[Cincinnatus]

(02-23-2014 10:31 PM)WestCoast Wrote:  

Can you break down how you think/how you think about scaling businesses/how you think about networking etc etc.

Anything along those lines would be of immense help. IE a "Life advice post" from you?

I second this request. Gringuito - you're bound to have one helluva story about life and business, and a lot of advice/insights about such a journey. We like seeing stories of success, it would be awesome if you'd give us the inside scoop as to how you've arrived (omitting any identifying details, course).

[Cincinnatus]

(02-23-2014 08:39 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  

Thanks for the like Cincinnatus but your boys are frauds and they knew it.

http://www.history.com/news/in-connectic...-in-flight

Flight comes from Elmech land

Dissenting opinions in the article you linked. The U.S. Mint ain't falling for it either.

[Gringuito]

(02-23-2014 10:31 PM)WestCoast Wrote:  

How the fuck did I miss this thread. You own a fucking Jet?

Can you break down how you think/how you think about scaling businesses/how you think about networking etc etc.

Anything along those lines would be of immense help. IE a "Life advice post" from you?

For christ sakes am i the first person to ask this? We already fucked up by not asking this to hooligan harry IDGAF about how much a jet costs i am no where near that rich (and likely never will be) damn haha.

(note this is the second time i have blatantly asked for a "life advice post" first one was from WEDO and everyone should read that one since he is another underrated gangster on this forum)

I will supplicate and listen (i'm very good at being a fake beta/omega) just lay it out would love to hear it!

I give a quick rundown on the Rags to Riches thread. I don't want to derail this thread anymore. Point me to a new thread

[WestCoast]

Ya i just read it. I guess more of a "Gringuito's life advice". Or you can post whereever even on the EE forum literally under everything else anything goes? I dunno whatever.

Anyone who owns a fucking Jet deserves their own damn area to give advice i can't believe people are even asking about the cost of a Jet if they can't afford one lol what a crazy world we live in.

Basically if you had a son (maybe you do) i dunno whatever, what advice would you give him? Don't care where it is posted i'll be watching all of your posts from now on.

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Anyway back to more information on owning a jet some shit that I will never have happen to me but i'll be aggressively refreshing RVF for Gringuito's life advice.

(side note i didnt even bother clicking it because i assumed it would be full of bullshit made up nonsense data then i see gringuitos post and spit all over my keyboard and face palmed myself when everyone was asking for actual info on owning a jet instead of asking for life advice. I guess people are just so certain they are gonna own a jet these days ... ... ... LOL! You guys all know i am messing around but seriously lets at least get one solid long form post if possible, dude is a monster if he can afford a jet.)

[CaliforniaSupreme]

Life plan:
_________
2 Years CC --> 2 Years Uni --> Medical School --> Fellowship/Residency, etc. --> Practice in an upper-level specialty --> Patent/Develop a surgical technique, etc. --> Make money--> Grow said money --> Live in luxury

_________
Side income:
Keeping clean --> Working a job--> Investments--> Saving all income--> Applying for Scholarships --> Possibly joining ROTC --> Paying off all costs/debts

_________
My goal is to get through school as quickly as possible with the least debt. That's why I'm trying to make money right now, to apply it towards costs in the foreseeable future. I'm taking it one step at a time, but purchasing a jet is an end goal representing the lifestyle of choice I am pursuing. At this age, most other people are screwing around and wasting time. Everyone tells me to "appreciate the High School experience," basically telling me to get fucked up on the daily while my body can handle it. However, I'm viewing my lackluster youth as a sacrifice towards my future.

[Hotwheels]

(02-23-2014 10:15 PM)Gringuito Wrote:  

(02-23-2014 03:37 PM)Hotwheels Wrote:  

(02-23-2014 01:12 PM)peterthephoenix Wrote:  

Don't know why any of you cats haven't posted this yet: http://www.thebillionaireshop.com/produc...gory/jets/

Cessna VII for 3.4

Good starter jet?

You normally don't pick a jet on price as much on mission. Does it handle high and hot airports (Denver in the summer). Does it hold enough passengers for your normal trips. Does it have the range you need. Is it easy to maintain and have little scheduled downtime.

I was being facetious, but interesting information none the less.

Never would have guessed flying into Denver may impact your buying decision...

[WestCoast]

(02-23-2014 11:40 PM)CaliforniaSupreme Wrote:  

Life plan:
_________
2 Years CC --> 2 Years Uni --> Medical School --> Fellowship/Residency, etc. --> Practice in an upper-level specialty --> Patent/Develop a surgical technique, etc. --> Make money--> Grow said money --> Live in luxury

_________
Side income:
Keeping clean --> Working a job--> Investments--> Saving all income--> Applying for Scholarships --> Possibly joining ROTC --> Paying off all costs/debts

_________
My goal is to get through school as quickly as possible with the least debt. That's why I'm trying to make money right now, to apply it towards costs in the foreseeable future. I'm taking it one step at a time, but purchasing a jet is an end goal representing the lifestyle of choice I am pursuing. At this age, most other people are screwing around and wasting time. Everyone tells me to "appreciate the High School experience," basically telling me to get fucked up on the daily while my body can handle it. However, I'm viewing my lackluster youth as a sacrifice towards my future.

If this is your plan here are the chances of you ever accumulating enough money to own a jet

zero percent

The only way to real wealth is owning a company and that's not even in your plans until based on your guidelines you are well past 30+.

Think bigger much much much much bigger.

I have only met in person 2 people who own a jet in my entire life. Want to guess their title? Chief Executive Officer.

[CaliforniaSupreme]

(02-23-2014 11:47 PM)WestCoast Wrote:  

(02-23-2014 11:40 PM)CaliforniaSupreme Wrote:  

Life plan:
_________
2 Years CC --> 2 Years Uni --> Medical School --> Fellowship/Residency, etc. --> Practice in an upper-level specialty --> Patent/Develop a surgical technique, etc. --> Make money--> Grow said money --> Live in luxury

_________
Side income:
Keeping clean --> Working a job--> Investments--> Saving all income--> Applying for Scholarships --> Possibly joining ROTC --> Paying off all costs/debts

_________
My goal is to get through school as quickly as possible with the least debt. That's why I'm trying to make money right now, to apply it towards costs in the foreseeable future. I'm taking it one step at a time, but purchasing a jet is an end goal representing the lifestyle of choice I am pursuing. At this age, most other people are screwing around and wasting time. Everyone tells me to "appreciate the High School experience," basically telling me to get fucked up on the daily while my body can handle it. However, I'm viewing my lackluster youth as a sacrifice towards my future.

If this is your plan here are the chances of you ever accumulating enough money to own a jet

zero percent

The only way to real wealth is owning a company and that's not even in your plans until based on your guidelines you are well past 30+.

Think bigger much much much much bigger.

I have only met in person 2 people who own a jet in my entire life. Want to guess their title? Chief Executive Officer.

Give it time. I'm not going to die until I have Dr. in front of my name, M.D. behind it, and a jet in my hangar.

[WestCoast]

^ not trying to squash your dreams. Go look up the people who actually own these jets, the number of them running a "doctor practice" is nada.

If you're going to create the cure for cancer then yeah you'll own a jet for sure. I am assuming you're already admitted into an Ivy League school/have started a biz if so keep on it.

This thread is a mindfuck. I am just praying gringuito throws up a life advice post the rest of the stuff on here will be al, worth it at that point.

[Hotwheels]

I'm with WC on this.

[Tresdus]

Telling yourself what you are going to own is literally one of the best ways to make it happen. Read Think and Grow Rich. Listen to Elliot Hulse. He was flat out broke and he told himself everyday the life he was going to have in a couple of years. And now he has exactly the same life with almost a million youtube subscribers.
Here's a video where he talks about it: (Oh and don't come and say the advice in the video is stupid, he says himself not to listen to him, he's been with his wife since he was 14)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Duc99aNlruY

[Gringuito]

(02-23-2014 11:47 PM)WestCoast Wrote:  

The only way to real wealth is owning a company and that's not even in your plans until based on your guidelines you are well past 30+.

Think bigger much much much much bigger.

I have only met in person 2 people who own a jet in my entire life. Want to guess their title? Chief Executive Officer.

This has been my experience in life. That said I really want to encourage the OP. CaliforniaSupreme, if you're still in high school and already thinking this way that says quite a bit about where you're going. BTW, I know a doctor that invented a medical device. I invested heavily in his company because you could tell he was always the smartest person in the room. His company was bought out for a large sum and I received a 4x return on my investment. He is a great doctor and a better CEO.

WestCoast, I'll put something together and post it. I've done some mentoring of small business entrepreneurs.

[DVY]

^^^Theres been more than a few doctors flying their own private jets.

Think of the Invisalign company. Doctors started it. Its over a mulit-billion dollar company now (Align Tech). https://www.google.com/finance?q=NASDAQ:...CEkQ2AEwAA

Couple implant guys have def. minted a pretty penny as well. The healthcare field is a heavy racket. Its not uncommon to make 10x markup on each product.

but I gotta go w/WC, its a long and hard route which isn't conducive to a normal lifestyle.

[lavidaloca]

I think you'd be better off just buying a plane unless you get to the point where you make so much it no longer matters and it's just a blip on the radar. The reality is even though this forum is geared towards a bachelor lifestyle by the time you have accumulated enough wealth to purchase a jet it's very likely you'll be married with or without children and your priorities will change.

It's like the thousands of guys who dream about owning a Ferrari. These guys probably are the types who buy one before they should. I.e. a guy has a million and goes and buys a 458 Italia. Whereas the truly wealthy are people who wait until they make the really big purchases and just continually make purchases that to them are just a blip.

I'm sure Gringuito probably didn't have the jet when he was worth 5 or 10 million. Perhaps he could've afforded to purchase it and maintain it at that point but it wouldn't have been wise.

I know Dentists, Doctors, Small Business Owners and Lawyers whom own planes. I don't know anyone who owns a jet.

Personally I'd rather have a nice exotic. I don't think I'd ever reach the point where I could rationalize the spending on a jet. There would be so many other things I'd prefer to spend that type of money on.

[WestCoast]

Thanks Gringuito, I have a few (likely retard level questions) about running a biz as well but will save it for whatever thread you start.

Treadus - you are missing the point. He stated you need $100M to own a jet. Let's think about this. If you become, even a good doctor, and make $500K per year from the very beginning ($350K after taxes) and you save EVERY PENNY meaning you save $350K per year for life and on top of all of this you get a 10% annual return on your investment you won't have $100M until you are 65 years old.

It is one thing to say you want to be rich but this is like me saying I want $10M dollars and my plan is to work minimum wage for life. Simply not gonna happen and you're either mentally sick or can't do math... As you can see it means both.

@dvy your Invisalign example actually proves his point? They created a product/company.

No one is flying jets by starting a run of the mill doctors practice, you can get a few sticks in the bank but $3-5M versus $100M is not even in the same ball park.

Simply put? No one who owns a jet owns a jet because he wants to show off. They own jets because their time is so valuable that it is worth it. All this translated? You have to be of large value as a person to ever afford/need a jet.

[EuroSlumming]

OP, you're still in High School, you should be more focused on working out and hitting some pussy rather than thinking about a jet you could own in 20 years. Nothing wrong with ambition, it just depends on what is fuelling that ambition as to whether it is a positive or negative in your life.

I don't have Jet owner level cash but I do have a fair amount and I'd swap that in a second to be starting out again in high school.

[Tresdus]

(02-24-2014 11:20 AM)EuroSlumming Wrote:  

OP, you're still in High School, you should be more focused on working out and hitting some pussy rather than thinking about a jet you could own in 20 years. Nothing wrong with ambition, it just depends on what is fuelling that ambition as to whether it is a positive or negative in your life.

I don't have Jet owner level cash but I do have a fair amount and I'd swap that in a second to be starting out again in high school.

Maybe if that's your priorities. I'm a year out of highschool and I'd rather spend my time now making money. I'm on my way to easily hit 1mil+ when I'm 30. Then I can retire (well work on my investments, but anyway) and my SMV will be 10 times higher than now which means less time spent looking for new girls. I still get laid now, I just don't invest any time into it.

[CaliforniaSupreme]

(02-24-2014 11:20 AM)EuroSlumming Wrote:  

OP, you're still in High School, you should be more focused on working out and hitting some pussy rather than thinking about a jet you could own in 20 years. Nothing wrong with ambition, it just depends on what is fuelling that ambition as to whether it is a positive or negative in your life.

I don't have Jet owner level cash but I do have a fair amount and I'd swap that in a second to be starting out again in high school.

I wouldn't be on this forum if I wasn't trying to hone my game or making myself a better person. I'm trying to be rich, educated, ripped, and have pussy clinging onto me harder than an angry cat. More difficult than it sounds.

[lavidaloca]

dupe.

[lavidaloca]

(02-24-2014 10:48 PM)Tresdus Wrote:  

(02-24-2014 11:20 AM)EuroSlumming Wrote:  

OP, you're still in High School, you should be more focused on working out and hitting some pussy rather than thinking about a jet you could own in 20 years. Nothing wrong with ambition, it just depends on what is fuelling that ambition as to whether it is a positive or negative in your life.

I don't have Jet owner level cash but I do have a fair amount and I'd swap that in a second to be starting out again in high school.

Maybe if that's your priorities. I'm a year out of highschool and I'd rather spend my time now making money. I'm on my way to easily hit 1mil+ when I'm 30. Then I can retire (well work on my investments, but anyway) and my SMV will be 10 times higher than now which means less time spent looking for new girls. I still get laid now, I just don't invest any time into it.

Retiring with 1 million at 30 might not be the smartest move. You'd have to be highly leveraged in equities to be able to keep up with inflation. Its fine if you are completely willing to go back to the workforce at some point and you have a career that would allow this. But 1 million dollars while it may seem like a lot now, is hardly drop out of the rat race at 30 type of money. Remember, you'd need to be prepared to live till 90 and unless you are investing in equities your money would continue to buy less and less as inflation rose. During a correction your spending would have to be highly curbed. 1 million at 50 retiring is a lot different than 1 million at 30 in terms of retiring on it.

Maybe I'm completely off base here and plenty of people would be comfortable retiring with a million at 30. Personally for me to drop off I'd need about 3-5 times that amount.

[CaliforniaSupreme]

I'd personally never retire, just because you can continuously make money. Also, retirement is a time when old people prepare to die, basically. I'd like to live as long of a life as possible, so I won't even get into that mindset.

[Laner]

Why are you doing two years of Community College?

Is this a financial move or strategic move?

I thought you were a rich kid you talk of owning Gucci shoes and sporting $5000 watches so I am surprised to hear the CC route.

And yeah, if you can invent and patent medical devices and techniques there is money to be made for sure. Although I could think of less rigorous ways than 10 years of training in order to start out in a field.

[Menace]

Guessing he's doing CC --> transfer to good school (I hope) in order to save money. However, socially he will likely suffer for this; transfer students are most often second class citizens. That being said, he's light years ahead of 95% of his peers in even thinking about this. Hope it all works out but consider that "living in luxury" all depends where you will be living. California or Philippines as just one example...big difference in necessary resources. Also, "living in luxury" is relative...hell, I live in luxury compared to 95% of the world I'd wager. Luxury goods are largely positional...after a certain level of quality, the marginal benefit is minimal...it's all about hierarchy after that.

[EuroSlumming]

(02-25-2014 12:32 AM)CaliforniaSupreme Wrote:  

(02-24-2014 11:20 AM)EuroSlumming Wrote:  

OP, you're still in High School, you should be more focused on working out and hitting some pussy rather than thinking about a jet you could own in 20 years. Nothing wrong with ambition, it just depends on what is fuelling that ambition as to whether it is a positive or negative in your life.

I don't have Jet owner level cash but I do have a fair amount and I'd swap that in a second to be starting out again in high school.

I wouldn't be on this forum if I wasn't trying to hone my game or making myself a better person. I'm trying to be rich, educated, ripped, and have pussy clinging onto me harder than an angry cat. More difficult than it sounds.

I wonder if you reconsidered your position after seeing the costs?

You could do, what I'd consider, fantastically well and be earning $1.2 million a year after taxes and that would only be enough to pay for the maintenance on a jet, it is truly only for extremely wealthy people.

[worldwidetraveler]

(02-25-2014 12:57 AM)CaliforniaSupreme Wrote:  

I'd personally never retire, just because you can continuously make money. Also, retirement is a time when old people prepare to die, basically. I'd like to live as long of a life as possible, so I won't even get into that mindset.

Just remember, you will change your mind when you get more experiences. Part of being young is trying different stuff to find your identity.

When I was a young lad, I wanted to be an artist. I was a pretty good one and had attended art schools since I was a little pup. I even finished up a bachelor degree in art.

I ended up doing another degree in computers and business because I knew it would pay more and it came naturally to me. I found I was good a solving problems. I love art but not enough to be poor. A lot of my fellow art students got on my nerves and I could only imagine being around that type for the rest of my career.

I still use my art talent to this date. I just use it for product branding.

Besides, if I had made a career in art, I would have had to become a hipster and that was definitely not going to happen.