[Screwston]

Damn put me down with one of those good girls! Yeah I think you should be able to pop them after some time. Just keep on getting them horny and theyll give in eventually

[Comte De St. Germain]

I'm planning to use the excuse that I'm curious about the Catholic Church as an excuse to hang around her one of these days. I just need to find a way to get her to ditch the beta(monogamy and all that).

[Comte De St. Germain]

And @Houston if you wanna pick one or two up I can probably scout out which church they go too and post it on here. I also know a lot of them are going to A&M next year so they may jump on the cock carousel soon.

[internationalscientist45]

Don't call me sir. I work for a living and I am a mere rookie compared to most on here.

It just worked that I happened to have been blessed with a gift for being able to adapt myself to a particular situation and group. Being well rounded (especially when it comes to religion or other culturally significant factors) tends to be very useful. One of the best things I ever did was read all of the world's significant primary religious texts while I was in high school figuring that if I was going to live in this world, I should at least try to see why people took the approaches to things that they do. This allowed me to take that and use it when dealing with folks who base their world view off of such materials. In the case of Lynn (the pastor's daughter), I ended up using my decent knowledge of Christian doctrine to get my foot in the door with her father whom I honestly think saw me as a potential future colleague even though I have am an agnostic on my best days (and an agnostic Jew at that). So once she was hearing good things from her dad about me, I just slowly moved in and let her think what she would about me while slowly bringing her around to my view of sexuality.

The best way to think of it is as a very slow version of kino game and a very small scale application of some of the basic tenets of propaganda. If you understand the underlying currents of a culture and the inherent forces that drive human behavior, you can tap into them to get what you want. A good, albeit evil, example of this is how the Nazi propaganda latched on to the undercurrent of anti-Semitism that had ebbed and swelled repeatedly in Europe for over a thousand years. It wasn't that everyone one day woke up and said "Hey, you know lets slaughter this people because this greasy little douchebag with a Chaplin mustache says we should". There was a slow progress from a well-established dislike of a particular minority group to open persecution and finally to outright slaughter.

Now pardon invoking "Godwin's game" here but you can do something similar with a girl who is resistant to the idea of sex on religious or cultural grounds. No, I don't mean take her out and put one in the back of her head while she kneels before a ditch or to retrofit your bathroom with a special showerhead that dispenses insecticide. Rather you simply tap into her innate biological drive to procreate and slowly move her way of thinking about it into a way that fits into her religious beliefs. You can go from a "don't touch me" to kissing and groping to fingering to oral sex and to the final solution of the virginity question. It takes a lot of work and you need to really understand what you are dealing with but if you're into banging virgins (personally, it's not my thing although I won't turn down the chance if it presents itself) this sort of game can serve you well.

[internationalscientist45]

(01-05-2014 12:38 PM)hwuzhere Wrote:  

I'm planning to use the excuse that I'm curious about the Catholic Church as an excuse to hang around her one of these days. I just need to find a way to get her to ditch the beta(monogamy and all that).

If you're morally flexible enough to game someone like her, you probably should try setting up the guy you want to get out of your way. Befriend him and then try to find a way to compromise her opinion of him. You know, the old "keep your friends close and your enemies closer" tactic. In what might be somewhat akin to using an alpha male as a gateway to his group, you can use the beta to influence her opinion of you in a positive way while simultaneously eroding his "power" with her.

[Comte De St. Germain]

I guess I'm in the same boat as you then. I am well versed in religous topics due to my curiosity on matters of religion and sense of self purpose and read up quite a bit on religious topics in my spare time. Although I have yet to finish any religious text, I've read a good portion of what is considered religious works. I was born into a family where my father was Muslim to an extreme(thankfully not terrorist extreme) and my mother was relatively moderate. I never got a lot of what my religion did in some regards so I read up and took the best out of every philosophy and school of thought. Using philosophy and religion as a game technique never occurred to me so I might as well try it out now.

[Comte De St. Germain]

I don't see her boyfriend in any kind of social setting and only recently met him through her at a football game by accident. I don't think using him might be a suitable option.

[internationalscientist45]

(01-05-2014 05:47 PM)hwuzhere Wrote:  

I don't see her boyfriend in any kind of social setting and only recently met him through her at a football game by accident. I don't think using him might be a suitable option.

Usually the best patsies are the ones who don't seem overtly obvious. Know your enemy and do not "attack" where he expects you to. It's one of the basic tenets from The Art of War and most other military texts. Even better if you can give the impression that his position with his girl is about to be threatened by someone else.

[Comte De St. Germain]

I honestly need to get myself a copy of the Art of War. Considering I own The Prince, The Divine Comedy, more uncommon books like Mein Kampf, and other classics like The Illiad it is rather annoying. The problem right now is that I need to threaten his position without me ever meeting him(as in I don't see him at all). I'll think of something especially since I blew said Catholic chick off when I was not interested in her as a prospect but her friend oh well what happens happens.

[Comte De St. Germain]

Also is there a way to use the music I make to attract her? She is really into techno music, and I'm thinking using this might also be a good idea.

[internationalscientist45]

(01-05-2014 06:08 PM)hwuzhere Wrote:  

I honestly need to get myself a copy of the Art of War. Considering I own The Prince, The Divine Comedy, more uncommon books like Mein Kampf, and other classics like The Illiad it is rather annoying.

Ask and ye shall receive: http://www.artofwarsuntzu.com/Art%20of%20War%20PDF.pdf

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The problem right now is that I need to threaten his position without me ever meeting him(as in I don't see him at all).

Any mutual friends or chance of making some other than the girl? My suggestion would be to do some snooping to get dirt and then spread it. If you can't then there is the default of just getting one of your friends to say he heard the target saying or doing something that would piss the girl off. The most common mistake with this approach is failing to remember to get the timeline straight. If you're going to say that he was somewhere or talking to someone, you need to make sure he was either there or somewhere he can't verify.

[Comte De St. Germain]

He's probably from her church or from another social group so I'll keep my eyes open thanks for the advice and the e-copy of the Art of War. I'll probably but a hard copy if it soon too.