[soup]

(01-25-2012 12:18 AM)misterstir Wrote:  

Women are like children, to view them as equals is to view a child as an equal when he acts bratty and annoying.

Game can be used to get you women, its that simple. I am having a hesitancy to use game as time goes by because I see the same problem, flaky irresponsible women, poor social skills. You can use game all you want but if a kid was acting like a little brat do you give him a candy or do you beat him up side the head. Spare the rod spoil the child. Game is ultimately just a coping strategy for dealing with women who have huge and gaping inadequacies in their personalities. Game doesn't address that most of everything a woman presents about herself is false and fake. Fake hair, fake nailes, fake height, fake tits, fake push up bra, fake big butt with special pants, fake face - its not even makeup anymore with all the products out there it just like wearing a damn mask.

No, game is not just about going for bad quality women. You sound like a denier.

To get a woman of quality, you need to have good game.

[hypesession]

I think both Mixx and Pitt have valid points.

Mixx's is that when you are on a lot of women, you have to choose the easier routes to determining whether to expend your energy approaching.

Pitt is also valid in that body language is not always the end all be all of whether to approach.

There's always more flair in taking the hard challenge of a cold shoulder and turning it around. But trying it all the time would take ridiculous energy.

[hypesession]

however, upon further consideration, the thread is about the op's concern over women rejecting his initial approaches.

so mixx's advice would be more appropriate because you want to target women who are most likely to be receptive to your initial approach.

does this make sense

[pitt]

(01-25-2012 12:31 AM)gringochileno Wrote:  

Women want to be approached by guys they like. They don't like being approached by dudes with no game any more than you like it when a hideous land whale won't leave you alone in a bar.

Thats the worse mindset a man can have.

[Mrs. Chocolate]

(01-25-2012 02:07 AM)pitt Wrote:  

(01-25-2012 12:31 AM)gringochileno Wrote:  

Women want to be approached by guys they like. They don't like being approached by dudes with no game any more than you like it when a hideous land whale won't leave you alone in a bar.

Thats the worse mindset a man can have.

He is right.

[pitt]

(01-25-2012 11:35 AM)Mrs. Chocolate Wrote:  

(01-25-2012 02:07 AM)pitt Wrote:  

(01-25-2012 12:31 AM)gringochileno Wrote:  

Women want to be approached by guys they like. They don't like being approached by dudes with no game any more than you like it when a hideous land whale won't leave you alone in a bar.

Thats the worse mindset a man can have.

He is right.

I tell you why this mindset is bad.

When you are thinking like that, you are going to ponder a lot about who you are going to approach, you start getting thoughts like the following two options:

- She is very pretty, she may not even talk to me, she has lots of options, she wont talk to me because im black or because im short or because my game is not good enough

- She is not looking at me, not smiling at me, she is probably not interested

When i approach a woman, i just dont think about it, i just do it. I will do it anywhere, the train station, the pub, the international airport, the gym, at work, if she is walking with her parents, if she is jogging in the area. Regardless of how she is dressed, of where i am, how hot she is, how is her body language, i dont care about none of these things, i just approach if i think she is that hot. And guess what, they hardly refuse to give me their numbers. Its a brave man's world. Just approach, dont think about the end result.

[Giovonny]

Women want to be approached so bad I swear to God I can fucking taste it!

(01-25-2012 03:57 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

Who cares if they want to be approached?

Thats the correct answer!

[Samseau]

Who cares if they want to be approached?

[iknowexactly]

(12-07-2010 02:34 PM)MiXX Wrote:  

(12-06-2010 11:20 PM)Rocco81 Wrote:  

Good point U .R Man....however I think you can sum this up with saying women in general love the non commited attention. Like a child, they want the looks the glances, the smiles and the compliments, however its a different thing when you ask for the number or are clearly "hitting" on her. Some girls might get a little oncomfortable with that. Mostly not...but its possible.

And if she does feel uncomfortable, sucks to be her....in the game of getting laid by many women, her feelings/approval about your approach should be the last thing to consider.

However, when approaching in day-game, consider that women use body language to invite a potential man to make approach. Is she exposing a lot of skin? Is she covered up form head to toe? Notice her hair, make-up, shoes, accessories everything expresses her desire to be approached (or not). If she is talking on the phone, definitely do not approach, it will certainly fail. If she is sitting at a park bench, with a mini-skirt, and fresh perfume you can smell as you pass by, APPROACH!!

A womans body language never lies. The key is to detect which women are more open to being approached than others.

the rule I go by is simple: if more than 50% of her body is exposed, approach - full force. ** Usually this happens right around the start of their menstrual cycle as they have a natural urge to be impregnated.

Between 20-50%, approach, with caution by using a situational opener, and get a reading on her body language further.

If she is wearing loose clothing, and covering everything including her neck...try to get eye contact, and a smile, if she does not reciprocate...do not approach.



Mixx

I think this kind of signal evaluation and calibrated response is golden, but where I am right now it is cold. It is really not practical to actually be showing much skin.

BUT I can see what you're saying in a way, in that women can wear some pretty tight warm clothes!! Like a skin tight corduroys and a form fitting sweater to make it very easy to visualize her naked.

I think sometimes eye contact feels too obvious to them, it feels like it would to you to yell across the room " I would like to fuck you" which makes this info even more usable. They'll just kind of sit there and quiver hahaha. Tonight I was sitting at a table near three young girls, about 20. At one point they went silent. Then one exaggeratedly turned around and looked at me and they all started giggling. To them that meant that they had practically SHOUTED at me, "Talk to us!"

( I did but they were so dumb, they didn't even know the location of the city landmark ballet theatre two blocks away, so I was bewildered and split.)

[Tuthmosis]

(01-25-2012 03:57 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

Who cares if they want to be approached?

Exactly.

[Giovonny]

(01-25-2012 05:20 PM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  

Because..

They might not think they want to be approached, but, one close encounter with a stylish, handsome man could change her whole body chemistry in a split second.

Sometimes, I approach a girls and I know they don't want to be approached. Its interesting what happens, sometimes we both get surprised.

[Pilgrim37]

Sorry,some of the girls on this are well below par...but it's still interesting.
I don't know how much of the analysis I buy.

[gringochileno]

(01-25-2012 11:51 AM)pitt Wrote:  

(01-25-2012 11:35 AM)Mrs. Chocolate Wrote:  

(01-25-2012 02:07 AM)pitt Wrote:  

(01-25-2012 12:31 AM)gringochileno Wrote:  

Women want to be approached by guys they like. They don't like being approached by dudes with no game any more than you like it when a hideous land whale won't leave you alone in a bar.

Thats the worse mindset a man can have.

He is right.

I tell you why this mindset is bad.

When you are thinking like that, you are going to ponder a lot about who you are going to approach, you start getting thoughts like the following two options:

- She is very pretty, she may not even talk to me, she has lots of options, she wont talk to me because im black or because im short or because my game is not good enough

- She is not looking at me, not smiling at me, she is probably not interested

When i approach a woman, i just dont think about it, i just do it. I will do it anywhere, the train station, the pub, the international airport, the gym, at work, if she is walking with her parents, if she is jogging in the area. Regardless of how she is dressed, of where i am, how hot she is, how is her body language, i dont care about none of these things, i just approach if i think she is that hot. And guess what, they hardly refuse to give me their numbers. Its a brave man's world. Just approach, dont think about the end result.

Don't read too much into it. I wasn't meaning in any way to give a reason not to approach. If you have the right mindset you should think you're the shit and every single girl would feel very lucky and special to be approached by you anyway. I'm just pointing out the reality that hot girls get hit on extremely often, mostly by dudes with terrible game, and this has the effect of making them both resentful of garden-variety mediocre approaches and all the more grateful when the occasional guy who knows what he's doing comes along.

[TheWolfHowls]

Its not about what they want, its about what we want to do. We want to go for it. That's all that matters.

[soup]

Not only does it not matter if she wants you to approach her, don't let your feelings get in the way either. If you're going to get good at it, you're going to have to approach no matter who feels what about it happening.

Set a goal of approaching x number of girls that pass the boner test and be done with the whole feelings thing.

[Distant Light]

OF COURSE they want to be approached but we men are the dumb ones almost like babies with no self control...

The woman's world is abit more sad than men IMO because its almost as if they are in a "Resident Evil" or "Night Of The Living Dead" where its almost impossible to find another survivor. All day its abunch of zombies all TRYING to get her and she's waiting for the possibility of a human to land the helicopter and save her...
- Do you know how many girls I know who I hear always masturbates before they go out?
- Does a woman really go out to a million dollar club just to dance with her friends? They could have there SERIOUS CONVERSATION in there home over an epic lifetime re-run

I've declared women's lives as being boring and there social/sex life is very limited which makes things even more complicated. Why do I say this...
- Go to a club EARLY and watch all women walk in looking around and then sitting/waiting around for a fucking nuke to finally change there life.
- How much options does a woman really have? Which of the zombies surrounding her will she allow to bite her?
- How many women with boyfriends/husbands ended up cheating due to the most basic circumstances?
- How is it the women you fool around with and bang always seems like there whole life has changed drastically now that she knows you? Next time your on a 2day hibernation with a chick think about what the hell she was doing before you came into the picture...At starbucks? Weekly pilates?

The thing is, I've noticed all women from an unattractive chick to a gorgeous model hired for fashion week runway all were fascinated by how I lived. The secret to women is that they are crackheads to FUN FUN FUN. Many women were fascinated just by the fact that I mentioned I'm here alone creating new adventures. It's so abstract but the underlying depth in it all is FUN. FUN can be alot of things but we all have a general subjective idea of what a "Fun" state of mind is.

Most women aren't living a fun life as they worry about all sorts of trival bs compared to us men. There LOOKS is going to go away as they get older which will make it even harder for her to find a human amongst zombies which will leave her to get bit by the zombie who was in the right place, right time, under the right circumstances. (That fun moment was nothing but a near death experience as the zombie bite into her hahaha) To a zombie, LOOKS is what is causing her to be hunted by zombies BUT if her looks decays then the human will never sense her presence UNLESS she spots him and charges at him. Imagine waiting on a high rise, maintaining your looks, to eventually get saved and put on a island of FUN TIMES. You don't know if you'll ever be saved and time is ticking.

Basically a woman is ALWAYS waiting/hoping for that guy to give her an opportunity to entice him to SAVE HER. However, she never gets the chance too because every giu is essentially sold on wanting her just off of looks. Like zombies they aimlessly/shamelessly/unapologetically go for what they want. She knows how the film goes, run run run until she trips and gets bit by one clever zombie. Then the zombie is playing "Hold onto the human" as he see's how long he can hold onto her before she breaks out of the hold.

One of the funniest and most interesting moments was hanging with a pornstar friend of mine who got into a discussion with a guy she knows who was mentioning the first few times he seen her and didn't know who she was until he realized "I know her". Her response was the most comfy/indifferent "Yea yea yea, I know you were a fan...But blahblah". That was when I learnt how boring/bland a womans life was because even this pornstar was BORED. (I know she wishes she was back in her early 20s rolling with me)

What I'm trying to point out is that women are bored with the current state of dating. I can imagine back in the 40s-50s courting was an artform that women were fascinated by. HOWEVER, nowadays for women its like "Guy who wants me, he's going to do all this shit to try to get me to fuck him...Guy #2, #3, #4" But then she meets.

THAT GUY
He's got that island full of women who he saved from zombies, he's about to save this new girl BUT her looks is irrelevant because he has an island full of women. When his off-spring grows up starting with no women he will learn that he can fly his copter to 1million different islands BUT there is only space for a couple thousand women so he needs to choose wisely. In NORMAL terms, there are billions of women and everyday a younger cooler hotter woman is turning 18/21 so LOOKS shouldn't be ONE AND ONLY criteria.

This changes her whole world instantly because now her looks don't matter and she actually has to show some depth. I've seen women do ALOT OF SHIT hahaha both drastic and subtle. Anywhere from approaching me, showing me that she could belly dance, really pointing out that she would beat me if we raced from berlin to poland, to simply calling me to come over. These are memories women will finger themselves over and lie on there deathbed thinking about that one fascinating lad.

A woman who meets a guy who is skeptical about wanting her is highly attractive because now its "What does it take to get a guy like him?" Most hot women probably only heard NO from there family and professionals.

How many guys would say NO
to a gorgeous chick who walks up saying "You have an interesting style? Whats your name? I must run to the bathroom, I'll take a mojito". I bet you 99% of men who see there ideal type do this to them will be getting that fucking drink because he WANTS HER (and wants her to interact with him hahaha)

One of my earliest moments of seeing all this was back when I met the hottest women I ever seen and fooled around with in my life. There was a moment where I was like "Wait, you don't even remember my name...What is it then!?" 1st response was way off and second was close BUT I said...

"Fuck this, I'm done here" and walked off to head back inside. This chick RAN AFTER ME YELLING MY NAME and grabbing my arm saying "stop stop, now why you going to go and do that". An then BOOM MAKEOUT. Then were sitting down on sofa making out and then she is slamming me on the wall making out infront of her friend. Then she's telling me LETS GO.

For years I tried to figure out why it is that this girl was fascinated by me despite being gorgeous. It wasn't a fluke though because the NEXT DAY a gorgeous danish chick similar thing happened. The whole conversation was about "How would she accommodate me in denmark" and then after all the scenarios I threw at her I just madeout with her.

Years later, I'm now noticing women were looking for FUN/CRACK all this time. During daytime there was a day I was practicing self-amusement which we mistakened for dancing monkey syndrome back then. When 7 different women are in sephora all interact with you sametime its not dancing monkey its a valuable guy who can bring FUN moments into her life. That not I could not NOT get blown out. The more I played around is the more interesting interactions I had.

P.S...I was about the just x out this post halfway through since I didn't want to talk about all this BUT after thinking about a few experiences in the past month or so I felt it was needed. I saw a gorgeous girl at the owners table awhile back FIXATED on me as if she was wondering "OMG, who is that!?" About 3 weeks later an exotic looking chick walks from the owners table and when she comes back she doesn't go back into the table. Instead she is leaning on the sofa facing directly at me. Imagine 1ft away is a girl focused straight at you at such close proximity for atleast 5-10mins. I no longer believe I miss opportunities due to what would seem like infinite abundance. HOWEVER, months later I did feel bad due to the fact that I didn't even give her a chance to even show me what she's about and for most hot women they either have lots of zombies on them or they're too mystical for anyone to even deem her real so zombies fear her. A 3rd girl I met through a friend eventually BUT I realized she was this chick I once seen a month or so back who was watching me have the time of my life hahaha. I texted my friend that night saying "Once again I feel douchey since I'm having a blast and not willing to walk across the club to bring this exotic looking girl into the epic times". Its no wonder everytime she seen me after we were introduced through friends that she was always HAPPY.

P.S.S...Hope some of this makes sense, was on a ramble :|

[soup]

"Years later, I'm now noticing women were looking for FUN/CRACK all this time. During daytime there was a day I was practicing self-amusement which we mistakened for dancing monkey syndrome back then. When 7 different women are in sephora all interact with you sametime its not dancing monkey its a valuable guy who can bring FUN moments into her life. That not I could not NOT get blown out. The more I played around is the more interesting interactions I had."

Yes, you recognize the reality of the situation, and work it. That's the key to game.

[drymarro]

(01-28-2012 03:37 AM)Distant Light Wrote:  

OF COURSE they want to be approached but we men are the dumb ones almost like babies with no self control...

The woman's world is abit more sad than men IMO because its almost as if they are in a "Resident Evil" or "Night Of The Living Dead" where its almost impossible to find another survivor. All day its abunch of zombies all TRYING to get her and she's waiting for the possibility of a human to land the helicopter and save her...
- Do you know how many girls I know who I hear always masturbates before they go out?
- Does a woman really go out to a million dollar club just to dance with her friends? They could have there SERIOUS CONVERSATION in there home over an epic lifetime re-run

I've declared women's lives as being boring and there social/sex life is very limited which makes things even more complicated. Why do I say this...
- Go to a club EARLY and watch all women walk in looking around and then sitting/waiting around for a fucking nuke to finally change there life.
- How much options does a woman really have? Which of the zombies surrounding her will she allow to bite her?
- How many women with boyfriends/husbands ended up cheating due to the most basic circumstances?
- How is it the women you fool around with and bang always seems like there whole life has changed drastically now that she knows you? Next time your on a 2day hibernation with a chick think about what the hell she was doing before you came into the picture...At starbucks? Weekly pilates?

The thing is, I've noticed all women from an unattractive chick to a gorgeous model hired for fashion week runway all were fascinated by how I lived. The secret to women is that they are crackheads to FUN FUN FUN. Many women were fascinated just by the fact that I mentioned I'm here alone creating new adventures. It's so abstract but the underlying depth in it all is FUN. FUN can be alot of things but we all have a general subjective idea of what a "Fun" state of mind is.

Most women aren't living a fun life as they worry about all sorts of trival bs compared to us men. There LOOKS is going to go away as they get older which will make it even harder for her to find a human amongst zombies which will leave her to get bit by the zombie who was in the right place, right time, under the right circumstances. (That fun moment was nothing but a near death experience as the zombie bite into her hahaha) To a zombie, LOOKS is what is causing her to be hunted by zombies BUT if her looks decays then the human will never sense her presence UNLESS she spots him and charges at him. Imagine waiting on a high rise, maintaining your looks, to eventually get saved and put on a island of FUN TIMES. You don't know if you'll ever be saved and time is ticking.

Basically a woman is ALWAYS waiting/hoping for that guy to give her an opportunity to entice him to SAVE HER. However, she never gets the chance too because every giu is essentially sold on wanting her just off of looks. Like zombies they aimlessly/shamelessly/unapologetically go for what they want. She knows how the film goes, run run run until she trips and gets bit by one clever zombie. Then the zombie is playing "Hold onto the human" as he see's how long he can hold onto her before she breaks out of the hold.

One of the funniest and most interesting moments was hanging with a pornstar friend of mine who got into a discussion with a guy she knows who was mentioning the first few times he seen her and didn't know who she was until he realized "I know her". Her response was the most comfy/indifferent "Yea yea yea, I know you were a fan...But blahblah". That was when I learnt how boring/bland a womans life was because even this pornstar was BORED. (I know she wishes she was back in her early 20s rolling with me)

What I'm trying to point out is that women are bored with the current state of dating. I can imagine back in the 40s-50s courting was an artform that women were fascinated by. HOWEVER, nowadays for women its like "Guy who wants me, he's going to do all this shit to try to get me to fuck him...Guy #2, #3, #4" But then she meets.

THAT GUY
He's got that island full of women who he saved from zombies, he's about to save this new girl BUT her looks is irrelevant because he has an island full of women. When his off-spring grows up starting with no women he will learn that he can fly his copter to 1million different islands BUT there is only space for a couple thousand women so he needs to choose wisely. In NORMAL terms, there are billions of women and everyday a younger cooler hotter woman is turning 18/21 so LOOKS shouldn't be ONE AND ONLY criteria.

This changes her whole world instantly because now her looks don't matter and she actually has to show some depth. I've seen women do ALOT OF SHIT hahaha both drastic and subtle. Anywhere from approaching me, showing me that she could belly dance, really pointing out that she would beat me if we raced from berlin to poland, to simply calling me to come over. These are memories women will finger themselves over and lie on there deathbed thinking about that one fascinating lad.

A woman who meets a guy who is skeptical about wanting her is highly attractive because now its "What does it take to get a guy like him?" Most hot women probably only heard NO from there family and professionals.

How many guys would say NO
to a gorgeous chick who walks up saying "You have an interesting style? Whats your name? I must run to the bathroom, I'll take a mojito". I bet you 99% of men who see there ideal type do this to them will be getting that fucking drink because he WANTS HER (and wants her to interact with him hahaha)

One of my earliest moments of seeing all this was back when I met the hottest women I ever seen and fooled around with in my life. There was a moment where I was like "Wait, you don't even remember my name...What is it then!?" 1st response was way off and second was close BUT I said...

"Fuck this, I'm done here" and walked off to head back inside. This chick RAN AFTER ME YELLING MY NAME and grabbing my arm saying "stop stop, now why you going to go and do that". An then BOOM MAKEOUT. Then were sitting down on sofa making out and then she is slamming me on the wall making out infront of her friend. Then she's telling me LETS GO.

For years I tried to figure out why it is that this girl was fascinated by me despite being gorgeous. It wasn't a fluke though because the NEXT DAY a gorgeous danish chick similar thing happened. The whole conversation was about "How would she accommodate me in denmark" and then after all the scenarios I threw at her I just madeout with her.

Years later, I'm now noticing women were looking for FUN/CRACK all this time. During daytime there was a day I was practicing self-amusement which we mistakened for dancing monkey syndrome back then. When 7 different women are in sephora all interact with you sametime its not dancing monkey its a valuable guy who can bring FUN moments into her life. That not I could not NOT get blown out. The more I played around is the more interesting interactions I had.

P.S...I was about the just x out this post halfway through since I didn't want to talk about all this BUT after thinking about a few experiences in the past month or so I felt it was needed. I saw a gorgeous girl at the owners table awhile back FIXATED on me as if she was wondering "OMG, who is that!?" About 3 weeks later an exotic looking chick walks from the owners table and when she comes back she doesn't go back into the table. Instead she is leaning on the sofa facing directly at me. Imagine 1ft away is a girl focused straight at you at such close proximity for atleast 5-10mins. I no longer believe I miss opportunities due to what would seem like infinite abundance. HOWEVER, months later I did feel bad due to the fact that I didn't even give her a chance to even show me what she's about and for most hot women they either have lots of zombies on them or they're too mystical for anyone to even deem her real so zombies fear her. A 3rd girl I met through a friend eventually BUT I realized she was this chick I once seen a month or so back who was watching me have the time of my life hahaha. I texted my friend that night saying "Once again I feel douchey since I'm having a blast and not willing to walk across the club to bring this exotic looking girl into the epic times". Its no wonder everytime she seen me after we were introduced through friends that she was always HAPPY.

P.S.S...Hope some of this makes sense, was on a ramble :|

Great points. Don't be afraid to be different. Be fun and get what you want. You're the reward. She's tagging along for the ride.

[Chad Daring]

That zombie analogy is spot fucking on and a great way to explain how "game" works. Game is the "cure" it turns you back into the human that girls want to come save them. Fucking brilliant man.

[Carl Sagan]

I agree with Mixx, who cares if they want to be approached?

So clean yourself up, look as crisp as possible and start approaching. You will get "rejected" a ton. No matter. You'll live.

With that said I leave you with a few great quotes to push you into battle:

"Away with the world's opinion of you - it's always unsettled and divided."

- Seneca

"It's only when you're breathing your last that they way you've spent your time will become apparent."

- Seneca

"Anything is possible to him who will try."

- Alexander The Great