[Nomad77]

It's just a reflection of the people and their taste.

"Nobody ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public."

[soup]

Where did you get that quote?

[Nomad77]

(04-23-2014 12:35 AM)soup Wrote:  

Where did you get that quote?

It's actually quite famous: H. L. Mencken

[TigerMandingo]

(04-22-2014 09:51 PM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:  

(04-22-2014 06:10 PM)Cunnilinguist Wrote:  

I would also agree with Nomad about the all the hardcore fucking being weird and degenerate. Now, dont get me wrong, I sometimes engage in it and I completely understand it. But all in all, it's just one more sign of a decaying society where all people wanna do is just hook up and rough fuck.

Judging by this thread, it seems like the last thing people want to do.

It seems to me all they want to do is whine about how "weird", "degenerate" and "empty" it all is.

And this is on a players' forum so what does that say about society at large? Maybe the "decay" has been a little overstated, lol. All I see is relentless prudery and moralizing everywhere I look.

(04-22-2014 06:10 PM)Cunnilinguist Wrote:  

Also, a lot of this shit is coming from porn these days which has turned so extreme it's borderline criminal (Dp, ass to mouth etc.)

Contemporary American porn is "borderline criminal" mainly in the near impossibility of finding even a single serviceable uninked slut.

Otherwise it basically looks like a regimented and grueling sports event, maybe something like a combination of synchronized swimming and a triathlon. It utterly lacks real perversity and has the athletic innocence and emphasis on endurance and simple minded exuberance that characterizes a young culture like America.

Yes, because you wont find anything as similar as synchronized swimming and throatfucking. Come on, man. Im not sure what youre on about here.

[The Lizard of Oz]

(04-23-2014 09:17 AM)Cunnilinguist Wrote:  

Yes, because you wont find anything as similar as synchronized swimming and throatfucking. Come on, man. Im not sure what youre on about here.

Actually, they are quite similar. Both are essentially choreographed athletic events that require hard work and stamina from the participants. I threw the triathlon in there because of the greater emphasis in contemporary American porn on "pushing the envelope" of physical endurance in various gangbangs, gagfests etc.

There is nothing in these athletic displays to detain a true lecher and connoisseur of the sexual and the perverse. They belong to a culture with an extremely healthy, simple-minded and exuberant idea of sexuality as a kind of athletic exhibition. Indeed, one of the most notable and best things about America generally is how it turns every aspect of life into a sport of one kind or another. That is great for a civilization, not so great for a pornography.

If you want to get some taste of real perversity and of the slow gloomy concentration on the moving meat that characterizes the serious lecher, you would have to turn to the pornography of other countries and times, most notably Japan. But that is a different subject.

[TigerMandingo]

^ One of the strangest things Ive yet to read on this forum. I guess well just have to agree to disagree.

[Bill]

(04-23-2014 12:46 PM)Cunnilinguist Wrote:  

^ One of the strangest things Ive yet to read on this forum. I guess well just have to agree to disagree.

There might be some truth there. Europeans and americans like to make rules so things can be sports and competition. It has it´s benefits for shure but sometimes it kills the vibe. Think for example of dancing. The best dancers in the world come from western countries though the dances are often south american dances like Rumba, Chachacha and so on. But in general the people from latin america feel the dance and it´s part of their culture.

Think of the vid of "Jim Ross calls Jamaican Club Daggering (Wrestling)". You won´t find something like that in the "white culture"



American porn lacks some perversity it´s really like a sportive event. Rocco Siffredi stands for the other part where perversion is the topic. But I could be wrong. We need some porn scientists here.

[Nomad77]

Maybe I need to remind everyone that this is not a state of porn thread. It is a thread about how we have just become a bunch of entertainers to women working our asses off for a little pussy. Redefining ourselves for a little pussy. A little pussy that is usually attached to a self centered, arrogant girl that really doesn't give a shit about us. And this is why I called us cheap ho's.

If we want to change women we have to stop validating/having sex with the ones we dislike and validate and have sex with the ones we do like. Personally, I will not have sex with a girl I dislike regardless of how good she looks.

[berserk]

(04-23-2014 11:48 AM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:  

(04-23-2014 09:17 AM)Cunnilinguist Wrote:  

Yes, because you wont find anything as similar as synchronized swimming and throatfucking. Come on, man. Im not sure what youre on about here.

Actually, they are quite similar. Both are essentially choreographed athletic events that require hard work and stamina from the participants. I threw the triathlon in there because of the greater emphasis in contemporary American porn on "pushing the envelope" of physical endurance in various gangbangs, gagfests etc.

There is nothing in these athletic displays to detain a true lecher and connoisseur of the sexual and the perverse. They belong to a culture with an extremely healthy, simple-minded and exuberant idea of sexuality as a kind of athletic exhibition. Indeed, one of the most notable and best things about America generally is how it turns every aspect of life into a sport of one kind or another. That is great for a civilization, not so great for a pornography.

If you want to get some taste of real perversity and of the slow gloomy concentration on the moving meat that characterizes the serious lecher, you would have to turn to the pornography of other countries and times, most notably Japan. But that is a different subject.

No, I agree totally. Recent American porn is generally completely unwatchable and some of the least sexy you can find. Steroid pumped douchebags to the size of professional bodybuilders, clearly selected for their 'size' in all departments, which to me is rather weird to begin with. Is the goal of porn to give the watching man a sense of inadequacy? The "women" are incredibly masculine and absolutely best comparable to olympic athletes with muscular bodies, strong jaw lines and fake tits. The only motto seems to be bigger, faster, deeper. The fake groaning and glazed cocaine eyes only add to the enjoyment.

And yes, japanese porn is superior and infinitely more imaginative, but lets not make this a porn thread I agree.

[soup]

Nomad moving dangerously close to the troll side in that last post..

[JayD]

(04-19-2014 11:18 AM)Nomad77 Wrote:  

Men have always paid dearly for sex - in one way or another. The gamers (aka players) do it with time and energy and so do the regular Joe's. A businessman may pay for it with gifts or direct payment in cash. Either way we are paying for it. Traditionally women wanted access to resources (money etc.) that men had and controlled and trade sex to get it via some sort of transactional relationship model.

Now, things are bit different. A lot of women no longer need us for access to resources or money. In many cases they have access to more than us. As women become more masculine in their outlook they have started to view sex more and more like men do. That is, they want the freedom to have sex whenever they want with whoever they want. The modern woman wants sex BUT she wants it at her convenience and with the best looking guys she can get. Essentially same as us. The big difference though is that while men traditionally paid for sex in one way or other - we are giving it to women for free! A woman text us to come over and we are only too happy to comply and what do we get in return? Nothing. Once she has got what she wanted she kicks us out and we may never hear from her again. We are essentially giving women the only thing they want from us for FREE! We are like cheap prostitutes.

If a woman is under 30 and not looking for marriage or kids and she has a fairly decent job what does she need from us? Just two things: validation and sex. And both of them we gladly give away for free. If you believe in the transactional relationship model then what are we getting in return from women today? This really hit me the other night when at 4am in the morning this American woman informed me that she wasn't finish having sex as yet after I told her I was tired. She told me to go take a Viagra or something and when I told her that doesn't give you energy. She then told me to take a Red Bull with it. Or another time this girl told me right after sex, the Kardashians are going to be on soon - meaning, it's was time for me to leave. More and more I am beginning to feel like a cheap prostitute. If we think we are fucking these girls, we are delusional. It is we who are getting fucked and since we are still clinging to our outdated "conqueror/notch" mentally we don't even realize it.

We are giving away for free the only things women want from us today: our validation and sex. I don't know about you but I don't like feeling like a cheap prostitute.
More and more, modern men, are acting like women and they don't even realize it. We are acting the way women did 20+ years ago. We feel we have to look good and perform good sexually for women. Think about it, this was exactly how women felt 20+ years ago.

Aren't you her booty call? Not surprised the way she acted since you gave her the power.

I thought the point of casual sex was to fuck the girl then leave why are you staying for affection? Sounds gay.

[TigerMandingo]

(04-23-2014 06:43 PM)soup Wrote:  

Nomad moving dangerously close to the troll side in that last post..

Joseph McCarthy over here. We get it. You dont agree with the OP.

[Nomad77]

lol...don't worry about soup. He thinks I am both a communist and mangina Soup is like the football stud in high school, representative of the hardcore player faction on here, that likes to pick on the more nerdy guys. Any guy that is not is not a hardcore player, willing to slay any and every pussy out there, is beneath his contempt

@JayD Let me ask you something? Do you ever have any respect for a girl that's just a booty call? Well, that's what us men (here in America) have basically become to girls now - just a booty call and we are accorded just about same amount of respect. Now, I understand, you are getting some pussy and that's all that matters, who needs any respect or affection. You are a real man and you are going to show those bitches who is boss. Well, thank God, we have guys like you and soup to protect the American male honor and to teach those bitches some respect by fucking them until the literally pass out from multiple orgasms: the Bang Team 6, willing and ready to responded to the first text from a girl to come over and show her what a real man is. That will certainly teach them to respect us and show them who is boss in this damn country!

[soup]

(04-24-2014 10:02 AM)Nomad77 Wrote:  

lol...don't worry about soup. He thinks I am both a communist and mangina

@JayD Let me ask you something? Do you ever have any respect for a girl that's just a booty call? Well, that's what us men (here in America) have basically become to girls now - just a booty call and are we are accorded just about same amount of respect.

When did I say anything about you being a communist

[reaper23]

(04-20-2014 03:49 AM)Nomad77 Wrote:  

I have no doubt my standards are high probably absurdly so. A good friend of mine once told me that my idea of a six is like an eight to him.

bro- if the girls you are fucking are watching kardashians, i dont think your standards are really quite that high.

everything is about frame and tolerance levels. ie. have no tolerance.

[AneroidOcean]

I wholeheartedly agree with what reaper23 said. You say this:

(04-23-2014 01:10 PM)Nomad77 Wrote:  

Personally, I will not have sex with a girl I dislike regardless of how good she looks.

And I call bullshit, by your very own words it's apparent that the above is a self-delusion:

(04-19-2014 11:18 AM)Nomad77 Wrote:  

This really hit me the other night when at 4am in the morning this American woman informed me that she wasn't finish having sex as yet after I told her I was tired. She told me to go take a Viagra or something and when I told her that doesn't give you energy. She then told me to take a Red Bull with it. Or another time this girl told me right after sex, the Kardashians are going to be on soon - meaning, it's was time for me to leave. More and more I am beginning to feel like a cheap prostitute.

You also use a LOT of logical fallacies when responding to people who disagree with you, it doesn't make your case.

[Nomad77]

What do you think my case is?