drinking it'd have been instant makeout.

But I'm not feeling her. Plus I want to move around the venue and get an idea of what's out there. Flirt a little. Dance with different girls. It's a small enough place that a mid dance floor makeout will be noticed by almost everyone. Not worth blowing myself out until I know she's the one I want tonight.

She says she just broke up with her bf. Her friend says it's her birthday and I should kiss her. Damn all systems are go here. But I don't kiss her. It was so bad she asked me is everything all right. Are you ok? I actually felt bad but she finally got the hint and went to dance with her friends.

I then broke into a circle of teenage Koreans. So cute. They went nuts with screams every time I busted a dance move and mimicked it. The English girl would whip around and watch. I tried to get some other guys into the circle to bust up the girls but they didn't know what to do. So they would dance in the middle which started a dumb contest sort of thing. Then the one guy kept trying to dance solo with the one I had already eyefucked, spun, hip bumped etc. I was like really dude. You stood there and watched me run this set. If you're going to wing you don't steal my target. So he just leaves. This dude was a giant like a foot taller than me. I'm like wtf...

I dance with a Chinese girl who's friend is nice enough to leave almost immediately. I speak a little mandarin and she's impressed. Then even more so that I'd lived in Chengdu where she's from. It's her last night here. Her friend is over at bar making the shooing motion like go home with him idiot. She's maybe a 6 though. I'm not escalating much and I get the feeling she's not gonna be a decent bang.

At this point there's not many targets left. I'm really hoping to get something exotic or skinny. I'm pretty sure the half dozen girls at the bar are pros. But it's hard to tell bc I opened a few of them who were standoffish.

I grind on one for a song. She says she's from PP herefor 5 days vacation. I ask what she does. Massage. Hmm. I don't pay for sex. Ok. I don't pay at all. Ok. For fun. Ok. Walk her home. Shower. Fuck. Short shitty massage. Get dressed. She wants money.

God damn it. We already established this. She says Cambodia boom boom always money. I get her outside the guesthouse. She's being loud and tries to get deskclerk involved. He doesn't give a fuck. I go back upstairs. She pretends to be calling someone. Talks loudly for 20 minutes. Finally takes a pic of hotel name and leaves. I watch from my balcony.

A Turkish guy arrives at hostel late. Asks me to take him out. I oblige. We hit same three. Xbar is even emptier at 1:45. Cheers is mostly dudes. The whore I "shored" is there. She ignores me.

Top club is still decent but most of the women are gone. Still a few decent girls but they're in groups and don't want anything to do with guys. I try opening a table mixed set of what looked like Chinese. The girls were hot. Bouncers immediately come over and motion me away.

I saw a couple dudes with cute asians. One look close to pulling but the girl wasn't Khmer. I think a western born Asian. Other was a Khmer maybe a pro but was standoffish when I opened her earlier. All dude was getting was being pressed up against her from behind while she pretended he wasn't there. He didn't look close to pulling. He ugly friend was still right there too blocking his escape path.

SR seems pretty much like PP. Easy pickings for backpackers but most locals are p4p. There's also a Skybar on sok San Road I stopped by first bc it's next to my guesthouse. The drinks are reasonably priced and come with attention from the best looking whores in town. The pimp told me $5 to leave with any of the girls which didn't sound right. Clerk at my hotel said they'll want $50 for an hour of sex if you leave with them. But would probably take less. The whore who tried to get money from me dropped immediately to $20 and prob would have taken $10 to walk away.

[Travel Museums]

Correction the main bar in seim reap is temple club not top. Dunno how I got that name.

Tinder date tonight turned out to be fat. No attraction but for fun I gave her lessons. She was so mousy and was sitting totally weird. I was like I think you need to learn how to act on a date. She's like huh? I move her foot out of her hand (yes) and position her to sit in a position that's condcive to conversation. I show her how to maintain eye contact without being weird and respond to a mans touch if she doesn't like it by gently moving his hand or leaving it if she likes it. Shit goes on like that then her tour group comes so I bounce.

I've found a fair amount of Cambodian women to be short of manners and lacking a calm feminine response to small escalations like brushing hair back and stroking her ear. Or just saying thanks if you pay for food or a drink. In all fairness I don't think they date much. It's kinda like being in junior high again.

I had met her at Xbar which never seems to get crowded. On the way out I saw a cute girl alone. Went over cocky funny and got into a hand hold. She was waiting for her sister. Things went well and when her sister showed she immediately left us alone.

I turned the convo sexual and she started to freeze me out. She said she wasn't a virgin. Had had a foreign boyfriend who came backflr a few visits and got bored. Last visit was 5 months ago.

She got up to join her sister. I saw a cute Korean woman in her 30s. I wish I grabbed her but at only one beer I though she was too old. Later I saw her being fondled by a busted beach bum guy in tank top and flip flops. I wanted to choke myself.

I get a wing and reopen the sisters. Drunk guy is 19 from Minnesota here to build a library volunteer work. He's dressed so badly I wonder if he's trying to be funny. White socks jacked up half calf with gym shorts and a parachute sized tank top.

I didn't realize how drunk he was. He's blurting dumb shit right in front of them like "man I'm so jealous of you. Do you fuck a different girl every night?" I'm amused and not trying to hide it but Girls are looking like wtf.

They bounce us for food and he's still doing it. He actually goes back to his hotel to get his phone so he can friend me and take photos. He had never traveled abroad before. I'm trying to be empathetic but it's killing me.

Weird thing is the sister is responding well to his kino. He's holding her hand and rubbing up on her. Now granted she was very close to being busted. But still. This dude had negative game. Literally asking me loudly in front of them about fucking other Cambodian chicks and prostitutes etc.

My girl sticks me with the check ($5) and doesn't even bother to say thank you and gets up and walks away. She was a bit cold before my wing Fucked up so I can't blame it all on him. She also said she saw me walking with another girl last night. Totally possible I opened several sets on street and in the night market where she worked.

We go back to Xbar to play pool. I'm totally bored with the idea. The table is shit and cues so tacky you can't shoot straight. Plus I'm pretty sure neither of us are getting out dicks wet. My wing is like I don't care I'm too shitfaced. He's genuinely enjoying himself which I truly admire.

We play a few games and my girl is being increasingly bossy and trashy. She's all competitive about the game and stealing turns from me. I go over and chat the older Korean but her beach bum comes right over and starts grabbing her ass to let me know she's taken.

I go back over to my table and I've lost interest so just let my girl finish out the game. I tried some light kino and she's like don't touch me. Meanwhile my wing is getting pretty feelly on other sister.

I'm looking at her and she doesn't look nearly as good as I the darkness when I first saw her sitting. Slight belly and her demeanor and way of talking is too trashy. I think man I don't feel anything for this chick why the hell am I staying in set? So I bounce. I send her a Facebook message which is really a note to myself (have dozens of Cambodian girls I'm corresponding with). I write: bitch. Stuck me with dinner bill. Didn't say thanks. Turned bossy and trashy. Refused kino.

I walked to heart of Angkor inn. Right next to Xbar. moved her this morning. Great location and AC rooms for only $15/night. Problem is their wifi sucks. I drop my phones off and it in ear plugs. Head to pub street.

Temple club is emptier than last night. There's a big 100 person dance circle in the street. But only one person is dancing at a time. It's super gay. Not one hot girl there. Inside same thing. Not one!

I pull a 6 up to dance. She's sitting alone playing on her phone. She's a total dud. Next.

I repeat this process a few times and become dispondent. I walk to the prostitutes who all hover around the bar. I'm like nah fuck I can't. They're all busted.

Cheers is an even worse sausage fest. I see the older Korean girl and consider stealing her. She's smoking and dancing. I hate smoke. Plus it looks like a fight had just been broken up when I went in. A girl holding a bloody rag to her head was being consoled. Another party had someone else being tended too.

I try dancing wih a few 6-7s who are with groups. I can feel that I'm projecting a weird attitude of disdain and disgust.

One girl was busting some funky moves. Not sexy but at least she was moving with attitude. She asks if I'm gay. I ignore it and keep dancing. She feels my chest and asks again. I'm like huh? She keeps at it. So I'm like yeah whatever. She keeps asking. So I'm like yeah 100%. You're totally safe. And now you can stop asking. She's keeps pushing it like so why would you dance with a woman. That's weird. Blah blah. I'm like are you even a woman? And try to check her crotch but she's got weird fluffy pantoons. I'm like man fuck this shit I'd rather be tested for Angkor Wat tomorrow.

I tried getting shit faced in Sihanoukville one night and it didn't help me feel better about this kind of party. I just don't see the appeal. Everyone looks like they're having the time of their life. Meanwhile I'm walking around horrified. There wasn't one young, hot, in shape woman that I saw tonight or really any other night. They're around daytime in groups but I don't see them between 10-2 at night when there's a decent shot at pulling for sex.

I get home and see the girl from earlier replied to my note with a smiley face. I'm like wtf did she even understand my note was a huge insult and negative observation? I reply "huh so where are you now?". Damn I'm a desperate loser.

[Corroncho]

Travel Museums, your misadventures are really entertaining and depressing at the same time. It's as if the kid from The Catcher In the Rye said fuck it, learned some game and moved to Cambodia.

[DMario]

I had very similar experiences to Travel Museum after spending one year living in Phnom Penh. Its a very depressing place.

[rishboy77]

(01-04-2017 09:54 PM)DMario Wrote:  

I had very similar experiences to Travel Museum after spending one year living in Phnom Penh. Its a very depressing place.

Did you have to stay a year for work ?

If's it depressing... get the hell out.

[Bushido]

She "stuck you" with a $5 check?

Haha. I think you can only stick someone with a check when you have money to pay it in the first place...

[Travel Museums]

I do mind paying for women on a first meet (dinner whore) but $2.50 is not the issue. It's the way it went down. It was her idea for going for food. Neither her, her sister, nor the other dude bother kicking in even a nickel. Nor do they thank me. She actually grabbed the money out of my hand and gave it to the waiter before I could grab a smaller bill. I was shocked.

I had a lot of people treat me to dinner in my life and I ALWAYS asked if I could leave the tip or at least contribute the amount I had budgeted for my meals. People usually refuse the offer but appreciate the gesture. It communicates that you have class.

Not even making the gesture or thanking me was rude. Grabbing the cash from my hand as soon as it exits my wallet? That's trash. I started saying I think you should pay for yourselves but they were already up and leaving. Say all you want about her making $150/month this kind of behavior is unacceptable in any culture.

Too many Cambodian women are used to treating western men like atms. That morning I saw the Turkish guy returning to the hostel with a gross older prostitute who spent the night. I'm like really? He's like no no she's not a whore. I'm like did u pay her? He's like well yeah but she didn't want to take it. I'm like you just bought her breakfast huh? He's real happy like yeah and now we're gonna spend the day together!

Before we went out the other night he told me how he did the same thing in Bangkok. Paid girl, took her shopping, paid her food and drink to spend day together.

His next stop is pattaya and he will do same thing. He's basically on a sex vacation. Granted he's like 60 and from a Muslim country so I'm not judging him. But the effect on the tourist dynamic with Cambodian women really sucks. These girls weren't even 7s once I saw them in the light.

Thanks for the love. I was beginning to hear crickets chirping in this thread.

Cambodia is definitely the place to bring a women with you. I have banged a bunch of nice Khmer girls that were 6-7s and found two to travel with me for short stints. But not even close to the classy 9 I got for extended travel through Laos. I do meet lots of Khmer girls and match with lots online but they're below my standard. I think if you have low standards your experience here would be very different.

[Bushido]

The not saying thank you part is common in SEA as you should know. Not only a Cambodia thing.

It annoyed me a little at first also but I think it's simply a sign you are hanging with some people of the lower classes. They don't know any better.

You = Rich foreigner

Therefore lower class people will 100% assume you are paying. A richer local wouldn't have it any other way out of facesaving. Or more likely, they simply don't associate with poor people.

One thing I worked out pretty quickly in the Phils was to establish who I'm having dinner with beforehand. If you don't in a place such as the Phils it's quite possible that the whole family might show up.

Your idea of being ripped off for $5 somehow just doesn't compute. The minute you sat down with them to get dinner it was already assumed you were paying. At least you had the sense not to make a scene this time. Seems like you're learning. Haha.

In summary, if you don't like this avoid the semi pros and/or poor chicks. That's a tough one in Cambodia though for sure.

[Travel Museums]

I swore off Cambodia's shitty night game. I told myself I would daygame and meet a normal hot girl today. I forgot to ask if she had a boyfriend.

I saw a beautiful girl sitting in the window at Angkor Wat. Approached and chatted her. Malaysian. An 8-9 with a gorgeous body. Asked if she was traveling alone. She said yes. Asked her to have a drink with me later. She was uncertain. Maybe she could tomorrow. She took my number. Never expected to hear from her.

She kinda ran off back to her tuktuk. She texted later saying she could meet me tonight. I tell her Xbar at 7. She says ok. I get home at 6. Text her asking if she's eaten. She says she'll grab something near the bar. I tell her I'll eat at local place below bar. No answer.

Text her a photo of store once I sit down and order. She's a few hundred feet away at an expensive place and just ordered too. My food is out immediately so I'm done quick and walk over.

She's not enjoying her meal that cost 4 times what mine did. She's also having a hard time chewing and enunciating. Turns out we were both living in Seoul for a month in October.

I made a YouTube channel and saw every attraction in the city. She was getting cosmetic surgery and didn't get to do anything. She's still not recovered and wants to go back for more. There was nothing wrong with this girl. She could be a model. Ouch. Strike one.

We bounce to bar. She refuses my hand hold over the curb. Hmm. So why did you choose cambodia? Well my boyfriend has work here.

Really? I turned down a tinder girl tonight who I'm pretty sure wasn't fat like lasts nights catfish. So you're using me for company? Strike two!

We order drinks and I get out my wallet. She makes no motion. Bartender gives me price for both drinks. I'm like I just ordered a beer it's a buck right? handing him the bill. She reluctantly pays for her expensive mixed drink. You drop the boyfriend thing now and expect a free drink?? Strike three!

I start texting to see if I can get the other girl out. But it's 8pm and she's already home. Fuck. What is wrong with people in Cambodia? What is it about this country that causes people to drop common courtesy. I can understand a poor Khmers motivation. But a hot chick like you? I'm mind boggled. I try to put it out of my head. Focus.

I hadn't pinged the tinder girl today bc she was playing hard to get by text. She asked how long I was staying. I said maybe a few days or a week. So she replies oh well we have lots of time to meet. Fuck!

Girls in Seoul texted that to me too bc I was there a month. Girls say that all the time and play hard to get about meeting for a few weeks. Then act shocked when I'm gone and they missed their chance.

I do my best to flirt and turn it around. I get her holding my hand and she even kinoed me back at first then got shocked at what she was doing. Her tuk tuk driver is waiting downstairs. She's constantly worried about getting home.

She seems cosmopolitan. I'm genuinely interested to get to know her as a friend. We chat an hour. She seems like a typical hot girl. Nice enough but I'd never want to date her and deal with the maintenance.

She's not giving me any solid iois. She does a day a few things that make me think she's open to a fuck. Like asking where I'm staying. But she doesn't react well to me saying it's next door. Nor my options to bounce there. I should have just walked her over anyway and maybe she'd follow.

We walk down pub street. I'm bored and annoyed. Ssomething is bugging me. You're a pretty woman. Guys must ask you out a lot. And you've been in a relationship for more than a few years. So when you agree to meet a guy for a drink, you do understand he's asking out of romantic interest right? It's a bit devastating for him to find out you're not available after he's already on a date with you.

She misses my point and says if guys hit on her she walks away. I'm like ugh. What a dummy. Let me be super specific. When I came up to you this morning and said "hi you look so beautiful sitting there. I had to come up and find out who you are. Then asked you to have a drink with me. The subtext of that is I'm romantically interested in you.

The common courtesy is to reply well I don't know if my boyfriend would like that. Or even be more direct and say I have a boyfriend.

She's goesinto bullshit about not wanting a hookup. I interrupt. I probably would still have met you bc as I said repeatedly over drinks it's been really hard to meet classy people in cambodia.

But I also would still have appreciated knowing you're not single. It's less awkward for both of us. I also wouldn't have turned down another date like I did. I could be meeting someone else soon otherwise. It's a small courtesy but it doesn't cost you anything.

She misses the point and goes into a diatribe so I'm supposed to tell you everything about myself when when you're a stranger? I can't just want to meet you as a friend bc you seemed nice? She even throws in how she only met bc her boyfriend was busy and "I just wanted to use you for company".

I'm like wait what? Repeat that? She again nonchalantly says she just wanted to use me for entertainment bc she was lonely.

I'm like wtf is wrong with this chick. She's not even Cambodian. She seems educated and classy. Is she that socially incalibrated that at 28 years old she hasn't learned the simple flattered tone: I don't know if my boyfriend would like that?

She genuinely seemed to not understand why a guy would want to hear this during the initial meet and not as we walked up the steps to the bar. I'm like look I'm gonna drop it but at this point i feel insulted which is why Ive been turning you down for another drink. I'm just really fed up dealing with trashy people in Cambodia.

She acted all pissy and went into another diatribe about how I'm good looking and night is young and I can go find many other girls. Asia is easy for white guys.

I interrupt and say did you not listen to me earlier. There's no good looking women out past 9pm unless they are prostitutes. If you're truly ignorant of how to indirectly communicate your relationship status that's one thing which is why I brought this up.

But you seem to think it's ok to use me and tell me you're doing it while you're actually doing it and that it's bc I'm white and I have it easy in life. You're being prejudice and rude. It's a social turnoff. Yet you keep asking me to have another drink? I'm feeling a bit insulted and used. And it just doesn't seem to register as with you which has me totally confused bc you're an educated woman (degree in France).

She says fine I'm going to go and tries to give me a hug. I'm shocked and give her a half hug pat.

I think the girl from tinder knows I was on a date bc she texted saying u were at Xbar aren't you. The radio silence. Small town. I think she must know one of the girls on staff.

[Satoshi]

Dude you know some girls fucks even if she have a boyfriend and just tells you before because she don't want you to think anything serious is going on. Your post reminds me of myself a few years ago.

[Travel Museums]

yeah I was worried I fucked it up but she didn't want to bounce to my place and I'm watching the Angkor Wat sunrise tomorrow. She's gonna "try" to see the other temples I already saw today bc she's typical lazy ass. I'm not trying to get drunk with her and prolong my stay in Cambodia. She wouldn't even hold my hand or respond to kino. I don't think she'd follow me to my place but I should have at least tried but she kept saying she had to get home and she promised her bf she wouldn't do a thing crazy. Plus she was recovering from surgery. I had a post cosmetic surgery chick in my room in Seoul and she showed me her tits and wanted to fuck but couldn't. I'm pretty sure it was a no go.

[Travesty]

She was 28. Strike 4!

I like you have the heart of a champion and fight girlls' nature like fighting off rain with a baseball bat.

Yo have guts.

[Travel Museums]

I'm 35! But she guessed 30. Chicks can't tell my age so I always make them guess and settle on a few years older than them. I'm 25-35 depending on girl lol. The girls last night couldn't believe I was 25 and thought I looked younger. Stay out of the sun!!

She was slamming hot though bro. I'd have tore that ass up.

[Travesty]

^ I think if you look that young for your age in general it is pretty easy to do 15-20 year difference for casual sex, and 8-15 year is better for relationships.

If you are 35 and look like you could be in your 20s you should be able to get early 20s girls for casual sex pretty easily. At that age many many are looking for an older guy that isn't too much older, older than they have previously experienced though.

Many girls in early 20s have never had sex with a guy more than 2-3 years older max so a guy they think is 8-10 years older is perfect for them for the new experience.

And yeah your girl may have been hot realize though that 27-32 years old are the women universally with the worst attitudes.

[DMario]

(01-04-2017 10:19 PM)rishboy77 Wrote:  

(01-04-2017 09:54 PM)DMario Wrote:  

I had very similar experiences to Travel Museum after spending one year living in Phnom Penh. Its a very depressing place.

Did you have to stay a year for work ?

If's it depressing... get the hell out.

Yes I was there for a job.

[Kamaki4]

Just came back from my 3rd short visit to PP in less than 1 1/2 months. Didn't hit up any nightlife locations, but did ring in the NY at NagaWorld with some of my wife's colleagues. Our apartment is in BKK 1 and I would agree with DMario that this is a much better location to stay compared to Riverside.

Escorted my wife to a Cambodian wedding which had over 700 people and was the only Non-Asian there. Out of maybe 70 or 80 Khmer girls in their teens or twenties, I would say 3 stunners and 10 that were quite nice. I get the feeling that a lot of girls that forum members would be interested are careful where and when they go out for various reasons. Two weeks in someone tried to snatch my wife's purse and quality local girls are definitely security conscious which doesn't help a guy rolling through without a social circle. I'll probably spend a solid month or two there during College semester break and Northern Thailand burning season.

[Travel Museums]

A girl in PP invited me to a wedding. I wonder if it was same one ha. That's cool you get plugged into social circle via your wife. Different world. There's a small overlap between tourists and locals but largely separate worlds.

Banged out rest of Angkor Wat today. I think two days is good for most people. I did get 7 day pass for $60 bc I plan to see a bunch of stuff further afield. First day I recommend doing Angkor Wat, bayon, & Thom. Day two the outer temples can be done in a loop. Rent a gas Motorbike for $10/day. Officially they're not for rent bc tuktuk drivers make more money but you can find a few shops on main road in Siem reap.

A local set I opened yesterday was supposed to meet me for dinner. Man local Khmer girls are cagey as fuck. This girl agreed to meet me but asked to bring her friend. Then texted back and forth an hour that she couldn't find the place to meet despite me texting pics and maps.

I think she was actually there spying. Bc she ran into the time slot of my backup date from badoo which turned out to be a hooker. Went through same routine with that girl. I think she didn't want to come into street food table area I was in bc she's a known hooker.

Her breath was horrible. I grabbed her hand and walked her straight up to my room. Sat her on bed. She started to ask me for money for boom boom. I gave her a look and took my hard cock out. She refused to do anything without money so left. "it no matter you good Looking. Everyone cambodia pay boom boom".

Other girl texts she saw me walk off with a sexy girl. I text back so you were there watching me for like a half hour saying you couldn't find me? Now ur upset I left with someone else? Fuck you! This shit happened to me in Sihanouk. A local girl Id chatted previous day sees me leave with a prostitute. In both cases I didn't know they were prostitutes and I didnt even fuck them. It's annoying enough to lose a lay bc you didn't realize she was a pro. But to also lose a previous girl youve put in time for? That really sucks!

I walk around for a few hours trying to find lone wolves or two sets with a cute girl. Open the few I saw but got nowhere. Got a leg massage to kill time until 10.

Hit the clubs. Everything was shit except temple club. I thought the weekend might pickup. It's a tourist town. But still I think a few 20 something's will fly in for a short visit. I met 3 girls that said that's what they were doing. Japan, Australia, Hong Kong.

Wasn't attracted to 26 yo Japanese girl but she opened well. Her friend was already taken by a guy. So I winged him as a courtesy. We had a drink and I got a few pecks on the lips in but she was shy about playing grab ass.

Eventually her friend wants to go so I get her line. The dude says "you don't know how to fuck girls" "that girl wanted to fuck you". I'm like uh you're welcome. I wasn't even into her I was just trying to help you. Your girl didn't want it and split. It happens. They're Japanese. If you want to get laid there's a ton of ugly backpackers (pointing to dance floor) or hookers (pointing to bar).

I open a hot Australian Asian girl. Get a makeout but she leaves club. I'm looking around and see a tomboy type looking at me. Short hair with a really cute face. I wait it out and Australian girl comes back so I take her by hand to dance floor. She kinoed my hand on the walk, then grinder a bit and made out. But wanted to go to her friends. I probably could have followed but i try to never chase after a girl.

I turn around and see the Hong Kong tomboy. She must have seen the makeout but oh well. Get physical on her immediately and we're making out. Meet her friend. Bounce her to bar for a drink. Finish them while dancing. Say let's take a walk. She tells her friend. Walk her down pub street to Heart of Angkor Inn. She has cigarette. Then take her inside. Where are we going? Surprise.

In my room she uses toilet. I put on my Napster lay playlist. Smash her rawdog. Squirted her pussy several times. Had her gushing on my cock too. Bed soaked. Drove her home on my motorbike.

Went back to club after but nothing much left. Thought I might see Australian girl. Nope.

Japan 6
Australian 8-9
Hong Kong 8 but kinda defies categorization. In one way looked like a 10 Audrey Hepburn then I'd look at her again and think but could also be a 12 year old boy.

[Travel Museums]

Did the roulos temples today then went to the ceramic museum in tani and phnom bok. They are minor temples but my Angkor pass still has four days on it. They make a nice half day loop by motorbike.

Had dinner with my Hong Kong girl and her friend. Such sweet girls. Treated them. What a pleasure to have intelligent conversation with educated people who are doing interesting things with their lives. Then take the cute one and bang her out rawdog with a cream cap to the dome.

Was done with her by 11pm. Her flight is early tomorrow back to HK. She has to go straight to work. Actress working on a feature film. Showed me promotional material for it. Then some tv shows and othe stuff she's been in. With makeup she's pretty hot. Without it she looks like a 12 year old boy lol.

She's texting me as I'm writing this. She's recording voice overs for some show by whatsapp. I don't know why she likes me so much. She wants to make sure I don't forget her. And promise to visit Hong Kong. I guess I blow if off when girls from developing countries do this. Forgot what if a like to have an industrialized chick do it.

Siem reap nightlife was the worst it's been. I think every girl who flew in for the weekend slept on plane, went out Friday, saw Angkor today, ate, slept, shopped, got a foot massage, had a drink, and went to bed.

There was nothing above 7 out tonight anywhere on pub street. Met a girl from tinder who had slutty photos and a nice body. She was being a coy saying she was at different bars until finally right across street at Angkor bar which has a small dance floor but everyone is always across the street at temple.

I go over and she's with a friend and a dude. He's with the friend so she's available. But she has some acne and scarring. Body pretty good but she won't dance. She won't even stand up. I feel nothing and walk away.

I stuck around another 40 min to make sure I opened every 7 in temple, pub street, cheers, and the little street stall bars. None really gave me anything fun or pliable to work with.

I saw one Spanish guy makeout hardcore with a foreign born Asian of decent quality. I thought for sure he'd plow that but I see him walking around later. Ask and he said she was sick and had to go to bed.

Every other guy I saw pulling was with a disgusting backpacker cow. There were several gay couples making out as well.

One guy kept coming on to me. First time he taps me as if to say something. I was like oh hey what's up bro? but instead he tries to put an arm around means kiss my ear. I move away. Second time he taps me from behind. I'm like not you again. Move away. Third time he tries a quick direct front approach to which I loudly tell him to Fuck off. Now I know how chicks feel.

So based on one Friday there were 3 hot girls and every other night none. Would be interested if it's actually due to girls flying in for the weekend.

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[Travel Museums]

Rode motorbike to banteay srei temple which is part of Angkor and requires your pass. Then on to kbal spaen waterfall which again requires an Angkor pass.

It is a small falls but also has some linga and Angkor carvings worth seeing. You can take shower in falls. There's an animal sanctuary at base of trail but is closed Sunday. Oops.

I didn't start my day until noon. Was running out of time. Hit the kulen plateau late like 4:30. It's a 45 min drive up from the traffic circle but worth it. I didn't pay the $20 toll either. Best waterfall yet in Cambodia. Also a big reclining Buddha. If I had a fullDay there's supposed to be hiking past boulders and bat caves.

Went out again. Started at Xbar. Group of Chinese girls with a beer tower invite me to sit. A few are cute. The hot one has zero English. The cute one speaks but glued to phone. They all work together. Going nowhere.

I'm often in these "social situations". How do you guys handle this. Early in the night I tend to stay in set. Later I usually refuse any group involvement unless it's winging.

I figure they were giving me free beer but I'm also wasting time. Not like I'll be here long enough for the two I exchanged info with to hit me up for sex.

Plus they all kind of did the usual "you're so handsome you must have many girls" routine. I decided to try something diffferent in response. Honesty.

I was like yeah I have girls in each country. They're like really? I'm like yeah well each city really. So I bust out my phone and show them pics of girls in half a dozen places.

They're like you're a playboy! I'm like yeah. But I'm also a serious artist. Then show them all my YouTube channels on Chinese cities. They're like wtf. The dudes are high fiving me.

They have work at 8 so by 11 I'm on pub street. I'm really tired of going out alone. Every non hooker is in a group. I can run a two set but running a group is too much after a long day.

Plus it's just so much work finding the few hot girls. It'd be great to have an extra set of eyes. Ran into the Australian girl again. She was hot but totally not dtf. Did her same running off shit. Saw her later leaving with her mixed group of 6. I felt powerless but still tried to intervene. It was pathetic but I tried.

Also got some texts from a tinder Khmer girl that I was sure I ran into last night. Turns out It was her. I went up to her 3 times like hey are you L? She says no. I was certain it was her and it drove me nuts.

She texts yeah it was me. I didn't hear you ask me. I just thought you came up and touched me. I was like uh yeah I came up and tapped you like a completely normal person to say hi. Except the third time when I tugged two of your fingers to emphasize like hey look at my face I'm T. We chatted several times.

I knew she recognized me then it was just weird reaction. I wasn't sure if she was on a date or group. The dude was beta fat guy. I wasn't trying to steal her. Honestly had no interest. Just wanted to say hi. Like a normal person.

I do at least try to cultivate social circles. But it's always the same shit. Either I end up all night in a boring group with nothing realistic for a same night lay or the girls are intimidated and give me the playboy routine. By the time they text me for a hookup I'm long gone.

This girl texted me that she thought I was too good looking for her. That the dude with her had met her several times for lunch and had a good heart. I'm like great. How does that explain you forgetting your own name?

I text that you have no manners. You could still say hello to me. Or say sorry I'm on a date. I just thought it was so weird that you denied who you were and looked at me like I was a tiger.

It honestly makes me feel like shit when I can't even interact normally with a mediocre Khmer girl. Even if the problem is my intimidating looks. What can I do about that?

I run into the kid who winged me two nights ago. He's running out of cheers with a gross backpacker. I'm like how'd it go with that girl the other night. He says oh I fucked her twice. I'm like really??

I realize my question is two fold. 1. Did you really want to fuck her bc I wasn't even into the hotter sister? 2. Did she actually put out bc I got the feeling they were too much work.

Every night I go out I have this same dialectic in my own mind. How are all these guys in the street willing to stay in set? Where is their motivation to bang average to below average girls coming from? I just don't get it.

Even if the girls were above average to hot. If your sex life continues comes down to a game of attrition, wearing her down for drunk sex at 3-4am, I have no interest.

I have to get up and go on an adventure everyday. Or at least hit a museum. But it's not just that. Even as a bummy teenager I never understood that kind of game. It makes me feel like there's something wrong with me.

I hit the street. The dance floor. Open the attractive chicks. Dance around. Reopen. Nothing hooking. I'm in bed 2am latest. It's just not worth it.

I realize I'm jealous of this guy for two reasons. 1. He managed to get laid and I didn't despite being in same situation. 2 He somehow managed to have the motivation and lack of ego to stay in set. When I left that night I realized I probably still had a decent shot if I just stick around what would amount to a few minutes. But I just had no interest and felt like what I valued more was getting up to sightsee.

Am I a beta for preferring this? I've basically always felt like this even before I had 100 lays. Can't fathom sacrificing my personal life and health unless she's a 10 maybe.

[Travel Museums]

Hit some sights south of Siem reap. Wat athvea requires an Angkor pass for itsruins. It's the only way worth checking out in town.

Then to Phnom krom which requires pass for ruins on its summit. Great view over Tonle sap lake (largest in SE Asia).

The boat tour of floating village of Chang kneas is a total rip off. Most tour operators won't even go there anymore bc it's such a poor experience. Only Chinese tour buses. They don't even take you into the real village area. Going on your own is $25! A tour operator can do it for $16 including the van to marina but good luck getting one. Save ur money.

Lots of talent outclast night at temple club. I was shocked. One or two stunners with no flaws except maybe their outfits. Ran into two Korean girls I opened at dinner. But they had three guys in tow and seemed into them. Tried to open the stunner but she's up on the center podium killing it. I think she's just out to dance and she's got a ugly friend or two.

Saw the Asian girl who was making out with Spanish dude a few nights ago. He didn't close it and had returned that night. I dance with her and she's not shy about putting hands on me. Makeout on dance floor.

Move to bar. But something is wrong with the beer taps. We wait awhile and I suggest another place for a drink. She says no. Back to dance floor. Getting awkward.

Say let's try drink again. Same Bullshit. This time say common were getting a drink somewhere. No resistance. Walk her down on street to convience store. She just has a soda.

Say I need to drop my phones off. Walk her to my place. No resistance. Ah AC I sit on bed. She sits on stool. Come here. Bring her to bed.

Start kissing. She moves back and lays down. Only 5 min ok? Ok.

Feel her pussy. She removes my hand. Try again she lets me massage over shorts.

Shortly she's saying she has to get back to friends. We have to go. Ok. I get up and sit at edge of bed. I can tell she's like huh he's not upset? I look at her with chemistry and brush her hair back over her ear.

I move forward and she lays down as I get on top. Soon she's naked and squirting. Fuck her rawdog and cum on her belly. Round two use a condom but take it off so I can come.

Round three went on all night. She was coming so often and fast. Only had one girl donthis before. A Japanese chick. Literally coming every ten seconds. Crazy sex.

Myanmar flag captured. I was second guy to have sex with her after her first and current bf. They live together in Singapore.

She was on tinder which is how she got with the other dude. He took her to dinner. Don't know how he Fucked it up. Easy lay. Solid 8. Loved her body too.

Caught the apsara dancers last night at corner bar. They perform at temple too. Lots of places charge for it but pub street it's free. Just order a drink. Took photo with dancers after show and put it on Instagram. A girl contacts me. Wants to travel with me. After brief texts she's packing. Takes first bus this morning. Arrives in an hour. Says she wants to be a model and blah blah. She's maybe a 7.

Fucked the Burmese girl until 5am then went to see sunrise. Trying to get a nap and heart of Angkor guesthouse is doing construction next to my room. Wtf guys. It's boom boom music all night now I can't sleep at noon? There logistics are good but the noise sucks balls.

[Travel Museums]

PP girl is 7.5. She comes to my room in Siem Reap and crawls into my bed. Kept clothes on. Period started

After some back and forty I get tits. Or lack thereof. Almost completely flat chested. Huge long nips. Had to teach her to kiss. I'm thinking virgin.

Got her a bike helmet. Bought her feminine tissues. Hit pub street with her.

Went to aspara dancers. Annoyed she ordered mojito for $5 when beer is 50 cents. Also spent a few meals on her. It's small stuff but she's not thanking me. And I learn she's basically got to be upper class since her dads high up in govt. So I have little tolerance for the lack of ettiquette.

Danced a little in temple club. She was loving it. Strutted pub street. Loving it. Ear to ear grin.

Get home and she acts drunk and sleepy and won't even kiss. I'm nice about it. But I'm like look I know the routine. I'm not a sucker. You can pretend to be asleep. I have to pack and plan anyway. So just listen to what I'm about to say.

I tell her I think you're probably a virgin even though you say you're not. That's fine. We don't have to do anything romantic at all if that's the case.

If you just want to be exposed to my "travel lifestyle" like you said I'll take you with me. But it's not glamour travel. I'm going on a motorbike adventure to remote provinces.

I've rejected other girls from easier trips. If you think you can manipulate me you might as well go home now. If you're not who you say you are fess up. At no point will you be getting cash from me.

Also, I have zero tolerance for bad manners, being used like an ATM, ignored when I ask questions, given cold shoulder, etc.

Just the way your pretending to sleep now is a bit immature. This convo needs to happen before we set off because obviously we don't have much chemistry. But I want to help you bc it distressed me to see chicks like you selling their ass for $10.

We just met and under odd circumstances. I know ur on period. So I'll give u a day to warm up. But if you don't at least start thanking me for paying and showing you around I'm going to get annoyed real quick.

She kinda nods. I'm like good so go brush your teeth.

We set off to kbal spean early. Do the tour of wildlife sanctuary. She's like now go back to Siem reap? I'm like uh no. I told you. Anlong veng.

Once there I redo my visa crossing into Thailand. We drive to ta moks cliff. Great view over cambodia plain. A couple bomb ass chicks speaking English at the restaurant there. I'm like damn too bad I have this dud with me.

See pol pots cremation site and ta moks house. Then drive to sra aem in preah vihear province. Next day plan to see prasat preah vihear which has been fought over by Cambodia and Thailand as recently as 2011.

On the way I get her to buy me lunch and pay for some gas. She's complaining about her back hurting. So I give her a massage. She complains about headache. Offer Tylenol and give head massage.

She starts complaining I want to go home. I miss my friends and family. I'm like what? You've been gone less than two days. She says it again. I'm like how old are you? 24. Hmm you sound like a kid at summer camp.

Try to rile her up with tickles but she doesn't want to fool around. I'm like hungry? No. I'm gonna eat. I leave key. Come back bc I forgot my phone that has guidebook. Locked out. She had walked off to market.

She finally comes back. I look up buses. Im like you can take a bus tomorrow if u really want to. But I think you should take opportunity to see rare temple. She plays dumb. Doesn't even really respond. Im like fuck this bullshit.

I go eat. Come back and shes out again. I text her. She's like I'll be back soon. I'm like your stuff is outside door. Please get your own room.

I'm drained and sleep early. Leave early to avoid her. Then drive to prasat preah Kahn. I didn't get to double check turn off. So I follow signs for old route which requires dirt bike. Try to follow it. Turns into an ordeal. Take a header and scrape my ankle. Almost run out of gas in the wilderness. Damage the motorbike. Realize I missed the correct route and it's to late to make it. Get back to main road and stay a night in Phnom dek.

Chick is still texting me asking for help. Now instead of a new lifestyle she just wants money. I'm like bitch I almost died bc of you. What is it with Cambodians. And ur one of the lucky educated ones. Just ask ur parents for money. I'm sure they've been spoiling you your whole life anyway. She says she has a new job. But she still needs money. I suggest selling her ass at pontoon. The end.

Prasat preah Kahn is worth the trip if you take right road. Made it there today. Only tourist. It's bigger than angkor Thom but ruined. Also the kuy village of rumcheck at Phnom dek junction is supposed to have a ethnic minority that will forge a forest hunting knife with you. Finally found guy mentioned in guidebook and he says he's too old and doesn't do it anymore.

Prasat preah vihear is also worth the visit and has a great view over Cambodia from Thai border. Only way to these places is moto or dropping hundreds of dollars on a private 4wd tour.

[Thaitanium]

Good to see you keep making the effort to see as much as possible. Aside from the girls and their childish behaviour, are you warming up on Cambodia, or is it all negative? You are going of the beaten track at least

[Travel Museums]

Like I said initially my biggest mistake was flying into pp first. SR is a much better starting point if you want easy lays + culture with minimal hookers.

Cambodia is still a shithole. There's decent islands if you're with a girl. Decent ruins and nature of ur with friends. You can find decent girls in SR half the nights maybe. It's very hit or miss esp without a good wing.

The problem as someone else described it. Normal Khmer girls see hookers getting money for sex. So they feel cheated if you don't pay for everything and give them money on top.

Most won't even associate with a foreigner unless he's living here. And then they pull virgin stuff. Even the college grads. They say if they're not a virgin a good Khmer man will reject them.

The hookers are busted or overweight. Idk why anyone would shore them. I went ahead with it once and it was as lackluster and annoying aftermath as I thought it'd be.

I met some decent Khmer girls on tinder but they have little education and manners. To me it's a huge turnoff but I'm sure wouldn't bother most guys in the least.

[Thaitanium]

I was talking more about the country in general. I enjoyed it when I was there a few years back, especially riding from one town to another on a motorbike. Kampot was nice to explore on a bike, with a lot of old french buildings around and the old casino on the hill station. But you are right, didn't see too much good looking girls. Should not go to Cambodia for that