[Vaun]

(03-27-2014 11:18 PM)Vitriol Wrote:  

(03-27-2014 11:09 PM)Vaun Wrote:  

that live Go With The Flow is pretty good. Since this is a Queens thread I should add this, its Troy Van Leeuins new signature guitar, pretty bad ass

Have any of you guys actually played a Fender and gotten past that twangy/cowboy tone? I can't do it.

Its all in your preference, lots of people like that twang, and thats why they play Fenders. On the other hand, you can make a Fender sound exactly like that Ibanez with different pick ups, and a harder wooded fretboard like ebony or rosewood. But you can hear he gets the same amount of harmonics out of the Fender. Jim Root plays a Fender.

[Farmageddon]

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I met The Jesus Lizard last night, and Guy from Fugazi. Still pretty blown away.

Where on earth did you meet those guys? The Jesus Lizard and Fugazi are like the soundtrack of my adolescence.

I managed to see Scratch Acid about a year or two ago. I didn't think that would ever happen. It was an incredible concert.

Guy's first band, Rites of Spring was really bad ass too.

[Eastside]

(03-27-2014 10:49 PM)Chaos Wrote:  

(03-27-2014 10:43 PM)LeightonBlackstock Wrote:  

I think Queens of the Stone Age are the coolest band on Earth

I'm actually really happy they got rid of Nick Oliveri. There were always four talented, smartly-dressed rock musicians and a trashy loser in sandals who'd do a hash job at the bass live

Here's a slow version of 'Go With the Flow' at their Reading 2008 slot. Cool as fuck:

(We'll get onto the headliners that day in a bit)

Hell yes Leighton! I totally agree with you.
And that version from Reading 08 with the slow Go With the Flow version which leads into Misfit Love is pure magic.
I can't recall how many times I've been watching that.
Goosebumps guaranteed.

I like where this is going.

Misfit Love is definitely an underrated song, although I find myself listening to songs like 3s and 7s, turnin the screw, and make it wit chu more off that album. On the new album, I think vampyre of time and memory and ...like clockwork (album title song) are underrated and awesome. QOTSA has so many badass songs its rediculous.

How many guys on here listen to jazz/rock fusion stuff? I know bands like dave matthews band can be a bit polarizing but I think some of their shit is awesome. Take this for example- listen to the entire thing with the solos for full effect:

Boyd Tinsley's face at 8:30 sums up the whole thing.

Bands like the Yellowjackets and Spyro Gyra are great too although that is much more jazz than rock.

[TonySandos]

[LeightonBlackstock]

(03-27-2014 11:15 PM)LeBeau Wrote:  

I don't follow a lot of the new rock these days, I don't like a lot of what I hear.

Does anyone have suggestions for new artists similar to:

Rage Against the Machine
Smashing Pumpkins
Nirvana
Bush

Because you said these three bands, I'd really recommend early Feeder (first three albums/ep's)

Feeder are a radio friendly pop-rock band these days, but IMO they were Britain's answer to the Smashing Pumpkins at one point.

They're my second favourite grunge band after Nirvana

[unbowed]

Zappa was a red pill through in, through out. Read his autobio if you get the chance; he holds no punches, from the MIC to hippie hypocrisy. His appearance on CNN Crossfire is legendary.

I can't bother with most 90s-contemporary rock; the soft/indie/floating vibe generally turns me off. To me rock is epitomized in rebellion, energy, polarization. Punk rock and heavy metal carried the rock torch as far as it could go. Now rock is fragmented in an endless amount of sub-genres and niches.

I'm going to test the waters and kick things up a notch. This one's about Westerners in Crimea:

[Vaun]

(03-28-2014 12:39 AM)Farmageddon Wrote:  

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I met The Jesus Lizard last night, and Guy from Fugazi. Still pretty blown away.

Where on earth did you meet those guys? The Jesus Lizard and Fugazi are like the soundtrack of my adolescence.

I managed to see Scratch Acid about a year or two ago. I didn't think that would ever happen. It was an incredible concert.

Guy's first band, Rites of Spring was really bad ass too.

Personally I put Guy up there with Hendrix, it was a big moment for me. I saw Fugazi over a dozen times. Unasked, when I told him where I was from he said our club was one of their favorite places to play. Saw Jesus Lizard a few times as well around '91.

It was a book signing for Jesus Lizard in NYC, and I randomly found my way there when walking by. Totally blew off a date. There were a bunch of other people there too.

[Sombro]

Played a bunch of shows opening for Jesus Lizard, and just hanging out. Cool dudes. Yow is the Scrabble champ.
Hung/stayed with Fugazi too. Uptight dudes, way more blue pill, even though this was years ago.

[Vitriol]

"Good golly said little Miss Molly... as she was rockin' in the house of blue light."

[LeBeau]

Always thought Orgy was underrated in the 90's:

[LeBeau]

I saw the Iron Maiden post above, this is my favourite track by them:

[Farmageddon]

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Played a bunch of shows opening for Jesus Lizard, and just hanging out. Cool dudes. Yow is the Scrabble champ.
Hung/stayed with Fugazi too. Uptight dudes, way more blue pill, even though this was years ago.

Yow is a chef too! Did you ever manage to get him to cook you some shit? I hear he is really good.

[Sonsowey]

Funny, I loved Rock music all my life, I play Rock music in a band, but I hardly listen to it anymore. After years and years of looking for modern rock music, I could never really find any I like.

Rock is kinda like Jazz now...

[Screwston]

What about the Buzzcocks? One of my favorite rock bands and they don't get much love.

[Farmageddon]

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What about the Buzzcocks? One of my favorite rock bands and they don't get much love.

One of my favorites too. Crazy thing is, a ton of bands met at Buzzcocks concerts. I know the Sex Pistols did and I think the Clash too. I forget the others.

I had it on the Fugazi station on Pandora at the restaurant today and they played 4-5 Buzzcocks songs throughout the night. Good shit.

You into Magazine? Devoto formed Magazine after he left the Buzzcocks. Totally different stuff but they still rock.

[Farmageddon]

Totally forgotten band from the 1990's. Kurt Cobain had asked Eugene Kelly to co-write the next Nirvana album but ended up committing suicide before they could get together. Eugene Kelly's first band, The Vaselines, were more popular but Eugenius was better.

This song was a tribute to Cobain. Fucking jam. One of my favorites.

[Windom Earle]

(03-27-2014 11:18 PM)Vitriol Wrote:  

Have any of you guys actually played a Fender and gotten past that twangy/cowboy tone? I can't do it.

Good to see QOTSA making a presence here. I'm not in agreement that their latest album is one of their finest though. First 3 were fantastic, and imho, they peaked with SFTD; at least, that is the sound I prefer - darker guitars, robotic riffage, smoother vocal melodies (see last track below).

Speaking of twangy, their guitar sound is definitely in that territory now at times (not that there is anything wrong with that), as opposed to the more typical stoner rock sound. I guess it's all part of a band evolving.

A few of my favourites over the years...

[cardguy]

Why has rock music died over the past decade?

I think people are bored of guitars. Its like there is nothing new that can be done with rock music.

[Chaos]

It hasn't died. It just keep changing all the time.
Still the big oldschool bands sell out every single arena.

[LeightonBlackstock]

Rage Against the Machine:

I've seen many bands live but they have a habit of causing a fucking warzone!

I remember at Finsbury Park when Zack shouted "This next song is called.... TOWNSHIP. REBELLION."

I.e THIS was coming:

[Chaos]

"Why Phil Rudd is the coolest drummer"

This is absolutley priceless. Brian is an awesome storyteller.

[CJ_W]

(03-27-2014 04:54 PM)JJ Roberts Wrote:  

I used to be a (part time) rock journalist back in the 1990s

Got bored of rock music in the mid to late 1990s so I stopped doing it.

Around that time (After Nirvana), rock music became pretty bad, Blink 182, Nickleback, Creed, etc etc. . .

There are some good bands from that time though.

At the Drive in/The Mars Volta are my favorites

[Vaun]

(03-30-2014 02:34 PM)CJ_W Wrote:  

(03-27-2014 04:54 PM)JJ Roberts Wrote:  

I used to be a (part time) rock journalist back in the 1990s

Got bored of rock music in the mid to late 1990s so I stopped doing it.

Around that time (After Nirvana), rock music became pretty bad, Blink 182, Nickleback, Creed, etc etc. . .

There are some good bands from that time though.

At the Drive in/The Mars Volta are my favorites

most of the bands in that period that came after the grunge period were just corporate copy cats, and I checked out pretty hard after 95-96. There were still some great acts making records, Sunny Day, Built To Spill, Cursive, Braid, Hot Water Music, Rocket from the Crypt, etc. ATDI and Mars Volta. Mars Volta is my favorite current rock band, but this was probably their last album.

[speakeasy]

I just went to see Real Estate last night. One of my fav bands right now.

The band I'm most dying to see live right now is Tame Impala. Fucking love them.

[unbowed]

(03-30-2014 06:47 AM)cardguy Wrote:  

Why has rock music died over the past decade?

I think people are bored of guitars. Its like there is nothing new that can be done with rock music.

I got a buddy working in a music shop; guitars and guitar-related gadgets are not selling as much as gear/software for making electronic music. Having a band can be an expensive affair, from strings, transportation, practice space and performance space. If you're not a big name act, some venues require you sell 100 tickets before the show. I've heard of bands buying up the tickets they didn't sell because they wanted to perform so badly.

There's always going to be a niche for rock, it's just not the main contender in the music scene today. I'm very discriminating when it comes to discovering new music; I strictly search for quality as there are thousands of bands who rehash material without saying something. It doesn't help that a lot of rock guitarists are self-taught and think all you have to do is "feel the music" because "studying music kills creativity". Then you get the prog/avant garde guys who take things too far off the deep end, that it might sound good if you think about it on paper, but in practice it's total hogwash. Writing music in an original but digestible way is hard work.

I've been in a surf rock mood lately; this band's got a good groove, fun vibe and killer solo at the end: