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Don't Let Frustration With Women Make You Feel Bad About Life In General
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Don't Let Frustration With Women Make You Feel Bad About Life In General

Ripped this from Roosh's blog. http://www.rooshv.com/all-women-burn-you...in-the-end

"I would personally recommend guys starting out to not think about entering a relationship until you've internalised the game as part of your character and built a life that you're genuinely happy about."




"Guest • 8 days ago
I used to hate on girls for this, but looking at it in perspective. It's no different to a gf getting fat and lazy.

When it comes to relationships, having game isn't enough. Its a great tool for getting them, but you ultimately have to have something more in order to keep it healthy. Otherwise, you will simply be living a false life of feeling unhappy and insecure and pretending not to be, which hurts your self-esteem in the long term.

You have to "BE' attractive rather than consciously use game to keep her around. Or in other words, build a life you're happy with and have her simply come along for the ride.

I would personally recommend guys starting out to not think about entering a relationship until you've internalised the game as part of your character and built a life that you're genuinely happy about.

For me personally, its as simple as getting over the sex after fucking the girl a few times as I believe its the sex that makes a guy lose control in the relationship, along with lack of ambition and a scarcity mindset, which leads to neediness.

If you can get over the sex, have a life outside of your relationship and maintain the abundance mindset, you will naturally display all of the characteristics needed in order to keep her interest.

It's what i'm experiencing at the moment with my current Polish girlfriend. 3 years ago, I would have killed to get a girl like her. And I pinch myself now whenever I see how hot she is.

Yet i'm not grovelling, pleasing or entertaining her and am having regular meals cooked for me on a weekly basis and offers to have sex unprompted.

It's the healthiest way to maintain a great relationship in my opinion as its all natural.

The main reason why guys fail at their relationships is purely because of the fact that they're not congruent, which girls figure out by dishing out shit tests. A shit test is to check for independence and non-neediness.

Theres simply no better way to pass these tests in my opinion than to build a life you're truly happy about because you genuinely wouldn't be phased if she stayed or left the relationship knowing that you would be happy either way.

And this can't be faked...

The best part of this is that you won't even know you're being tested because you'll no longer be conscious of it."

"I have refused to wear a condom all of my life, for a simple reason – if I’m going to masturbate into a balloon why would I need a woman?"
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#27

Don't Let Frustration With Women Make You Feel Bad About Life In General

It looks like the community is collectively realizing that women, in the end, can never be more than a hobby for men, a garnish to our lives, and the more we think that our relationships with them will give happiness or fulfillment, the more we will be disappointed.
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Don't Let Frustration With Women Make You Feel Bad About Life In General

^^^
That pretty much sums up my feelings at this point.

We've been fed lies our whole lives about how women can "make us perfect" and "complete us"....and it just isn't so.
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#29

Don't Let Frustration With Women Make You Feel Bad About Life In General

At the same time, playing the game without emotional attachment is just plain fun. Approaching women, trying to escalate, overcoming obstacles, using language to build attraction, and being intimate with nature's beautiful creatures can't be matched easily by other hobbies. I can say without a doubt that my life would be less enjoyable without women, but at the same time we must be realistic about what they can provide us. Balance is the key. If you're tired of women or upset with them, either take a break of try a different approach/venue. If that doesn't help, there is always the monastery. [Image: smile.gif]
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#30

Don't Let Frustration With Women Make You Feel Bad About Life In General

Quote: (07-06-2014 04:24 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

It looks like the community is collectively realizing that women, in the end, can never be more than a hobby for men, a garnish to our lives, and the more we think that our relationships with them will give happiness or fulfillment, the more we will be disappointed.

I've yet to meet a woman who didn't complicate both my life and hers through her deliberate choice to do so. Drama is crack to them.

I often think I accomplish what I do in life despite the women in it.
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Don't Let Frustration With Women Make You Feel Bad About Life In General

For me, the best way to explain it is that I've had to reprogram my thinking in many different ways. But some residue of the old way of thinking still remains in your brain, no matter what. Or maybe it's just me.

It's been difficult (but necessary) for me to accept the fact that you can't really share your inner feelings or thoughts with women. They just don't want to hear it, and somehow interpret talking about "feelings" as weakness. I know, I know: they say just the opposite. They say they want us to "share" all these emotional intimacies, but once you do that, you're screwed. In reality they don't like to hear men reveal too much of themselves.

You can try, and under some circumstances, you can succeed. But my experience is that, for the vast majority, they will end up somehow using that against you at some future date. Any hint, any suggestion of non-masculine behavior will work against you.

That's the regret I have. I hear guys say that their girlfriend/wife is a "soul mate" that they can say "anything" to. But in my experience, if you try that, you lose all your power in the relationship. They secretly feel contempt for you if you do that.

I suspect that many of the guys who do this are not fully aware that they have thrown their power away. I've tried to probe into this with such guys, but I get the usual blue-pill sense of outrage from them.

Maybe someone else here can relate to this.
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#32

Don't Let Frustration With Women Make You Feel Bad About Life In General

Quote: (07-06-2014 05:33 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  

Quote: (07-06-2014 04:24 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

It looks like the community is collectively realizing that women, in the end, can never be more than a hobby for men, a garnish to our lives, and the more we think that our relationships with them will give happiness or fulfillment, the more we will be disappointed.

I've yet to meet a woman who didn't complicate both my life and hers through her deliberate choice to do so. Drama is crack to them.

I often think I accomplish what I do in life despite the women in it.

I'm starting to feel that too. That the hunt isn't worth the trouble if the trouble is going to overpower the benefit.

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#33

Don't Let Frustration With Women Make You Feel Bad About Life In General

When girls say "I wish you'd talk about your feelings," they don't mean your hopes, dreams, cares, worries or struggles. What they simply mean is "I wish you'd talk about your feelings about me."

Emotional turmoil is sexual lubricant. Certainty dries her up.

EDIT: Thinking about this some more: "I wish you'd talk about your feelings about me, because then I too get to talk about your feelings about me."
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#34

Don't Let Frustration With Women Make You Feel Bad About Life In General

^ AB

When a woman asks this what is your response?

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Don't Let Frustration With Women Make You Feel Bad About Life In General

Quote: (07-06-2014 08:24 PM)Travesty444 Wrote:  

^ AB

When a woman asks this what is your response?

A disinterested grunt.

It's the best tactic. It's the male version of "That's nice." Over the years, I've tried the "That's for women and fairies" and "I'm really not that complicated" tacts. No matter what you say, or how you deflect it, it's just a boring conversation that goes nowhere. What's best is to just shrug, grunt, and keep on doing what you were doing beforehand. It'll reinforce your masculinity to her - you don't give in to her demands - and frustrate her for not getting her way. Frustration = attraction.

The other one you'll always hear, despite all women claiming women are unique, individual snowflakes that you just have to get to know as a person: "What are you thinking about?"
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Don't Let Frustration With Women Make You Feel Bad About Life In General

Quote: (07-06-2014 07:58 PM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  

They just don't want to hear it, and somehow interpret talking about "feelings" as weakness. I know, I know: they say just the opposite. They say they want us to "share" all these emotional intimacies, but once you do that, you're screwed. In reality they don't like to hear men reveal too much of themselves.

You can try, and under some circumstances, you can succeed. But my experience is that, for the vast majority, they will end up somehow using that against you at some future date. Any hint, any suggestion of non-masculine behavior will work against you.

Lets say you let things like this slip to a LTR during an earlier blue pill era. What should you do differently in order to counteract or offset revealing so much of yourself during a past time? Is there even a way to counter act such utterings in the first place? A way to run "damage control" so to speak?
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Don't Let Frustration With Women Make You Feel Bad About Life In General

Quote: (07-05-2014 03:01 PM)Menace Wrote:  

Is Christian McQueen going to Vegas for a Marriage Hangover Experience? I think not.

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Classic.
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#38

Don't Let Frustration With Women Make You Feel Bad About Life In General

Quote: (07-06-2014 11:16 PM)AfgScarface Wrote:  

Quote: (07-06-2014 07:58 PM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  

They just don't want to hear it, and somehow interpret talking about "feelings" as weakness. I know, I know: they say just the opposite. They say they want us to "share" all these emotional intimacies, but once you do that, you're screwed. In reality they don't like to hear men reveal too much of themselves.

You can try, and under some circumstances, you can succeed. But my experience is that, for the vast majority, they will end up somehow using that against you at some future date. Any hint, any suggestion of non-masculine behavior will work against you.

Lets say you let things like this slip to a LTR during an earlier blue pill era. What should you do differently in order to counteract or offset revealing so much of yourself during a past time? Is there even a way to counter act such utterings in the first place? A way to run "damage control" so to speak?

The best answer I can come up with is to do a version of what Anonymous Bosch said above. You just have to operate under the assumption that revealing your private inner thoughts will somehow be used against you, or thrown in your face, at some future date. Even when I've just casually mentioned the good and bad points of old GFs to some girls, it has gotten me in trouble.

You want to spill your guts? Do it here, or with your dog, or with one of your male buddies.

Chicks just love to read shit into every little thing. (As I would say in Portugues to one garota: the complicacoes and implicacoes of every bloody thing. They always read more into what is said than should be there. And they forgive and forget nothing. Remember that.

Women just can't help it. I wish I had a better answer for you, and you'd think that after all these years of short and long-term relationships, that I'd have a better answer. But the only thing that works is just to remind yourself constantly of these points:

1. Let them spill their guts to you, not the other way around. They love to whine and vent, and you can just nod. Being a good listener has gotten me laid far more often anything I've ever actually said.

2. No kiss and tell about old GFs.

3. Master the art of pretending to reveal deep things by telling stories and anecdotes about people other than yourself. Better yet, just grunting and nodding may be better.

4. As Bosch said above, frustration equals attraction. It is a proven fact that women are more attracted to men whose feelings are UNCLEAR. Remember that.

But in the end, this is a real tough area of game, because it comes down to relationship game. And it's a natural feeling to want to talk and share, at some point anyway. But you've got to be careful.
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Don't Let Frustration With Women Make You Feel Bad About Life In General

This might be the best thread on the forum I have ever read. What a great wealth of knowledge in these two pages. I wish what has already been posted here could be printed out and required reading for every man when they turn 18. And they should read from it once a month going forward.

I only wanted to add two things...

#1) Thank you guys, great, great knowledge here. These words will live on for a long time and will possibly save lives of depressed young men in a system that constantly is evolving to make their lives tougher and less worth fighting for.

#2) I have just reached a point in my life I consider "satisfaction". I don't know how many men ever reach this point ever in their lives. I think fewer and fewer do as we live in such an anti-male society. I wish I could share with you how it feels. But I believe each man must make their journey on their own, and when you get here, you will know it. It has taken me many years, even decades, of struggle, unhappiness, and frustration to get here. And I am so thankful for it.

But to get here, here is what I believe it takes.

Accepting what is, as what is. Worrying, struggling, fighting with what is will only bring more stress. If what is, isn't what you want, then you have to change something to change it.

Learn to live without women. Like Roosh said, men are realizing women, for the most part, will most likely be nothing more than a source of entertainment for men. Sadly this is just the way it is. Most women don't like to work hard to improve themselves, they just want to have and raise babies. Now they can't afford to have 6 babies, they busy their hive minds with senseless drama and worthless parroted information. Women are fun, but they are just the icing on the cake. Focus on the cake. Women may come, women may go, women may never come at all, who cares. That guy getting all the chicks, just wait and see where he is in 10 years. Very likely broke and working like a slave to make sure to pay his child support or fear he goes to jail. Focus on you, not on women. Then the women will come to you and you can filter them out.

Find a source of financial independence. Whether it is living with less and saving more and more. Starting a small business. or some other special talent. If you can work for yourself, you will be free. And if you can work some job for someone else before you do this, you will appreciate this freedom even more.

Like the guys have said here, you must be happy with yourself before you will be able to have a happy relationship. Women don't complete you in this day and age, in fact they take away from you. So you have to be happy and successful enough to take a large hit and still be able to keep going.
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Don't Let Frustration With Women Make You Feel Bad About Life In General

Many members of the forum and the manosphere are still clinging onto a key blue pill belief - the idea that their success with women defines their value as a man. I sense that the pressure to be "alpha" and avoid "beta" behavior is causing anxiety with a lot of members of the community. If a man goes on a hot streak he senses he is a badass "alpha," but then the next month on a cold streak he worries he is a hapless "beta" after all.

Our decadent society pushes the idea into boys and young men's head that their value is determined by getting laid. From a young age we are bombarded with porn, images of college debauchery, and the notion that YOLO and partying are the apotheosis of modern life.

Not long ago young men were that taught that honor, self-control, dignity, accomplishment, education, community, family, friendship, nation, and faith were more important than sex.

I advise focusing on these other aspects of life and putting sex on the back burner. For me at least, it has brought mental stability, greater focus, more confidence, and diminished social anxiety.

D&P, Christian McQueen, Roosh, and Ricky Raw have been focusing on these concepts so nothing I've written here is original.
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Quote: (07-07-2014 04:52 PM)TheRookie Wrote:  

Many members of the forum and the manosphere are still clinging onto a key blue pill belief - the idea that their success with women defines their value as a man. I sense that the pressure to be "alpha" and avoid "beta" behavior is causing anxiety with a lot of members of the community. If a man goes on a hot streak he senses he is a badass "alpha," but then the next month on a cold streak he worries he is a hapless "beta" after all.

Our decadent society pushes the idea into boys and young men's head that their value is determined by getting laid. From a young age we are bombarded with porn, images of college debauchery, and the notion that YOLO and partying are the apotheosis of modern life.

Not long ago young men were that taught that honor, self-control, dignity, accomplishment, education, community, family, friendship, nation, and faith were more important than sex.

I advise focusing on these other aspects of life and putting sex on the back burner. For me at least, it has brought mental stability, greater focus, more confidence, and diminished social anxiety.

D&P, Christian McQueen, Roosh, and Ricky Raw have been focusing on these concepts so nothing I've written here is original.

If I could only offer one piece of advice to a man, it is to master your sexual desire. Cultivate the ability to be able to walk away from women if you don't like their behaviour, even if sex is on the table.

I've never had or observed a relationship where a woman hasn't tried to use her pussy to always get her way, usually by either withholding sex or threatening to.

Take away their most powerful card and show it has no effect on you, and they'll think your a man in an entirely-differently league to what they've experienced before. This is where you cultivate obsessive devotion from them.
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This is exactly why I love you guys and this forum. So much wisdom in these posts.

This site continues to make me a better man and I love seeing other peeps have success in their lives as well.

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"When in chaos, speak truth." - Jordan Peterson
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#43

Don't Let Frustration With Women Make You Feel Bad About Life In General

Thank you for this post, Lizard. I feel like there is a lot of good information in this manosphere, but I can't help but sometimes succumb to those feelings of bitterness and cynicism that is so rampant across this community of sites and messageboards. At times I have let it color my attitude in a negative way and that's not good. I don't want to hear about feminism anymore or any other gender politics.

I can't do anything about the environment or the landscape; just my reaction to it.
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Don't Let Frustration With Women Make You Feel Bad About Life In General

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Quote: (07-06-2014 04:24 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

the more we think that our relationships with them will give happiness or fulfillment, the more we will be disappointed.

I'm going to play "devils advocate" a bit here..

My relationships with women give me great "happiness" and "fulfillment".

I enjoy the sex, intimacy, and companionship. I enjoy the emotions that female companionship gives me.

I don't think its healthy to "switch off" our emotions and try to NOT feel them.

I would say that we just need to be in better control of our emotions. Don't pedestalize them, fall madly in love too early, and give them power over your emotional well being.

Take a more tactful approach.

Connect with women enough so that they can ADD to your happiness. But, don't connect with them so much that if they reject you, your overall level of happiness will be shattered.

Quote: (07-06-2014 04:56 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

playing the game without emotional attachment is just plain fun.

Again, I think no emotion is dull and unhealthy.

Illogical emotion is dangerous.

A healthy, appropriate level of emotion is fun, sexy, and exciting.

Give emotional investments in small increments.

If she doesn't reciprocate, stop investing.

I am careful with my emotional investments but, honestly, I don't mind getting hurt a little bit. I know its part of the game. I can handle it without getting depressed.

Risk and reward are what make the game fun.

Quote: (07-06-2014 08:13 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  

When girls say "I wish you'd talk about your feelings about me, because then I too get to talk about your feelings about me."

I like these moments. I don't avoid them or shy away from them.

Some girls want to connect over "feelings".

If "feelings" are the pathway to her pussy, than, I will use "feelings" to access her mind/vagina.

I don't share my deepest feelings, I just allow her to feel like we are communicating and "vibing".

I don't make myself vulnerable. I just appear like I am.

I want her to open up to me, get comfortable, and trust me.

Then, I can give her a drink and start touching her.

Avoidance of the subject might also work?

I'm just sharing my basic strategy for girls who want to talk about "feelings".

I use it as an opportunity to get more intimate with her.

"There is more than one way to skin a cat"
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#46

Don't Let Frustration With Women Make You Feel Bad About Life In General

This is a very true post.

It's like when your parents finally tell you santa doesn't exist: First, you flip the fuck out. Second, you deny it, you just can't fucking deal with it. Then you finally accept that things are this way and that the go against it would be sheer insanity.

That said, it doesn't make the transition from ignorance to enlightenment any easier. In fact, I feel more alienated from other people with each passing day. It's like, I have to put on a huge facade just to exist. It's pretty depressing when I think about it, so I try to just do everything I can to maximise each day while minimising the major cognitive dissonance I experience with each new interaction with women. One half of my mind wants to do what I've always been told, but the part that's growing wants me to do other things. I am disturbed by the fact that I must always have my guard up around women, If I want to get laid. i can almost feel when conversations when them die now. It's a weird dynamic. and I'd be lying if I said I didn't experience a bit of bitterness toward the female sex. I know that a lot of it is my own fault for not putting myself out there, though, So it balances itself out. I am grateful to at least know the direction I have to go in If I want to alleviate some of the bitterness.

The dissonance is brutal.

I will be checking my PMs weekly, so you can catch me there. I will not be posting.
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#47

Don't Let Frustration With Women Make You Feel Bad About Life In General

Quote: (07-09-2014 05:25 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

Quote: (07-06-2014 08:13 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  

When girls say "I wish you'd talk about your feelings about me, because then I too get to talk about your feelings about me."

I like these moments. I don't avoid them or shy away from them.

Some girls want to connect over "feelings".

If "feelings" are the pathway to her pussy, than, I will use "feelings" to access her mind/vagina.

I don't share my deepest feelings, I just allow her to feel like we are communicating and "vibing".

I don't make myself vulnerable. I just appear like I am.

I want her to open up to me, get comfortable, and trust me.

Then, I can give her a drink and start touching her.

I get what you're saying - it's a game tactic to gain the notch for you.

Quintus and I were more talking about the danger of revealing your true feelings to a girl in a long term relationship. They forget nothing. It's all carefully-filed away to be thrown back in your face when it suits them, and I've seen it happen to enough men, including me when younger, to know AWALT.
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Don't Let Frustration With Women Make You Feel Bad About Life In General

Quote: (07-09-2014 10:55 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  

Quote: (07-09-2014 05:25 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

Quote: (07-06-2014 08:13 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  

When girls say "I wish you'd talk about your feelings about me, because then I too get to talk about your feelings about me."

I like these moments. I don't avoid them or shy away from them.

Some girls want to connect over "feelings".

If "feelings" are the pathway to her pussy, than, I will use "feelings" to access her mind/vagina.

I don't share my deepest feelings, I just allow her to feel like we are communicating and "vibing".

I don't make myself vulnerable. I just appear like I am.

I want her to open up to me, get comfortable, and trust me.

Then, I can give her a drink and start touching her.

I get what you're saying - it's a game tactic to gain the notch for you.

Quintus and I were more talking about the danger of revealing your true feelings to a girl in a long term relationship. They forget nothing. It's all carefully-filed away to be thrown back in your face when it suits them, and I've seen it happen to enough men, including me when younger, to know AWALT.

whats a common example?
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#49

Don't Let Frustration With Women Make You Feel Bad About Life In General

Quote: (07-09-2014 05:25 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

Quote: (07-06-2014 04:24 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

the more we think that our relationships with them will give happiness or fulfillment, the more we will be disappointed.

I'm going to play "devils advocate" a bit here..

My relationships with women give me great "happiness" and "fulfillment".

I enjoy the sex, intimacy, and companionship. I enjoy the emotions that female companionship gives me.

I don't think its healthy to "switch off" our emotions and try to NOT feel them.

I would say that we just need to be in better control of our emotions. Don't pedestalize them, fall madly in love too early, and give them power over your emotional well being.

Take a more tactful approach.

Connect with women enough so that they can ADD to your happiness. But, don't connect with them so much that if they reject you, your overall level of happiness will be shattered.

Quote: (07-06-2014 04:56 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

playing the game without emotional attachment is just plain fun.

Again, I think no emotion is dull and unhealthy.

Illogical emotion is dangerous.

A healthy, appropriate level of emotion is fun, sexy, and exciting.

Give emotional investments in small increments.

If she doesn't reciprocate, stop investing.

I am careful with my emotional investments but, honestly, I don't mind getting hurt a little bit. I know its part of the game. I can handle it without getting depressed.

Risk and reward are what make the game fun.

Quote: (07-06-2014 08:13 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  

When girls say "I wish you'd talk about your feelings about me, because then I too get to talk about your feelings about me."

I like these moments. I don't avoid them or shy away from them.

Some girls want to connect over "feelings".

If "feelings" are the pathway to her pussy, than, I will use "feelings" to access her mind/vagina.

I don't share my deepest feelings, I just allow her to feel like we are communicating and "vibing".

I don't make myself vulnerable. I just appear like I am.

I want her to open up to me, get comfortable, and trust me.

Then, I can give her a drink and start touching her.

Avoidance of the subject might also work?

I'm just sharing my basic strategy for girls who want to talk about "feelings".

I use it as an opportunity to get more intimate with her.

"There is more than one way to skin a cat"

I agree with Giovonny on this. I try to be able to recognize and harness your emotions - not repress them. I like to make emotional attachments with girls but fall short of the idealized, romantic, foolish love, where you make a goddess out of the woman. A more healthy attachment is accepting them for their strengths and their flaws and understanding that they are not soulmates, not perfect, and the relationship can't last forever.

At this point I still want to eventually get married but I'm not looking for a soulmate like the standard American love myth, but rather someone with compatible goals, personality, outlook, cultural background, ethnicity, et cetera. Any girl that doesn't fit in with these criteria I view as a short term romantic fling.
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Quote: (07-07-2014 12:03 AM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  

Quote: (07-06-2014 11:16 PM)AfgScarface Wrote:  

Quote: (07-06-2014 07:58 PM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  

They just don't want to hear it, and somehow interpret talking about "feelings" as weakness. I know, I know: they say just the opposite. They say they want us to "share" all these emotional intimacies, but once you do that, you're screwed. In reality they don't like to hear men reveal too much of themselves.

You can try, and under some circumstances, you can succeed. But my experience is that, for the vast majority, they will end up somehow using that against you at some future date. Any hint, any suggestion of non-masculine behavior will work against you.

Lets say you let things like this slip to a LTR during an earlier blue pill era. What should you do differently in order to counteract or offset revealing so much of yourself during a past time? Is there even a way to counter act such utterings in the first place? A way to run "damage control" so to speak?

The best answer I can come up with is to do a version of what Anonymous Bosch said above. You just have to operate under the assumption that revealing your private inner thoughts will somehow be used against you, or thrown in your face, at some future date. Even when I've just casually mentioned the good and bad points of old GFs to some girls, it has gotten me in trouble.

You want to spill your guts? Do it here, or with your dog, or with one of your male buddies.

Chicks just love to read shit into every little thing. (As I would say in Portugues to one garota: the complicacoes and implicacoes of every bloody thing. They always read more into what is said than should be there. And they forgive and forget nothing. Remember that.

Women just can't help it. I wish I had a better answer for you, and you'd think that after all these years of short and long-term relationships, that I'd have a better answer. But the only thing that works is just to remind yourself constantly of these points:

1. Let them spill their guts to you, not the other way around. They love to whine and vent, and you can just nod. Being a good listener has gotten me laid far more often anything I've ever actually said.

2. No kiss and tell about old GFs.

3. Master the art of pretending to reveal deep things by telling stories and anecdotes about people other than yourself. Better yet, just grunting and nodding may be better.

4. As Bosch said above, frustration equals attraction. It is a proven fact that women are more attracted to men whose feelings are UNCLEAR. Remember that.

But in the end, this is a real tough area of game, because it comes down to relationship game. And it's a natural feeling to want to talk and share, at some point anyway. But you've got to be careful.


Don't these facts about women^ basically prove evolution and disprove creation?

If God had wanted woman to be man's partner as written in Genesis, would not a woman's inclination be to listen to the man's problems and comfort him in some way. The same way a man will do to a woman he cares for? If God wanted a woman to be a companion, a true companion, then He would have created her with no or restrained hypergamy. She wouldn't want to go bang the Motley Crue cover band and abandon her husband and kids 7 years in a marriage.

But no. Hypergamy exists. As stated by QC and Anonymous, you, as a man in a relationship, can't reveal what's troubling you to your woman without her inwardly feeling contempt or losing respect for you. Women do not want calm, but drama. They thrive on it. They only remain attracted when you grunt at them in response to their questions about "feelings" A man has to learn all of these things that are completely non intuitive unless you're the "silverback alpha" who just gets it. A very small majority unless you've studied game.

A woman's nature, therefore, prompts her to be with one man for a bit of time, perhaps a short time and have sex with him if he's at least good enough to procure that. Then, her nature seeks any 'weakness' in the main whatsoever. Any chink, however so slight, in his armor that her mind and psychology can start to analyze and exploit to ultimately realize that she needs to seek other alphas.

Then, the next alpha to give her the tingles, she moves on or at least clandestinely cheats on the man she perceived weakness in because he dared to confide in her about his daily trials and tribulations.

To me, this smacks of the brutal and stark truth of propagation of the species at all costs. This smacks of hypergamy and nature doing its best to get a woman to bang as many alphas as possible and not "be a companion" as the Bible says, to one man for his comfort. These realities heavily support the "Theory" of Evolution and go against the original premises, written in Genesis, that a woman is to be a man's companion.

We can say, and say accurately, that the current culture and technological age we find ourselves in leverages a woman's nature more now than any other time in history and "this is why things are so bad now." This is true. However, women have always possessed these characteristics and you can see this evidenced in the writings and laws dating back to antiquity. Wise men knew laws and society had to be implemented in such a way to keep these hypergamous tendencies in check. Now of course, it is all but unrestrained as we approach the apogee of the age of modern radical feminism.

In a way, we as men can take comfort in these truths. We aren't upset knowing the fact that if we walk unarmed through the dense jungles of East Asia, we may eventually get eaten by a tiger. A tiger's a tiger. A woman's a woman and their nature is what it is. Therefore, we study the woman as a biologist studies a tiger. We understand (its) her ways. We understand why her psychology is the way it is and why evolution has made it so. There's nothing we can do about it but learn game and apply it and not be surprised when the tiger returns to the wild as Richard Parker did in the Life of Pi:






To be fair, the Bible, I do believe, makes some leeway for a woman's hypergamous ways. Adultery happens in the old and new testaments. From what I can remember, there is some verse in Genesis or the early part of the OT that speaks to the general theme of a woman giving a man a hard time because of what happened in Eden when Eve accepted the Serpent's apple.

But if you think of the nature of women from a pure evolutionary model, it makes sense the way they are an act; to always be probing for any weakness and always be gravitating toward the "strongest" alpha they can ultimately find. Broken hearts, broken marriages and broken families of former lovers be damned. Nature will have its way.

- One planet orbiting a star. Billions of stars in the galaxy. Billions of galaxies in the universe. Approach.

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