[Kingsley Davis]

(10-14-2013 07:00 PM)soup Wrote:  

(10-14-2013 05:33 PM)houston Wrote:  

Soup wont admit hes one yet..

Lives in a hipster neighborhood
Goes to hipster bars
Fucks hipster girls
Is a music and movie snob

First off I grew up in NYC, so the hipsters moved to me not visa versa.

Truth is, most of the girls I fuck aren't hipsters at all. They are usually girls from Manhattan or Europe who come to Brooklyn to fuck hipsters. I just happened to be caught in the Crossfire.

I like good music, I like good movies. Does that make me a snob? I can be critical of shitty movies and music.. but, I'm also musician by profession and studied and worked in film/theater for nine years, so my tastes might be a little more.. sharpened?

I'm a city boy, not a hipster.

Don'y sweat it Soup. I bomb around my trendy urban neighborhood drunk on artisanal crafted beers on my fixie bike (w/o brakes) while peacocking in one off haberdashery. Fuck the "Regular/Normal Joes" and the Suburbs.

   

   

[The Lizard of Oz]

The thing that characterizes hipsters more than anything else is the cult of irony and understatement.

Some of that is part of the passive aggressiveness that men express in an extended peacetime. A major war will blow that away, whenever it comes.

They're hell but I don't think they're particularly weak, actually. I sense that a lot of the males have a little bit of nasty backbone. These dudes are fanatically conformist like any "counterculture" but they're not necessarily insecure.

By the way, being successfully conformist within the main "counterculture" of the time, and not insecure, is a good recipe to get pussy, so seeing hipster guys with decent pussy does not surprise me.

[Screwston]

No but seriously why do they get so mad when you call them hipsters? They never admit what they are. Just look at Soups long rant.

[JimNortonFan]

@kenny_powers

Narcissists. They have to feel superior to those who:

Are actually smart
Make more money
Fit into the mainstream

They denigrate all those who came before them by adopting their fashions in an ironic way.

The irony covers up insecurity.

They drive up used clothing prices for people who really need it.

[Ziltoid]

(10-14-2013 09:58 PM)houston Wrote:  

No but seriously why do they get so mad when you call them hipsters? They never admit what they are. Just look at Soups long rant.

Because an integral part of the scene is to pretend there is no scene, or at least that they aren't a part of it; its those other people who are the hipsters...

[Therapsid]

One of the things that's characteristic of hipsters is the fact that a lot of the time, they're not dressing a certain way or maintaining their hair styles and facial hair to look good. They're doing it to be ironic.

Yet if you point that out, they'll frown at you and act sniffy.

If you're going to look like a fucking clown, then act like one. Don't be a stuck up, cheap beer gargling sack of shit.

It's almost redundant using the word ironic though, it's so deeply bled into the culture today that hipsters probably barely even recognize that anyone could possibly live an authentic, non-ironic existence.

[el mechanico]

(10-14-2013 09:58 PM)houston Wrote:  

No but seriously why do they get so mad when you call them hipsters? They never admit what they are. Just look at Soups long rant.

They never admit it. Like Larry the cable guy talks about rednecks and his audience laughs but it's not them it's the people they know..

Rednecks are more real than hipsters though because they have real fun not fake pretenious fun.

Maybe another culture steal is in order so the hipsters can have fake redneck fun?

Either way I fucking hate them and will make every single one of their lives miserable when they have to deal with me.

[JimNortonFan]

I'd like to take this time to point out that snarky biographies are Hipster bullshit.

Unfortunately, some of the ROK biographies have this:

So and so writes a column for ROK. He (insert snark here).

No.

So and so is a man writing for a man's publication and while he can't reveal his true identity he's proud of who he is and what he does. He's hoping to become more but that's part of being ok with who he is. Details of interest but the main point is the first 2 sentences.

Snarky biographies:

1. Cover up massive insecurity with humor (weak humor). Look at comics. They are the most insecure people in the world.

2. They denigrate real biographies achieved by real people. No snark in a Steve Jobs or Richard Branson biography. They don't need it.

[soup]

(10-14-2013 09:58 PM)houston Wrote:  

No but seriously why do they get so mad when you call them hipsters? They never admit what they are. Just look at Soups long rant.

Houston, if I'm a hipster, then you are a faggot.

Now don't go writing a rant

[Tex Pro]

This thread just got interesting.

[soup]

(10-14-2013 04:26 PM)OGNorCal707 Wrote:  

I know I'm going to sound like a straight hater, and I guess I am, but I don't get it when hot hipster chicks are into these ugly, scawny, unkept, feminized dweebs! I saw two very mismatched couples while out having breakfast today, that had me scratching my head, the guys weren't scrawny or particularly feminine, they were hipsters, but maybe a different breed, any how both guys were extremely tattooed to the point of looking freakish in my book, face tats, neck tats, sleeves, tats on their hands, etc.

For some reason both guys (two separate couples) were with hot hipster style chicks, but from what I saw neither of the girls had tattoos themselves and if they did they had to have been small ones. Objectively speaking the guys were unattractive, one was a fat ass that was way over weight, but the girls were both solid 8's.

Now I know you'll say, "so what, good for them, stop hating", but I can't help it. I'm not on a dry spell or anything, but I feel like I work my ass off to improve myself, work out, eat right, learn martial arts, travel, buy nice clothes/develop good style, but some how I can't seem to score anything higher than a 7 in this town. Meanwhile there are shit tons of hipsters, with hot ass girls, and the hipster guy is usually a 140 pound weakling, with a handle bar mustache, high-water skinny jeans, a bow tie, and some other gay shit. Or he's a fat ass, with a beenie, but he's cover head to to in ugly ass tattoos. Yet somehow these guys are pulling some of the hottest girls in town, I don't know, but sometimes it feels like I'm living in a bizarro world. I bet Soup would say these guys are alpha and have exceptional game, so maybe I should befriend them and take notes.

Hipster for sure are fucking clickish motherfuckers, that's have of why I think these guys are pulling these chicks. They stick with their own kind, and have super tight social circles, and all have a "holier than thou" or "more hipster than thou" attitude. It's fucking ironic because their whole shtick is about being a non-conformist and not giving a fuck about what anyone thinks, but in reality they are highly conformist and judgmental, and look down upon other groups of people whether it be jocks, preps, etc., etc. They think they are cooler than just about every other group, and act snooty, and stuck up as fuck, meanwhile all under the guise of being an non-elitist.

Most of them are trust fund fuckers, who live in expensive cities like NYC or SF, work shitty jobs, but somehow can afford to live in a $2500 a month apartment. A lot of them are more or less broke and while the minimalist lifestyle is cool and all, it's not cool when you're 38 years old and still have 3 roommates and are living pay check to pay check as a barista. But, like I said a lot of these types come from wealthier families and can afford to dick around for most of adulthood.

Last but not least, fuck PBR, I get it if you're on a tight budget, but it's fucking lame how hipsters worship that beer and drinking it is like one of the core tenants of their life philosophy. PBR sucks relative to good beer, and most of these types can afford to drink Stella Artois or something half decent, but yet you only seeing them drink PBR, it's part of their groupthink conformist mentality. Maybe it was Portlandia or some other show I saw, where they spoof hipsters, they're in Portland or somewhere in a hipster bar, and a hipster orders a drink other than PBR, and the whole bar stops and goes silent and stares at him, then the bartender makes a face, and hands him a PBR.

There is one movie made by Tim and Eric, was never really familiar with them, but it's about a hipster douchebag and his friends living in Williamsburg, it's called "The Comedy" and I actually thought it was pretty funny. The whole movie is just a collection of scenes of this guy, and it's really slow, but a dry and off beat form of comedy, the guy just acts like a total hipster douche and is a condescending asshole to people, but it's pretty funny.

Whatever it is those guys are doing works for them. Maybe it's an aloof attitude that they are giving off, maybe they signaling status to those girls in some way.

Clearly there is game at work. If anything, it could be a good idea to figure out what they are doing.

El Mechanico posted about his hipster friends who score a lot.

I know party people who dress like rockstars who get a lot of ass. I don't know if these people really fit into the starbucks/fixed bike crowd that everyone on this board is describing as hipster.

It sounds like the hipsters being described in this thread are just boring kids looking for attention.

When I was growing up, we had punks, goths, metal-heads, homies, ravers, and hippies. There were also people who liked indie-rock.

We didn't really have jocks at my highschool.

Then there were sub-groups that were mixtures of all the above groups.

Then, in the early 2000s, we got a lot of white people moving in to city from places like Ohio. Then five-eight years later, I started hearing people use the term hipster to describe people that looked to me like the modern day equivalent of the indie-rock crowd from the 1990s.

They clearly didn't come from the goths, metal-heads, ravers, or homies.

They were more in-line with the punk-rock and indie rock suburban ennui vibe. Less punk-rock though. The girls were kind of hippysh art school types I guess.

Now these guys get called hipsters.

I think guys on here look at me and say I'm a hipster because they don't have people like me where they are. I'm an NYC kid (not anymore I'm 33) who did art stuff instead of sports. I don't listen to hipster music. I grew up listening to Van Halen, avant garde stuff, and NIN. I hate indie rock.

I don't mind the influx of new people into the city because when I was growing up here, it was a lot more cut-throat and you couldn't walk around late at night in some areas unless you wanted to get jumped.

I got tired of a lot native NYgirls, and like to have some new-blood pussy from middle America coming to my door step.

They come to NYC to meet me. I am part of the dream of NYC to a lot of these girls.

I do them NYC style; welldone like a steak from Peter Luger.

I give the foreign girls a free tour of my NY dick. One of them even told me that I helped her complete her bucket list for her NYC trip because she wanted to make out with a NYer.

And to those guys who hate on these supposed "hipster" guys, and especially the ones that are tagging mad pussy, you should ask yourself: why. Maybe you are jealous.

I say that game is bigger than your personal beliefs. Whatever works is what matters, more than any one ideology.

That's why I think game is also more powerful than what the whole red-pill thing is becoming. It can encompass red-pill/manosphere, and will take what it needs, but it sometimes seems like the manosphere stuff might be limited by a streak of conservatism.

Game isn't political. It won't be limited by beliefs. It's about something that all hetero men have in common no matter what if they are hipster, a workout/RVFlifestyler/, a homie, a plumber.. it doesn't matter:

Pussy.

Pussy is pussy. That's the bottom line.

Instead of worrying about whether someone is a hipster or not- if they are getting women, it doesn't matter. The proof is in the pudding.

P.S. out of all the cheap beers, PBR is by far the best one (even though it is a little sweet). Budweiser is bland, highlife tastes like what I imagine urine to taste like, rolling rock tastes like water, Old E is fucked up, Gennesse is too sweet. The next step up from PBR would be Yuengling, and for IPA, Lagunitas is good.

[Kieran]

Good post soup, I grew up in London and other big cities and so my experience is pretty similar to yours, and I agree with everything that you said. Myself, I was never really part of one sub culture, but had an interest in many, and the rave scene and the drugs brought us all together anyway.

Another thing is that the snarky, passive aggressive, know it all, personalities that a lot of these so called hipsters have, are not limited to them and are pretty much the norm for young men and women today. It might be more of a generational thing than a hipster thing.

And regarding some of them getting women, it's easy to see why. Some are passionate about their lifestyle choices, living a life without constraints, and aren't afraid to stand out from the crowd. Pretty much a recipe for getting pussy.

The guy talking about working out and martial arts makes a lot of reasonable points, but ultimately doesn't sound all that different to the nice guys that think they deserve pussy because they are nice and hold down a steady job. Hypergamy doesn't care.

[hipster]

Will never die. They have always been around just were not called hipsters. In the 90s they would be called 'indie' in most parts of the world , don't know how they were called in the 80s , 70s or how will be in the 2020s but they will survive.

[kosko]

(10-15-2013 02:52 AM)soup Wrote:  

(10-14-2013 04:26 PM)OGNorCal707 Wrote:  

I know I'm going to sound like a straight hater, and I guess I am, but I don't get it when hot hipster chicks are into these ugly, scawny, unkept, feminized dweebs! I saw two very mismatched couples while out having breakfast today, that had me scratching my head, the guys weren't scrawny or particularly feminine, they were hipsters, but maybe a different breed, any how both guys were extremely tattooed to the point of looking freakish in my book, face tats, neck tats, sleeves, tats on their hands, etc.

For some reason both guys (two separate couples) were with hot hipster style chicks, but from what I saw neither of the girls had tattoos themselves and if they did they had to have been small ones. Objectively speaking the guys were unattractive, one was a fat ass that was way over weight, but the girls were both solid 8's.

Now I know you'll say, "so what, good for them, stop hating", but I can't help it. I'm not on a dry spell or anything, but I feel like I work my ass off to improve myself, work out, eat right, learn martial arts, travel, buy nice clothes/develop good style, but some how I can't seem to score anything higher than a 7 in this town. Meanwhile there are shit tons of hipsters, with hot ass girls, and the hipster guy is usually a 140 pound weakling, with a handle bar mustache, high-water skinny jeans, a bow tie, and some other gay shit. Or he's a fat ass, with a beenie, but he's cover head to to in ugly ass tattoos. Yet somehow these guys are pulling some of the hottest girls in town, I don't know, but sometimes it feels like I'm living in a bizarro world. I bet Soup would say these guys are alpha and have exceptional game, so maybe I should befriend them and take notes.

Hipster for sure are fucking clickish motherfuckers, that's have of why I think these guys are pulling these chicks. They stick with their own kind, and have super tight social circles, and all have a "holier than thou" or "more hipster than thou" attitude. It's fucking ironic because their whole shtick is about being a non-conformist and not giving a fuck about what anyone thinks, but in reality they are highly conformist and judgmental, and look down upon other groups of people whether it be jocks, preps, etc., etc. They think they are cooler than just about every other group, and act snooty, and stuck up as fuck, meanwhile all under the guise of being an non-elitist.

Most of them are trust fund fuckers, who live in expensive cities like NYC or SF, work shitty jobs, but somehow can afford to live in a $2500 a month apartment. A lot of them are more or less broke and while the minimalist lifestyle is cool and all, it's not cool when you're 38 years old and still have 3 roommates and are living pay check to pay check as a barista. But, like I said a lot of these types come from wealthier families and can afford to dick around for most of adulthood.

Last but not least, fuck PBR, I get it if you're on a tight budget, but it's fucking lame how hipsters worship that beer and drinking it is like one of the core tenants of their life philosophy. PBR sucks relative to good beer, and most of these types can afford to drink Stella Artois or something half decent, but yet you only seeing them drink PBR, it's part of their groupthink conformist mentality. Maybe it was Portlandia or some other show I saw, where they spoof hipsters, they're in Portland or somewhere in a hipster bar, and a hipster orders a drink other than PBR, and the whole bar stops and goes silent and stares at him, then the bartender makes a face, and hands him a PBR.

There is one movie made by Tim and Eric, was never really familiar with them, but it's about a hipster douchebag and his friends living in Williamsburg, it's called "The Comedy" and I actually thought it was pretty funny. The whole movie is just a collection of scenes of this guy, and it's really slow, but a dry and off beat form of comedy, the guy just acts like a total hipster douche and is a condescending asshole to people, but it's pretty funny.

Whatever it is those guys are doing works for them. Maybe it's an aloof attitude that they are giving off, maybe they signaling status to those girls in some way.

Clearly there is game at work. If anything, it could be a good idea to figure out what they are doing.

El Mechanico posted about his hipster friends who score a lot.

I know party people who dress like rockstars who get a lot of ass. I don't know if these people really fit into the starbucks/fixed bike crowd that everyone on this board is describing as hipster.

It sounds like the hipsters being described in this thread are just boring kids looking for attention.

When I was growing up, we had punks, goths, metal-heads, homies, ravers, and hippies. There were also people who liked indie-rock.

We didn't really have jocks at my highschool.

Then there were sub-groups that were mixtures of all the above groups.

Then, in the early 2000s, we got a lot of white people moving in to city from places like Ohio. Then five-eight years later, I started hearing people use the term hipster to describe people that looked to me like the modern day equivalent of the indie-rock crowd from the 1990s.

They clearly didn't come from the goths, metal-heads, ravers, or homies.

They were more in-line with the punk-rock and indie rock suburban ennui vibe. Less punk-rock though. The girls were kind of hippysh art school types I guess.

Now these guys get called hipsters.

I think guys on here look at me and say I'm a hipster because they don't have people like me where they are. I'm an NYC kid (not anymore I'm 33) who did art stuff instead of sports. I don't listen to hipster music. I grew up listening to Van Halen, avant garde stuff, and NIN. I hate indie rock.

I don't mind the influx of new people into the city because when I was growing up here, it was a lot more cut-throat and you couldn't walk around late at night in some areas unless you wanted to get jumped.

I got tired of a lot native NYgirls, and like to have some new-blood pussy from middle America coming to my door step.

They come to NYC to meet me. I am part of the dream of NYC to a lot of these girls.

I do them NYC style; welldone like a steak from Peter Luger.

I give the foreign girls a free tour of my NY dick. One of them even told me that I helped her complete her bucket list for her NYC trip because she wanted to make out with a NYer.

And to those guys who hate on these supposed "hipster" guys, and especially the ones that are tagging mad pussy, you should ask yourself: why. Maybe you are jealous.

I say that game is bigger than your personal beliefs. Whatever works is what matters, more than any one ideology.

That's why I think game is also more powerful than what the whole red-pill thing is becoming. It can encompass red-pill/manosphere, and will take what it needs, but it sometimes seems like the manosphere stuff might be limited by a streak of conservatism.

Game isn't political. It won't be limited by beliefs. It's about something that all hetero men have in common no matter what if they are hipster, a workout/RVFlifestyler/, a homie, a plumber.. it doesn't matter:

Pussy.

Pussy is pussy. That's the bottom line.

Instead of worrying about whether someone is a hipster or not- if they are getting women, it doesn't matter. The proof is in the pudding.

P.S. out of all the cheap beers, PBR is by far the best one (even though it is a little sweet). Budweiser is bland, highlife tastes like what I imagine urine to taste like, rolling rock tastes like water, Old E is fucked up, Gennesse is too sweet. The next step up from PBR would be Yuengling, and for IPA, Lagunitas is good.

You can't say with a strait face PBR is good. It tastes like mob water, shit is really nasty. PBR, Molson Stock, Ale, Bud are all shit. Old E and highlife are what they are and serve that job with a specific flavour.

[soup]

I said that out of the cheap beers it's the best one. I remember when I started seeing it around in NYC. It was cheap so we tried it and it was much better than Ballantine and not as toxic as steel reserve.

I used to drink old e almost exclusively but there came a time when I had to stop because I think I was getting too fucked up on those cheap 40oz bottles. Ii believe they put some extra shit in there like caffeine or something.

Yuengling, despite being too malty tasting at times, is the next level up price wise. Then you start getting into the seemingly countless new brands of beers that have sprung up in the last ten years, and there are almost too many options. I'm spoiled and almost never have to buy drinks because I'm getting hooked up a lot, so when I do buy beers at a bar, I tend to go for cheap stuff.

[Sonsowey]

It seems like people get called a hipster for doing basically anything.

Care about your health? You're a fucking hipster. Eat a cheeseburger, forget your fucking kale, hipster.

Ride a bike? Fucking hipster, buy a car and pay for insurance/gas/oil/tires/ etc.

Wear clothes that don't make you look like you're still living in the 90s? Fucking hipster, wear baggy jeans and a sports T shirt.

Have a haircut that isn't a brotastic buzz-cut? Fucking hipster, where do you get off cutting your hair that way instead of this way?

Listen to modern music that isn't Rap or Pop? Basically that makes you a hipster. Especially if you dare listen to music from other countries. Hell even a white guy listening to hip hop is probably getting called a hipster. M.F. doom, total hipster-hop.

Hipster hate is just a reincarnation of "Kids these days"...

[soup]

(10-15-2013 10:30 AM)Sonsowey Wrote:  

It seems like people get called a hipster for doing basically anything.

Care about your health? You're a fucking hipster. Eat a cheeseburger, forget your fucking kale, hipster.

Ride a bike? Fucking hipster, buy a car and pay for insurance/gas/oil/tires/ etc.

Wear clothes that don't make you look like you're still living in the 90s? Fucking hipster, wear baggy jeans and a sports T shirt.

Have a haircut that isn't a brotastic buzz-cut? Fucking hipster, where do you get off cutting your hair that way instead of this way?

Listen to modern music that isn't Rap or Pop? Basically that makes you a hipster. Especially if you dare listen to music from other countries. Hell even a white guy listening to hip hop is probably getting called a hipster. M.F. doom, total hipster-hop.

Hipster hate is just a reincarnation of "Kids these days"...

It's a derogatory term around these parts for sure. There probably are real "hipsters" living around north brooklyn who don't need to be there, but I think that word is getting played much in the same way that "poser" was thrown around in the 1990s.

No to hate on self improvement and working out etc., but those guys don't need to get buff if they are already getting pussy.

I see more a difference between hipsters and "sex-crazed" players like myself ha.

And you guys who like to throw around names forgot to mention "blipsters" or "black hipsters"..

I know a lot of "wolf-in-sheeps-clothing" brothas who are cleaning up around north brooklyn because they've co-opted the hipster aesthetic. Actually these guys represent the majority of my player friends who go out to get new pussy. A lot of the white guys don't have that drive yet and want to mix gaming with hanging.

The black guys tend to have the pussy focus.

Soup and friends (take note that Kid would DEF be considered a hipster if he time travelled to 2013):

[The Beast1]

Guys, most hipster game is $$$$ game.

These kids have trust funds larger than the GDP of most third world countries. These guys pulling topshelf hipster ladies have money to blow.

1. They live in pretty logistically awesome places (check).
2. Have money (Check check check check)
3. Faux intellentsia attitudes (check)
4. Groups are vetted and socially preened (social approval - check)
5. Trust fund babies involved in a "life changing endeavor" (check)

That is game right there. You can substitute all of our game advice and swap out the hipster stuff with mainstream stuff and you have us.

The thing with most hipster guys and you guys have to remember this, a lot of these guys don't pull often. Where they have in quality (this is important) we have in quantity.

I have a best friend who is classicaly blue pill and beta. The thing is, his previous exes and girlfriends are all solid 8s and 9s. However, he's only been with 8 women his entire life.

The majority of these guys have horribly long dry spells before they find these trophy pieces. The ones that go through hipster ladies like water are quintessential alphas.

Hipsters are a product of affluence. Take away the affluence and the problem goes away.

[Kieran]

^^ It must be different in the US, but that's not at all the case in the UK (with a few exceptions of course).

[Deluge]

Most hipsters I know don't have family wealth, many work as baristas or waitresses etc. They mostly come from middle to upper middle class families though. Hipsters in their 20's can't actually afford to live in some of the hipster neighborhoods they shop and go out in anymore, they've been priced out by the yuppies.

[Tex Pro]

(10-15-2013 11:37 AM)Kieran Wrote:  

^^ It must be different in the US, but that's not at all the case in the UK (with a few exceptions of course).

It is not different in the US, it is just that some people on here are talking only about hipsters in NYC or SF, while ignoring the fact that lots of hipsters also live in other, lower-cost cities.

[Sonsowey]

Narcissism and Sarcasm are NOT uniquely hipster traits.

I don't know about other parts of the country, but in NYC EVERYONE is a narcissist and sarcastic.

The definition of narcissism is the "normal" facebook whoring girl posting pics of herself at the beach or out in miniskirts. Or the dude who works out like crazy and has shirtless selfies online. Probably not a hipster, definitely a narcissist.

[tiggaling]

I know in Berlin, there was known to be signs on Art Gallery saying "Sorry, no entry for hipsters from the US".

http://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-upd...6476268583

I have met quite a few self hating hipsters, who dislike the cynical, urbane, self satisfied, petty pretention of it all.

Even though I do not resonate with hipster culture in general, I often find myself associating with people who display the marks of that culture. That being said, it is hard to escape if you are interested in stuff like art and interesting music - as this hipsterism is often just the background culture at hand in day and age. So I do not really take it too seriously.

Sub-cultures are a double edged sword, there are some great people with identify with them, but then again, it is never the masses who just adopt the uniform and conformist "style" I find myself associating with anyway, but individuals who are actually sincere human beings and not nihlistic cardboard cut outs representing the dead of western civilisation.

https://www.adbusters.org/magazine/79/hipster.html

[Sombro]

(10-15-2013 08:14 AM)hipster Wrote:  

Will never die. They have always been around just were not called hipsters. In the 90s they would be called 'indie' in most parts of the world , don't know how they were called in the 80s , 70s or how will be in the 2020s but they will survive.

In the 80's and 90's we called them trendies or art fags. (A subset of 'indie')

At the risk of sounding "meta," they weren't artists or musicians per se, but would hang around artists and musicians hoping the trappings of coolness would rub off on them.
Instead of learning a craft or trade, they just imitate the outer trappings like appearance/fashion, popular tastes and notions, hangouts, etc.
Lazy gestures over real accomplishment. Cargo cult thinking, in other words.

A more accurate definition would be...

Dilettante
-- a person who cultivates an area of interest, such as the arts, without real commitment or knowledge.

[Screwston]

Seen a band playing with 3 fedoras, 2 members that didnt have shoes or socks and a cello player. A female member was wearing an old timey, puffy dress. to bad their instruments didnt catch on fire...

another thing i see with hipsters is having bandanas hang out of their back pocket. im sure they stole that from blue collar workers or gang members to look cool or wjatever the fuck theyre trying to do.