[Eskhander]

Clearly a highly intelligent and driven individual.

But she has a flaw: 31 with no husband or kids.

It's the smart women who go childless.

[Vaun]

This is 23andMe all over again. I knew of a hyper-ambitious individual in the VC world who convinced his young wife to lop off her breasts, when a 23andMe test came back saying there was a small chance that she could have breast cancer one day. It makes for one hell of a story at a valley cocktail party. I can't help but think she has nothing but dagger eyes for him now.

On the other hand you could take the tin foil hat view and say this is a major industry in cahoots with the gov't & media to shut down a disrupter. I am all for an underdog, but if a well timed WSJ article is all it takes to destroy a few billion in value, then the truth is stranger than fiction.

[RoastBeefCurtains4Me]

There are always a few unicorns. Kim Jordan is the CEO of New Belgium Brewery. She cofounded it with her husband in 1992, and was clearly the driving force in growing it to the eighth largest brewery in the US. Her husband was a hobby beer brewer and an electrical engineer. He wanted to start a brewery, and she handled the marketing and corporate management while he handled the brewing operations. He left entirely in 2001, and she build the brand from there to its current level of success. I had a hard time finding pictures of her in her youth, but at 56, she looks like she was probably attractive as a young woman. Even now, she retains some vestiges of femininity and attractiveness, for her age.

Unfortunately, she was a SJW before it was popular. However, there's no denying her accomplishments in business. New Belgium is apparently a good employer as well as being profitable and making good beer. A key point is that New Belgium substantially achieved its success when the micro brew industry was in its infancy, long before it became trendy.

I'm generally skeptical about women in positions of power, but there are some cases where women really do innovate and lead successfully. Might as well give credit where credit is due.

[Icarus]

(10-18-2015 08:21 PM)Vaun Wrote:  

This is 23andMe all over again.

I do not see any resemblance.

[NO_LIMIT_CRACKA]

(10-18-2015 08:21 PM)Vaun Wrote:  

This is 23andMe all over again.

What's wrong with 23andme? It was used more for ancestry DNA testing with the whole health genes research kind of supplemental to that. They even explicitly mention it just about anywhere on their site that the health research is EXPERIMENTAL. Use it as a glib funny thing to ponder about but if you base your health and medical decisions on that alone you have to be astronomically stupid.


Also this article sounds all kinds of fishy and sadly I see a lot of appeals to authority even in this thread alone. "B-b-b-b-but famous big name people gave her money so it means her company is solid!" No, it just means that people with a lot of money made a speculative investment. Big players do a lot of these speculative big investments especially into companies who promise some technological innovation that may or may not arrive, with the full knowledge that their investment could just burn up. That's how the whole venture capitalist thing works: invest a sum into many promising companies with the knowledge that some of it will burn up but some of it might reap results. Operative word is MIGHT here.

As a general attitude, I'm always skeptical about these sensationalist articles about "School dropout creates MULTI MILLION dollar company with x famous investors at the board!" as if the numbers and names should be indicative of anything. Cool story, she founded a company and is trying to create a product, come back when it's actually done, THEN it'll be a story. That's like adding a +1 notch count when you just got a number.

[Bona fide]

Here is the guy giving interesting account on Theranos http://www.mondaynote.com/2015/10/18/the...n-account/

Seems to be the test has extremely low sensitivity.In other words, it's rubbish (if the author's results are representative of course).

[Sourcecode]

Nah son..something is up with this chick.
Deep voice. Can't her make up right. I don't see any curves to her. Bug eyes.
Suspicious background.

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

Damn, another dream ruined by patriarchy reality.

[sour grapes]

Am I the only one to think she may be a transgender?

[Sourcecode]

I thought so too. The way society seems to be working right now.. If she was a tranny, we would know.

That community would claim her in a heartbeat.

[Vaun]

(10-19-2015 03:43 AM)Icarus Wrote:  

(10-18-2015 08:21 PM)Vaun Wrote:  

This is 23andMe all over again.

I do not see any resemblance.

"Revolutionary" health testing found to be bogus, you dont think thats similar?

[Icarus]

(10-21-2015 06:44 AM)Vaun Wrote:  

"Revolutionary" health testing found to be bogus, you dont think thats similar?

23andMe is in personal genomics, not medical diagnostics.

23andMe merely sequences your genome. It used to provide information on statistical likelihood of having a certain congenital illness, but it does not do that anymore. It's the statistical part that is somewhat bogus, not its actual technological part. If the sequencing were bogus, I would see a strong resemblance.

The crux of the matter is that diagnosing an illness you have at the moment and forecasting which illnesses you may have in the future are quite different.

[Vaun]

(10-21-2015 06:51 AM)Icarus Wrote:  

(10-21-2015 06:44 AM)Vaun Wrote:  

"Revolutionary" health testing found to be bogus, you dont think thats similar?

The crux of the matter is that diagnosing an illness you have at the moment and forecasting which illnesses you may have in the future are quite different.

I am not saying they are doing the same thing, but people were making major life decisions and taking drastic preventative steps(cutting off breasts with no evidence of cancer) based on the predictive data 23andme was putting out there. The FDA noticed and stepped in and forced them to stop that piece of their business. Again, they dont do exactly the same thing, maybe I should I have explained that here.

[Icarus]

(10-21-2015 07:05 AM)Vaun Wrote:  

people were making major life decisions and taking drastic preventative steps

Exactly. The problem was not in 23andMe's technology per se, but in the fact that its users were enormously overestimating the value of the statistical data the company provided.

[Menace]

Google Ventures did not invest in Theranos. Apparently, none of the reporters who covered this technology actually ever got a lab test themselves. One of the investors from Google went to get his blood tested, and instead of having basically a pinprick blood sample, they requested a full venous blood draw. Now why would that be?

I don't think this is a case of woman does X therefore bad; this is standard high tech scam-artistry that we have seen before. The people investing did not do their due diligence.

[Atlanta Man]

(07-07-2014 03:09 PM)Menace Wrote:  

An incredible invention. Unfortunately her patents will be held invalid because it is impossible for a woman to succeed in the tech field due to the patriarchy and not enough outreach and scholarships. Sorry guys.

WB

If I was the patent examiner at the USPTO would allow patent.

[TheOllam]

Saw this on Fortune.com

"Walgreens WBA (-0.83%) is reportedly looking into ways to definitely end its relationship with troubled blood-testing start up Theranos.

According to the Financial Times, citing people familiar with the matter, Walgreens has asked lawyers to comb through its contract with Theranos to see if it can force the once high-flying Silicon Valley “unicorn” led by Elizabeth Holmes to close 40+plus blood-testing wellness centers it operates within Walgreens’ drugstores in Arizona (and one in California.) If successful, Walgreens’ move would be a devastating blow to Theranos, which operates all but one of its centers within the drugstore chain’s stores.

A representative for Walgreens declined to comment to Fortune, while a spokeswoman for Theranos did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

This latest report marks a continued deterioration between the two companies. A few weeks ago, Walgreens told Theranos to immediately stop sending any lab tests provided through Theranos Wellness Centers at Walgreens to its lab in Newark, Calif. for analysis. The day before, the U.S. government’s Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS) said Theranos’ deficient practices at the Newark lab posed “immediate jeopardy to patient health and safety.”

Walgreens, which operates an 8,000-drugstore chain, doesn’t see how Theranos can quickly fix its regulatory problems, prompting it to looking into simply ending the companies’ arrangement, which has proven to be a big PR headache for Walgreens, the FT report said. Recent reports in the Wall Street Journal have suggested that its blood-testing devices were flawed and had problems with accuracy.

At the same time, the FT reported that Theranos believes Walgreens has little legal basis for terminating the partnership because it has submitted an improvement plan to CMS among other steps."

[The Beast1]

(03-01-2016 07:41 AM)TheOllam Wrote:  

Saw this on Fortune.com

"Walgreens WBA (-0.83%) is reportedly looking into ways to definitely end its relationship with troubled blood-testing start up Theranos.

According to the Financial Times, citing people familiar with the matter, Walgreens has asked lawyers to comb through its contract with Theranos to see if it can force the once high-flying Silicon Valley “unicorn” led by Elizabeth Holmes to close 40+plus blood-testing wellness centers it operates within Walgreens’ drugstores in Arizona (and one in California.) If successful, Walgreens’ move would be a devastating blow to Theranos, which operates all but one of its centers within the drugstore chain’s stores.

A representative for Walgreens declined to comment to Fortune, while a spokeswoman for Theranos did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

This latest report marks a continued deterioration between the two companies. A few weeks ago, Walgreens told Theranos to immediately stop sending any lab tests provided through Theranos Wellness Centers at Walgreens to its lab in Newark, Calif. for analysis. The day before, the U.S. government’s Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS) said Theranos’ deficient practices at the Newark lab posed “immediate jeopardy to patient health and safety.”

Walgreens, which operates an 8,000-drugstore chain, doesn’t see how Theranos can quickly fix its regulatory problems, prompting it to looking into simply ending the companies’ arrangement, which has proven to be a big PR headache for Walgreens, the FT report said. Recent reports in the Wall Street Journal have suggested that its blood-testing devices were flawed and had problems with accuracy.

At the same time, the FT reported that Theranos believes Walgreens has little legal basis for terminating the partnership because it has submitted an improvement plan to CMS among other steps."

Thanks for reviving this thread. I recalled reading on ZH that Theranos' company ended up going belly up.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-01-25...-deficient

Quote:

It seems billion dollar baby of Silcon Valley, Elizabeth Holmes, is facing yet another unicorn-slaying moment as the fairy-take ending for Stanford drop-out looks increasingly distant after a WSJ report that U.S. health inspectors have found serious deficiencies at Theranos Inc.’s laboratory in Northern California, according to people familiar with the matter. With a board full of big swinging dicks about to be exposed for the greater fools they truly are, failing to fix the problems could put the Theranos lab at risk of suspension from the Medicare program.

Effectively her dream of success is dead unless she does something drastic. That was a few months ago and haven't heard any news since.

[TheOllam]

I was following these stories before joining the board. I have experience with start-ups, scams come in all forms from both men and women. But over the past few years, when the story becomes too much about the woman founder, the business is using a pro-active PR boost to appeal to the Female Public while behind the scenes, it's total chaos.

Everything is worse than I could have imagined, and yet I'm happy I took the Red Pill.......

Edit: Published Feb 10, This stuff, it's garbage:

Meet the Women of the Upstart 100!

"It's a list of "rebels, dreamers, contrarians and big thinkers," and more than a few women made the cut.

Upstart Business Journal, a Biz women sister publication, took on the task of surveying what has become a vast landscape of entrepreneurs, investors and innovators and narrowing that to a relatively compact list of 100. They are the Upstart 100 and are classified as inventors, reinventors, backers, creatives, visionaries and masters.

Among them: Jessica Alba, co-founder of The Honest Company; Alexa Von Tobel, CEO of LearnVest; Elizabeth Holmes, CEO of Theranos; Theresia Gouw and Jennifer Fonstad, partners with Aspect Ventures; and Caterina Fake, CEO of Findery and a co-founder of Flickr."

Quote:

Thanks for reviving this thread. I recalled reading on ZH that Theranos' company ended up going belly up.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-01-25...-deficient

Quote:

It seems billion dollar baby of Silcon Valley, Elizabeth Holmes, is facing yet another unicorn-slaying moment as the fairy-take ending for Stanford drop-out looks increasingly distant after a WSJ report that U.S. health inspectors have found serious deficiencies at Theranos Inc.’s laboratory in Northern California, according to people familiar with the matter. With a board full of big swinging dicks about to be exposed for the greater fools they truly are, failing to fix the problems could put the Theranos lab at risk of suspension from the Medicare program.

Effectively her dream of success is dead unless she does something drastic. That was a few months ago and haven't heard any news since.
[/quote]

[Panokko]

Excited about the invention and its implications, disappointed that it might not come to pass....
and WB

[TheOllam]

Holmes is running a fundraiser for Clinton at the Theranos headquarters in Palo Alto CA.

"...Prize-winning reporting from the Wall Street Journal indicates that her multibillion dollar startup’s highly publicized blood-testing technology isn’t as successful as Theranos has made it seem."

"One person Holmes hasn’t lost? Hillary Clinton, apparently."



WB / WNB / WTFWNB

[SlickyBoy]

Looks like their tests aren't all they are cracked up to be.

Quote:

Theranos smacked down again, accuracy of tests fails to match major competitors
Mar 28 2016, 17:39 ET | By: Douglas W. House, SA News Editor Contact this editor with comments or a news tip

Upstart clinical diagnostics firm Theranos gets yet another black eye about its operations. In a study conducted by scientists at the Icahn School of Medicine at Mount Sinai Hospital in New York, blood samples from 60 healthy adults were sent to Theranos, LabCorp (NYSE:LH) and Quest Diagnostics (NYSEGX) to compare the accuracy of 22 common tests. The results generated by LH and DGX were from samples obtained via traditional needle-based phlebotomy.The results of the study showed Theranos' test results were 160% more likely to be abnormal. The specific analyte cited was cholesterol, which Theranos showed a systematic bias toward lower values. Researchers said the variance was large enough to exceed the regulatory limit which could lead to inappropriate choices by doctors and patients based on inaccurate data.Unsurprisingly, the company takes a dim view of the study saying, "We do not believe that the actions of the authors present a sound or scientific way to engage with us about the efficacy of our technologies. It has produced a flawed and inaccurate study and we are disappointed that any journal would accept this study for publication."

[Aurini]

Even if her device works as it is claimed to, she still would have been of greater benefit to society if she'd married a higher-IQ man, raised high-IQ babies for him, while inspiring him into greatness (and contributing as well, as only a high-IQ woman could).

I am not saying that she should have been forced into doing this; but she likely would have been much happier in the long run if she'd followed this route. In another twenty years, she's likely going to find herself largely forgotten, sharing a townhouse with her aging mother and writing the occasional paper while working for a pharmaceutical company.

[storm]

(03-29-2016 02:24 PM)Aurini Wrote:  

Even if her device works as it is claimed to, she still would have been of greater benefit to society if she'd married a higher-IQ man, raised high-IQ babies for him, while inspiring him into greatness (and contributing as well, as only a high-IQ woman could).

I am not saying that she should have been forced into doing this; but she likely would have been much happier in the long run if she'd followed this route. In another twenty years, she's likely going to find herself largely forgotten, sharing a townhouse with her aging mother and writing the occasional paper while working for a pharmaceutical company.

Not likely.

She has almost certainly frozen some of her eggs. She will pick a top ten boyfriend from SV and have a designer family based on some bizarre techno-cultist principles. Her children (she will have at least three) will go on to above-average accomplishments. Because she never wore make-up, tanned, or partied and works in a health company, she will look 40 at 80 years old and have the energy to match it.

She will do just fine. Smart people have a tendency to do that.

[Samseau]

(03-29-2016 04:08 PM)storm Wrote:  

She will do just fine. Smart people have a tendency to do that.

Well, turns out she is NOT doing fine...

http://www.wsj.com/articles/regulators-p...1460570869

Quote:

Federal health regulators have proposed banning Theranos Inc. founder Elizabeth Holmes from the blood-testing business for at least two years after concluding that the company failed to fix what regulators have called major problems at its laboratory in California.

In a letter dated March 18, the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services said it plans to revoke the California lab’s federal license and prohibit its owners, including Ms. Holmes and Theranos’s president, Sunny Balwani, from owning or running any other lab for at least two years. That would include the company’s only other lab, located in Arizona.

The two labs generate most of Theranos’s revenue and are at the core of its strategy to revolutionize the blood-testing industry with new technology, user-friendliness and quick results.

The letter hasn’t been released to the public, but a copy was reviewed by The Wall Street Journal.

Under federal law, Theranos had 10 days to give CMS evidence of why the sanctions shouldn’t be imposed. The company has responded, and CMS is reviewing the response, according to a person familiar with the matter.

Don't know what kind of Frankenstein experiments this chick has been running, but apparently they are violating ethical norms and putting people in danger. If this operation gets shut down the fallout will be huge.

According to ZH, this company has tons of big name investors riding on it:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-04-13...ting-busin





Well, at least she's still young enough to find herself a husband become a good housewife. Turns out there is more to being a scientist than having a vagina and wearing a Steve Jobs turtleneck.