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07-15-2014, 02:50 AM
TM is actually the reason I came across RooshV, originally.
If anything this could be interesting, although he seems to be entering a saturated market.
http://www.thematinggrounds.com/about-mating-grounds/
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07-15-2014, 03:12 AM
much has been discussed on the community about Mating Grounds, mixed reaction from everyone but a large number of people disliked this project and saw it as an attempt of repackaging all the contect we came through in the last 10 years and selling it at something new, Tucker Max even exchanged tweets with some of our guys about the issue ,if you use the search you will find a very long thread about it
try also searching for it at manosphere.com for more info
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07-15-2014, 03:20 AM
Didn't see it. Go ahead and post a link!
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07-15-2014, 05:23 AM
Pc repackaging of the last 16 years of pickup online. Plus the addition of more evolutionary psychology.
But it's not going to lead any reader to a Tucker Max style drunken adventure.
It's not the first time he's dissed pick up. He basically shitted in Style's dual induction massage technique for threesomes back in the day.
For shame.
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07-15-2014, 03:03 PM
This quote from his site should tell you all you need to know about this person:
We also believe that “success with women” means different things to different guys. Whether they want to be better at having short term relationships (hook-ups), or want to find a women to commit to and settle down with, or anything in between, the information here will help them achieve their goals in a way that is not only effective, but also honest, ethical, and rewarding to everyone involved (most importantly–the woman on the other side of the relationship).
We believe that most “Pick-up Artists” are sociopathic, bullshit scammers. The PUA scene is not transformational, it’s transactional. Its not about getting to know women, it’s about getting over on them. We believe Mating Grounds is the answer to the PUA strategy for all those men who have nothing meaningful to show for their efforts.
So, there you have it.
He's trying to brand himself as some sort of manosphere guru. And at the same time, trying to call all "PUA" guys (who blazed the trail for him) bums. They hypocrisy is so thick you could cut it with a knife.
Just another knob-nibbler.
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07-15-2014, 03:13 PM
Go easy on the guy
He is creating a free resource FOR MEN aimed at guys having a greater understanding of the way that the sexual marketplace works
We are guys, right?
There are plenty of guys on this site who do not regard themselves as PUAs and think the whole PUA thing is silly
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07-15-2014, 03:30 PM
@JJ Roberts:
I know most guys here don't consider themselves PUAs. Hell, I sure am not a "pick up artist". I'm just a guy trying to better himself in every way.
The reason I am so turned off by this guy is that he's trying to break into a field--the manosphere--by immediately ripping into everyone who came here before him, calling them all "sociopaths" and "scammers."
We all know exactly who the people are that he is referring to.
Why the hell does he have to do that? What kind of bullshit is that? If what he's selling is so good, why not let it shine on its own merits? Why tear other guys down?
And what exactly is Tucker Max offering? How to be a born-again Christian? Nothing but blue-pill, white knighting advice disguised as red pill advice. There's no edge to this guy, no passion, no suffering, no bitterness. I just look at him and I can tell. This guy's soft.
He's the worst type of snake out there: the man who pretends to be on your side, but who is really controlled by the feminized corporate interests. Have you read his webiste? It's all this hand-holding, ass-kissing bullshit.
He's throwing some big money around to try to capitalize on the manosphere, which he had nothing to do with contributing to.
So, yeah, that's my opinion.
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07-15-2014, 03:36 PM
I think he does a nice job of consolidating a lot of info for free on his site. I'll continue to check it out as it gets updated.
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07-15-2014, 04:21 PM
Quote: (07-15-2014 03:30 PM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:
Why the hell does he have to do that? What kind of bullshit is that? If what he's selling is so good, why not let it shine on its own merits? Why tear other guys down?
Well first of all I did not notice anything for sale on the site. So he doesn't seem to be selling anything.
As for distancing himself from PUAs, I think that's pretty smart.
I wrote a book a few years ago called Sex 3.0 that I have head some pickup INSTRUCTORS call the best thing they have ever read it terms of developing a mindset for picking up women but here is the thing .... it's ain't a PUA book.
So Sex 3.0 does not and will not have anything to do with the PUA industry either.
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07-15-2014, 04:24 PM
He is repackaging what others have written. That's sleazy in the usual 4 Hour Workweek way, but whatever. If he can monetize it, well, that's how the game is played.
That's not what he did, however.
He did not merely repackage what others have written and do his own thing.
He used the sleaziest of marketing tactics. He insulted everyone he stole from.
He shit in the face of everyone who has been around writing about these topics for years if not decades.
It was disrespect of the highest order.
Anyone who does not speak out against this has no personal integrity or self-respect as a man.
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07-15-2014, 04:31 PM
Quote: (07-15-2014 04:26 PM)MikeCF Wrote:
Quote: (07-15-2014 04:21 PM)JJ Roberts Wrote:
So Sex 3.0 does not and will not have anything to do with the PUA industry either.
How many people did you pay on Fiverr to write reviews for your books?
None.
I you read the book you would know that.
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07-15-2014, 06:27 PM
Generally speaking, no, although I can't speak to her personally.
Biology is not a social construct and females do not produce enough androgens to have that sort of deltoid definition.
The steroid cycle of choice of XFit girls is low-dose Anavar (10 mg/day) and small amounts of testosterone...sometimes just a little testosterone cream rubbed on the inside of their forearms.
A good way to tell if someone is "on" is to look at the size of deltoids. Deltoids are rich in androgen receptors. Testosterone and other anabolic steroids binds to the receptors. Here is an abstract:
The objective of this investigation was to study the effects of androgenic-anabolic steroid (AAS) misuse on deltoid muscle fiber characteristics in experienced, male strength-trained athletes. In a double-blind study, 15 volunteers were administered nandrolone decanoate (ND) for 8 weeks (200 mg/week, intramuscularly). In an additional study, 12 subjects self-administered various AASs at supratherapeutic dosages (AAS group), while 7 non-users served as controls. In all subjects, a percutaneous needle biopsy sample of the deltoid muscle was obtained at baseline and after 8 weeks. Muscle sections were pre-incubated at pH 4.4, stained with adenosine triphosphatase and analyzed morphometrically. In each biopsy sample, at least 150 fibers were classified for "gray level" and "lesser fiber diameter" to determine the mean fiber size, the sizes of type I and type II fibers, and the fiber type distribution. ND administration did not seem to affect any of those parameters. In the AAS group, mean muscle fiber size (+12.6%), and the size of type I (+10.8%) and type II (+14.6%) muscle fibers increased. The fiber type distribution remained unaltered. We conclude that polydrug regimens of AAS misuse at supratherapeutic dosages increased the size of deltoid muscle fibers (especially type II fibers) in experienced strength-trained athletes, while ND at a therapeutic intramuscular dose of 200 mg did not exert any effect.
See, "Misuse of androgenic-anabolic steroids and human deltoid muscle fibers: differences between polydrug regimens and single drug administration."