[Screwston]

I'm 23 so I guess 30 and up is old for me. I got a 31 year olds number a few years ago at my job and ended up fucking her the first night. We still keep in touch and talk sometimes, she's cool and knows I'm a hoe. I think that was more of me being in the right place at the right time. I was surprised when she actually wrote her number down and gave it to me. Found out later she was going thru a divorce.


How would I go about talking to older women and ultimately fucking them? I know I can't approach them like a younger girl, they've heard it all. I also know they like it when a young guy hits on them, it makes them feel younger.

[tomtud]

From my experience dealing with older women, you go through less BS than you do with the younger ones.....

There was a time where I dabbled on pof.com online dating.... and I would not even bother with the younger broads,,, just women in their 30s and early 40s.... I am 32 btw.... the success rate of getting a response and date from these women are much higher imho.... My friends say the same...

My advice, is to be yourself and don't be shy..... Older women imho don't play as many games, and will be prompt when dealing with you.... I can't say much for the younger ones when you are in the initial phases of dating....

[Luckystar]

(03-01-2011 09:03 PM)tomtud Wrote:  

From my experience dealing with older women, you go through less BS than you do with the younger ones.....

There was a time where I dabbled on pof.com online dating.... and I would not even bother with the younger broads,,, just women in their 30s and early 40s.... I am 32 btw.... the success rate of getting a response and date from these women are much higher imho.... My friends say the same...

My advice, is to be yourself and don't be shy..... Older women imho don't play as many games, and will be prompt when dealing with you.... I can't say much for the younger ones when you are in the initial phases of dating....

[oldnemesis]

(02-25-2011 07:46 PM)houston Wrote:  

How would I go about talking to older women and ultimately fucking them? I know I can't approach them like a younger girl, they've heard it all. I also know they like it when a young guy hits on them, it makes them feel younger.

Be more direct, and be ready. The older they become, the less afraid they are to ask what they want. If she likes you, things progress much quicker than with young chicks.

[maestrobaires]

be yourself and keep cool

they are a lot more straightforward and bullshit and games are kinda reduced

i don't date younger girls. strange enough i'm not attracted to the 20-22 crowd like most guys are. well, i'm in my mid-30s and have sister in her early-20s.

[Tommy]

I like older women especially mid thirties with fit bodies

[maestrobaires]

it's a question what do you consider an older woman

[OSL]

Older women def have perks, I think Entropy has a posting about that somewhere that was really interesting - something about men who have older parents tend to be attracted to older women. Not sure if it's true but it would sort of explain a lot.

[Dueyz]

I have this discussion with a good friend of mine from time to time. I think it depends on what you"re looking for at the time. Sex with older woman is easier and less restrictive. Sex with younger women is more work (being in charge), but includes a tighter body with parts in their original place. My question is; are you talking about fucking or dating?

Fucking: An older woman knows how to fuck, because she's fucked her share. She's also uninhibited and not shy. She has been there and done that. She knows by now what works (in general) and has no problem getting straight to it. She's also (likely) been trained by all those who came before you, so you can skip that part.

A younger woman aims to please, but is the co-pilot in the bedroom. She's watched porn, but lacks experince. More importantly, she is still somewhat shy about how to truly cut loose when fucking. She hasn't mastered what she wants, nor what a man wants.

Dating: An older woman has emotional baggage. She's callused towards love, but feels time passing. She's more likely to share a "let's settle down" mentality, and will be in line with long term options. She's spent enough time with herself and life to know what she wants.

A younger woman has NO clue how to make a relationship work, but is great for your libido. You always run the risk of her bailing at some point when she finally grows into her own skin. She may realize you're not what she wants after all, and you're back to square one. She does offer the opportunity to develop a relationship based off of your partnership, rather than the affore mentioned baggage of previous experiences.

There are exceptions on both sides, but regardless....you need to know what you're looking for first.

[Screwston]

I just want to fuck older women.

[Dueyz]

(03-09-2011 01:42 AM)houston Wrote:  

I just want to fuck older women.

Check out some of Roosh's key points on this; take a bit from some strangers if you think they have a point; add in what you already know and you should get some.

* I've had 5 or 6 women 12-15 years older than me, and it's always been great times with little stress.

[Screwston]

I'm starting to get obsessed with cougars and milfs. I've been hitting them up like crazy on POF with no success. They all want guys closer to their age and I think my young looking face isn't helping. I have no idea what bars or lounges to hit up for them. Shit, I'm thinking about "shopping" at Target with some nice clothes on and seeing what I can do. I love how their face looks when I've gone up to them in the past and started talking. They love that shit.

Anyone got some more advice?

[Kickb]

Dude go to an upscale grocery store between 12pm to 5pm. You will see so many hot moms its ridiculous. I'd capitalize on this myself but im only 20 and wont feel good about my chances until i turn 21. Good luck

[FretDancer]

(05-16-2011 09:54 PM)houston Wrote:  

I'm starting to get obsessed with cougars and milfs. I've been hitting them up like crazy on POF with no success. They all want guys closer to their age and I think my young looking face isn't helping. I have no idea what bars or lounges to hit up for them. Shit, I'm thinking about "shopping" at Target with some nice clothes on and seeing what I can do. I love how their face looks when I've gone up to them in the past and started talking. They love that shit.

Anyone got some more advice?

Can't say I have full cougar experience, but correct me if I'm wrong, cougars dig young faces, thats the point of being a cougar isnt it? I'm not familiar with online dating but I suppose that POF approach doesn't work against older women, if you really love older women try finding the bars where older people usually go to and work your game there.

[maestrobaires]

bookstores, namely with coffeeshops are the way to go too

and no bullshit

if you play it right, they are easier to bed than your average young bimbo

[el mechanico]

(03-09-2011 01:42 AM)houston Wrote:  

I just want to fuck older women.

Make another profile on pof,dress more mature in the pics and change your age to 29.Then start cougar hunting!

[Samseau]

According to Roissy, a lot of you guys are wrong

Quote:

31 to 34 year olds

In some ways, women in the 31-34 age range are the toughest broads to game. (By “toughest”, it is meant “most time consuming”.) It’s counterintuitive, yes, but there are factors at work besides her declining beauty which mitigate against the easy, quick lay. For one, it is obviously harder to meet single 31-34 year old women than it is to meet single younger women. Marriage is still a pussy-limiting force to contend with for the inveterate womanizer, but Chateau apprentices are hard at work battling the scourge of mating market disturbances caused by the grinding and churning of the marriage machine.

But the bigger reason 31-34 year olds are harder to game than any other age group of women has to do with the wicked nexus of entitlement and self-preservation that occurs at this age in women. When you combine a disproportionate sense of entitlement fueled by years of feminism, steady paychecks and promotions, and cheerleading gay boyfriends with suspicions of every man’s motives and a terrible anxiety of being used for a sexual fling sans marriage proposal, you get a venom-spitting malevolent demoness on guard against anything she might perceive as less than total subjugation to her craving for incessant flattery and princess pedestaling.

Note that Chateau guests aren’t necessarily complaining. A harder-to-game 33 year old is kind of like getting bumped down from a Honda Civic rental but driving off the lot with the consolation prize of a Ferrari.

Listen to any man who is good with women and they will tell you the same thing:

“I have an easier time bedding and dating 23 year olds than I do 33 year olds.”

This defies all logic until you see it through the eyes of the hamster sweating its fluffy ass off in a woman’s brain. (Poor little creature must be pooped out by the mid-30s.) Sure, a 33 year old is not as hot as the 23 year old version of herself, but her ASD is through the roof, as is her self-conception as a hot marriage-worthy commodity. Many older women will tell themselves that their experience, maturity, accomplishments and financial stability mean they should be way more valuable to men seeking wives than some young babe on the take. Of course, they have to tell themselves this because reality isn’t making it easy to believe.

These are the kind of women who have sexual flings with college guys, because they can psychologically box those men in as “purely for fun” adventures. But the men the 31-34 year old women really want are the older, established men who will give them a marriage proposal and a family. This is why it is counterintuitively harder to game the older woman who still retains a vestige of her youthful attractiveness: she wants and expects so much more than the younger woman.

Game required: Strong body language, masculine dominance, sharp suits and shoes, easy on the negs and palm reading, emphasis on the comfort stage, lots of travel stories, disqualify yourself from sex on the first date, vulnerability game, avoidance of the beta provider zone.

In short, if you can present yourself to her as different than the indistinguishable mass of sad schlumpy beta herbs who are her typical choice in available men, then you are guaranteed the lay. Just don’t expect to sleep with her on the first night. She will work hard to make your seduction as difficult and drawn out as possible.

Note: DO NOT SPEAK OF THE YOUNGER WOMEN YOU DATE to an older woman. You will be tempted to do this to demonstrate your higher value, but instead she will withdraw so fast into her ego-preserving turtle shell that no game will redeem the pickup. If the subject comes up, just tell her you’ve “dated many interesting women” and leave it at that.

http://roissy.wordpress.com/2010/08/12/t...e-bracket/

[Screwston]

So how exactly should I approach older women? I refuse to believe all that shit Roissy wrote. I'm going for 35-45 yr olds anyways

[Kickb]

if i want to flirt with a cougar i look for her to be buying alcohol. If she comes through my line with alcohol ill say "Hey let me see your ID" and useually they will smile alot and comment on how this never happens. Ill take the ID and with a suspiciuos face ill look back and fforth at her and the ID and question if it is real. useually i get laughs and they insist it is. then i say "hmm...idk.." and then i flip it over and look at it more and say "this looks like a fake. the person in the picture looks nothing like you" and then i go from there.

However, this doesnt really help you unless you get a part time job as a cashier

[Samseau]

(05-17-2011 12:15 AM)houston Wrote:  

So how exactly should I approach older women? I refuse to believe all that shit Roissy wrote. I'm going for 35-45 yr olds anyways

Of the women I've dated in their 30's, Roissy confirms my experience 110%

Older women have MUCH higher expectations, more baggage and hangups over sex, are less fun to be around, but have less to offer.

It sounds like to me you want older women because you want easy sex. But if you want easy lays, the trick isn't older women, it's uglier women. See the "would you consider this a 5" thread.

[UrbanNerd]

Well, I am around that "cougar" age now but when I was in my 20's, MOST of the women I bedded were older than me. For one (like someone mentioned), they are more straight-forward which I actually liked because I am straight-forward. I will admit that I have been ruined by corporate America so I want things done in a short amount of N-steps and reach a goal.

Now some of these older women wanted marriage and they may have posed issues but if you meet those older women who have either given up on marriage and/or are divorced and not thinking about marriage (and have older kids), it can be a wonderful thing. When they say that they will show up at 10:00pm, they arrive at 9:59pm. You won't have to done all of that sappy junk like "girl I am just playing with you" and go through a bunch of teases with an older woman. They get down to business.

I don't see why folks are taking Roissy's writings like they are gold.

It's about MAXimizing your notches while MINimizing your effort. I don't see the point of putting all of this effort, lining of 1,000 ducks in a row to get a certain chick. After awhile, you end up taking precious time from more important things like increasing your wealth or watching Alabama vs. LSU.

[Screwston]

(05-17-2011 06:16 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

(05-17-2011 12:15 AM)houston Wrote:  

So how exactly should I approach older women? I refuse to believe all that shit Roissy wrote. I'm going for 35-45 yr olds anyways

Of the women I've dated in their 30's, Roissy confirms my experience 110%

Older women have MUCH higher expectations, more baggage and hangups over sex, are less fun to be around, but have less to offer.

It sounds like to me you want older women because you want easy sex. But if you want easy lays, the trick isn't older women, it's uglier women. See the "would you consider this a 5" thread.

I'm willing to put in work to fullfil my fantasies....break down the milf game if you can..

[wi30]

You need to seriously check out Toys R Us. I had to pick up a toy for my nephew the other day and I have never seen so many milfs in my life. I was in a hurry so I didn't approach but I'm sure you could make a killing there. The majority of them looked like single moms but you could of course look for a ring before you approach.

[oldnemesis]

(05-16-2011 09:54 PM)houston Wrote:  

I'm starting to get obsessed with cougars and milfs. I've been hitting them up like crazy on POF with no success. They all want guys closer to their age and I think my young looking face isn't helping.

Try to make your profile more serious/deep, and tone down your messages to maturity. Do not change your age, and make sure your pictures are appropriate to your new profile and messages (i.e. no "me and my stupid drunk friends peeing on a sidewalk" type pics). The point you should be communicating is that you're very mature for your age, and you want to hand out with a mature women. Online cougars like it.

However you'd probably have much more success with cougars in a bar (especially if this is an upscale place). As a bonus, they usually offer to buy you drinks

[Chad Daring]

(03-05-2011 05:34 PM)maestrobaires Wrote:  

it's a question what do you consider an older woman

(Age*2)-8

Thats the formula I've always been told

And for girls that are younger (for the older guys)

(Age/2)+8