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11-27-2013, 06:17 AM
Hi! which countries of Europe do you think will have the best economical perspectives?
France,Italy and UK seems to be stagnant and full of debt...
Spain is having very hard times but its recovering very quickly and open to foreign investment with many facilities for entrepreneurship
The countries where I can see a good economic development are those from Eastern Europe...¿what do you think?
Here is what is considered Eastern Europe (baltics included):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Europe...oschme.svg
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11-27-2013, 07:09 AM
Germany. Germans are geniuses when it comes to adapting to shitty economy.
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11-27-2013, 07:44 AM
Scotland post independence as going to be huge, with loads of opportunities for new business.
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11-27-2013, 07:49 AM
^ All your prescriptions and uni fees are free, amongst other things, why on earth would you want to leave?
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11-27-2013, 07:51 AM
*Economic.
Countries with better economical perspectives would be countries where the overall cost of living would be cheaper.
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11-27-2013, 08:39 AM
Quote: (11-27-2013 07:55 AM)bojangles Wrote:
Quote: (11-27-2013 07:49 AM)Teedub Wrote:
^ All your prescriptions and uni fees are free, amongst other things, why on earth would you want to leave?
they won't be able to do any of that post indepedence
funkyzeit is right with Germany, it's the economic titan in Europe, with a huge manufacturing base too.
Out of places I've visited, Germany is my favourite country. If the women were thinner and more feminine I'd renounce my British citizenship and move there permanently!
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11-27-2013, 09:45 AM
Scottish independence would be great since it would set the stage for other countries in Europe (and possibly around the world) to go independent.
An independence vote in Catalan would be next...and who knows, maybe even an independence vote one day for Texas as well.
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11-27-2013, 09:59 AM
Quote: (11-27-2013 09:45 AM)The Texas Prophet Wrote:
An independence vote in Catalan would be next...and who knows, maybe even an independence vote one day for Texas as well.
And, after that, hopefully:
- the Basque people would have their own country (they have a cool language).
- Ukraine would peacefully return Crimea and its eastern regions to Russia, thus depolarizing the country.
- Transnistria and Abkhazia would be recognized by the international community and become de jure independent.
- The North Korean regime collapses, and the two Koreas start a 30-year-long process of unification.
This would increase the number of flags for one to conquer! Who has a Basque flag?
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11-27-2013, 11:34 AM
Quote: (11-27-2013 10:53 AM)scotian Wrote:
I'm from possibly the most Scottish place outside of Scotland (Nova Scotia is Latin for New Scotland) and am 100% Scottish decent, I wouldn't mind having a second passport.
Then you'd qualify for EU free-to-roam rules too. One way ticket too EE!
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11-27-2013, 11:39 AM
I'm always surprised at how little use the forum makes of stats. Especially in cases like this when it's readily available and worth more than any armchair quarterbacking.
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11-27-2013, 11:44 AM
Quote: (11-27-2013 11:39 AM)Vicious Wrote:
I'm always surprised at how little use the forum makes of stats.
Statistics on what?
Economic data are of limited use and don't tell the whole story.
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11-27-2013, 12:02 PM
The UK will continue minor reforms. Its economy will eventually balance to a long period of low growth, low unemployment, and high debt similar to that of Japan. This could go on for decades.
Middle class brits will try to emigrate to places like America and Canada (with medium success due to stringent immigration policies of destinations), while immigration will slow down.
France - this country will haemorrhage its best and brightest without proper reform. The country is too large to continue its cradle to the grave welfare policies. Its best chances of salvation are that of a centre-right UMP party. Otherwise France will continue to look like 70s Britain.
Spain - This country will slowly get back on its feet. It will loose a portion of its young professionals to Latin America which could slow down economic growth in the future. It's going to be bolstered by cheap labour from the south once the economy stabilizes.
Portugal - Lost its best and brightest to Africa and Brazil already. Being bailed out by Germany and Angola. This is a nation that has lost way too many smart people to fully recover. Will become a sort of long term new Greece.
Germany - Titan.
Poland - This country is too dependent on its neighbours, low GDP growth, low unemployment, high debt for decades to come like the UK. Nothing significant will happen here. Already a first world country and not really much further to go.
Ukraine - This poor nation has been bullied by Russia. Ukrainians look west to Europe, but they're held back by an ever assertive Russia. More professionals will run west, which will slow economic progress.
Lithuania - Estonia - Latvia - They'll continue to outperform most of Europe on economic, education and health indicators. These countries will be the Switzerlands of the East.
Bulgaria - Corrupt, lost most of its best workforce to the west already.
Romania - Similar to Bulgaria. The Schengen will mean more best and bright leaving for the west.
Russia - Energy giant to supply China resources of decades ahead. The Russians will become richer, and better off than ever before in history. Demographically though this country is similar to the USA. On paper Russia's demographic time bomb has been halted, but upon closer inspection the majority of population growth is not ethnic Russian (or European for that matter). This may or may not have an impact in the future, depending of how the economy holds up.
Turkey - It will become a Titan. Germany of the East.
If I had to invest in a European fund in the next few years, I'd be looking to Turkey for moderate and stable growth.
Germany for stability and long term security.
Spain - Already bottomed out, and the country has huge potential.
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11-27-2013, 02:20 PM
Quote: (11-27-2013 12:27 PM)DjembaDjemba Wrote:
Quote: (11-27-2013 12:11 PM)Sharkie Wrote:
Quote: (11-27-2013 12:02 PM)DjembaDjemba Wrote:
Spain - Already bottomed out, and the country has huge potential.
Huge potential... in terms of?
What sort of revival do you see on the horizon?
Spain's economy grew too fast based on the abundance of cheap credit and the allure of cheap homes in a beautiful climate. It was really simple overcapacity. There was too much being built, for the demand. The prices of real estate was over-valued in respect to what the average European income could support. The over-valuation created false growth indicators. The construction boom was done on borrowed dime. There should never have been that much lending happening in Spain in the first place.
Spain has a massive population (50 million). It has a large and complex financial system, it has links to Latin America and Europe, educated workforce, cheap abundance of labour, beautiful weather (and beautiful women ), liberalized economy, and it's not corrupt like Italy. There is still demand for Spanish real estate from the North.
Spain's economy has stabilized and stopped rapidly shrinking. Investment in Spain is a decades long endeavour and I wouldn't expect to see returns on a Spanish based fund for quite some time. But I still expect a recovery.
I think the countries that have better perspectives of future in Europe are Spain(that will enrich a lot thanks to its colonies) and the batic countries.
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11-27-2013, 02:52 PM
The question is far too broad? What are we talking about? Straight growth? Employment? Investment climate? Safe financial system?