[jimukr104]

How many bangs? jk

[20Nation]

in Kiev it seems like people don't want to go to the main square (maiden) very much, but everywhere else they aren't afraid at all. I think only a little less people go out than normal (according to what girls have told me), but it has nothing to do with safety and more to do with the fact that the value of the money in ukraine has gone down so much.

[samsamsam]

(07-18-2014 03:06 PM)20Nation Wrote:  

in Kiev it seems like people don't want to go to the main square (maiden) very much, but everywhere else they aren't afraid at all. I think only a little less people go out than normal (according to what girls have told me), but it has nothing to do with safety and more to do with the fact that the value of the money in ukraine has gone down so much.

Made me curious about the exchange rate. If, as in impossible, someone had a crystal ball and could see when true stability would return to Ukraine, some money could be made just betting on the currency.

[Virtus]

I have a feeling, someone did have a crystal ball and bet billions on this de stabilisation. Someibe who created this situation

[BigDave]

Don't fall into the fallacy of intention, that every major event must have been orchestrated by those who had something to gain. Major events can and do happen by chance and accident.

[rudebwoy]

Major events don't happen by chance.

[20Nation]

(07-18-2014 03:19 PM)samsamsam Wrote:  

(07-18-2014 03:06 PM)20Nation Wrote:  

in Kiev it seems like people don't want to go to the main square (maiden) very much, but everywhere else they aren't afraid at all. I think only a little less people go out than normal (according to what girls have told me), but it has nothing to do with safety and more to do with the fact that the value of the money in ukraine has gone down so much.

Made me curious about the exchange rate. If, as in impossible, someone had a crystal ball and could see when true stability would return to Ukraine, some money could be made just betting on the currency.

I was actually thinking about that, if Ukrainian currency returns to what it was before, you could almost double your investments.

[rishboy77]

(07-18-2014 12:58 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

There's not a whole lot to update... my experience is very similar to last year. The same spots are still here and they have similar crowds. It's not easy or harder. It's sort of like I didn't leave.

What about getting a ONS ? Last time you mentioned the difficulty and it usually took 2-3 dates.
What about the "girlfriend" chick that you wrote about... any contact with her ?

[Roosh]

I'm thinking of doing an Odessa meetup around the weekend of August 8-10.

[travolta]

(07-22-2014 02:05 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

I'm thinking of doing an Odessa meetup around the weekend of August 8-10.

Should try to have another one this weekend if possible. I'll be making a weekend trip from Kiev this weekend. Will be back in the states for the month of August before going back to EE

[Courage Reborn]

I'm also thinking about scouting Odessa or Lviv next week.

Are there many RVFers in Odessa?

[Poonkisstador]

So Crimea is still off-limits? Or is it ok if you have a Russian visa. Was thinking on visiting mid Sept. Any decent beaches or beach towns near Odessa? I've heard of girls sunbathing in droves by the river bank - or maybe this is in Kiev..

[worldwidetraveler]

(07-25-2014 04:20 AM)Poonkisstador Wrote:  

So Crimea is still off-limits? Or is it ok if you have a Russian visa. Was thinking on visiting mid Sept. Any decent beaches or beach towns near Odessa? I've heard of girls sunbathing in droves by the river bank - or maybe this is in Kiev..

Ilyichevsk has some nice beaches back in the day. We are talking years ago and I know they were commercializing the beaches. It's also about a 15 - 20 minute bus ride from Odessa.

It's a pretty small town. If I remember correctly, it had a dance club on the beach with bowling attached.

[calwinston]

(07-25-2014 04:20 AM)Poonkisstador Wrote:  

So Crimea is still off-limits? Or is it ok if you have a Russian visa. Was thinking on visiting mid Sept. Any decent beaches or beach towns near Odessa? I've heard of girls sunbathing in droves by the river bank - or maybe this is in Kiev..

To further extend on that question has anyone hit up the beach clubs in Kiev? How are they?

Seem like they would great spots to meet girls during the day.

City Beach Club
Kiev Beach Club
Hydropark
and many others

[PimpCByotch]

Kiev is harder than the last time I was here... I used to be asked what I was doing there, now they just ignore me, however, this was just in the nightclubs. It's still the same with the waitresses, etc.., and it's not so bad, for these are the girls that you would want to have a potential relationship with anyway.

Prices are great. Just don't get drunk and end up in a stripclub on a Monday night because you just arrived. You could end up paying for $25 a drink and only for the fact that she has huge boobs; I wouldn't have done it sober ahaha

Ladies night at shooters was okay, well, frustrating.. I've never been stared at more in my life, however, when I would make the approach, they would just ignore me and walk away. Twice the guys around that saw this happening were like WTF.

I'm in an unknown location now in the South.. just arrived. Walked around a bit and I'm pleasantly impressed with the talent; it's going to be a good summer

[Akula]

Ok just did a couple hours of day gaming around my apartment and managed to punch out 4 approaches right in a row garnering 3 numbers, all 7s and good leads. Girls continue to strike me as very approachable here and happy to speak English. However, some don't speak English very well but my Russian's ok so I just switch to that. The weather here is pretty hot right now but I think it's good in that the girls are all out in short skirts and shorts so lots to look at. Liking this day game thing more and more as I progress.

One girl said it's better to Skype her hmnnn wondering what that means havnen't had that one before. I guess given the currency devaluation she's gotta save some $$$s?

Think I'm going to focus solely on day game now except maybe a visit to the highly recommended Dali Park on the weekend. Amazing how just a few approaches and some online action can quickly fill up your dance card here - I'm basically tied up every night of the week now.....

Another thing: there are these little coffee shops and stands all over Kiev now and at least half the time they are manned by sexy 20-something girls. Sure seems like you can work an angle there especially given you see these ladies every single day if you're just grabbing a coffee. I've had some interesting chats with a couple of my 'go to coffee' girls here and think it might be something to work if you're here for a few weeks.....

[Courage Reborn]

(07-28-2014 10:35 AM)Akula Wrote:  

there are these little coffee shops and stands all over Kiev now and at least half the time they are manned by sexy 20-something girls. Sure seems like you can work an angle there especially given you see these ladies every single day if you're just grabbing a coffee. I've had some interesting chats with a couple of my 'go to coffee' girls here and think it might be something to work if you're here for a few weeks.....

Truth. I remember taking the girls I chatted up on the street approach to those little coffee stands. Sure enough, the girls working inside were often hotter than the girl I walked over with. It was like a cruel & unusual tease every time.

Props on making it happen during the day

[corners]

Ukraine has by far some of the hottest, prettiest girls. I was simply blown away when I visited Kiev and Donetsk back in the days when Donetsk was safe.

Total opposite from Poland in terms of beauty and feminity.

Also the girls I met from Zaporizhia (2nd tier city: population close to 1 million) and
Mykolaiv (2nd tier city, population around half a million inhabitants)
were so thin, feminine, sensual and straight down gorgeous,
that I want to go in the second half of august and visit these cities as well

[Greek kamaki]

(07-29-2014 05:11 AM)corners Wrote:  

Ukraine has by far some of the hottest, prettiest girls. I was simply blown away when I visited Kiev and Donetsk back in the days when Donetsk was safe.

Total opposite from Poland in terms of beauty and feminity.

Also the girls I met from Zaporizhia (2nd tier city: population close to 1 million) and
Mykolaiv (2nd tier city, population around half a million inhabitants)
were so thin, feminine, sensual and straight down gorgeous,
that I want to go in the second half of august and visit these cities as well

Donetsk girls are nothing to write about.Polish girls in Krakow etc look a lot better.Only Kiev has lots of beautiful girls but then again you are disappointed when you first arrive especially after a country like Poland or CR.The average is nothing special.
In fact Ukraine effects start after some days of residing in the country and getting used to local appearance.They rely too much on high heels make up less natural beauties.If you see these girls in bikinis next to Czech,polish or Russian girls they do not catch a pile of cards as we say in Greece.
In Ukraine it is more of an illusion than reality.

[Lucky Luke]

Sorry but absolutely disagree there. Kiev is in my opinion the best city in the world in terms of quality and most of my friends agree. I remember when lots of us journalists were covering the Euro in 2012, moving from Poland to Ukraine was like going from a great place to paradise. Very beautiful girls in Poland, don't get me wrong, but Kiev is completely in another level.

[travolta]

(07-29-2014 05:46 AM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  

(07-29-2014 05:11 AM)corners Wrote:  

Ukraine has by far some of the hottest, prettiest girls. I was simply blown away when I visited Kiev and Donetsk back in the days when Donetsk was safe.

Total opposite from Poland in terms of beauty and feminity.

Also the girls I met from Zaporizhia (2nd tier city: population close to 1 million) and
Mykolaiv (2nd tier city, population around half a million inhabitants)
were so thin, feminine, sensual and straight down gorgeous,
that I want to go in the second half of august and visit these cities as well

They rely too much on high heels make up less natural beauties.
In Ukraine it is more of an illusion than reality.

I've been in Kiev for about a month, and I don't see many girls wearing high heels in the day time. Most girls wear flats. It's only at night when you see girls in heels. What I've noticed about Ukraine is that 80% of the girls are average looking. But the girls who are good looking are quite good looking. I'm not complaining whatsoever, but this is what I've noticed. Quality in Odessa is a bit higher than Kiev, but quantity is way lower.

For guys who like seeing girls wearing high heels during the day you need to go to Japan or Korea. Bucharest has more girls wearing heels than Ukraine, but even there it wasn't the norm. Maybe Europe is changing, I don't know.

[TheMusketeer]

Quote:

Donetsk girls are nothing to write about.Polish girls in Krakow etc look a lot better.Only Kiev has lots of beautiful girls but then again you are disappointed when you first arrive especially after a country like Poland or CR.The average is nothing special

Wot?

Quote:

I've been in Kiev for about a month, and I don't see many girls wearing high heels in the day time. Most girls wear flats. It's only at night when you see girls in heels.

Yes this is because there is a lot of walking to do in Kiev, and negotiating the subway. In more condensed cities they always trot around in heels

[travolta]

(07-29-2014 08:51 AM)TheMusketeer Wrote:  

Quote:

Donetsk girls are nothing to write about.Polish girls in Krakow etc look a lot better.Only Kiev has lots of beautiful girls but then again you are disappointed when you first arrive especially after a country like Poland or CR.The average is nothing special

Wot?

Quote:

I've been in Kiev for about a month, and I don't see many girls wearing high heels in the day time. Most girls wear flats. It's only at night when you see girls in heels.

Yes this is because there is a lot of walking to do in Kiev, and negotiating the subway. In more condensed cities they always trot around in heels

In Odessa I noticed the same thing. Girls wear flats in the day time.

[Exiled Princeling]

(07-29-2014 05:46 AM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  

(07-29-2014 05:11 AM)corners Wrote:  

Ukraine has by far some of the hottest, prettiest girls. I was simply blown away when I visited Kiev and Donetsk back in the days when Donetsk was safe.

Total opposite from Poland in terms of beauty and feminity.

Also the girls I met from Zaporizhia (2nd tier city: population close to 1 million) and
Mykolaiv (2nd tier city, population around half a million inhabitants)
were so thin, feminine, sensual and straight down gorgeous,
that I want to go in the second half of august and visit these cities as well

Donetsk girls are nothing to write about.Polish girls in Krakow etc look a lot better.Only Kiev has lots of beautiful girls but then again you are disappointed when you first arrive especially after a country like Poland or CR.The average is nothing special.
In fact Ukraine effects start after some days of residing in the country and getting used to local appearance.They rely too much on high heels make up less natural beauties.If you see these girls in bikinis next to Czech,polish or Russian girls they do not catch a pile of cards as we say in Greece.
In Ukraine it is more of an illusion than reality.

I hear so much conflicting info on Ukraine but I've never heard it placed beneath Poland in the looks department. Are we just talking about body here? Please extrapolate.

[diego69]

Looks depends on your taste for sure.
As for me I was all over the world and find my taste to be Slavic- EE girls, spent lot of time in countries like poland, czech, hungary, romania and for sure ukraine and specifically kiev beats all by far, only country than can compete is russia but there it is harder in every aspect, costs, harder to get laid, logistics etc.