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Quote: (04-13-2014 10:09 PM)Samseau Wrote:
Quote: (04-13-2014 12:23 PM)Moma Wrote:
Samseau - people mix cos they are horny and that's what available.
Whoever has the nicest smelling vagina, big tits, round arse etc. and youthful looking skin will attract the man..
I don't think there is any race that signals health any more than the other race...if one is a young attractive lizard..fcuk if you are white, blue or purple..men are trying to fcuk and this has been proven throughout the ages!
We all have preferences but when it comes down to the meat and bones, REAL MEN will fcuk any reptile that has nice hip to waist ratio, big jugs and a tight, yet warm, juicy vagina.
Who cares about men's preferences? Everyone knows men will fuck any hot babe. You need to take into account the women, who are by far the picker of sexes. It's their subconscious mind that might be directing them to a man who they will produce more attractive offspring with.
Quote: (04-13-2014 10:09 PM)Samseau Wrote:
First off, no one knows if people came from Africa or not. I've already shown before that we know far less than we think we do.
Second, far more important than mutation is the role of sexual selection.
For example, Alexander the Great is the reason why Persians have a lot of white features. Him and his army probably raped half of Asia, just like Genghis Khan did.
Quote: (04-13-2014 10:09 PM)Samseau Wrote:
Just because I am a multi-racial man does not mean I live in a multi-racial zone. I live in the North East, dominated by whites. If it wasn't for the generosity and affluence of white people, my mother would have never been adopted from her poor life in Seoul. (I'm not Chinese!)
Thus it's directly in my self-interest for me to be wary of anything that abolishes white culture, otherwise I'd be biting that hand that feeds me.
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First off, no one knows if people came from Africa or not. I've already shown before that we know far less than we think we do.
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I have read a lot of history and consistently a big theme is non-white men invading white lands just for the women.
Quote: (04-13-2014 11:44 PM)Deluge Wrote:
I realized when you said in the Jews thread that we can't trace paternal lines with DNA testing that you know nothing about genetics, yet you claim to know more about our ancient ancestry than the overwhelming consensus of scientists
Quote: (04-14-2014 12:15 AM)Hotwheels Wrote:
If/when I have children is will be with a tall blue eyed blonde as I desire to advance my ethnic group.
Do I find some of the mixes posted in this thread hot as fuck? Yes.
Would I bang them in a heartbeat? Yes.
I do not have any desire to spawn offspring with them however.
Guess I'm an outlier around here.
Quote: (04-13-2014 10:09 PM)Samseau Wrote:
Just because I am a multi-racial man does not mean I live in a multi-racial zone. I live in the North East, dominated by whites. If it wasn't for the generosity and affluence of white people, my mother would have never been adopted from her poor life in Seoul. (I'm not Chinese!)
Thus it's directly in my self-interest for me to be wary of anything that abolishes white culture, otherwise I'd be biting that hand that feeds me.
Quote: (04-13-2014 10:09 PM)Samseau Wrote:
Remember: "The sum is greater than it's parts." A white society with a bit of color splashed in? No problem. A totally multi-racial society with no dominant race? Will it be like Brazil? Super violent? No mobility? Dirty? Lots of dancing?
Quote: (04-14-2014 12:15 AM)Hotwheels Wrote:
If/when I have children is will be with a tall blue eyed blonde as I desire to advance my ethnic group.
Do I find some of the mixes posted in this thread hot as fuck? Yes.
Would I bang them in a heartbeat? Yes.
I do not have any desire to spawn offspring with them however.
Guess I'm an outlier around here.
Quote: (04-13-2014 11:44 PM)Deluge Wrote:
Quote: (04-13-2014 10:09 PM)Samseau Wrote:
First off, no one knows if people came from Africa or not. I've already shown before that we know far less than we think we do.
Second, far more important than mutation is the role of sexual selection.
For example, Alexander the Great is the reason why Persians have a lot of white features. Him and his army probably raped half of Asia, just like Genghis Khan did.
Both your claims about Out of Africa and the Greeks in Persia are impossible to square with DNA testing. The Greek's contribution to Persian ancestry is quite minor, there just weren't many of Alexander's troops in Persia relatively to Persia's population. If you trace back our paternal and matrilineal lines with DNA testing you'll find that all Y and MtDNA groups trace back to a single male and female respectively in sub-Saharan Africa (they lived at different times for clarification, they did not mate together like a literal Adam or Eve).
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A human male should largely share the same Y chromosome as his father, give or take a few mutations; thus Y chromosomes tend to pass largely intact from father to son, with a small but accumulating number of mutations that can serve to differentiate male lineages. In particular, the Y-DNA represented as the numbered results of a Y-DNA genealogical DNA test should match, except for mutations.
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A study of haplotypes of the Y-chromosome, published in 2000, addressed the paternal origins of Ashkenazi Jews. Hammer et al.[109] found that the Y-chromosome of Ashkenazi and Sephardic Jews contained mutations that are also common among Middle Eastern peoples, but uncommon in the general European population. This suggested that the male ancestors of the Ashkenazi Jews could be traced mostly to the Middle East.
Quote: (04-14-2014 12:11 AM)speakeasy Wrote:
Modern humans i.e. homo sapiens originated in Africa. That isn't even disputed.
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I have read a lot of history and consistently a big theme is non-white men invading white lands just for the women.
You'll have to provide some examples, because other than the Moors, I'm not aware of too many non-whites who invaded Europe in large numbers.
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And if this happened as much as you claim then the white race should show a large degree of admixture like Native Americans and blacks in the Americas. Do you have any DNA evidence supporting sizable non-white DNA in the European gene pool? It seems to me you have it twisted. It was white men seeding other men's women, black slaves and Native Americans.
Quote: (04-14-2014 02:27 AM)speakeasy Wrote:
There are other forums and blogs I poke around on that discuss race, history, genetics and such. One thing I commonly find is that white nationalists and racists are terrified of the out of Africa theory. It's like they so don't want to be connected to Africa in any way that they will clutch at anything to not believe that they have any ancestral ties with Africa, even if it was hundreds of thousands of years ago. Some of these clowns even latch on to pseudo-scientific claims that all the races have separate origins. These people are as bad as the flat earth society. Some go as far as to think that they are superior because they have Neanderthal DNA and blacks don't. They clutch at this even though Neanderthals looked like that damn Geico caveman. But hey, blacks don't have their DNA so it must be a good thing! These are the same people are are against race-mixing(as well as tout it as unnatural) who don't see the apparent hypocrisy in bragging about European homo sapiens mixing with Neanderthals when they aren't even the same species.
Quote: (04-14-2014 02:32 AM)Samseau Wrote:
See my post with Pdog I mean Deluge.
Quote: (04-10-2014 06:41 PM)Samseau Wrote:
DNA studies can only trace the women and not the men.
Quote: (04-14-2014 02:55 AM)All or Nothing Wrote:
None of the ideas surrounding human origins and evolution is scientific fact, hence the term theory.
It can not be unequivocally proven where humans originated and all theories surrounding this can still be contested as more evidence arises.
This means that the most supported theory of human origins can still change.
Also, you are letting your emotions obscure your worldview.
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I am amused at all/nothing response:
http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-35023-...#pid702140
I am a scientist. that post alone shows that all/nothing has zero understanding of scientific theory. scientific theory are based on scientific facts. he clearly doesnt understand the scientific method/process.
when scientist says something is a scientific theory... they do not mean the word "theory" in the same way general people mean "theory". What general people mean by "theory" is what scientists call "hypothesis". When general people make claims without any facts, that is called "conjecture". Scientific theory is not a conjecture... scientific theory is not a hypothesis.
Scientific theory is something that has been proven a million times over and over, under all sorts of rigorously crazy conditions for years after years with facts after facts after facts... then and only then, do we call it a scientific theory.
For example:
Gravity is a scientific theory. heck, it is called the theory of gravitation. so, because of that, you will jump off a building and fly like superman? of course you will die.
the newtonian classical mechanics of F = MA (that describes the force of an accelerating object) is a theory. So, because of that, you will stand in front of a moving train or a flying bullet, because it is a scientific theory?
Even numbers are theory... there is a field of mathematics called Number theory. . So i guess 2 oranges + 2 oranges = 4 oranges is wrong!!
For the sake of mary, mother of jesus, where do they get these people from?
these people are hopeless
Quote: (04-14-2014 12:15 AM)Hotwheels Wrote:
If/when I have children is will be with a tall blue eyed blonde as I desire to advance my ethnic group.
Do I find some of the mixes posted in this thread hot as fuck? Yes.
Would I bang them in a heartbeat? Yes.
I do not have any desire to spawn offspring with them however.
Guess I'm an outlier around here.
Quote: (04-14-2014 12:18 AM)speakeasy Wrote:
Quote: (04-14-2014 12:15 AM)Hotwheels Wrote:
If/when I have children is will be with a tall blue eyed blonde as I desire to advance my ethnic group.
Do I find some of the mixes posted in this thread hot as fuck? Yes.
Would I bang them in a heartbeat? Yes.
I do not have any desire to spawn offspring with them however.
Guess I'm an outlier around here.
That's your prerogative. Nothing wrong with that.
Muhammed Ali shared your view:
Quote: (04-14-2014 05:21 AM)Deluge Wrote:
Quote: (04-14-2014 02:32 AM)Samseau Wrote:
See my post with Pdog I mean Deluge.
Getting passive aggressive over being called out on false information is just weak.
First you said
Quote: (04-10-2014 06:41 PM)Samseau Wrote:
DNA studies can only trace the women and not the men.
Now you say that we can trace both paternal and maternal lines but they're are limitations to them... You literally didn't even know you could trace paternal lines until I told you we could, and you expect the unsubstantiated things you're literally making up in this thread and others to have any credibility?
We can trace Y and MtDNA conclusively back to Africa. For example, all Y-DNA Haplogroup's in the world have been proven to descend from Haplogroup's A and B, the most ancient haplogroups, whose carriers today are only found in sub-Saharan Africa. Not only can we trace our ancestry back to Africa paternally and maternally, we can also do it without sex-chromosomes at all. Autosomal DNA tests also prove Out of Africa because they prove that the vast majority of human genetic diversity exists within Africa rather than outside it, because all non-Blacks descend from a subset of the larger African population at the time who migrated out of Africa. Go back hundreds of thousands of years and all of your ancestors, even the lines that descend from Neanderthals and other Hominid's, lived in Africa.
If the Persians really had as substantial a Greek component to their ancestry as you say they do, they would cluster much closer to the Greeks in DNA tests then they actually do. Alexander the Great was no Genghis Khan. It seems like you're romanticizing Alexander just because you grew up Greek Orthodox.
Quote: (04-14-2014 02:55 AM)All or Nothing Wrote:
None of the ideas surrounding human origins and evolution is scientific fact, hence the term theory.
It can not be unequivocally proven where humans originated and all theories surrounding this can still be contested as more evidence arises.
This means that the most supported theory of human origins can still change.
Also, you are letting your emotions obscure your worldview.
I'm going to quote the more civil part of a PM a forum member sent me about this and the bullshit Samseau's spouting...
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I am amused at all/nothing response:
http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-35023-...#pid702140
I am a scientist. that post alone shows that all/nothing has zero understanding of scientific theory. scientific theory are based on scientific facts. he clearly doesnt understand the scientific method/process.
when scientist says something is a scientific theory... they do not mean the word "theory" in the same way general people mean "theory". What general people mean by "theory" is what scientists call "hypothesis". When general people make claims without any facts, that is called "conjecture". Scientific theory is not a conjecture... scientific theory is not a hypothesis.
Scientific theory is something that has been proven a million times over and over, under all sorts of rigorously crazy conditions for years after years with facts after facts after facts... then and only then, do we call it a scientific theory.
For example:
Gravity is a scientific theory. heck, it is called the theory of gravitation. so, because of that, you will jump off a building and fly like superman? of course you will die.
the newtonian classical mechanics of F = MA (that describes the force of an accelerating object) is a theory. So, because of that, you will stand in front of a moving train or a flying bullet, because it is a scientific theory?
Even numbers are theory... there is a field of mathematics called Number theory. . So i guess 2 oranges + 2 oranges = 4 oranges is wrong!!
For the sake of mary, mother of jesus, where do they get these people from?
these people are hopeless
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Y-chromosomal Adam is named after the biblical Adam, but the bearer of the chromosome was not the only human male alive during his time.[1] His other male contemporaries could also have descendants alive today, but not, by definition, solely through patrilineal descent.
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he age for the Y-MRCA has been variously estimated as 188,000,[2] 270,000,[3] 306,000,[4] and 142,000 years[5] A paper published in March 2013 reported an older estimate of 338,000 years.[6] Then two simultaneous reports in August 2013 provide younger estimates, one suggested 180,000 to 200,000 years,[7] and another, based on the genome sequence of nine different populations, indicated the age between 120,000 and 156,000 years.[8]
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In addition to the ability of the title of Y-chromosomal Adam to shift forward in time, the estimate of Y-chromosomal Adam's DNA sequence, his position in the family tree, the time when he lived, and his place of origin, are all subject to future revisions.
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I am a scientist. that post alone shows that all/nothing has zero understanding of scientific theory. scientific theory are based on scientific facts. he clearly doesnt understand the scientific method/process.
Quote: (04-13-2014 06:23 PM)Excelsior Wrote:
Who is getting "exterminated" here? What is getting "destroyed"?
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In any case, there are historical differences here. When you refer to "something is studied and classified since the XVIth century", you are referring to the Latin understanding of race. This understanding never existed in the USA, and that is not simply because "it's easier" not to have it. There is a historical rhyme and reason for this distinction. Also, it is not correct to say that this understanding of race "cannot be used today". It is being used today in Latin America, where it was born, but it will never gain a foothold in the USA. The one drop rule is king here.
Quote: (04-13-2014 06:40 PM)speakeasy Wrote:
^^^ From what I understand the mixing in Latin America was only allowed between European men and black and indigenous women. Black and indigenous men weren't mixing with European women. Black and indigenous always mixed freely and their offspring were called zambos.
There was of course a lot of mixing going on in the USA as well and it was tolerated under one condition. That it only be a slavemaster and his slaves. So he had his proper white wife and children, and a bunch of black concubines he routinely knocked up in the barn. In effect making himself more slaves without having to buy them.
Quote: (04-14-2014 05:21 AM)Deluge Wrote:
I am a scientist. that post alone shows that all/nothing has zero understanding of scientific theory. scientific theory are based on scientific facts. he clearly doesnt understand the scientific method/process.
when scientist says something is a scientific theory... they do not mean the word "theory" in the same way general people mean "theory". What general people mean by "theory" is what scientists call "hypothesis". When general people make claims without any facts, that is called "conjecture". Scientific theory is not a conjecture... scientific theory is not a hypothesis.
Scientific theory is something that has been proven a million times over and over, under all sorts of rigorously crazy conditions for years after years with facts after facts after facts... then and only then, do we call it a scientific theory.
For example:
Gravity is a scientific theory. heck, it is called the theory of gravitation. so, because of that, you will jump off a building and fly like superman? of course you will die.
the newtonian classical mechanics of F = MA (that describes the force of an accelerating object) is a theory. So, because of that, you will stand in front of a moving train or a flying bullet, because it is a scientific theory?
Quote: (04-14-2014 10:47 AM)Samseau Wrote:
Because science is a logical term, not a factual one. However, All or Nothing sounds like most professional scientists. Just a dude who spends too much time in the lab without bothering to understand his own profession. No critical reflection whatsoever. Sadly, it is too common.