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Don't Let Frustration With Women Make You Feel Bad About Life In General
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Don't Let Frustration With Women Make You Feel Bad About Life In General

Also really appreciating the wisdom in this thread. I have accepted the nature and challenges of relationships, especially in the Western world, and the vital importance of gratitude, living life on my terms and not allowing others to dictate terms or change my mood. I am closer to making a physical move that will increase my independence and life safisfaction plus provide a challenge that only relocation can. I've been focusing on building my business, making investments, and deepening my commitment to self-improvement along with enjoying moments of beauty throughout the day. As always, there is no place I trust more to learn from and share with than the men of this forum. Thank you, brothers.
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#77

Don't Let Frustration With Women Make You Feel Bad About Life In General

I'm just glad a place like this exists where men can share their wisdom and experiences with other men. We can all learn something from each other and support one another as we go through this thing called life. Especially in this current age of history when we're getting shit on left and right just for having a dick.

We're all in this together.

"Once you've gotten the lay you have won."- Mufasa

"You Miss 100% of the shots you don't take"- Wayne Gretzky
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#78

Don't Let Frustration With Women Make You Feel Bad About Life In General

Been needing this advice lately.
It's as if by not accepting you feel like you have at least
some sort of control instead of being powerless
in a world where women are the shittiest they have ever been. May days grant me wisdom to not feel angry about the situation.

This gem needs to be back on the front page.
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#79

Don't Let Frustration With Women Make You Feel Bad About Life In General

Bump again...even putting aside the woman thing specifically which is really disappointing, I'm someone who tends to let whatever bother of the day take over my thoughts and mood and not give myself credit for everything that's going well.

I've been working on getting my inner game right which has been slipping for a while...the most helpful thing has been really developing confidence that the things I am doing that I enjoy are OK, be it staying in to read books, or ditching pub nights to get in an evening workout, and carrying with me that sense that because of those things I'm in control of myself, I'm building the Badger I want to be, which snowballs into the confidence and non-neediness you need to game girls effectively.

I also agree with some commenters who suggests it's not that the game is frustrating or challenging as much as it's boring much of the time. There is a real diminishing return, and spending too much time doing it or even thinking about your game can rob you of the time to develop the things you'll use for that inner game. That said I jive with the guys who are frustrated and feeling they're missing out as they see other guys get either new sluts on the weekly or successful serious relationships. When you think you understand game and you still see pairings that don't make sense, it makes you wonder if the whole thing isn't just total luck in a way you can't change your odds.
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#80

Don't Let Frustration With Women Make You Feel Bad About Life In General

What helped me was realizing women have both personal responsibility and a vulnerability for absorbing the best and worst a culture throws at them.

If I meet a tatted thot with a nose ring and a bad attitude, I know she made bad choices and my boundaries won't allow me to even buy her a drink. At the same time, I understand her parents failed her and she's mired in a culture that enables and rewards the worst behavior.

So while my values are firm, I understand how a girl could get caught up in that shit and turn into a caricature of sjw western women. This means I harbor no resentment, bitterness or frustration with the state of women. It's in their nature to follow, and right now, there are few good leaders. I suppose this is a combination of understanding my own values while acknowledging that women, in general and as a whole, are the victims of a declining western empire - but a different kind of victim than the left claims women are. Women are the victims of the very people proclaiming how victimized they are.

There's a Buddhist saying which I like: To understand is to forgive. I have forgiven modern women because I understand them.

But that doesn't mean I take their shit.
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Don't Let Frustration With Women Make You Feel Bad About Life In General

Quote: (07-04-2014 02:14 PM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:  

At the same time, men should understand that the entirety of life is not limited to the world of eros and relations with women. Don't let the fact that the world of women is so tough stain the way you feel about life in general. There are vast other parts of life that can be enjoyed and that are endless sources of interest and pleasure. Don't miss out on life as a whole just because a part of life -- even a major part -- is fraught with problems and difficulties.

Realising this should be a more important part of one's inner game than any enforced abundance mentality. The latter can verge on self-delusion in the anglosphere and also relies on the principle that it is women who can add true lasting value to your life.

You should approach women with the attitude that women in general offer very little value to your life in comparison with your other passions, not that there are other women out there of the same or better quality you could also obtain. Men are gifted with the ability to be passionate about things in themselves, not because they satisfy the female need for attention. These will vary for each man, but they bring a much more intense and lasting satisfaction than the transitory pleasures of even a feminine, compliant 10.

Quote: (07-04-2014 02:14 PM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:  

When I look around me, I see a world that has never been more interesting and more amazing. The Internet is the most wondrous invention in the history of mankind; it allows us to access a million libraries of Alexandria in the palm of our hand. Life has never been more safer or more physically comfortable; there have never been greater opportunities for men to live a healthy lifestyle, to keep their bodies fit and their minds sharp. There are so many things to be interested in, to develop knowledge or even expertise about, to simply enjoy and be entertained by, that it's an embarrassment of riches at every moment.

This passage I have to fundamentally disagree with and I know it wasn't intended this way, but it sounds almost bugmanish. I think many in the manosphere feel a malaise about modernity in general and its effects on masculine men. The depreciating quality of women is just one aspect of this.

Safety and physical comfort carry a psychic cost for men. I also disagree about the opportunities for a healthy lifestyle and a sharp mind. Xenestrogens abound. Modern work is often sedentary. Technology is destroying our attention spans.

And the mere accumulation of knowledge adds little without a backbone of values.

Quintius put it well earlier in this thread:

Quote: (07-05-2014 02:15 AM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  

Sometimes I really believe that the medieval and ancient worlds were wiser than we are, because they emphasized art, religion, and faith rather than naked science and technology, as we do. I wonder what "progress" has really bought us. Are we any happier now than man in 1500? Man in 900? Man in 100 B.C.? I am not so sure. Educated elites of past ages were far more refined than we are.

Progress in knowledge, science, technology, and power is only progress in means. Unless we improve our ends, purposes, or desires, then "progress" is nothing but an illusion. Reason improves the instrumentalities, but the ends are determined by instincts that come with us from birth. And the only proven checks on instinct are the moral codes of religion.
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#82

Don't Let Frustration With Women Make You Feel Bad About Life In General

"And the mere accumulation of knowledge adds little without a backbone of values."

Yes, but more importantly is to develop an individual sense of purpose. Everyone spends most of their time doing things out of necessity, to build personal comfort, impress others, raise social standing. Sense of purpose is something beyond that. Something you'd want to be remembered by. A legacy.

Most people value things they don't have and are difficult to obtain. However, it's also a cliche' that those who reach the mountaintop feel an immediate sense of anticlimax. The striving tends to be more fulfilling. For instance, I don't know how happy Tom Cruise is, but the fact he learned how to fly a helicopter (and act out a scene at the same time) at 55 and has managed to stay in the sort of physical shape he's in gives himself a sense of continued purpose that most people his age have long lost.

That's the problem with youth in general, hence the problem with bangable women. They have no sense of what they were put on this earth to do, and so naturally they fall back onto little more than superficial pursuits and acting out of raw hypergamy instinct.
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