[Avarence]

Come on, man. That garbage reads like satire.

[Vacancier Permanent]

Actually, I also think that the excellent article MidnightSpecial posted to be far from being loony. Knowing the track record of the US government and its "special ally", couple that with the US media being nothing but a glorified propaganda machine of the US government, I definitely wouldnt put this past them....

[iknowexactly]

(03-28-2014 02:51 PM)MidniteSpecial Wrote:  

The articles at the top of the site are more conspiracy theory oriented yes.

But after those on the bottom they post a lot of good links to mainstream articles.

That story is more believable to me than all the other bs though.

I absolutely LOVE conspiracy theory, the more far-fetched the better.I TOTALLY love this one.

You know, small meteor theory, or giant hailstone theory is starting to sound like a relative possibility.

Smashes into cockpit, incapacitating both pilots and making the cabin impossible to survive in. Plane on auto-pilot flies to a crash.

[T and A Man]

The "some illicit cargo onboard the plane" does make sense.

If you diverted the plane and landed it somewhere... someone will now, someone will see. Those who were meant to receive the cargo will chase the ends of the earth for it.

What you do is ensure you put it at the bottom of the ocean, and damn all the collateral damage.

[cardguy]

Quote:

Aishah Zaharie, 28, the pilot’s daughter, said that in her last conversations with her father, she barely recognised the man who used to dote on her. ‘He wasn’t the father I knew. He seemed disturbed and lost in a world of his own,’ she said.

Last week, Faizah and Aishah, along with other family members, were interviewed in detail by police in Kuala Lumpur. The lengthy interviews, described in detail to The Mail on Sunday by a source close to the pilot’s family, revealed that:

• Zaharie was on the brink of divorcing his wife after nearly 30 years of marriage.

• He refused to attend marriage counselling with Islamic elders.

• He shunned family and spent hours alone on his flight simulator.

• He expressed ‘utter frustration’ at the jailing of his political hero, Anwar Ibrahim, hours before the flight.

[iknowexactly]

(03-30-2014 06:42 AM)cardguy Wrote:  

Aishah Zaharie, 28, the pilot’s daughter, said that in her last conversations with her father, she barely recognised the man who used to dote on her. ‘He wasn’t the father I knew. He seemed disturbed and lost in a world of his own,’ she said.

When I saw that twisted, one sided smile on the elder pilot in the initial pictures of the pilots, I thought to myself "If there was a mentally ill pilot involved, it was that one." Something really off about that smile. It looks like a very angry, yet tightly controlled smile to me.

It's a tough situation finding out from the widow why they were getting divorced.

She probably feels like hell if she believes she was married to a mass murderer but still doesn't want to say anything bad about him. May have seen he was cracking up and feels guilty.

This article says divorce rate in Malaysia is about 18%, so it seems a little unusual, especially when the man has a high status job like that?
http://poobalan.com/blog/others/2013/12/...2008-2012/

What exactly caused the divorce?

[cardguy]

How would a pilot overpower a co-pilot into downing a plane?

Maybe the co-pilot was on a break or asleep?

[iknowexactly]

(03-30-2014 06:59 AM)cardguy Wrote:  

How would a pilot overpower a co-pilot into downing a plane?

Maybe the co-pilot was on a break or asleep?

In a total surprise attack you could easily disable someone , or drug their coffee etc. This guy was hiding things from everyone if he indeed did it--his daughter, his wife, people who he could have gotten counseling from .

Psychotherapy is primarily a First World phenomenon, in poorer countries the shame on families if there is mental illness is too great for them to seek treatment. They can literally hide a crazy aunt to protect family reputation.

[big poppa]

I think it was controlled remotely and that Shah was in on it. Possibly they were all asphyxiated when the plane climbed to 45,000 feet. It was then flown to the most remote location it could reach within 7 hours so the black box could not be found

[Sp5]

I'm sick of the non-stop coverage of nothing on CNN - "Oh, they saw some floating objects!" Endless profiles of the crew and passengers to hide the fact that nobody knows what happened.

Especially with more important things like Ukraine and Turkey going on.

They had the Turkish national security council on tape planning a false-flag attack to start a war on Syria last week and it got almost no attention.

[samsamsam]

Small little update. Looks like the last words on the flight was not 'Alright, goodnight.' It was 'Goodnight Malaysian three seven zero'. Which is creepy.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...night.html

[MidniteSpecial]

Yo check this crazy ass article out: http://intellihub.com/freelance-journali...go-garcia/

[RexImperator]

I had the thought this could be the first sabotage of a plane via computer virus. Similar to how Stuxnet was used against Iran. This may not actually be possible yet, but it would make a good story...

[LeBeau]

(03-30-2014 09:13 PM)Sp5 Wrote:  

I'm sick of the non-stop coverage of nothing on CNN - "Oh, they saw some floating objects!" Endless profiles of the crew and passengers to hide the fact that nobody knows what happened.

Especially with more important things like Ukraine and Turkey going on.

They had the Turkish national security council on tape planning a false-flag attack to start a war on Syria last week and it got almost no attention.

This.

I joked with a family member at the start of this that "knowing CNN, they will probably build a fully functional Holodeck to explore evidence if this drags on too long"

Now I see people standing on top of virtual reality maps with 3d arrows running all over the place, with no actual increase in knowledge.

[samsamsam]

I think this is what happens when the basic needs of food, water and shelter are met...

[Vacancier Permanent]

Very thought provoking article MidnightS! Keep'em coming!

Let's play along with it:
If the plane is in DG, and the passengers held hostage, what will happen to them? That is provided they haven't been killed already one way or anther during the operation and or since then? In case they are still alive, will they be ever released? Or coldly executed or left to starve?

But most importantly, WHY? Why would the plane go to a US base? Were there any "undesirable" people on that plane? Or highly valuable yet dangerous material on board? Some reports were hinting that it may have contained a large quantity of highly radioactive material to be delivered to China, which the US didn't want.

Could this be it?

So many questions, so few answers...

(03-31-2014 10:54 PM)MidniteSpecial Wrote:  

Yo check this crazy ass article out: http://intellihub.com/freelance-journali...go-garcia/

[Yatagan]

I have to wonder if a lot of the "floating objects" they report aren't just random bits of ocean trash.

[Cattle Rustler]

So much hamster spinning here......

Could it be ET?
Could it be the US Gov't?
Could it be a virus?
Could it be terrorists?

We will never know until we find the plane, so we can only wait.

Not to mention, the most obvious thing is....the plane was flown to DC, a cargo shipment was delivered to Barrack HUSSEIN Obama and the passengers were to be used as practice dummies by PUAs in their annual PUA gathering.

[Chaos]

This mess reminds me of the so called execution of Usama Bin Laden.
- Show us the body, or people continue to make other theories.

Same thing with this Malesian flight or floating parts.
- Show us evidence of the goddamn plane. Or nobody will believe it crashed into the ocean.

It's smells rotten fish here from a long way.
Something has been covered up.

[Avarence]

(04-01-2014 03:06 AM)Chaos Wrote:  

This mess reminds me of the so called execution of Usama Bin Laden.
- Show us the body, or people continue to make other theories.

Same thing with this Malesian flight or floating parts.
- Show us evidence of the goddamn plane. Or nobody will believe it crashed into the ocean.

It's smells rotten fish here from a long way.
Something has been covered up.

Nothing's been covered up. They are still looking for it.
The satellite data shows it must have ended up in the ocean. Doesn't mean they found wreckage.

[Mentavious]

Delete

[Mentavious]

(07-17-2014 10:51 AM)Mentavious Wrote:  

Another flight goes down???


Excuse me...reportedly it was shot down

[Cr33pin]

Fuck this shit. This is kind of out of control if people are shooting down commercial planes........

[TheBulldozer]

Oh jesus. Reports say the Ukrainian defense shot it down.

Incredible.

[samsamsam]

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/201...heory.html

Partial of the article - really big article. The guy thinks of some crazy theories.

Quote:

The unsettling oddness was there from the first moment, on March 8, when Malaysia Airlines announced that a plane from Kuala Lumpur bound for Beijing, Flight 370, had disappeared over the South China Sea in the middle of the night. There had been no bad weather, no distress call, no wreckage, no eyewitness accounts of a fireball in the sky—just a plane that said good-bye to one air-traffic controller and, two minutes later, failed to say hello to the next. And the crash, if it was a crash, got stranger from there.

My yearlong detour to Planet MH370 began two days later, when I got an email from an editor at Slate asking if I’d write about the incident. I’m a private pilot and science writer, and I wrote about the last big mysterious crash, of Air France 447 in 2009. My story ran on the 12th. The following morning, I was invited to go on CNN. Soon, I was on-air up to six times a day as part of its nonstop MH370 coverage.

There was no intro course on how to be a cable-news expert. The Town Car would show up to take me to the studio, I’d sign in with reception, a guest-greeter would take me to makeup, I’d hang out in the greenroom, the sound guy would rig me with a mike and an earpiece, a producer would lead me onto the set, I’d plug in and sit in the seat, a producer would tell me what camera to look at during the introduction, we’d come back from break, the anchor would read the introduction to the story and then ask me a question or maybe two, I’d answer, then we’d go to break, I would unplug, wipe off my makeup, and take the car 43 blocks back uptown. Then a couple of hours later, I’d do it again. I was spending 18 hours a day doing six minutes of talking.

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As time went by, CNN winnowed its expert pool down to a dozen or so regulars who earned the on-air title “CNN aviation analysts”: airline pilots, ex-government honchos, aviation lawyers, and me. We were paid by the week, with the length of our contracts dependent on how long the story seemed likely to play out. The first couple were seven-day, the next few were 14-day, and the last one was a month. We’d appear solo, or in pairs, or in larger groups for panel discussions—whatever it took to vary the rhythm of perpetual chatter.1

I soon realized the germ of every TV-news segment is: “Officials say X.” The validity of the story derives from the authority of the source. The expert, such as myself, is on hand to add dimension or clarity. Truth flowed one way: from the official source, through the anchor, past the expert, and onward into the great sea of viewerdom.

What made MH370 challenging to cover was, first, that the event was unprecedented and technically complex and, second, that the officials were remarkably untrustworthy. For instance, the search started over the South China Sea, naturally enough, but soon after, Malaysia opened up a new search area in the Andaman Sea, 400 miles away. Why? Rumors swirled that military radar had seen the plane pull a 180. The Malaysian government explicitly denied it, but after a week of letting other countries search the South China Sea, the officials admitted that they’d known about the U-turn from day one.

Of course, nothing turned up in the Andaman Sea, either. But in London, scientists for a British company called Inmarsat that provides telecommunications between ships and aircraft realized its database contained records of transmissions between MH370 and one of its satellites for the seven hours after the plane’s main communication system shut down. Seven hours! Maybe it wasn’t a crash after all—if it were, it would have been the slowest in history.


These electronic “handshakes” or “pings” contained no actual information, but by analyzing the delay between the transmission and reception of the signal— called the burst timing offset, or BTO—Inmarsat could tell how far the plane had been from the satellite and thereby plot an arc along which the plane must have been at the moment of the final ping.Fig. 3 That arc stretched some 6,000 miles, but if the plane was traveling at normal airliner speeds, it would most likely have wound up around the ends of the arc—either in Kazakhstan and China in the north or the Indian Ocean in the south. My money was on Central Asia. But CNN quoted unnamed U.S.-government sources saying that the plane had probably gone south, so that became the dominant view.

Other views were circulating, too, however.Fig. 5 A Canadian pilot named Chris Goodfellow went viral with his theory that MH370 suffered a fire that knocked out its communications gear and diverted from its planned route in order to attempt an emergency landing. Keith Ledgerwood, another pilot, proposed that hijackers had taken the plane and avoided detection by ducking into the radar shadow of another airliner. Amateur investigators pored over satellite images, insisting that wisps of cloud or patches of shrubbery were the lost plane. Courtney Love, posting on her Facebook time line a picture of the shimmering blue sea, wrote: “I’m no expert but up close this does look like a plane and an oil slick.”Fig. 6


Fig. 6.
Then: breaking news! On March 24, the Malaysian prime minister, Najib Razak, announced that a new kind of mathematical analysis proved that the plane had in fact gone south. This new math involved another aspect of the handshakes called the burst frequency offset, or BFO, a measure of changes in the signal’s wavelength, which is partly determined by the relative motion of the airplane and the satellite. That the whole southern arc lay over the Indian Ocean meant that all the passengers and crew would certainly be dead by now. This was the first time in history that the families of missing passengers had been asked to accept that their loved ones were dead because a secret math equation said so. Fig. 7 Not all took it well. In Beijing, outraged next-of-kin marched to the Malaysian Embassy, where they hurled water bottles and faced down paramilitary soldiers in riot gear.


Fig. 7. Making matters worse, the Malaysians informed some of the passengers by text message.
Guided by Inmarsat’s calculations, Australia, which was coordinating the investigation, moved the search area 685 miles to the northeast, to a 123,000-square-mile patch of ocean west of Perth. Ships and planes found much debris on the surface, provoking a frenzy of BREAKING NEWS banners, but all turned out to be junk. Adding to the drama was a ticking clock. The plane’s two black boxes had an ultrasonic sound beacon that sent out acoustic signals through the water. (Confusingly, these also were referred to as “pings,” though of a completely different nature. These new pings suddenly became the important ones.) If searchers could spot plane debris, they’d be able to figure out where the plane had most likely gone down, then trawl with underwater microphones to listen for the pings. The problem was that the pingers had a battery life of only 30 days.

On April 4, with only a few days’ pinger life remaining, an Australian ship lowered a special microphone called a towed pinger locator into the water.Fig. 8 Miraculously, the ship detected four pings. Search officials were jubilant, as was the CNN greenroom. Everyone was ready for an upbeat ending.


Fig. 8. Photo: Government of Malaysia
The only Debbie Downer was me. I pointed out that the pings were at the wrong frequency and too far apart to have been generated by stationary black boxes. For the next two weeks, I was the odd man out on Don Lemon’s six-guest panel blocks, gleefully savaged on-air by my co-experts.

The Australians lowered an underwater robotFig. 9 to scan the seabed for the source of the pings. There was nothing. Of course, by the rules of TV news, the game wasn’t over until an official said so. But things were stretching thin. One night, an underwater-search veteran taking part in a Don Lemon panel agreed with me that the so-called acoustic-ping detections had to be false. Backstage after the show, he and another aviation analyst nearly came to blows. “You don’t know what you’re talking about! I’ve done extensive research!” the analyst shouted. “There’s nothing else those pings could be!”

Soon after, the story ended the way most news stories do: We just stopped talking about it. A month later, long after the caravan had moved on, a U.S. Navy officer said publicly that the pings had not come from MH370. The saga fizzled out with as much satisfying closure as the final episode of Lost.

More at this link http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/201...heory.html