[RouteBackwards]

(03-24-2014 07:32 PM)Screwston Wrote:  

It seems like there's no loyalty with most guys when pussy is involved. A buddy at my old job knew I was going after a girl and went behind my back to do the same thing. I don't handcuff girls but your boy shouldnt be doing that shit. Wait until I strike out then go in. I've known other guys who have done the same type of thing. No loyalty or respect. Discuss.

If I'm not actively seeing a girl, and this chick that I'm trying to game is more receptive to my boy, I have ZERO issue with him taking the reigns and getting the fuck. As it stands, if you learn about women, you'll realize they like different things about different guys, so while I may be some woman's cup of tea, I'm not delusional enough to think I'm EVERY woman's cup of tea; which means if my friend gets more ground with a girl then I do, I do not hate at all, good for him.

However, one thing I hate is my boys who are just negative because they're insecure with their own pick up abilities. I've gotten into few heated confrontations, but when I do with friends, it's over my friends who have sabotaged or simply hated on me approaching women because they're too scared to do it themselves. Why be so negative? Even if I crash and burn, why the fuck do you sit there and go "LOOK YOU FUCKED UP! HAHAHA YOU NEVER HAD A CHANCE." That is not a friend, that is a cocksucker, and I'll call you out for it. Conversely, if my friends approach and fail miserably, I always give positive reinforcement and remind them it takes balls to do that, no reason to shoot someone down for trying.

Otherwise, like I said, if my boys gain more traction with one of my 'targets' then I do, I do not hate, I let them take it because as far as I'm concerned, most of my experiences have shown, no matter what people around me do, if a girl is digging me, she'll stick around with me, and if she's not, she'll move on.

[Comte De St. Germain]

^clearly don't get it do you. When you have a girl around your finger and someone you've talked too and befriended suddenly tried to aim for her. That is low.

[RouteBackwards]

(03-25-2014 07:09 PM)hwuzhere Wrote:  

^clearly don't get it do you. When you have a girl around your finger and someone you've talked too and befriended suddenly tried to aim for her. That is low.

Then those are not friends at all.

[Comte De St. Germain]

Think that's the topic at hand. Screwston told me the backstory to the post.

[BiggNastee]

(03-25-2014 07:09 PM)hwuzhere Wrote:  

^clearly don't get it do you. When you have a girl around your finger and someone you've talked too and befriended suddenly tried to aim for her. That is low.

Did he bang her? Cuz if not the friend did nothing wrong

[Comte De St. Germain]

Better if he tells the story of his own will. I don't like giving out other people's personal situations.

[Mabina]

reminds me of my roommate in college, he used to work on these girls all semester and then his 'best friend' would come home on break and bang them lol, happened every break, poor guy

[Santoro]

This is especially common in college and graduate school social circles.

Mainly it's desperate guys badmouthing the guys who actually get laid.

Which keeps things exactly how they are

[Ingocnito]

The only time I sidestep a friend is when blatant evidence has been presented to him that this girl you're fucking is a whore, and a moron could see it a mile away. Selective intellect is b.s.

She's likely gonna make her rounds and bang half of us or more then be gone in from the whole group in 4-8 months. So be it.

When a slut is that obvious, where no explanation should be needed, it becomes the fault of the intentionally blind beta, not the guy swoopin ass.

I had an incident occur where I realized there was 1 guy in a particular social circle I have who refused to be conversational with me, very short, but polite, and abrupt in our encounters.

Today I realized what his deal was. He's been watching me hit on about 3-4 girls regularly, taking note of it, and swooped in on a chick I was about to close who he must have been after too. I think he probably won her attention because I wasn't on my toes, and the pressure of my competition forced his game to speed up. Never hesitate. Lesson learned.

I'll give him that HE created the competition with himself and I, and knew to not buddy up with me if we were after the same girl. Funny though, how you can spot it goin down when you're buddies with everyone in a group except 1-2 people. There's always a reason for that.

[tommy85]

(03-25-2014 09:32 AM)MY DETROIT PLAYAS Wrote:  

Jealousy is a weak emotion

this

(03-25-2014 07:09 PM)hwuzhere Wrote:  

^clearly don't get it do you. When you have a girl around your finger and someone you've talked too and befriended suddenly tried to aim for her. That is low.

well i guess she wasnt really that around your finger, huh??


jealousy is a female trait. all guys are trying to bone your girl, either be the better catch or get the fuck over it

[TonySandos]

(03-25-2014 05:23 PM)Walderschmidt Wrote:  

This is why I don't want women in the military. Destroys the fraternal bond between men that combat forges and gets men killed because they're busy competing for pussy instead of fighting to stay alive.

Wald

seen this shit with my own eyes, but it's illegal to say.

I hate irony

[Comte De St. Germain]

(03-26-2014 01:23 AM)tommy85 Wrote:  

(03-25-2014 09:32 AM)MY DETROIT PLAYAS Wrote:  

Jealousy is a weak emotion

this

(03-25-2014 07:09 PM)hwuzhere Wrote:  

^clearly don't get it do you. When you have a girl around your finger and someone you've talked too and befriended suddenly tried to aim for her. That is low.

well i guess she wasnt really that around your finger, huh??


jealousy is a female trait. all guys are trying to bone your girl, either be the better catch or get the fuck over it

Well obviously the guy most likely failed if I found out that easily. >_>. The fact that someone you don't expect this from who used you as a stepping stone to get with something you earned is why it is found unfavorable. A friend is a comrade in arms, and if your comrade in arms steals your ammo while on the frontline or my ration of food or even the medals of the result of conflict(no matter how worthless they may be). Is that not bad? When you act like a crab in a bucket pedestalizing a woman by fighting over it with your brother you are part of the problem for not seeking out your own. This is one reason why we believe in the law of abundance whilst being red pill.
TL;DR: it isn't jealousy but lack of mutual respect. The other man on the other hand is jealous for attempting to take my spoils and disrespecting me in the process.

[Parlay44]

You guys aren't getting it. Fuck buddies are not girlfriends. Stop getting all whipped up on them emotionally as if they are a girlfriend. You have no claim to them. They're sluts and sluts are there to get fucked. Be it by you, your friend or one of the other 10 guys she's banging that you don't know about. Christ.

If you're fucking a girl that your friend has fucked it's your obligation to tell him and his to tell you. Non disclosure is the crime here.

[Comte De St. Germain]

I agree with the above though. If he asks me to help him hook up with her I would be more than happy, but don't go behind my back and use me as a stepping stone. Or if you do at least tell me before I hear from the girl how bad your game was or if I hear from somebody else that you are fucking her. Deception is the only felony. As you can see I don't like being used.

[The Beast1]

(03-26-2014 06:51 AM)Parlay44 Wrote:  

You guys aren't getting it. Fuck buddies are not girlfriends. Stop getting all whipped up on them emotionally as if they are a girlfriend. You have no claim to them. They're sluts and sluts are there to get fucked. Be it by you, your friend or one of the other 10 guys she's banging that you don't know about. Christ.

If you're fucking a girl that your friend has fucked it's your obligation to tell him and his to tell you. Non disclosure is the crime here.

This I have no problem with. Unless there is an explicit guarantee of monogamy then alls fair in love and war.

Although as of late, I have found myself getting disgusted with these types of girls.

[tommy85]

(03-26-2014 06:07 AM)hwuzhere Wrote:  

(03-26-2014 01:23 AM)tommy85 Wrote:  

(03-25-2014 09:32 AM)MY DETROIT PLAYAS Wrote:  

Jealousy is a weak emotion

this

(03-25-2014 07:09 PM)hwuzhere Wrote:  

^clearly don't get it do you. When you have a girl around your finger and someone you've talked too and befriended suddenly tried to aim for her. That is low.

well i guess she wasnt really that around your finger, huh??


jealousy is a female trait. all guys are trying to bone your girl, either be the better catch or get the fuck over it

Well obviously the guy most likely failed if I found out that easily. >_>. The fact that someone you don't expect this from who used you as a stepping stone to get with something you earned is why it is found unfavorable. A friend is a comrade in arms, and if your comrade in arms steals your ammo while on the frontline or my ration of food or even the medals of the result of conflict(no matter how worthless they may be). Is that not bad? When you act like a crab in a bucket pedestalizing a woman by fighting over it with your brother you are part of the problem for not seeking out your own. This is one reason why we believe in the law of abundance whilst being red pill.
TL;DR: it isn't jealousy but lack of mutual respect. The other man on the other hand is jealous for attempting to take my spoils and disrespecting me in the process.

what makes her "yours"? are you two married, or in a serious monogamous relationship?


People try and take my chicks alllll the tiiiiime. good friends of mine too, no big deal

you want people to play by your rules instead of getting better at the game

[Comte De St. Germain]

My spoils my trophy. You don't take another man's gold medal especially by going into his house and stealing it behind his back. Sure a bro could ask me if he could look at(use the woman) but you don't use him to get to her. If you had real game you would find yourself someone as good or you tell your bro you are gonna bang her or are banging her. You don't use your bro to game said chick. The fact that you needed DHV by using your friend makes you the jealous fuck. And she isn't mine, and I could give less of a damn if she's banging dudes behind my back(which girl isn't these days), but someone like my friend isn't going to use me to get himself some.
As I said in my last comment I don't like being used by people who call me a friend especially for money and women.

[AneroidOcean]

(03-26-2014 04:35 PM)hwuzhere Wrote:  

My spoils my trophy. You don't take another man's gold medal especially by going into his house and stealing it behind his back. Sure a bro could ask me if he could look at(use the woman) but you don't use him to get to her. If you had real game you would find yourself someone as good or you tell your bro you are gonna bang her or are banging her. You don't use your bro to game said chick. The fact that you needed DHV by using your friend makes you the jealous fuck. And she isn't mine, and I could give less of a damn if she's banging dudes behind my back(which girl isn't these days), but someone like my friend isn't going to use me to get himself some.
As I said in my last comment I don't like being used by people who call me a friend especially for money and women.

I "still" don't see an explanation in this thread that shows that any of the guys in question were actually "good friends."

If a guy you sort of know or are sort of friends with goes behind your back to fuck a chick you're exclusive with (or in some way clearly serious about) then why are you surprised?

I swear, next you guys are going to be pissed off that some dude you hung out with and played xbox with twice hollered at some girl you banged a couple times and then couldn't get to return your calls.

If you turn your back and expect a bunch of guyswho haven't proven to be truly loyal to you, to be loyal to you, you're going to get "backstabbed."

Maybe I'm missing something big here, but it sounds like you're expectations are way higher than actions have supported.

Someone once said that "the woman chooses" and that's true. They choose who they fuck as the arbiters of sex. Men, as the arbiters of commitment can put their best show forward, but if the woman doesn't choose them they really have nobody to blame. It sounds like you guys are looking for someone to blame when in reality you shouldn't be so easily trusting.

[Comte De St. Germain]

Missing the point entirely. I don't care if she fucks him. I do not give a damn actually, but don't use me as the connection to get into her pants. I've had a couple of girls I've slept with tell me about the "creepy" guy who I apparently know(hung out with or talked too) that was trying to flirt with her(trying too hard to get into her pants). I've yet to see a guy I know actually do it successfully, but I'm saying don't go out behind my back and knowing me as a means to fuck a girl.
In my very first original comment, I even stated I would sleep with another man's woman(gf or fuckbuddg) if I did not respect them.

[TonySandos]

I don't think that's the case at all.


You can be somewhat friends and expect anything from them.

On the other hand, two or more men decide for some reason to make a verbal agreement amongst friends that is understood to have a trajectory of greater loyalty. There is a mutual understanding to watch each others backs or similar request, spoken or unspoken. Loyalty is a bigger factor than usual male interactions.

-You may verbalize to others and act in parallel to this new alliance. It's an agreement that's understood you both come out stronger because of numbers and combined talents. In such a situation where you ally appears to break loyalty, especially if others are made aware of it before yourself, it makes you and your group look vulnerable. Mostly the person "out of the loop" that was supposed to be "in the loop" is framed to look like they make bad decisions and possibly weaker than previously accepted.

I can understand how resentment comes out of this. It's the same as those friend who howls and broadcasts your failures to others well beyond any initial hazing stage that bonding starts out as. Those guys are the player haters when you don't score or anti-hype men when you loss a fight/don't get the job/loss money.

Some of these behaviors are good when they're coupled as the initial stage of tough love, but on their own the person is simply a leech. You're a detriment to your group because you don't bring positive factors to the team, just negative.

[Comte De St. Germain]

(03-26-2014 06:00 PM)TonySandos Wrote:  

I don't think that's the case at all.


You can be somewhat friends and expect anything from them.

On the other hand, two or more men decide for some reason to make a verbal agreement amongst friends that is understood to have a trajectory of greater loyalty. There is a mutual understanding to watch each others backs or similar request, spoken or unspoken. Loyalty is a bigger factor than usual male interactions.

-You may verbalize to others and act in parallel to this new alliance. It's an agreement that's understood you both come out stronger because of numbers and combined talents. In such a situation where you ally appears to break loyalty, especially if others are made aware of it before yourself, it makes you and your group look vulnerable. Mostly the person "out of the loop" that was supposed to be "in the loop" is framed to look like they make bad decisions and possibly weaker than previously accepted.

I can understand how resentment comes out of this. It's the same as those friend who howls and broadcasts your failures to others well beyond any initial hazing stage that bonding starts out as. Those guys are the player haters when you don't score or anti-hype men when you loss a fight/don't get the job/loss money.

Some of these behaviors are good when they're coupled as the initial stage of tough love, but on their own the person is simply a leech. You're a detriment to your group because you don't bring positive factors to the team, just negative.

The kind of backstabbing here I've met from a different angle that wasn't related to women. This is the worst, and not by any means good behavior. I've yet to see it in the sense of fucking a woman I'm fucking without permission(a rule for all my wingman that I establish and mentioned earlier is that you tell a guy before you fuck the woman he got as it is a fair request that goes with the pat on the back and mentioning what a sweet pair of tits those are or ass).
Edit: didn't mean requesting but sort of like a forward statement that you are planning too/are.

[Incognito]

Unfortunately, even the guys you used to chill with since you were young do snitch you for girls. Girls are put on a pedestal on a level where our brothers just snitch eachother for the puss. It's sad.

It happened to me a couple of times. Guys who I knew for 6 years have snitched me on me for a girl. Every guy who did it to me I no longer talk to.

[Screwston]

Most guys will fuck you over for a shot at pussy. I don't know if its because of the rough dating scene in America or what but it is what it is. I wish I knew moreguys who realized they have billions of women in the world to choose from, but I have to keep pussy away from us while were together until I meet more red pill dudes.

[Screwston]

I can't comprehend throwing someone you're cool with under the bus for a shot at some sex. I've never been like that, even when I was clueless about how everything works. Fucking guys are desperate.

[Samseau]

(03-27-2014 10:31 PM)Screwston Wrote:  

I can't comprehend throwing someone you're cool with under the bus for a shot at some sex. I've never been like that, even when I was clueless about how everything works. Fucking guys are desperate.

It depends on how cool you are with them. I think your mistake may have been placing too much trust in shady individuals