[Pacman]

I was not sure if G was humourous in his posts...I was just wondering.... but now I think the guy is exagerating some descriptions to the point it s getting very caricatural(french word btw) just to make himself laugh...

When it comes to wearing suits (not even customs), I have to admit that it gives a significative extra edge in some specific contexts like bars in Riga for example

[Kona]

I love The G Manifesto and have read it for years.

Maybe six years ago I was in Hong Kong and broke down and bought some suits. I was looking on the internet for info and found it. I was in the military at the time, and thought it was funny that Myspace was censored but The G Manifesto wasn't.

I always send out this one when people ask me about restaurants in Hawaii: http://www.thegmanifesto.com/2007/08/gue...l#comments.

Theres only one qualm I've ever had. My 16 year old nephew was trying to get a job, and I was telling him that there were tons of ways to make money without having a "job" in the traditional sense. I showed him a bunch of stuff on the internet including this: http://www.thegmanifesto.com/2008/02/why...ml#content. So the little punk has a giant pile of catalytics buried all over the place, but has absolutely NO idea why the one on my jet ski pulling truck was gone. Then, after a little choke, he's able to produce an exact match he so happened to pull off a similar vehicle.

There's lots of great stuff on there. I don't know what the average blog lifespan is, but I hope his keeps going for a long time.

Aloha!

[thegmanifesto]

Kona,

Ha. Hilarious story. I apologize for being a bad influence on your nephew.

"I don't know what the average blog lifespan is, but I hope his keeps going for a long time."

No worries my brother.

I have enough material already to write for another 5 years minimum right now.

Hell, in the last two months I have had the sickest experiences, that the best is yet to come.

I just need to get time to write it all down!

Giovanny,

Epic post. Giovanny knows the Score. California player to the bone.

Moma,

"G, I believe you box, right? I want to pick it up but I am not looking forward to getting punched in the face. Can you tell me if you have ever had your nose broken and if so, how many times?"

Nose broken once (I have a pretty rubbery nose and now always wear Cleto Reyes headgear that protects my beautiful mug.)

But I have had my bell rung multiple times and dropped from vicious body shots (the worst).

I have had worse experiences in streets fights and surfing.

Cracked over the head with a baseball bat in a high school group mele.

Almost drown multiple times surfing. And once I was "cheese grated" over the rocks on this trippy surf spot with a weird entry point.

[kimleebj]

(02-08-2011 02:40 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

TheGManifesto ... captures the persona and attitude of being a ... modern day "man of leisure" ... a criminal, a ladysman, a tough guy, a businessman, an athlete, ... rebel.

Good food, beautiful women, nice clothes, wine, music, sport, enjoying life, not being a corporate slave. Isn't that what we all want?

Roosh left the corporate rat race and blazed his own trail doing something that he enjoys. Something that brings freedom, independent wealth, and women.

Good post. Your excellent summary reveals critical contradictions. We all want money, freedom, health, and good relationships. If you are lucky and talented then you can have them all. But most of us have limitations. That's where character and values define the man and determine the outcome.

A rebel prioritizes freedom. He defies social convention and sacrifices creature comforts. Roosh is willing to live with a parent and ride a bicycle to indulge his travel. That's why I'm disturbed when you write:

Good food, beautiful women, nice clothes, wine, music, sport, enjoying life, not being a corporate slave.

People become corporate slaves because they want your list of material things.

"man of leisure" ... a criminal, a ladysman, a tough guy, a businessman, an athlete, ... rebel.

This list is unrealistically broad. Instead of being true to your values, it tries to be all things to all people. That is the problem with the Gmanifesto. It is a fantasy about having it all, not a genuine model for self-improvement.

[thegmanifesto]

kimleebj,

"man of leisure" ... a criminal, a ladysman, a tough guy, a businessman, an athlete, ... rebel.

This list is unrealistically broad. Instead of being true to your values, it tries to be all things to all people. That is the problem with the Gmanifesto. It is a fantasy about having it all, not a genuine model for self-improvement."

Fantasy for who?

That is the basic description of every male in my family. Although my Grandfather didn't get to enjoy much "leisure". But his hard work and him passing his knowledge made it possible for me.

And I would hardly call this "having it all".

But I will take it as a compliment. Thank you.

"If you are lucky and talented then you can have them all."

You forgot hard work. And heart. And an unbreakable will. As a matter of fact, I will take those three over luck and talent (two things I am in short supply of).

"But most of us have limitations."

You write for the people with limitations then.

I will live and write for the people that want to overcome them.

[Irminsul]

Quote:

Good food, beautiful women, nice clothes, wine, music, sport, enjoying life, not being a corporate slave.

Over half of this comes down to having money. If you have a steady supply of cash, then traveling, eating good food, wearing nice clothes, not being a corporate slave, etc. is trivial.

It's kinda hard to take G manifesto seriously when:

1) He does not say how he gets money, even in general terms (i.e. job vs. owning a business). Strange that he would omit the most important component of the "lifestyle" he promotes.
2) He does not put up any pics of himself to prove he has done any of the stuff he says he has done.
3) He's got a blog full of affiliate links, which not only clashes with the overall image he's trying to project (since ads are not exactly tasteful), but also with the idea that he's got loads of dough. I mean, how many rich international playboys are pumping bullshit products on their blogs for peanuts?

Frankly, it's difficult to not be skeptical.

[kerouac]

I think if the G-Manifesto became a bit more like Roissy's blog, in the sense that it had better/more-coherent writing, and built on its following, which is totally possible, then I'd imagine it could be very lucrative for G. So far, though, it seems more like a half-assed approach to something that could be really good (no offense). There are some definite gems on the blog, but I think G can bump it up a few notches and make it truly Gangsta.

[skulled]

To be honest, I don't quite understand this request for evidence or proof that I have come across on a number of threads. I mean asking for more information to understand something is fine, but asking people to post pictures or stuff like that is just plain pointless. If one were to resort to that, every thread would turn in to a debate as to whether the content is true and can be verified or not. It's much like asking some one who posts a report to post pictures to validate that they got a notch or scored a flag by asking for pictures and other personal information.

I mean, I don't understand what is so different in accepting it when someone posts that they successfully got laid with a pro/semi-pro without shelling out a buck, but making a big deal about someone who talks about going suited down and swooping "fly girls". Both could equally be true or false. And no, I am not defending G just to make it very clear.

I have read his (did someone ask if he was actually male and ask him to prove it, who knows maybe he is actually a she ... LOL ) stuff, and some of it is out there. So yes somethings I am skeptical about as well, and I don't accept everything that is written. I take what I want, and leave the rest out. If I am particularly interested in something that was written, but I am skeptical about it just makes more sense for me directly ask for further information and then decide to either take it or not.

Another thing a lot of people seem to forget is literary freedom. Yes, not everything you read on the internet or a forum/blog is to be taken as the absolute truth. There will always be exaggeration, so read stuff and take in the content with a grain of salt. After all no one is really forcing you to read something or take it in word to word.

The whole purpose is to share information, and gain as much as possible from it. Not everything works for everyone. Maybe wearing suits is not your thing, so don't take it. I like suits and I wear them all the time and have been doing so for a long time. So maybe I can relate to it in some manner, not the way he writes in terms of names, custom suits etc. But the bottom line is, you've got to do what is comfortable for you and more importantly what works for you. If something seems interesting, try it and see if it works rather than asking why it will work. There is no universal solution.

I understand it is a good thing to be skeptical and have threads like this, but too many of these doesn't help any one. And a much better way to tackle skepticism is to ask for further information and then forming an opinion or judgement, than taking the bashing route and asking for proof.

Just my two cents!

[thegmanifesto]

Irminsul,

I have addressed your points countless times.

But lets make this nice and sparkling clear:

"1) He does not say how he gets money, even in general terms (i.e. job vs. owning a business). Strange that he would omit the most important component of the "lifestyle" he promotes."

I think it is pretty damn obvious that I don't work a "job". If you read what I write, it is also pretty damn obvious what I do for a living. I talk about it and allude to it all the time.

"2) He does not put up any pics of himself to prove he has done any of the stuff he says he has done."

I am a man. I am not a little girl on facebook. I don't put up "pics". I know this is hard for you kids these days to grasp. But I come from a world where privacy is valued and being low-profile is revered.

I don't know a single person who doesn't feel the same way as me on this. I find it truly amazing that people have your viewpoint.

"3) He's got a blog full of affiliate links, which not only clashes with the overall image he's trying to project (since ads are not exactly tasteful), but also with the idea that he's got loads of dough. I mean, how many rich international playboys are pumping bullshit products on their blogs for peanuts?"

Most of that is to help people. Like Roosh as an example.

I find it strange that you have a problem with making money.

I have no idea where you are from or how you grew up, but it is safe to say that it was completely different than me. Maybe that's why you are having a tough time getting it.

We clear?

kerouac,

What I write about doesn't appeal to the masses. Their lives are too weak. Hell, even some people on here are amazed that someone can travel, make money, swoop girls, smoke cigarettes and wear Custom Suits, which blows my mind since that is basically what everyone on here does or aspires to do.

"had better/more-coherent writing, and built on its following, which is totally possible, then I'd imagine it could be very lucrative for G."

I have never claimed to be a writer. Read my earlier stuff, the writing quality is horrible. That all being said, I have gotten a call from an Oscar nominated producer who wants me to write a screenplay, so it can't be all bad.

But again, I don't write this to make money. It is an artistic release and fun to me.

Let's be real though, the stuff I churn out is light years ahead of what other cats are writing about. It has to be, I was doing the sh*t they are writing about at age 18.

skulled,

I think you get it.

I never really understand what I write about that people have such a hard time grasping/believing. And you will notice, they never mention anything specific.

I have written for 5 years, so there is plenty to pick apart. The problem is the stuff I write is bullet proof because its real.

[kimleebj]

(02-12-2011 10:02 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

people on here are amazed that someone can travel, smoke cigarettes and wear Custom Suits, ... what everyone on here does or aspires to do.

Classic.

[Moma]

I like the travelling and I do like the custom suits theory. If wearing custom suits would increase my chances of getting poontang, then I'd wear nothing but custom suits. But I don't fantasise about the cigarettes although puffing on a Cuban appeals greatly to me.

[thegmanifesto]

"If wearing custom suits would increase my chances of getting poontang, then I'd wear nothing but custom suits."

Not only in my experience does it increase the chances of swooping fly girls, it also makes life easier all around: good tables at restaurants, cutting thru the line at nightclubs, respect, biz opportunities etc.

"But I don't fantasise about the cigarettes although puffing on a Cuban appeals greatly to me."

No fantasy at all. I have girls open me every night due to smoking. A cigar is just a different side of the same coin.

Here is what I say to all the doubters (and I am not referring to Moma):

1. Go through the process and expense of having a Custom Suit Made
2. Get confident in yourself so you can wear it naturally
3. Get yourself into tip top shape, preferably by Boxing and Surfing
4. Roll out to the dopest spot where you are with cigarettes, a big Bankroll and said Custom Suit

And if it doesn't work great for you, then tell me you don't believe in what I write about.

Until then, you are just yapping.

[Giovonny]

One thing that I think some people are missing is the word "Custom". A custom suit is so much different then an "off the rack" suit. A custom suit is designed exactly for your body. It should fit you perfectly and cover up you bodies' weaknesses while highlighting your bodies' strengths. Being in shape is even better because a custom suit will make you appear with a small waist and broad shoulders, appealing to a womans natural desire for a strong protector.

"Off the rack" suits make you look like an amateur hack who is trying to hard.

Think of a college kid on an oversized suit that doesn't even fit him right. Thats not what G is talking about. A custom suit is a whole different ball game. Especially, if it has some subtle off colored pin stripes with matching hankercheif etc. etc.

If you know how to dress and carry yourself, you are communcating to a woman that you are strong, stylish, confident, and mysterious. I shitty suit doesn't communicate that. It can actually will be counter-productive.

Anyways, my point is that not all suits are the same and the difference between a custom suit and a regular suit is like the difference between an organic grass fed filet mignon and a cheeseburger at McDonalds.

And as far as making money, anyone with any street sense knows that a guy who never says how he makes his money is a guy that doesn't want people to know about it. And that means that you are better off not knowing. That way if anybody ever asks you any ?'s, you can just be honest and say ..." i have no idea". If you know a mans secrets you become a danger to him.

I know G doesn't need me to defend him, I just wanna add to the discussion and clarify some sticking points that I see.

[Moma]

(02-22-2011 02:13 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

"If wearing custom suits would increase my chances of getting poontang, then I'd wear nothing but custom suits."

Not only in my experience does it increase the chances of swooping fly girls, it also makes life easier all around: good tables at restaurants, cutting thru the line at nightclubs, respect, biz opportunities etc.

"But I don't fantasise about the cigarettes although puffing on a Cuban appeals greatly to me."

No fantasy at all. I have girls open me every night due to smoking. A cigar is just a different side of the same coin.

Here is what I say to all the doubters (and I am not referring to Moma):

1. Go through the process and expense of having a Custom Suit Made
2. Get confident in yourself so you can wear it naturally
3. Get yourself into tip top shape, preferably by Boxing and Surfing
4. Roll out to the dopest spot where you are with cigarettes, a big Bankroll and said Custom Suit

And if it doesn't work great for you, then tell me you don't believe in what I write about.

Until then, you are just yapping.

Sounds good, I am digging the custom suits. Not sure about the bankroll cos that means that I'm just paying for the hoes and if so, game is not involved.

I'm in good shape so that's locked off.

I'm not a smoker so if I pose with cigarettes, I'm gonna attract ashy breath hoes and I can't stand a lizard with smoke breath, I don't give a FCUK how fly she is!

So all that is left is custom suits. Once I get my stacks up, I'd like to get 5 made. How much did one run you, brah?@Gmanifesto

[thegmanifesto]

"Not sure about the bankroll cos that means that I'm just paying for the hoes and if so, game is not involved."

This is regular guy, conventional thinking.

Don't think this way.

To understand what I write about, you need to re-condition your mind (which is why there is such an up and down acceptance of what I write about).

A huge hallmark of what I write about is "having" a Bankroll is not necessarily "spending" your Bankroll.

I don't spend a ton of money frivolously (if I can help it). For instance it is well documented about my disdain for Bottle Service: http://www.thegmanifesto.com/2007/07/bot...tlife.html (I wrote that back when the whole world was loving bottle service).

If you have money and carry yourself the right way, you will realize that you don't need to spend it.

Things are given to you.

It's The G Manifesto Way.

[Mystik]

In support of suits,

1. A couple of weeks a go I met a girl I went to college with and wanted to bang. It didn't really work out and she has always had a bitchy attitude towards me. This time I met her while I was going for work in a suit (off the shelf) and a nice tie, we chatted for a few minutes and then I left.

Next day I wake up and check my FB account and she wants to know what I am doing in the evening. I give her her my phone number and she messages me the entire day.

Was it the suit? Probably.

2. I am wearing a nice formal shirt with a pair of black jeans and semi formal shoes. So this is not even close to what G asks you to do. I walk into my bank and get VIP treatment from almost everyone in the bank.

Was it the way I dressed? Maybe. I usually go to the bank in shorts, tshirts and flip flops.

In favor of a bank roll. There has only been one time in my life when I had a decent bank roll and I used to act like I was the king of the world but still did not waste my money on useless pursuits. Having money gives you confidence. No doubt.

With that being said.I strongly disagree with G on certain things. Such as smoking cigarettes. I and G have had this discussion before so I wont go into it again. But it doesn't matter because I am interested in picking up the best pieces from everyone and developing my own style.

I tested the guy with somewhat of a trick question on Barcelona and he passed. His info on the city is solid.I do get skeptical when I learn that no one on this forum has ever met him but maybe he is private person and does not want the fame. Its hard to swallow this in today's world where everyone is fame hungry but maybe this guy is different or maybe he is a fake. Do I care, nope! As long as I am getting valuable advice that works in the real world I couldn't care less.

On a different note.

G,

I am interested in learning about your time management skills. What is your usual day like?

[Luckystar]

(02-22-2011 04:49 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

If you have money and carry yourself the right way, you will realize that you don't need to spend it.

Things are given to you.

It's The G Manifesto Way.

Straight up gold right there.

There's a certain discipline and toughness today's guys are missing IMO.

Learn how to handle yourself, and people will dance to your music.

[Moma]

I agree with the suits as well. I don't have anything custom made but when I usually rock a basic outfit, I find it has the same effect as a muscular body, women flock to me like pelicans when you throw bread on the beach and fellas avert their eyes and can't maintain eye contact.

It's a beautiful thing.

I can't wait to get things nice, I am going to look sick with custom suits (angling for 5) so sick that peeps will need a sip of benadyne just to fcuk wit me.

Hey G, you still have not answered how much a custom suit goes for?

Don't worry I won't be able to trace your whereabouts or your occupation based on how much you pay for your threads.

[oldnemesis]

Quote:

4. Roll out to the dopest spot where you are with cigarettes, a big Bankroll and said Custom Suit[/b]

How do you find those dopest spots? I have no idea even what those spots are, not to mention where they are located.

[speakeasy]

Hey can anyone post some fashion photos of what kind of suit look to wear out at night? I'm sure it's not our regular button up business suit. I can't see going out to a club in that. I don't wear suits myself, but I do want to get a few in case I need them.

[rudebwoy]

Like G says, the dudes that are putting him down just don't understand.
Wearing a custom suit says so much more than words, wearing a good "off the rack" suit will put you ahead of the pack. Heck, guys in my city wear the over-priced jeans and black shirt look to death on a night out. Some dudes mix it up with the stripe shirt look, as G would say they are probably mortgage brokers.lol
Why do you need to know what he looks like? I read Roissy's blog and I don't care what he looks like, what he says makes alot of sense just like G Manifesto.
I am looking into one of these suits english-gents.net.

[stein]

Speakeasy, here's a full-blown suit discussion with pics. http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-3502.html

I guess the easiest thing would be to try one on and ask if you see yourself wearing it out at night.

[kerouac]

(02-22-2011 04:49 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

If you have money and carry yourself the right way, you will realize that you don't need to spend it.

This is the frame of mind considered to be "OLD MONEY". It's nothing new or innovative. It's what separates Kanye West from someone like Jay Z, even though neither would be considered "old money", Jay Z is much more mature and has a different understanding of money and its power.

[theIVth]

(02-23-2011 01:12 PM)Moma Wrote:  

I agree with the suits as well. I don't have anything custom made but when I usually rock a basic outfit, I find it has the same effect as a muscular body, women flock to me like pelicans when you throw bread on the beach and fellas avert their eyes and can't maintain eye contact.

It's a beautiful thing.

I can't wait to get things nice, I am going to look sick with custom suits (angling for 5) so sick that peeps will need a sip of benadyne just to fcuk wit me.

Hey G, you still have not answered how much a custom suit goes for?

Don't worry I won't be able to trace your whereabouts or your occupation based on how much you pay for your threads.

Custom suits are not cheap. I have about 5 suits myself and none of them were custom made for me. The average suit off the rack will cost you anwhere from $200 to $800 and up. If your looking to get a suit custom made, have at least $1000 to spend (really more like $1500).

Custom suits, to be honest, are overboard for most people unless you are just a connoisseur and love wearing suits. If you want to get into the suit game, just find out where suits are sold in your town and go shopping. Ask for the "athletic"/modern cut suits. Tell the sales person to measure you so that you'll know your size.....and then just try some shit on.

[Luckystar]

(02-23-2011 10:42 PM)kerouac Wrote:  

(02-22-2011 04:49 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

If you have money and carry yourself the right way, you will realize that you don't need to spend it.

This is the frame of mind considered to be "OLD MONEY". It's nothing new or innovative. It's what separates Kanye West from someone like Jay Z, even though neither would be considered "old money", Jay Z is much more mature and has a different understanding of money and its power.

This should be basic logic, but the concept of being a 'G' involves a lot of 'old school' / 'old country' premises.

So, ya. You could say he is referring to an 'old money' understanding of money. Yet another concept lost on the average soft male.