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01-14-2014, 06:34 AM
The threat of being imprisoned even for a couple of days for not paying a civil judgment in the USA is very low. Just look at OJ before he went to prison on that other thing, he evaded the Goldmans' judgment for years and lived well.
Arrests for civil process in the USA are usually privately done - the creditor has to get the order from the court and pay a deputy sheriff or constable to arrest the person. Police in most jurisdictions have no interest in collecting private debts. The worst that usually happens is the debtor is brought before the court the next day, told to pay the money, and then let free. It's a pain in the ass for the creditor, costs a few hundred dollars, and is usually not worth it.
If it's a fine or a condition of probation attached to a criminal judgment, that's another matter. It would only make a difference if it was a felony with a substantial sentence, otherwise it would probably to be worth it to do the time in the county jail. If you took off for failure to pay on a felony charge, you would have a felony warrant that would possibly keep you from renewing your passport, traveling, collecting social security when eligible, etc.
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01-14-2014, 10:44 AM
Quote: (01-08-2014 11:57 PM)Tyrone Slothrop Wrote:
JAny transaction over 10K triggers an electronic filing with IRS.
I don't think this is a problem if someone is leaving the country forever. But you could wire money to a few casinos, buy chips, and cash them out slowly or surreptitiously.
Quote: (01-09-2014 01:36 AM)Tail Gunner Wrote:
You can buy a few expensive watches (worth $100k or more each)
You can do the same with diamonds
Watches and jewelry will lose most of their value. Bitcoin is interesting, because it fits on a thumb drive. You could have a friend hold the money and send it. Smuggling cash is a distinct possibility. You could mail yourself a few packets. They need a search warrant to open U.S. mail.
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01-14-2014, 10:59 AM
South east asian waters are infested with pirates, you will eventually get jacked.
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01-14-2014, 12:01 PM
Quote: (01-14-2014 11:57 AM)samsamsam Wrote:
Quote: (01-14-2014 06:34 AM)Sp5 Wrote:
The threat of being imprisoned even for a couple of days for not paying a civil judgment in the USA is very low. Just look at OJ before he went to prison on that other thing, he evaded the Goldmans' judgment for years and lived well.
He has some assets that are untouchable, but other stuff like royalties from movies and book sales go to the Goldman's.
"Even in prison, Simpson has income from his NFL pension and another retirement account that is shielded under federal law from creditors. Residual payments from Simpson's movies, such as the "Naked Gun" series and "The Towering Inferno," go to the Goldmans."
I'm glad he's paying something.
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01-14-2014, 12:02 PM
You can hide all your cash in one of Lindy Wests back-fat rolls just pay her to travel with you.
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01-15-2014, 12:58 PM
Quote: (01-14-2014 04:02 PM)Tail Gunner Wrote:
At most, you will lose the difference between the retail and wholesale value if you sell to a high-end jeweler.
I have bought and sold 4-figure watches for a profit, but do not recommend it. Good luck selling diamonds.
Have You Ever Tried to Sell a Diamond?
It is completely legal to carry any amount of cash in the U.S., or for that matter, outside the U.S. The only issue here seems to be reporting transactions or international transport over $10K. If you withdraw $300K in one single cash transaction, then it is pretty obvious where the money went. I don't know whether that is a problem. If you develop a gambling, watch, or car hobby and spend it over six months, then you can plausibly claim to be broke.
You could also send it to an offshore sportsbook or poker site.
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01-15-2014, 02:36 PM
1000's of people disappear every day in the US. There are millions of undocumented immigrants here right now.
This international man of mystery is kinda white collar of you ask me.
Getting the papers might be the hardest part.
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01-15-2014, 03:39 PM
Is it possible to fly out to a country, find a job under the table and stay there for years? I know there has to be Americans illegally doing that all over.
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01-15-2014, 03:45 PM
No I don't meang going on the run. I'm saying if some guy with no warrants just bought a ticket and attempted to do that. How hard would it be or does it all depend on the country?