[peterfoo22]

(05-20-2014 06:25 PM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  

(05-16-2014 02:49 AM)peterfoo22 Wrote:  

Yeah for whatever reason ever since I have grown long hair girls seem to love it.

I have no clue why, maybe its a rebel thing, definitely stands out though, I get lot more attention from it and hosts, promoters, etc remember my name more often.

P

If I do grow my hair, do I need to totally go with the hippy look? Because I like the classy but laid back style, with jeans and dress shirts with rolled up sleeves and 3 buttons opened. Sometimes a leather jacket or a blazer on. Would a long hair style go with this?

I usually go with the Asian gangster look like the Japanese Samurai look, not too much longer than shoulder length. I like to tie mine either in tight bun or just small pony tail.

Plus if a girl starts to grab it and play with it then you know you are in, and have fun with it.

Peter

[Dalaran1991]

(05-20-2014 10:58 PM)Screwston Wrote:  

Yall mofos got self esteem issues if you're putting blame on height.

It's ok to have self esteem issues. We are not made of stones. It's not ok to let those issues stop you from achieving your goals. I have no intention to do so.

Even Batman has deep rooted insecurity, which drives him to become Batman

[cmrocks]

(05-13-2014 09:34 AM)seaAltair Wrote:  

I'm only 5 ft 8 and actually do best with women who are several inches above average height (5 ft 4). ime taller women are more forgiving of short guys wheres many short bitches want a tall boy to compensate for being a shrimp. Get over the mental barrier, and test this for yourself by hitting up women aren't much shorter than you. I read a study once that concluded every inch beyond 5 ft 4 decreases a woman's attractiveness to us subconsciously.

This has been my experience as well. I'm 5'9 on a good day and I'd say that most of the girls I've hooked up with have been over 5'7. My fiancee is is half an inch taller than me. My ex-girlfriend was 5'11.

I don't even have it bad but I still really wish that I was taller. In the colder months, I usually wear boots when I go out. Even so, they only have a 1" heel so it's not a huge difference. I don't think I'd want shoes that lift me up any more than 2". It would be weird to take them off and drop way down in height haha.

[Chewbacon]

(05-21-2014 04:32 AM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  

(05-20-2014 10:58 PM)Screwston Wrote:  

Yall mofos got self esteem issues if you're putting blame on height.

It's ok to have self esteem issues. We are not made of stones. It's not ok to let those issues stop you from achieving your goals. I have no intention to do so.

Even Batman has deep rooted insecurity, which drives him to become Batman

It's also not a self-esteem issue if you recognize factors that objectively make gaming easier vs. harder. Nobody said height was insurmountable, or that you can't be good with women if you are short.

[GenghisKhan]

(05-20-2014 05:16 PM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  

After taking a good look around at the people I know and observed, I think most of you are actually right. It's not being Asian, it's about height.

All the guys who are good with girls that I know, they are above 5"8. Including the Asians. I actually know 3 Asian-White couples. And the Asians guys are always either extremely cool ( 2 are dancers, 1 is a fencing champion) or very successful (1 is an artist and the other is a business man) But they are all 6". Now of course I know plenty of 6" losers, but that's just to say height really does help or hurt.

I think the fact that white guys have it easy mainly because they are genetically taller and they are associated with status and cool. When Asians or Blacks of the same height achieve the same degree of coolness or status, in the rare case I know they are even more successful.

Well this is not exactly good news cause neither height nor race is a changeable factor... I'm a martial artist and a dancer, so surgery is out of the question. Guess I'll really need to get more jacked and boost up my style, while working to lose that accent.

Tough job. But hard soil breeds hard men

My Southeast Asian friend who is like 5'6" pulls 7s, 8s, and occasionally 9s. He dresses up to his height. There are ways to do this, like wearing clothes that fit, etc. You can google it.

Also, he has a very cool DJ job and parties with models all the time. That's probably why..

[Octane]

Accept yourself for who you are : short or tall / asian or non asian. Truly accept yourself. The good news is you can work on your accent, your style, your body, and how you carry yourself. These are all things that are obtainable. Be the best self you possibly can and I'm confident you will get the results you desire with all women including white and every color of the rainbow.

Let me break it down for you guys:
1) Accept yourself, your entire self
2) Be the best you can
3) Persistence and perseverance
4) Don't ever give up

5) Get money

[seaAltair]

ran into this study and immediately thought of this thread



Apparently Latinas like Asian foos as much as china dolls do, so I'd make it a point to approach them. Latinas and Black girls have by far been the coolest women once I've approached em.

What's surprising are the response rates from Indians and Middle Easterners. This Asian I know always has Indians crushing on him, so I thought they'd like Asians more but guess not.

Middle Easterners are unusually high on Asian men compared to women of other races. Can't put my figure around it, but I can confirm it from first hand experience. Despite their reputation for shitty personalities Persians have been unusually kind towards me.

Check out the rest of the study here:
http://blog.okcupid.com/index.html/your-r...-you-back/

[Chewbacon]

(05-24-2014 08:14 PM)seaAltair Wrote:  

ran into this study and immediately thought of this thread



Apparently Latinas like Asian foos as much as china dolls do, so I'd make it a point to approach them. Latinas and Black girls have by far been the coolest women once I've approached em.

What's surprising are the response rates from Indians and Middle Easterners. This Asian I know always has Indians crushing on him, so I thought they'd like Asians more but guess not.

Middle Easterners are unusually high on Asian men compared to women of other races. Can't put my figure around it, but I can confirm it from first hand experience. Despite their reputation for shitty personalities Persians have been unusually kind towards me.

Check out the rest of the study here:
http://blog.okcupid.com/index.html/your-r...-you-back/

My takeaways from this study:
- black women are really, really hard on black men.
- asian women are not that great towards asian men, but not terrible
- asian women seem to really like white men
- black women REALLY like white men

Kind of depressing. Not because I don't think I could slay these girls, but because it's depressing to be reminded of the cuntish nature of women when it comes to race. I'm generally happy I returned stateside, but one thing i enjoyed about Asia is that I never had to think about asian girls preferring white men over their own kind. Sure, there was a minority that had the whole white god factor thing, but it was confined to social circles I rarely trafficked in. In America, I have to be reminded of white superiority more often than I like. Nothing insurmountable, but generally unpleasant, especially if you only like asian women.

[seaAltair]

(05-24-2014 08:31 PM)SHANbangs Wrote:  

(05-24-2014 08:14 PM)seaAltair Wrote:  

ran into this study and immediately thought of this thread



Apparently Latinas like Asian foos as much as china dolls do, so I'd make it a point to approach them. Latinas and Black girls have by far been the coolest women once I've approached em.

What's surprising are the response rates from Indians and Middle Easterners. This Asian I know always has Indians crushing on him, so I thought they'd like Asians more but guess not.

Middle Easterners are unusually high on Asian men compared to women of other races. Can't put my figure around it, but I can confirm it from first hand experience. Despite their reputation for shitty personalities Persians have been unusually kind towards me.

Check out the rest of the study here:
http://blog.okcupid.com/index.html/your-r...-you-back/

My takeaways from this study:
- black women are really, really hard on black men.
- asian women are not that great towards asian men, but not terrible
- asian women seem to really like white men
- black women REALLY like white men

Kind of depressing. Not because I don't think I could slay these girls, but because it's depressing to be reminded of the cuntish nature of women when it comes to race. I'm generally happy I returned stateside, but one thing i enjoyed about Asia is that I never had to think about asian girls preferring white men over their own kind. Sure, there was a minority that had the whole white god factor thing, but it was confined to social circles I rarely trafficked in. In America, I have to be reminded of white superiority more often than I like. Nothing insurmountable, but generally unpleasant, especially if you only like asian women.

you're on RVF and only go for one race of woman

My gut tells me the people using dating sites are more likely to be searching outside of their race, so that could make the results differernt from reality.

[Chewbacon]

(05-24-2014 08:56 PM)seaAltair Wrote:  

(05-24-2014 08:31 PM)SHANbangs Wrote:  

(05-24-2014 08:14 PM)seaAltair Wrote:  

ran into this study and immediately thought of this thread



Apparently Latinas like Asian foos as much as china dolls do, so I'd make it a point to approach them. Latinas and Black girls have by far been the coolest women once I've approached em.

What's surprising are the response rates from Indians and Middle Easterners. This Asian I know always has Indians crushing on him, so I thought they'd like Asians more but guess not.

Middle Easterners are unusually high on Asian men compared to women of other races. Can't put my figure around it, but I can confirm it from first hand experience. Despite their reputation for shitty personalities Persians have been unusually kind towards me.

Check out the rest of the study here:
http://blog.okcupid.com/index.html/your-r...-you-back/

My takeaways from this study:
- black women are really, really hard on black men.
- asian women are not that great towards asian men, but not terrible
- asian women seem to really like white men
- black women REALLY like white men

Kind of depressing. Not because I don't think I could slay these girls, but because it's depressing to be reminded of the cuntish nature of women when it comes to race. I'm generally happy I returned stateside, but one thing i enjoyed about Asia is that I never had to think about asian girls preferring white men over their own kind. Sure, there was a minority that had the whole white god factor thing, but it was confined to social circles I rarely trafficked in. In America, I have to be reminded of white superiority more often than I like. Nothing insurmountable, but generally unpleasant, especially if you only like asian women.

you're on RVF and only go for one race of woman

My gut tells me the people using dating sites are more likely to be searching outside of their race, so that could make the results differernt from reality.

I go for 80 percent asians, then 20 percent miscellaneous. I like what I like.

Rooshvforum still offers a ton of good info for travellers to Asia, and I've been there quite a few times since joining.

it's not that I don't like white women - it's just that I find that on the 5-7 range, an asian is far more appealing than a white girl. The difference between an asian 8 and an asian 7 is incremental, but the perceived difference (for me anyways) between a white 8 and a white 7 is monumental. This basically means on a normal distribution curve there are far more asians that I find attractive than white women (5-10 vs. 7-10, and by dint of 5-7 being more common than 8-10). Thus I usually end up going to asian-only venues and sticking to asian social circles. Seems like an inefficient use of time to go to a predominantly white venue where I will find far fewer girls I would like to approach. Also, I am attracted to younger looking faces. White women end up losing their youthful luster quite quickly (mid-20s), whereas asian women seem to preserve it until at least 30.

[Dalaran1991]

Bumping this thread because it seems like it might have some members in another thread in the newbie forum.

Hot damn its been a long time! I cant even remembered how sucky it felt back then when I first opened this thread.

If at the beginning the goal was to get white girls, then mission accomplished. I've had my fair share of white girls, some of which make other white French guys oggle. I've had white girls asking their friends to set them up with me, and I ignored them. Whats this shit with 6"5' white girls wanting to date a short Asian guy anyway?

Now I have a white brunette girlfriend. Solid 8, and a virgin when I found her. Very pleasant and loving, does not cook but clean. Kitchen is way too important to leave to women anyway.

Not to say that things are easy. Going out gaming is still hard, but it doesn't even register on my mind anymore. I just go from one girl to the next, enjoying myself and not taking them too seriously. The best thing yet? I stopped getting annoyed by girl's game like flaking, texting, etc. I just thought "Ha, cute" and next.

The game now has moved on "how to enjoy myself in the company of attractive white girls".

Wont sugar coat it though. Gaming is hard, and for me is 10 times harder. But if you think being Asian sucks, here's some thoughts:

Being a white girl sucks, for the most part. Being an empty vessel, hollow and clueless, being pampered from the womb to live a life of luxury in an unnatural society, that she probably doesn't want. Worst part? She isn't even aware of it.
There is no essence in being a white girl, or a girl for that matter. Their life revolves around how to not be bored. Once you understand that, its easier to game them and to not take them seriously.

Whatever happens to me, I know that I'm way better than most girls I ever sleep with. And that is enough to go on.

The other part is acceptance. If I'm out with my good buddies, who are all players and solid-looking, they would still command the most attention and get the prettiest girls. But I dont need that. I need exactly the distraction they provide so I can pull that cute-looking chick over there into some private conversation.

Having solid friends helps. My ex-boss is a Jathan Statham look alike ladykiller, and we often go out drinking talking game. I can see clearly I have better game than he does, but it doesn't matter because he does not need good game.

In the end, none of this "being Asian is hard" matters, it did not stop me for getting what I want. Most of the time I see loser Asian guys, but every now and then I see an Asian with a solid white chick and I give him a mental high five.

Thanks to everyone who contributed to this thread, help me out a great deal in the beginning. Hope it helps other Asian bros. Be proud of yourself (for being Asian I guess?) and your accomplishments, do what you can and fuck the rest. Always remember, the majority of the girls you fuck will never be able to achieve those.

[d_hzy]

(11-15-2016 07:43 AM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  

In the end, none of this "being Asian is hard" matters, it did not stop me for getting what I want. Most of the time I see loser Asian guys, but every now and then I see an Asian with a solid white chick and I give him a mental high five.

This thread is gold. I totally agree that the "mental" change is what a lot of asian players need.

When you go out and get rejected, never think that a (white) girl rejects you because you are asian. It's her loss anyways. Instead, look around, there are so many more girls waiting to be approached. When one doesn't go well, NEXT!

Also, if any of the fellow asian players ever need a confidence boost, check out kpop parties in your city. You walk in and you will realize how other asians guys are of no competition to you and how silly some of the white girls are.

This is how I usually think about of being asian. It is so easy to stand out as an asian, simply because the majority of asian guys suck in terms of dating/game, that it is actually an advantage. A lot of the white girls I've met have never had an interesting conversation with a cool asian guy, so you just gotta hit them hard the first time, show them you/asians are the real deal.

[jcrew247]

Hey Dala, do you speak French?
I've been thinking about learning French since it seems
like French girls are more interested in Asian guys.

The French people seem someone snobby to English people
and speaking English, from what I've heard.
Do you live in Paris or some other city?
Thanks for the help.

[Dalaran1991]

I do, and my last girl friend actually is a French Language teacher.

It is a beautiful language, but if you are thinking of learning it just for the girls, forget it.
Go read the "are French women overrated" for more of my input.
More generally, anything you do for the sole purpose of getting women is either inefficient or a waste of time. You will not get the desired outcome, nor will women appreciate it. However, do it for yourself because you want to, and suddenly you become a passionate, interesting man that has more to offer.

[jcrew247]

Thanks Dala.
Oviously, it would be intersting to learn a new language.
But its also important to learn how to flirt with a few sentances in any language and I think most women would appreciate the effort.
Maybe most women do want to practice their English and are willing to date an English only speaker.
But then there are also many women who are more nativist.
Have you dated other non-French European women?
How about Polish women or Swedish women?

[StrikeBack]

I dated a French au pair, she was very sweet. Had some good times with French girls from New Caledonia too. I like them, they're very feminine.

You have the wrong mindset there, brother. You shouldn't think so and so girls are more interested in Asian guys. You should be open to girls who are interested in *you*. You are not "Asian guy". If "Asian guy" is the first thing a girl notices about you, you're disposable, you're average, mediocre, loser even. Instead, she should immediately see something about you that is cool and attractive: your fashion sense, your muscles or athleticism, your strutting around like a boss, your commanding presence, your dance moves etc. Else I guarantee you will run into an ironic scenario where a girl is in fact open to dating Asian guys, but she has zero interest in dating *you*.

Nearly every white girl I've ever dated has never been with an Asian guy before. Quite a few have zero interest in Asian guys, including my wife. My wife used to think that it'd never work due to cultural differences, don't like how boy-ish or skinny they look etc. when Asian guys hit on her at church, at uni and at work, or on the streets. Yet she didn't even think of me as "some Asian guy" when we first met, in fact she thought I was Spanish for some weird reason at first glance, but she was mostly thinking about how well I danced and how other girls seemed to be very interested in me. After she met me, she started to adopt Vietnamese culture as her own, to the point where she gets Viet girls saying she's more Viet than them! A lot of people mistakenly think that she was always into Asian cultures, but she's only that way because she loves me.

If you want quality, you need to stop thinking about cheat codes, and be an authentic high value man.

[EndsExpect]

(03-13-2019 08:29 AM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  

I do, and my last girl friend actually is a French Language teacher.
It is a beautiful language, but if you are thinking of learning it just for the girls, forget it.

I just want to say it's heart warming to hear that you are scoring the women you want! I wish you the very best.

(03-13-2019 11:11 PM)StrikeBack Wrote:  

You have the wrong mindset there, brother. You shouldn't think so and so girls are more interested in Asian guys. You should be open to girls who are interested in *you*. You are not "Asian guy". If "Asian guy" is the first thing a girl notices about you, you're disposable, you're average, mediocre, loser even. Instead, she should immediately see something about you that is cool and attractive: your fashion sense, your muscles or athleticism, your strutting around like a boss, your commanding presence, your dance moves etc. Else I guarantee you will run into an ironic scenario where a girl is in fact open to dating Asian guys, but she has zero interest in dating *you*.
Nearly every white girl I've ever dated has never been with an Asian guy before. Quite a few have zero interest in Asian guys, including my wife. My wife used to think that it'd never work due to cultural differences, don't like how boy-ish or skinny they look etc. when Asian guys hit on her at church, at uni and at work, or on the streets. Yet she didn't even think of me as "some Asian guy" when we first met, in fact she thought I was Spanish for some weird reason at first glance, but she was mostly thinking about how well I danced and how other girls seemed to be very interested in me. After she met me, she started to adopt Vietnamese culture as her own, to the point where she gets Viet girls saying she's more Viet than them! A lot of people mistakenly think that she was always into Asian cultures, but she's only that way because she loves me.
If you want quality, you need to stop thinking about cheat codes, and be an authentic high value man.

I just felt that hitting the Like button on this post is not enough. Black guys say this stuff all the time, because they date outside their ethnicity more than any other group, but I feel it's important that all men understand this.

White guys in particular need to soak in this piece of wisdom.

My wife is Vietnamese... and from a very wealthy and well connected family. I lucked into her while she was studying in the US. She had no interest in dating American guys at the time, but after several months of work I convinced her to give me a shot.

[a beer is enough]

Read through the first page of the thread and once again the double standard strikes, why is it a crime to be into white women compared to other races? I feel like if a white guy came into talk about his thing for Asian or brown women, we'd be happy, but turn the tables and what happens?

It isn't white people doing it either, minorities have some serious issues with other minorities going for white women. Crabs in a bucket perhaps? The idea that if you can't get the white pussy no one should? Afraid of more competition in the mix? I mean relax dude, plenty to go around.

I'll give my take and experience having had a good bit of Asian friends and being Indian myself, the only race that has it worse than Asian guys do. Here are the following kinds of attractive (this is the keyword since no one wants uglies) women who are going to be so fucking racist towards you to the point where even if you are a top notch guy, they're going to disqualify you.

1. Any woman desperately trying to climb the social ladder at which she is not at the top, especially if she is the same race as you.

You probably have a better chance of getting a white and good looking sorority girl who is popular assuming you are good looking and have game yourself than you do of getting an Asian guy trying to fit into an all-white sorority. Most of the racism you encounter, you're going to encounter from Asian and ethnic women who are desperately trying to fit into white culture, they will be much more racist to you than white women are. Anytime you see any kind of ethnic girl who is the token ethnic girl in her white friend group or seems like she is trying to fit in with whites, guaranteed you are getting disqualified right off the bat.

2. Women who come from a culture where popularity, image, sex appeal, and social status is everything.

So this means women from places like Brazil, Colombia, the Mediterranean, and the Middle East where social image and popularity mean everything. You will be passed for some trollish looking creep with blond hair because of how much people in those parts of the world worship that sort of thing. Yeah I know it sucks if you have a thing for that kind of a look but it is what it is, no point trying to associate with women or people from narcissistic cultures.

Outside of that, you're good.

I've seen plenty of well put-together Asian and brown dudes pulling hot white girls, that shit can so be done. This day and age, it is almost a thing for the sexy blonde American girl types to go for ethnic guys who are well-put together. Work on yourself, live an awesome life, be true to yourself, listen to the wisdom on these boards around game, and pretty soon you'll forget about the insecurity you had.

[whiteknightrises]

If you are living in the West:

"Contrast game"

That is, be/do things girls don't expect from Asians.

This includes things like...

- Tats
- Bad boy style (ripped jeans, piercings, accessories, leather jackets, etc.)
- No glasses
- "Aggressive game" - I am super direct (very touchy, etc.) but that's also just my personality

Edit: it's almost comical how girls will auto-complement me because I wear ripped jeans ("I like your jeans" "You're so stylish"). That's just how Western (or at least American) society programs their brains

Similar with tats. "When did you get it" "What does it mean?"

You get the point. Don't be the stereotype

It's almost like overcompensating to be honest but it is what it is. Adapt or get left behind

Before you think life's unfair blah blah, as an example, black dudes I know can't come off that "aggressive" and need to come off more "beta" or at least put together or they legit scare off most girls

[croquet]

^

Lift. One would be amazed at just far this would go.