[SpecialEd]

(02-21-2014 04:03 PM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  

By and large it is a question of degustibus as well.There are certain Germanic women lovers who sacrifice on German women and there are die hard slavophiles.Taste has a lot to do with it(eg guys prefering the symmetric noses of Germanic women or their thinner lips or their body structure even.However guys paying attention to fuller lips,asses,breasts and slender legs will unavoidably gravitate towards slavic women).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_gustibus...isputandum

The beauty usually promoted by Hollywood is the usual Germanic beauty since Germans and English were the largest and most affluent minority groups in US.The same most models are of Germanic origin since the audience for expensive clothes cannot identify itself with slavic women appearance.

I think this is why so many models come from the former Czechoslovakia. The women have slavic bodies without an overly slavic face due to the German influence. Best of both worlds, imho.

[Greek kamaki]

(02-22-2014 03:07 PM)SpecialEd Wrote:  

(02-21-2014 04:03 PM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  

By and large it is a question of degustibus as well.There are certain Germanic women lovers who sacrifice on German women and there are die hard slavophiles.Taste has a lot to do with it(eg guys prefering the symmetric noses of Germanic women or their thinner lips or their body structure even.However guys paying attention to fuller lips,asses,breasts and slender legs will unavoidably gravitate towards slavic women).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_gustibus...isputandum

The beauty usually promoted by Hollywood is the usual Germanic beauty since Germans and English were the largest and most affluent minority groups in US.The same most models are of Germanic origin since the audience for expensive clothes cannot identify itself with slavic women appearance.

I think this is why so many models come from the former Czechoslovakia. The women have slavic bodies without an overly slavic face due to the German influence. Best of both worlds, imho.

I agree.Although there are differences between Moravan and Bohemian phenotype,the classic Czech beauty does not have elongated nose,mouse eyes,thin hair or round chin as polish women tend to do.On the other hand she possesses extra large breasts which comfortably antagonize the polish melons and very noteworthy ass again in line with the polish plump ass.So in general Czech are top of the top a constant source of admiration and a nation used by Germans for some beauty genes import.
Legs as in the whole slavic world are stratospheric and easily make you forget the Germanic extra fat or extra thin aka stork legs.
What Czech girls do not have are the common thick BJ lips of Russian and polish women they possess the more strict Germanic lip design although not to the same level of thinness uselessness.Eyes are big and have the green colours of the Eastern European valleys.Generally a comfort zone for the Balkan rider.

[shotgun]

(02-21-2014 12:37 AM)Sourcecode Wrote:  

Are you sure you were in Germany? You're quoting an ROK article thats full of filler bullshit, opinion and hype to get views and cause drama

Yes, I'm sure I was in Germany. I've also met several German women while in Europe, and for a reason I will not disclose here, I have been exposed to German people from a very young age. I've quoted that sentence in the article because it matches my experience. I won't comment on the remainder of the article because it was written from an expat view, and I've never lived in Germany.

Btw, I never wanted to paint a bleak picture of Germany. I'm sure it's a great place to live (safe, excellent infra-structure), and Germans also make great long term friends. But I definitely can't recommend it for gaming purposes.

Actually, you should be happy that you have found your poosy paradise in a place that has very small competition from guys on this forum. There's a lot of variance in experiences - You kill it in Germany and other guys don't. On the other hand, the same guys may kill it in Russia and you may not. No need to attack these guys saying that they are losers who can't get laid anywhere or can't make friends. Also, no need to judge someone else's reasons for travelling.

[Greek kamaki]

(02-22-2014 12:13 PM)SpecialEd Wrote:  

German women(and Austrian) are the only women I have encountered more lacking in femininity than American women. It's not just fashion, they don't know how to interact with a man. It's no wonder the country's dying off.

It is not dying off.I see a lot of children around.There are many men you cannot imagine how many who like the German women and their appearance.
Slavic populations on the other hand are in steady decline and you notice this ASAP.

[loveblondes]

(02-21-2014 04:03 PM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  

By and large it is a question of degustibus as well.There are certain Germanic women lovers who sacrifice on German women and there are die hard slavophiles.Taste has a lot to do with it(eg guys prefering the symmetric noses of Germanic women or their thinner lips or their body structure even.However guys paying attention to fuller lips,asses,breasts and slender legs will unavoidably gravitate towards slavic women).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_gustibus...isputandum

The beauty usually promoted by Hollywood is the usual Germanic beauty since Germans and English were the largest and most affluent minority groups in US.The same most models are of Germanic origin since the audience for expensive clothes cannot identify itself with slavic women appearance.

Anglo women (US,UK, Canada, Australia) dont look like germanic women in my experience, (scandinavian, dutch, german, austrian, etc) or are not too close to them to be put on the same category, they are as far apart in regards of looks as comparing eastern european women to german women. I think the most common look for anglo women is rusty brown or even dark brown hair (when not dyed) with hazed or mixed eye color and medium height, and tendency to be fatter and rounder. Germanic women have more extreme features, as naturally (golden/light) blonde hair, taller/slender and more angular features, sharper noses, etc. A lot of white americans have rounder noses and facial features which you dont see often among german , dutch and the likes.

[Booyah]

Anglo women have the worst quality in Europe but in the other hand, they're kinda slutty.

[loveblondes]

(02-21-2014 01:16 AM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  

(02-20-2014 06:13 PM)BoiBoi Wrote:  

As a native, I can say that the pics posted by Source are a good representation of the average German 6-7. I'm into black girls and hence, blondes are not my cup of tea in particular, but I'd still bang most of the girls he posted.

This is the difference. If you come from slavic countries or the Balkans the quality of girls in the pics is unacceptable.

Depends of the tastes, if you like the tall blonds like me you would go to Germany in a hearbeat compared to going to places like bulgaria or romania.

[Sargon of Akkad]

It's very interesting to look around you to observe the crowd in a German club and a non-German club throughout any given night.

In a non-German club, groups are very loose and they tend to mix and intermingle a lot. People will typically start dancing, laughing and bantering with random strangers.

In a typical German club, the groups will remain tightly locked throughout the entire night, kind of like there's an invisible fence around them, and (usually) the only time you see different circles interacting is when it's clear that someone already knows the other...or possibly when a fight breaks out. Come to think of it, I've seen far more strangers get into fights than I've seen strangers making out or hooking up (which is not to say fights are any more common there than elsewhere). Of course there are always exceptions.

As said before, for 99+% of Germans go to a club exclusively to drink, dance, listen to music and hang out with their friends. Going there with the specific intent to hookup for the night is an entirely foreign concept for most.

[Sargon of Akkad]

(02-22-2014 06:22 PM)loveblondes Wrote:  

Depends of the tastes, if you like the tall blonds like me you would go to Germany in a hearbeat compared to going to places like bulgaria or romania.

Quote:

Germanic women have more extreme features, as naturally (golden/light) blonde hair, taller/slender and more angular features, sharper noses, etc.

Actually, most people you meet in Germany are not natural blonds. The majority of people have more light brown hair.

[Booyah]

Actually, there are more black hair girls than you can imagine, due to Turkish people living there.

[Greek kamaki]

Actually Germanic phenotype is not so homogenous.There are at least four variations(Bavarian,nordic,Prussian,Rheinland) and many mixes in between.Nordics in Hamburg look more like Dutch and Scandinavian while Bavarians carry resemblance to central European look and Austrians.German women appearance differs considerably from city to city with the highest quality being in university towns(Heidelberg etc).

[Hispanic_Reasoning]

(02-22-2014 01:58 PM)sheesh Wrote:  

I'm therefore seriously considering moving close to the Polish/Czech border or leaving the country alltogether because for me the place sucks in terms of women.

go to any latin-american country and you would be picking up like crazy.

[Hispanic_Reasoning]

(02-22-2014 06:15 PM)Booyah Wrote:  

Anglo women have the worst quality in Europe but in the other hand, they're kinda slutty.

that's the ironic thing of them. they're the worst quality but at the same time, they're more open for ONS and all of that crap. for me, i don't like girls who are too easy like anglo because they're annoying and as many men on this forum have said, if a girl gets laid too much, she gets spoiled while the opposite for men (women age like milk while men age like fine wine).

[Greek kamaki]

Now in Stuttgart local women not so hot looking but sluttier than average German.Also many foreign women quite a few Russian and even Greek.(common Balkan kurwa style boobs out,tight jeans,high heels,peroxide blondes,asses parading).
The city really top compared to eastern Germany.

[WD-40]

(02-23-2014 11:26 AM)Hispanic_Reasoning Wrote:  

(02-22-2014 01:58 PM)sheesh Wrote:  

I'm therefore seriously considering moving close to the Polish/Czech border or leaving the country alltogether because for me the place sucks in terms of women.

go to any latin-american country and you would be picking up like crazy.

Even in Latinoamérica you still have to do something.

Girls here are not like heat seeking missiles with super chupadora labios that bust down your door of your dive apartment in some kind of huge explosion and make a beeline for the boner while you're just sitting there in your boxers guzzling Dos Equis and beating off to another boring late night rerun of Lo Que la Vida Me Robó.

But that said, I'd much rather be trying to sweet-talk a smiling señorita than a perma-frowning Fräulein.

[loveblondes]

(02-22-2014 10:36 PM)Sargon of Akkad Wrote:  

(02-22-2014 06:22 PM)loveblondes Wrote:  

Depends of the tastes, if you like the tall blonds like me you would go to Germany in a hearbeat compared to going to places like bulgaria or romania.

Quote:

Germanic women have more extreme features, as naturally (golden/light) blonde hair, taller/slender and more angular features, sharper noses, etc.

Actually, most people you meet in Germany are not natural blonds. The majority of people have more light brown.

Pretty blonde girls are commoner in germany than in most countries , and that includes the anglo countries.

for example random german students, I know they are like 17-18, but still quality is better than anglosphere..

http://www.assist-inc.org/sites/assist-i...013-14.jpg

If someone would say those students are czech nobody would raise an eyebrow, but I would never believe they are british or american, thats how unfair is to put german women on the same category than your anglo women.

[Hispanic_Reasoning]

(02-23-2014 07:23 PM)WD-40 Wrote:  

(02-23-2014 11:26 AM)Hispanic_Reasoning Wrote:  

(02-22-2014 01:58 PM)sheesh Wrote:  

I'm therefore seriously considering moving close to the Polish/Czech border or leaving the country alltogether because for me the place sucks in terms of women.

go to any latin-american country and you would be picking up like crazy.

Even in Latinoamérica you still have to do something.

Girls here are not like heat seeking missiles with super chupadora labios that bust down your door of your dive apartment in some kind of huge explosion and make a beeline for the boner while you're just sitting there in your boxers guzzling Dos Equis and beating off to another boring late night rerun of Lo Que la Vida Me Robó.

But that said, I'd much rather be trying to sweet-talk a smiling señorita than a perma-frowning Fräulein.

yes, but I see dudes who are on the lighter skinned side doing more damage in latin-am countries. of course, any man with game could still slay but just ask roosh when he was in brazil. he saw blonde dudes slaying more there than dark haired guys.

and depends who you ask on that. not all german girls are super cold. i have met who are super cool and smile, without having the emotional time bombs that latin girls have.

[WD-40]

(02-23-2014 07:48 PM)Hispanic_Reasoning Wrote:  

yes, but I see dudes who are on the lighter skinned side doing more damage in latin-am countries. of course, any man with game could still slay but just ask roosh when he was in brazil. he saw blonde dudes slaying more there than dark haired guys.

and depends who you ask on that. not all german girls are super cold. i have met who are super cool and smile, without having the emotional time bombs that latin girls have.

Sure, there are exceptions to every rule.

I will be the last person to warn a dude off of Germany if he is really cleaning up good or if he found a keeper there.

But personally, I ran out of juice for the fräuleins a couple of years ago.

This spring, I will be passing through there on a biz trip for a couple of weeks. I think it's going to be fun. After hours, I might eat some nice schnitzel dinners, go to art museums, get ballet tickets and maybe even take a little river cruise or rent a beemer and go crazy with it on the autobahn for a bit.

Notice how there was one thing I didn't mention. Why didn't I mention it? Because I get to go home after the trip is over.

[cowboy]

I really agree with Greek kamaki about the differences throughout Germany. I lived and worked in Germany for 3.5 years and it was amazing how different one city could be from another due to the geography. These differences were social and cultural (even the quality of girls). Furthermore, my friends and I had a blast in many of the smaller university towns around Southern Germany (Erlangen, Wurzburg, Regensburg, etc.). As stated Germans hang in tight groups when they go out but our experience was much more positive in Bavaria where we had a great time clubbing. The Bavarians were pretty cool. Learning the language (despite everyone speaking English) and appearing interested in the local culture and community worked great and allowed us to break into different social groups and pull girls. I saw American guys try to use the same approach they used back in the states being an aggressive alpha and dazzle people with witty remarks, jokes, etc. and the German girls would go cold and shut them down pretty quick. As previously stated it's just a different environment. Once guys made some adjustments they usually did okay.

For myself, Germany was my introduction to Europe so I thought it was pretty good. Once I went to Czech, Poland, and the Ukraine I never really looked at German girls in the same way after. Again, Germany is a great place to be introduced to Europe.

On a different note one of the most underated cities was Leipzig. As someone else mentioned on this site, Leipzig feels like what Berlin probably used to be. Some really cool clubs (Volkspalast, etc.) and university bars. Saxony also had a high percentage of stunning blondes (at least IMO).

[Akula]

(02-23-2014 07:46 PM)loveblondes Wrote:  

If someone would say those students are czech nobody would raise an eyebrow, but I would never believe they are british or american, thats how unfair is to put german women on the same category than your anglo women.

Honestly IMO nobody has done that in this forum. Take a look at my and other people's posts where we clearly state that the obesity rate and general level of attractiveness in Germany is on the whole better than in the US and UK. But that's not saying much.

So while Germany is probably better than the US or UK for sure but it's certainly no game paradise and pales in comparison to EE and Asia. It is a great country to visit and sightsee however, and in Berlin especially you've got a lot of international people around too which seems to make it a decent place to be for game (from what this thread has indicated at least).

[TheDealCloser]

There seems to be a lot of disdain for Germany with regard to pick up in this thread. Most German women are cautious and I have been shot down more times than I can remember. A lot of this comes down to you and your expectation. If you are out and looking for pussy, you probably won't get any. The outcome dependency is killing some of you that visit here. You also don't know the rules of the game here. If you are here a short time, lie to these bitches and tell them that you live here once that question comes and AND IT WILL!! Roosh gave a few good cover stories in Bang Poland that will work in Germany also.

The longer the woman thinks you will be in the country, the better your chances are for fucking. Germans like most other women don't want to feel slutty. If you're only here for the weekend, they already know that you only want their pussy. They also know that you will say anything to get it. You have already fucked up by telling her the truth. Tell them what the want to hear, not what she needs to know.

I read Bang Poland for the first time a few weeks ago and a lot of what Roosh said applies in Germany also. The funny thing is that I was doing it before reading the book. The leads me to another issue that some of you men may be having;

How many of you can critically analyze your game and the small details that lead to you getting the lay (SNL/Day2) or caused your demise with a chick? Be honest. I still have approaches go bad but I am quick to analyze situation and improve.

What about you? I mean this in a VERY general sense.

[Greek kamaki]

In Germany age plays a great role.A young,tall,muscular tanned Mediterranean has no contest.Greeks make an impression here.
I also saw quite a few Greek women in search for free dick going from shop to shop unable to get the goodies.They look at you waiting for some miracle.But we keep our bullets for the slavic hunt.

[Booyah]

because? Greek look the same as Turkish, almost impossible to distinguish them. Because of the huge emigrancy wave wouldn't call any southern europeans ''making impression''. It's not northern Europe to get a look because of being tanned/black skin.

Your're just giving some subjective informations which has nothing to the generality

[WD-40]

(02-24-2014 12:58 AM)cowboy Wrote:  

Learning the language (despite everyone speaking English) and appearing interested in the local culture and community worked great and allowed us to break into different social groups and pull girls.

IMO it is not worth learning the language unless you have other reasons for wanting to learn it.

Planning on a multi-year stay, needing to be able to speak the language for work, or wanting to read German literature are all good reasons.

However, learning the language with the primary intent of picking up Fräuleins is by and large a waste of time.

I generally get better reactions and more IOI when rolling in an English speaking group than when speaking German. Of course if a chick doesn't speak or understand any English, you will not be able to smash her without some German unless she is extremely DTF. But those are usually not the women you would want anyhow.

[Greek kamaki]

(02-24-2014 09:56 AM)Booyah Wrote:  

because? Greek look the same as Turkish, almost impossible to distinguish them. Because of the huge emigrancy wave wouldn't call any southern europeans ''making impression''. It's not northern Europe to get a look because of being tanned/black skin.

Your're just giving some subjective informations which has nothing to the generality

No,Greeks are well built.They have muscle mass which Turks and Romanians lack.Italians also do not look so strong.Anyway physical appearance is not so much appreciated in Germany otherwise Serbs would slay there.German guys look reasonably good and some are enhanced with steroids etc.
There is a 10% of German women that are exceptionally good looking but it is as far as it gets.Also largely depending on region.